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1 Day to the Draft: Penn State DE/DT, Jared Odrick

With the Draft fast approaching, it's time to start looking at some potential players for the Patriots. I'm going to put profiles of 2 players a day- one offense, one defensive- and gain a better understanding of the players in the draft.

Penn State's Jared Odrick is a prospect known to all Patriots fan who have followed the draft. While players like Jermaine Gresham, Brandon Graham and Sergio Kindle were early front runners for our #22 overall pick, as the draft has inched closer, one name has emerged. Odrick. There's a general understanding that the Patriots need to upgrade their defensive front 7 in order to increase pressure on opposing quarterbacks and to allow our cornerbacks to make more plays on forced passes. Odrick has a Richard Seymour type body and has shown the ability to get into the backfield at the college level. While Odrick has played the DT position in a 4-3 defense, he has the bulk and skill to become a 3-4 DE. Odrick has room to grow and potential to become the rock of our defense for the next decade. Is he our #22 overall selection?

His measurements and some quotes after the jump.

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Walterfootball.com Scouting

Height: 6-5. Weight: 304.
Projected 40 Time: 5.09.
Combine 40 Time: 4.98.
Benchx225: 26

Player Comparison: Tony Brown. Brown is a one-gap penetrator in Tennessee; he is very quick, has great hands, but struggles when teams run at him.

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CBSSports.com Scouting

03/12/2010 - TOP RATED NFL DRAFT SCOUT DEFENSIVE TACKLES: Jared Odrick: Penn State, 6-5, 301, 1-2: Odrick is a tenacious team leader who was named 2009 Big Ten defensive player and defensive lineman of the year. His strength is strength itself, which could serve him as a tackle in a four-man line or even at nose tackle in a 3-4. Over the past two seasons Odrick has steadily improved to the point that NFL teams believe he has the potential to be an outstanding pro. He has the quickness that demands immediate attention from blockers, and he can follow up with a persistent bull rush. He is not agile but used his big, strong hands to control college blockers and might need to learn more tricks to remain consistently successful in the NFL. - Frank Cooney, The Sports Xchange, NFLDraftScout.com/CBS Sports/USA TODAY

NFL.com Scouting

Odrick has a good combination of size and strength. He is more of a run-stopper with power to hold the point but needs to utilize his hands more consistently to separate to the ball. Odrick shows power to collapse the pocket as a pass rusher but again needs to expand his pass rush package with more moves and counters to contribute at the next level. He feels pad pressure well and constricts running lanes effectively. He has some limitations (lateral agility and speed) but plays with a good motor and often wins with effort. Odrick could be considered a versatile prospect as an end in a 3-4 front or tackle in 4-3 schemes. Odrick has upside if he can improve his overall technique at the next level.

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Verdict: No. What? Yeah. Not Odrick. While Odrick has the body type to excel in the 3-4 defense, he'd just be another project to take on. While we love projects, I don't think that Odrick would see much of the field with Mike Wright and Myron Pryor vying for playing time. Odrick has the potential to make some team extremely happy with his versatility- I'd be very happy if he was our pick- but I don't think the Patriots are interested. Looking at a list of the players the Patriots have had visits with, the lack of a private workout or visit with Odrick is very glaring. I say that the Patriots go OLB in the first round, if they don't trade their pick. While Odrick is a great looking pick, I don't think the Patriots think his value is high enough to warrant a first round pick. I have no real knocks against Odrick as our first round pick- I just don't think he is going to be it.

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You, sir, will expect a large crowd carrying pitchforks, torches, and a catapault outside your house for this blasphemy.

Such as this one:

And this one, too:

And perhaps this:

My dream first two rounds for the Patriots:

1) Jared Odrick
2a) Rodger Saffold
2b) Eric Norwood
2c) Montario Hardesty

by R_Adragna on Apr 21, 2010 2:38 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

I know!

But I don’t think the Patriots would draft someone they hadn’t given a private workout or at least brought in for a visit.

by Richard Hill on Apr 21, 2010 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not talking about bringing them in for a visit...

…but running them through a private workout at their pro day.

Also, when a player has character questions (like Odrick), I would expect a team to want a closer look.

by Richard Hill on Apr 21, 2010 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

ohhhhhhhh...

