Broncos OLB Elvis Dumervil Gets Contract Extension the Right Way...Lookin' at YOU, Mankins.
I've expressed that I want Pro Bowl Guard Logan Mankins under long term contract. So have the Krafts. So have his teammates. So what's the hold-up? Probably Mankins himself. I've supported Mankins this off-season because I believe that he deserves to get paid. He's one of the top five players at his position and should be paid like one. Unfortunately, Mankins is unhappy with top 5 money and that's where my support for him ends.
While Mankins has been throwing his temper tantrum because he was only offered the triple scoop and not the waffle cone, another player has gone through the same process that Mankins has- and now has a plump new contract. OLB Elvis Dumervil of the Denver Broncos was in the same exact position as Mankins. He was an RFA who was tendered. He was offered the same contract tender value as Mankins (ie: Far below his actual worth).
The difference? Dumervil watched his teammates get shipped away (WR Brandon Marshall and TE Tony Scheffler). He's watched his teammates not receive long term deals and he saw other players brought into the franchise to compete (QB Kyle Orton). Dumervil had no reason to keep his mouth shut and cooperate. But he did.
Actually, he didn't keep his mouth shut. This is what he was saying,
""I feel both parties want to get something done. It’s a work in progress. At the end of the day I’m happy to be a Bronco and I’m happy to be out here with new teammates and get back to playing football."
I'm pretty sure soon after the article was released, McDaniels and Dumervil were spotted pushing each other on swings at a nearby park. Gag.
Keep in mind that this is around the time that a Dumervil contract was no where in sight. And Dumervil went beyond words- he used his actions to show how important he is to the team. He showed up at mandatory minicamps without a contract. That's some commitment. And in camps where contact isn't allowed, there's especially no reason for a lineman not to show up...Mankins.
So where is each storyline right now? Dumervil just locked up a record contract deal for an OLB. Mankins is wrestling cows or something without a long term deal.
Read my message to Mankins after the jump.
See (now this is directed at Mankins), you're not irreplaceable. You're an elite left guard who gives the offensive line a little bite, but you're still not untouchable. You know who is untouchable? Vince Wilfork. He makes the defense function. Tom Brady. He makes the offense function. You? You're an interior lineman who is great at pulling for screens. You open up a few doors on offense, but by no means do you have a master key.
I'm sure a player like Nick Kaczur could come in and pull for screens almost as well. He'll be able to block almost as well. He won't be you, but he'll pass and he'll do a good enough job that no one will miss you. You weren't viewed as the best guard in either 2008 or 2009, so top 5 money is more than reasonable.
Now you're a great guy. Your teammates love you. You definitely bring some usefulness to the table. Just keep in mind that the franchise values respect. Wilfork was firm on his beliefs, but still received a long term deal. Adalius Thomas was kicked out. Look at the difference between how Belichick treats Josh McDaniels versus Eric Mangini. One left with respect, the other with his tail between his legs. This Patriots team runs on respect and you need to start showing it.
I don't think you realize that the team holds all the cards. What's your leverage? That you're a top 5 left guard, alright. Cool. So you're durable and haven't missed a game your entire career. Nice. What else? Do you bring that leadership that Dan Koppen has? It appears not. Do you have that Super Bowl ring that grandfathers you into new contracts? Oh wait, the Patriots don't do that unless you're a heart and soul player, like Kevin Faulk.
You're sitting as a top 5 guard with durability. You were offered top 5 money with a long term deal, which fits the player you are. So what's the problem?
Look, the Patriots take care of the players who deserve to be taken care of. I guarantee that if you sign a one year deal, for the money the Patriots were willing to offer, the team would be more willing to give you a long term deal of greater value. The team has other things to worry about. You remember how I was talking about those irreplaceable players? Something Brady? Well, he's looking at a contract too. With the way you're acting, he might be looking at a long term contract before you are.
You see, with next year in limbo, no one wants to hand out long term deals. Teams only want to give out money to players they know are the heart of their franchise. That means no money to malcontents. That means the players who get paid are the ones who say the right things, the ones who do the right things. You're doing neither.
