dez bryant already starting in dallas
by brady12mvp3 on Jul 26, 2010 11:59 AM EDT
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Starting his immature attitude again. I remember draft day this year very well i was sitting in my mantown with a few friends watching round 1 in primetime and having a good ole time. now most of my buddys disagreed with me when i said from pick one i really wanted the pats to draft dez bryant.. pick number 22 i was ready for them to call bryants name then they traded down and denver picked thomas so i was relieved maybe we traded down cause we knew bryant was going to be there but then dallas trade up to our spot and i was seriously pissed when they called dez bryants name.
now today july 26 2010 i want to extend my thanks to jerry jones for trading up to take this immature punk that thinks he is above the rules!!!!!!! this is just the begining guys my bet is dez bryant is the next nfl prima donna.
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Too early to tell what the effect of his actions will be
Michael Strahan talked about Jeremy Shockey’s first day with the team and how it was customary for the Giants to get their rookies to stand on a chair in the cafeteria and entertain them with a song. Rookies also had to stand up and yell out their name, school, draft pick and signing-bonus amount – but Shockey wouldn’t cooperate.
Shockey had the audacity to tell the group, “Later, I’m eating. I’m hungry.” and veteran Brandon Short took it personally ‘telling the rookie that his time had come and that time was now’. Shockey still refused until he ‘was done eating.’ Finally Shockey stood on a chair, yelled out his name, school and signing bonus and then called out Short, who immediately sprinted at Shockey threw a punch and they got into a huge tables-and-food-flying brawl.
Strahan said Shockey gained his respect (although he couldn’t admit it at the time) for standing up for himself and fighting for his rights. It also distinguished him as ‘no normal rookie.’
If Bryant continues to shadow Romo like he’s been doing, get to camp early, stay late, and work his butt off in preseason, this might all blow over pretty quickly. As long as he isn’t acting like a prima-donna about it, it all might depend on how it plays out from here.
Keep the faith!
Interesting story, especially after the Giants sent Shockey packing...
And from what I heard, a lot of the decision (although they said it was his injury history) was his bullying demeanour towards the younger players, including Eli Manning.
Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.
by Comedic.Sans on Jul 26, 2010 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions
you might be right
but i am full believer in paying youre dues as a rookie he should have picked up those pads and done it with a smile on his face.
The problem of immaturity doesn't usually matter too much in player-to-player relations.
Where is matters is player-to-coach and player-to-team relations. When a player thinks he’s the best thing to come around in 25 years, that’s not inherently a bad thing, even if it is an immature delusion. This confidence can be a tremendous asset to a young player in a league as fast-paced and competitive as the NFL. This immature confidence becomes problematic when a player refuses to take coaching, or refuses to play a certain role on the team because he sees it as beneath him.
If Bryant decides to be an ass to his teammates because he thinks he’s better than them, then good for him – he won’t make friends, but it’s not going to make his teammates play any less hard for him on Sunday. However, if Bryant’s immaturity leads him to reject coaching and constructive criticism, he’s doomed. It will be interesting to see how Bryant responds to coaching, especially from the oft disrespected and not-so-quick-witted Wade Phillips.
Jerry Jones has already blown so much smoke up this kids @$$, talking about how he’s the greatest WR draftee is a generation, etc etc… He’s almost set the kid up to crash and burn. Being a flippant punk on the first day of camp definitely isn’t a good sign, but it will be more interesting to see if this attitude carries over to his interactions with coaches and, on game day, referees.
I'm not so sure about that...
The problem of immaturity doesn’t usually matter too much in player-to-player relations.
I just think back to Terrell Owens. He started out relatively small – calling out Jeff Garcia as a homosexual in an interview with Playboy, which is bad but at least contained outside the locker-room – and escalated through to blowing apart the Eagles locker-room by attacking Donovan McNabb in public and private, getting his own QB canned at Dallas, and then trying to rip apart the Dallas locker-room a second time when he was jealous of the Romo-Witten connection. That sense of entitlement (not helped by Jerry Jones treating him like the second coming), coupled to a team that probably won’t discipline him, can turn toxic pretty quickly.
Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.
by Comedic.Sans on Jul 26, 2010 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I was trying to make a distinction which probably doesn't exist in reality.
I think it’s possible for a guy to be generally disliked by his teammates, but still be an excellent player, because he is willing to take coaching and focus on his game. TO turned his disrespect into a circus that slowly infected the rest of each team he was a part of. It might have always started with a TO v. Player dispute, but he’d always drag in coaches, the media, etc. TO also wouldn’t take coaching – he felt that he should always get the ball, and when he didn’t he made a huge scene. Moss, to a lesser extent, did the same thing in MIN (resulting in the “Randy Rule”). In these cases, the attitude wasn’t contained to equals (i.e. other players); it spread to superiors, as well. That is when things really break down. I think if a player acts like an ass to his fellow players, but remains a good, coachable player, he can get by just fine. Just like in any other professional setting, someone can be an ass to their co-workers, but they’re going to climb the ladder if they work hard and keep the bosses happy.