I misunderstood. I couldn’t find any info about whether the Patriots worked him out at his pro day or not, but I did find this terrific article about Mankins, from the Boston Globe, May 22, 2005. Well worth a read.

Keep the faith!

by Marima on Apr 21, 2010 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah...

…We haven’t run Odrick through a private workout, which seems pretty important when dealing with a potential first round draft pick. We attended his pro day (but he shares that with many other players) and we contacted his coaches (but that also could be about other players). The fact that we haven’t run him through our own steps worries me a little.

by Richard Hill on Apr 21, 2010 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

If they already knew they were going to take him

the workout wouldn’t be necessary. In fact, it would be better not to work him out, as others have highlighted.

However, nothing suggests that this is the case. If he played for a Belichick confidante (like Saban, Groh, etc.), I might suspect something, but as far as I know, Paterno and Belichick have no such relationship. Without that sort of inside info, I don’t think the Pats would go out on a limb and take him.

by nbradley07 on Apr 21, 2010 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

My thought...

…is that it’s not like the Patriots to draft a player of questionable character and skill (he’s transitioning from 4-3 DT to 3-4 DE) without knowing if he’s fully capable.

But I agree- I don’t think there’s a definite connection between Penn State and the Patriots that would let the FO rate him without a personal workout.

by Richard Hill on Apr 21, 2010 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Character Questions?

Can I get some clarification on that? I haven’t heard a drop about Character problems. He was never in trouble at PSU, unlike some of the others (Navarro Bowman, Andrew Quarless).

by cmdpsu15 on Apr 22, 2010 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

i know...i was wonderinf what he did in college

@least he didn’t try to poke a guy’s eye out

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by NinjaZX6R on Apr 22, 2010 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Logan Mankins!

Not only that, but from a Charles Robinson article:

Said one AFC personnel man: "When the [Indianapolis Colts] really like a player, they don’t say anything. I bet if you looked, a lot of times they don’t even bring him in. That’s more standard than going out there with [the 11th overall] pick a couple days before the draft and saying how much you like a player and how you spent a lot of time with him

Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.

by Comedic.Sans on Apr 21, 2010 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol

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I love my ZX-6r Kawasaki.....159 mph is my top speed..will top that this spring
I bleed Scarlet and Grey...A Buckeye for Life
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by NinjaZX6R on Apr 22, 2010 2:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

I didn't realize they didn't bring him in

But as I just saw Marima post, I’’m not sure of their track record in bringing in 1st picks prior to the draft

by JonnyNYC on Apr 21, 2010 4:36 PM EDT reply actions  

The last time they had a major gap (Andruzzi leaving)

and filled it via the draft (Mankins), they didn’t bring Mankins in, and they took the guy with a first-rounder even though he was likely to slip down. So not only did they take him without looking at him, they took him without doing the usual Patriots ‘value’ down-the-draft-board shuffle.

Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.

by Comedic.Sans on Apr 21, 2010 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree

I think OLB is a greater need and i was reading somewhere that the only times Odrick shifted to play in a 3-4 he struggled. He prolly will get better with time but like the original poster said we already have enough projects. So unless we switch to a 4-3 for some reason then I think Graham, Kindle or Hughes would be a better fit and would contribute immediately

60% of the time, it works everytime...

by Rehabs4Quitters on Apr 21, 2010 5:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Also

I dont think we would have to worry about the Jets taking him if he slips past the Pats. Ravens pick before the Jets and they will prolly take him.

60% of the time, it works everytime...

by Rehabs4Quitters on Apr 21, 2010 5:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Either way, he ends up in a Conference rival and likely playoff competitor

I’m not sure I like that, either way. If the Ravens really like the kid for their 3-4, I’d lean towards taking him even more – the Ravens know how to draft 3-4 DEs (Haloti Ngata, anyone?)

Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.

by Comedic.Sans on Apr 21, 2010 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dude -

Anybody we don’t take could end up with a Conference Rival. If we don’t take Graham, Kindle, Hughes or Bryant, they could end up in New York, Baltimore or even Miami.

by CelticPride on Apr 22, 2010 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

I don’t think we should draft as a defense to steal from opposing teams, even if they fit a need- if we have the opportunity to take a better player, we should go for it.

by Richard Hill on Apr 22, 2010 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

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