So why don't you take a leaf out of Dumervil's book? Sign a short term deal and make it to camp. Show that you're committed to the franchise and that you want to help this team back to the top. It'll be worth it for both the team and your wallet.
And maybe, just maybe, at the end of camp, Belichick will take you out for a nice waffle cone.
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Great article.
I just don’t know if I am ready to accept Mankins back after he called out the organization and made a fool out of himself. That crap isn’t tolerated here in New England and I am not one who forgives and forgets easily. Logan has a lot of bridges to mend before he thinks about coming back.
My sentiments exactly.
Mankins has gone about this in completely the wrong way. Regardless of what may have gone down behind the scenes, he’s the one that came out to the media and said all the wrongs things. He’s the one demanding top dollar at position that isn’t a naturally “valuable” position (sorry to say it, but the difference in talent between a top-tier interior lineman and merely serviceable interior lineman is not that significant, but the pay difference is very significant). I know he’s in a lose-lose situation, because he has effectively no bargaining power, but he should be mature enough to realize that and work with what he has rather than throw a fit and thrash out at the nearest thing to him (the Patriots). I still believe his agent has talked him into this riled up, angry state (because it probably means more money for him in the long run), but he’s a grown man – he should be able to evaluate the situation with his own brain and come to a reasonable conclusion.
Principles? Whose are you talking about?
Let’s look at Mankins’ original bridge-burning quote:
"I was asked to play ’09 out, and that they would address contract after the uncapped year. I’m a team player, I took them at word, and I felt I played out an undervalued contract. That’s the big thing. Right now, this is about principle with me and keeping your word and how you treat people. This is what I thought the foundation of the Patriots was built on. Apparently, I was wrong. Growing up, I was taught a man’s word is his bond. Obviously this isn’t the case with the Patriots."
Does anyone else see several odd points here?
1. ’09 was not an uncapped year.
2. It’s clear Mankins was offered a contract, somewhere in the range of $6.5 million or $7 million per year. So the contact was "addressed" this year by the Patriots, just not to Mankins’ liking. Did Mankins think that by "addressed" this year, the Patriots would toss in extra $$$ to make up for what was in his eyes an "undervalued" contract the previous year? And did he go so far as to believe that the "addressing" would mean a contract worth more than that recently signed by Jhari Evans? Hard to believe that’s what he was thinking, but who knows.
Misunderstandings during contract negotiations are par for the course. What’s not is his public trashing of his team. Why play for a team that you feel has no principles about "keeping your word and how you treat people"? Personally, a contract for Mankins without an apology and retraction would not be enough for me. In attacking the Patriots’ principles, Mankins has sadly revealed the darker side of his own.
Agreed.
I believe everyone would be in Mankins’ camp right now if he showed up to all the camps. I also believe the team would be more willing to hand out an extra $500K a year if Mankins showed that he was willing- and that means giving Mankins a contract for more than he’s worth.
I wouldn’t mind if Mankins was traded during the season for a first round pick and we grabbed Rodney Hudson out of Florida State.
by Richard Hill on Jul 23, 2010 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm sure the Pats would be willing to listen if they were incentive bonuses or something akin to that
I mean, they put in a $500,000 weight bonus into Wilfork’s deal, surely they could throw in a $500,000 All-Pro bonus for Mankins or something to that effect? But apparently wrangling cows and crying to the press is easier than, you know, negotiating with your employer…
Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.
by Comedic.Sans on Jul 23, 2010 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Fine. Be company men. I’m not and will never be. Neither is Mankins. He’s been nothing but great since he’s been here. We have no reasons to believe that it’s he who’s being petulant. If you’re so eager to declare people greedy and want them to work for less than what they think they’re worth, then tell your own bosses that you’ll willingly take a pay cut. For the team.
You probably think unions are the ones who brought down the economy, right? These guys get one shot, really, to get paid. Leave the man alone.
If he reported to the camps, we may have different views on him. Because at least he is participating with the team.
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I took a pay cut of almost 50% for my team when the economy tanked
That was the only way to make sure none of the people working for me took a hit. And you’d be very hard pressed to find someone here more pro-union than I am.