Having said that, I’m sure this sort of fine distinction doesn’t really exist in many, if any, players. When a player is disrespectful to teammates, it is usually because he is just a disrespectful person, generally. I think that just because Bryant shows disrespect to teammates doesn’t mean he can’t also be successful in the NFL, as long as he shows respect to superiors. I don’t think it’s likely, just that it’s possible.
The players that cause locker-room friction...
can be ignored for the time that the team is doing well. Jeremy Shockey was a pain in the rear at the Giants, but while they were winning and he was putting up stats, they put up with him. As soon as he got injured and unproductive, but didn’t stop his attacks on Eli Manning, they kicked him on his rear. Same with TO – the 49ers put up with his crap when he was putting up 1000 yard seasons, but as soon as there were issues, he was shown the door. The Eagles put up with him during a Superbowl run, but when he self-destructed the locker room, they made him inactive for half the season and then suspended him for 4 games without pay, then cut him.
There are a handful of positions someone completely unlikeable could survive in – perhaps kicker, because he doesn’t have to interact too much. But even then, you had to remember Peyton Manning calling Mike Vanderjagt the “idiot kicker” after the money-sign he gave the Pats bench before a FG attempt that he later missed.
You can ignore a lot of bad behaviour when you’re winning. As soon as you’re not, those little locker-room niggles blow way out of proportion. When teams like the Pats emphasise “character” and say guys are “high character” players, that’s what they’re worried about – locker-room implosions caused by someone grating against everyone else.
As a side-note: I don’t hold the Randy Moss issues in Minnesota against him. I think the core of that whole team was rotten; remember that half the squad was caught up in that “sex boat” scandal not long after Moss left. Moss wasn’t a bad apple in a barrel; he was an apple in a barrel of bad apples. And Moss in Oakland… it was Oakland. He had the bad luck of going from one horrible situation to another horrible situation.
Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.
by Comedic.Sans on Jul 26, 2010 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions
dez bryant is not the problem
any form of hazing is just childish behavior
making bryant into the “immature” one is ^&&*(((&% up
it’s the other players and coaches supporting it that need to grow up
he may become prima donna but that is another story
all we know know is that there is a lot of childish behavior supported in the nfl
it’s one thing to say it would be nice for him to carry the damn pads
it’s quite another when a more senior football person demands compliance with childish behavior
They said he was trouble, and he's proving them right.
Only a true troublemaker could turn a simple rookie hazing thing into a problem. I imagine Dallas is already starting to second guess themselves on the wisdom of their choice, and BB is smiling. The guy couldn’t even get to preseason game one without showing why he dropped in the draft.
Fire BB.
Actually most Cowboys Fans are Applauding Dez....
Most of the comments I’ve read indicate support for Dez. I also have to agree with the Hazing is stupid and Childish Faction… These are Professionals… Even the Rookies… they should be Treated as such
by I draft the Cowboys!!!! on Jul 29, 2010 3:11 AM EDT reply actions
hazing? cmon
carrying the vets pads and singing a school song or a bad haircut doesnt constitute hazing in my book hazing is something where someone can get hurt! roy williams carried someones pads it has been done for years. i hear he is the first one there last one to leave yada yada yada working hard and such but he is wrong on this in my opinion.
I know, it's not 'hazing' hazing.
The Pats veterans shaved off Laurence Maroney’s eyebrows when he was a rookie… I bet he would have preferred carrying some pads.
Keep the faith!
He deserves no less for going to Minnesota lol
And is 1-3 against Wisconsin in his career…
Note, its the one loss that I’m mad about.
My kingdom for a spellchecker...
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Aug 1, 2010 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions
just stop it
They play a game and get paid oodles of money for it. The TEAM is the most important thing here. Camaraderie and respect can be gained and lost with simple things like showing respect to your teammates. The Vets are the reason they get paid so well. Rookies should NEVER forget that there lively hood is because of there VET teammates. Carry pads, get taped to the goal posts, shave there head and make them sing there colleges fight song. These are all acceptable "Rights of Passage". These players will be set for life, if they choose and this is the cost for it. I would give up parts of my body to get the kind of financial security that an NFL player has. I am not ok with hurting people physically, mentally if they can’t handle a little issue like being taped to a goal post. Do you really want him as a teammate when the chips are down and there going to go complain to there momma’s about that mean man that hurt them. GROW UP AND BE AN ADULT
Jeffrey M Melhorn
I could have sworn you were goint say "GROW UP AND BE A WHORE LIKE EVERYONE ELSE"
because that’s where it looked like you were going.
Dez Bryant's not going to be starting immediately...
In fact, he could miss four to six weeks with a high ankle sprain…
My kingdom for a spellchecker...
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Aug 1, 2010 1:43 PM EDT reply actions
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