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New England Patriots Links 7/27/10 - Crable on PUP; Questions on Defense

Pat Chung visited patients at Mass General Hospital last week.

Tedy Bruschi offers his thoughts on the significant change-up in linebackers and in the defensive backfield.

I think the combination of Jerod Mayo, Gary Guyton, Brandon Spikes and Tyrone McKenzie is a good group at inside linebacker. Look for all four players to get experience at both spots -- the "Mike" and the "Will." It's vital that the inside linebackers have experience at both inside spots. The reads and responsibilities can be very different and it's very easy for an offense to flip a formation to make the linebackers change their assignments to the other position. Think about a tight end that shifts from one side of the formation to another. If the linebackers don't move, the "Mike" now becomes the "Will" and vice versa. This is a tactic used by offenses to exploit young linebacking corps. At outside linebacker, the Patriots coaches are hoping that Jermaine Cunningham will be the answer on one side. Tully Banta-Cain can get it done on the other. Derrick Burgess, Pierre Woods, Rob Ninkovich and Shawn Crable all have their individual question marks on if they can consistently contribute over a 16-game season. So the development of Cunningham will be one to watch closely throughout training camp.

I think the safety position may be the strongest on the defense with Brandon Meriweather, Brandon McGowan, Patrick Chung and James Sanders. Out of those four, you have four solid players possibly starting for you over the course of the year. Let's see if Meriweather can build upon his Pro Bowl season. Patrick Chung is a player that I think picked it up very quickly last year. He has the desire to be a good player and is starting to realize what it takes to be a true professional. I think he has tremendous upside. At cornerback, I feel confident with Leigh Bodden on one side. Out of Darius Butler and Devin McCourty, they should be able to find someone they feel comfortable starting opposite of Bodden. You need three good corners to play good defense in this league. With Bodden, you have one. If Butler makes positive strides, you possibly have two. You're also hoping a rookie can contribute. That's a lot to hope for, but you still have a chance to have three good corners.

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Welker on active PUP

Mike Florio explained it in a way that made sense:

Because he’s on the “active” version of the list, Welker can join practice at any time. If/when he does, however, the team will be required to count him toward the 80-man roster.

Until then, Welker can’t practice with the team, in any way. Two years ago, the Colts ran afoul of that rule by letting Peyton Manning participate in walk-through drills while still on PUP. No action was taken. (So, basically, maybe Welker can practice with the team before exiting the PUP list.)

A player can remain on the PUP list through camp and into the regular season. If on PUP to start the regular season, the player is not eligible to join the active roster through Week 6.

It dawned on me that other than for my own personal enjoyment at seeing him out there, there’s no reason or benefit whatsoever to having Welker participate in Training Camp at this point. Better for him to be out and have his roster spot used by another player.

Thought it was an interesting note regarding the Colts and Manning too. Different set of rules perhaps?

Keep the faith!

by Marima on Jul 27, 2010 11:40 AM EDT reply actions  

No, no! The rules aren't different!

Polian specifically made a loophole in the rules to allow the Colts to do whatever they see fit ;)

by Richard Hill on Jul 27, 2010 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

of course thay are

And if not polian would whine cry kick and pout till he got the rules changed in the colts favor…….. he is number 2 on my list of sports figures i cant stand phil jackson is number 1.

by brady12mvp3 on Jul 27, 2010 12:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Links

Both Curran video links take you to the Tom Brady clip.

"It is what it is." - Bill Belichick

by 108 on Jul 27, 2010 2:34 PM EDT reply actions  

So is Crable actually on the PUP list?

'A warrior may change his metal, but not his
heart,' as the saying is upon Barsoom." Dejah Thoris

by ba-shiznit on Jul 27, 2010 4:17 PM EDT reply actions  

yep the active pup

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by NinjaZX6R on Jul 27, 2010 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

stupid question

can a player on the active pup play in week 1 and so forth?

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by NinjaZX6R on Jul 27, 2010 4:30 PM EDT reply actions  

yes

they’re not limited to being out for 6 weeks, which would happen if he were put on Reserve PUP. Once they activate him he will take up a roster spot, and if he isn’t removed by week 1 then he has to sit out for 6 weeks.

Keep the faith!

by Marima on Jul 27, 2010 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

the one positive for crable

the patriots don’t have to make the full roster cuts until they have played their four preseason games

by prioris on Jul 27, 2010 4:43 PM EDT reply actions  

TO to the Bengals

That throws a spanner in the works. Either Antonio Bryant is broken, or they suddenly have a particularly good WR corps – Ocho, TO, Bryant, Gresham, etc. Ugh. McCourty’s going to be earning snaps pretty quickly, methinks.

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by Comedic.Sans on Jul 27, 2010 6:47 PM EDT reply actions  

me thinks Palmer will kill one of them by week 17

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by NinjaZX6R on Jul 28, 2010 12:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Haha, TO is the most likely one

Palmer’s put up with Ocho thus far, and to be fair, for all his theatrics Ocho’s always been positive about his own team-mates – he’s just overexuberant. But TO could well blow up if everyone but him gets receptions. If he complained about Romo having a connection with Witten, he could certainly complain about Palmer having a connection with Ocho/Bryant/Gresham.

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by Comedic.Sans on Jul 28, 2010 6:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

is anyone else thinking steriods about crable?

freakishly athletic, toothpick legs, chronically injured…

by DrJgopatsgators on Jul 28, 2010 12:03 PM EDT reply actions  

yikes

I hadn’t thought about it, but… ya never know.

Keep the faith!

by Marima on Jul 28, 2010 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

You'd think 'roids would mean he bulks up everywhere

I just think it’s bad genetics – perhaps he has a few fowl in the family tree? Those are definitely chicken-legs…

Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.

by Comedic.Sans on Jul 28, 2010 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

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