But the Pats offered $7 million a year — that’s top five money for a top five guard. Mankins called that insulting because it wasn’t top one money, which would be around $9M/year — and he’s not the best guard in the league, and even if he was, the Pats aren’t about to pay a guard the same money as Randy Moss, who is a heck of a lot more valuable.
Frankly, it’s shocking that anyone would accuse people of being “company men” for being disgusted that someone would call it insulting to be offered $7 million a year to play a game. And if all he’d said was “I think I’m worth more,” I could respect that while disagreeing with him. But anyone who says he’s insulted by being offered that kind of money to play a game is being petulant.
by RSNexile on Jul 23, 2010 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Maybe what we need is an open letter to Logan Mankins from all the peopel on PatsPulpit...
Telling him to get his butt to training camp, or he’ll be remembered as a tragically selfish player.
Isn’t there a character in Shakespeare like that?
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jul 23, 2010 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Just the one?
Shakespeare’s littered with characters who get cut off at the knees because they’re too stubborn and proud to take a good thing when it’s offered, instead holding out for something that isn’t going to happen.
If Mankins is found dancing naked in a thunderstorm with twigs in his hair, he’s been hitting the King Lear a little hard. You heard it here first.
Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.
by Comedic.Sans on Jul 23, 2010 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Shylock, Tybalt, Othello, Claudius, countless Dukes, Paris, yeah...
Shakespeare’s loaded with them…
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jul 23, 2010 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions
50%
wow…not sure if i could do that. kudos to you…hope your team appreciates your sacrifice.
what do you do for a living..if you dont mind me asking?
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We have no reasons to believe that it’s he who’s being petulant. If you’re so eager to declare people greedy and want them to work for less than what they think they’re worth, then tell your own bosses that you’ll willingly take a pay cut. For the team
The Pats offered him a multi-year deal in the vicinity of $7M per year – that’s top-5 Guard money for a top-5 Guard. But Mankins was demanding $8M a year – top 2 Guard money – and considered that $1M difference a “slap in the face” and all that. Is Mankins a top-5 Guard in the NFL? I’d think so. Is Mankins the best or second-best Guard in the league? No. But he’s demanding top-2 money when he’s not a top-2 player. He might think he’s top-2, but he’s not. Paying him according to his delusions of grandeur isn’t going to help the team, so they’re not going to – having him bleat to the press about how it’s an insult that the team isn’t going to overpay him is ridiculous.
Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.
by Comedic.Sans on Jul 23, 2010 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm pretty sure that 99% of the world...
…is getting paid less than they think they’re worth- unless you think people are worth $10 an hour. And yes, we do have reason to believe that it’s his fault. The Patriots have offered him a fair contract deal and he wants to paid top dollar, even though he’s not the top guard in the league. I’d say that’s on Mankins, not the team.
And damn straight I’ll be a company man- that’s what salary caps are for. You can’t be a player person when there’s a salary cap. You have a certain amount of money to spread amongst the players. If you want a team that is competitive every year, you can’t pay every player top dollar- that’s not how you build a top to bottom team.
by Richard Hill on Jul 23, 2010 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions
frank i have no problem
with mankins not wanting to accept the contract the pats offered. i have zero problem with him trying to get every penny he can get. esp in football the next snap could be mankins last snap. i just dont like the way he played his hand. now do i think that the pats are perfect in this matter ? answer no prob not 100 percent but i have a hard time believing its as bad as mankins says it is.
Why is it 'being company men'
in acknowledging Mankins was offered a reasonable contract. He’d be paid as A top guard in the league in a long term deal, just not THE top guard. The offer was put on the table by the Patriots and Mankins refused to even negotiate. In a contract situation, both sides negotiate. What’s hard to understand?
You said about declaring people greedy and wanting them to work for less than what they think they’re worth. Such a callous statement. You’ve been blessed if you and others you know have been spared the company-wide percentage decrease in salaries, cuts in hours and benefits or transfers to less-desirable departments that double your commute just to stay employed at all.
This has nothing to do with unions in general, although Mankins’ real beef is with the agreement in place now – agreed to by his union – that prevented him from becoming an unrestricted free agent this year.
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