New England Patriots Guard Logan Mankins is Still in Limbo.
And not the fun, party kind of limbo. Guard Logan Mankins is sitting without a long term contract. Regarded as one of the best left guards in football, and possibly the best left guard in the AFC, there are many reasons as to why Mankins should resigned with a long term deal. He's only 28 years old, which means that the New England Patriots would do well to sign him to a 4 or 5 year deal. The real question is "how much?"
Let's look at what Mankins brings to the table.
1) He's been in the league for a possible 80 games. He's started 80 of those games, which means that he has been a durable starter for 5 years. Looking at our offensive line, as of late, injury has been one of the greatest X factors in terms of team production. Usually, it can be expected that 3 of our O-Line starters will go down at some point in the season; most likely Stephen Neal and Matt Light are two of them. The fact that Mankins, who plays a valuable offensive line position, hasn't missed a single game? That's impressive.
2) He's a beast. He's one of the best guards in the game and has been selected twice to the Pro Bowl and once as an NFL All-Pro.
3) He's an integral part of our offense, that needs to stick together for continuity's sake. The Patriots have suffered from high turnover and have shown a commitment this off-season of awarding deserving players (Leigh Bodden, Vince Wilfork) and getting rid of the bad eggs (Adalius Thomas). Mankins has done everything right.
4) He's basically irreplaceable. I know that there is no "untouchable" Patriot, except for Gisele, but who on the roster, or on the streets, would be able to step into Mankins role on offense and have a Pro Bowl caliber season? I don't see anyone.
More discussion after the jump!
The only real reason I can see the Patriots not having signed Mankins to a long term deal is because there are other contracts to look after. After spending so much money on free agents (other than Mankins), running through the draft and looking after new players, the Patriots clearly need to re-assess their position in terms of a team enforced salary cap, as well as future contracts (Mr. Tom Brady).
Now Patriots owner Robert Kraft has said himself that he hopes to see Mankins with a long term offer sometime soon:
"Our people are working on that," Kraft said with respect to a new deal. "I really hope Logan will be with us for the long-term. That is our objective."
The question is just when- and for how much.
Over at the Boston Globe, they compiled a list of recent top guard contracts in the past couple of years to gauge where Mankins should fall. I believe he should be towards the top.
Jahri Evans, Saints (2010): 7 years, $56.7 million, $19 million guaranteed
Alan Faneca, Jets (2008): 4 years, $32 million, $23 million guaranteed
Eric Steinbach, Browns (2008): 7 years, $49.5 million, $17 million guaranteed
Leonard Davis, Cowboys (2007): 7 years, $49.6 million, $18.75 million guaranteed
Kris Dielman, Chargers (2007): 6 years, $39 million, $17 million guaranteed
Derrick Dockery, Bills (2007): 7 years, $49 million, $18.5 million guaranteed
Steve Hutchinson, Vikings (2006): 7 years, $49 million, $16 million guaranteed
Now I don't think the Patriots should pay players according to other franchises, but I do think they should pay their players fairly- and I believe that the players on the list have relatively fair deals.
Currently, Mankins has been tendered for a one year, $3.268 million contract, which is both well under his market value and well under his time frame goal. If he doesn't sign the tender by June 15th, the tender will drop to $1.54 million- even further away from the goal.
I think that Mankins contract will be put off until after the Patriots begin to cut players from the roster. The Patriots still need to sign all of the rookies to contracts and I believe that they are the #1 priority, as of now. Once the roster is trimmed and the rookies are under salary control, I think that Mankins will get his 5 year, $38 million contract to keep him as a Patriot for years to come.
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I know that there is no “untouchable” Patriot, except for Gisele, but who on the roster, or on the streets, would be able to step into Mankins role on offense and have a Pro Bowl caliber season?
Gisele is on the streets? Does Tommy know? Oh, Gisele, you don’t have to put on the red light….
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by SlotMachinePlayer on May 17, 2010 5:04 PM EDT reply actions
Au contraire
She’s avoiding the Elin Nordegren trap of being the dutiful stay-at-home wife/model by trolling through where Tommy might be looking for dalliances. Smart lady.
Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.
by Comedic.Sans on May 17, 2010 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions
This is what I don't like:
If it was just a time frame thing, I’d be good, but it sounds like a ball park thing.
"There has been discussions," agent Frank Bauer told the Boston Herald. "We’re pretty far apart. Let’s leave it at that." Bauer declined to say whether Mankins will begin attending voluntary activities or a mandatory minicamp in June. "No, I have no comment on that," Bauer answered.
They’re not in the same ballpark.
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by SlotMachinePlayer on May 17, 2010 5:10 PM EDT reply actions
I'm expecting that the Patriots want to...
…give a Bodden type deal to Mankins. Bodden took less than Dunta Robinson got in Atlanta and I think the Patriots are trying to offer Mankins the Bodden contract to Jahri Evans’ Robinson contract, if you can understand what I’m trying to say.
by Richard Hill on May 17, 2010 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions
i think its better to offer a contract entension than a new deal...saves a lot of money for the Pats and makes Logan happy
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I know what you are saying and "We're pretty far apart." is pretty ambiguous....
but it looks like there is some common ground they’re going to have to cover before this happens.
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by SlotMachinePlayer on May 17, 2010 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions
They'll get it done.
And if they don’t, I will personally drive him to the football offices in Davie and introduce him to Bill Parcells.
"To borrow a simile from the football field, we believe that men must play fair, but that there must be no shirking, and that the success can only come to the player who hits the line hard." — Theodore Roosevelt
by Chad Henne is Your New Bicycle on May 17, 2010 5:28 PM EDT reply actions
Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
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by SlotMachinePlayer on May 17, 2010 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions
It wasn't enough to punish the Pats for passing on Odrick? AND Misi?
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on May 17, 2010 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I know, right?
The AFC east teams are growing just too similar. Throw in the Bills switching to a 3-4 and we’ll all be fighting over the same players soon.
"To borrow a simile from the football field, we believe that men must play fair, but that there must be no shirking, and that the success can only come to the player who hits the line hard." — Theodore Roosevelt
by Chad Henne is Your New Bicycle on May 17, 2010 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Meanwhile, in South Florida...
Me: Mr. Parcells, this Logan Mankins, and I think we shou—
BP: I want him. Give him to me.
"To borrow a simile from the football field, we believe that men must play fair, but that there must be no shirking, and that the success can only come to the player who hits the line hard." — Theodore Roosevelt
by Chad Henne is Your New Bicycle on May 17, 2010 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions
The only Logan Mankins they're going to see is the Mankins dummy stuffed with TNT.
Usually those players are reserved for the Jets, you know, the ones that blow up in your face.
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by SlotMachinePlayer on May 17, 2010 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, if they were menat for the Jets, we wouldn't use TNT...
You HAVE to drag out the Bob-ombs for the Jets…
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on May 17, 2010 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions
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"To borrow a simile from the football field, we believe that men must play fair, but that there must be no shirking, and that the success can only come to the player who hits the line hard." — Theodore Roosevelt
by Chad Henne is Your New Bicycle on May 17, 2010 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Put Kickaczur over there and see what he can do.
He sure can’t handle the tackle spot very well. Maybe guard is up his alley.

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