Five Patriots To Watch Against the Saints
On a team with so many unproven players about to be thrust into key roles it's hard to narrow it down to just five who we're most interested to see when the Patriots kick off their preseason against the New Orleans Saints. The Patriots will undoubtedly need contributions from a great majority of the twenty-four players they've added over the last two drafts, plus the handful of veterans they added this past off-season, but which five have the most pressure on them to impress immediately?
Our thoughts after the jump...
1. Gerard Warren/Damione Lewis: With Ty Warren out indefinitely, and an open position battle at right defensive end, both of these vets will need to prove that they can hold the point of attack in a two-gap scheme. Both are used to getting upfield in 4-3 defenses, so while they are proven in that system they remain newbies in the Patriots 3-4. In a division with so many dangerous ground games it is absolutely essential that the Patriots prove they can stop the run. While pass rush remains a concern it won't matter very much if teams can run all over the Pats like the Ravens did in the playoffs. I expect Warren and Lewis to see significant time against the Saints to help get them as much experience as possible.
Also keep an eye on dark horse rookie Brandon Deadrick as a potential 3-4 DE of the future.
2. Brandon Tate: Tater Tot has been having a good camp by all accounts. He's had some inconsistency at times, but he's had a share of spectacular catches and seems to be the favorite to win the starting kick off returner position, an underrated weakness of the 2009 Patriots. The lack of a legitimate third outside wide receiver also hurt the Pats in 2009, if Tate can provide a vertical threat opposite Randy Moss it will mean great things for underneath receivers like Wes Welker, Julian Edelman, and Aaron Hernandez.
Also keep an eye on rookie Taylor Price as another new wide receiver who could help.
3. Brandon Spikes: No rookie has built up greater hype in training camp than Spikes. He's logged a lot of time next to Jerod Mayo in the starting defense, and has even played some outside linebacker in passing situations, a move that some draft gurus thought he could excel at in the NFL. Any time Coach Belichick calls a player "interesting" you know there could be something special about him. We've heard the knocks on him for a lack of speed, but the Patriots have needed a ferocious run-stopping presence at the Mike linebacker position since Ted Johnson retired. You don't need to be sideline-to-sideline fast to play there, you just need to be a monster who can instantly diagnose a play and blow it up. Spikes just might be that presence, but with even more versatility than Johnson brought. He should see plenty of time against the Saints.
Also keep an eye on Tyrone McKenzie, as another linebacker whose role is not exactly known to us yet.
4. Whoever's playing OLB across from Tully Banta-Cain: It could be Jermaine Cunningham, Rob Ninkovich or Marques Murrell, all have seen time with the first defense in training camp and it seems as though this position battle is still wide open. We all know the number one knock on the Patriots is their lack of a pass rush threat, but whoever is to win this starting spot in the base 3-4 defense will need to be far more than just someone who can get after the quarterback. They must be able to drop into coverage and hold up at the point of attack. This could be the most interesting position to watch on Thursday night, and we'd like nothing better than one of these players to be making plays all over the field.
5. Dan Connolly: It's never sexy to focus on a left guard, especially in preseason but if the Patriots are to embark on the 2010 campaign without Logan Mankins and Nick Kaczur, Connolly will be a vital piece of the puzzle. He has the benefit of some playing experience in 2009, as well as playing in between two veterans like Matt Light and Dan Koppen. But the Patriots loved to run behind Mankins and their ground game could be limited if Connolly isn't as much of a road grader as Logan was. This will also put the spotlight on the other guards on the roster like Ryan Wendell, Eric Ghiaciuc, and Rich Ohrnberger as they rotate in. Let's not forget that Stephen Neal hasn't played a full season since 2005.
Who else are you guys excited to see on Thursday night?
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I just had this crazy idea of having Pat Williams and Vince Wilfork on the same D-line...
I’m not sure how it would work, but I think it would be VERY difficult to have a successful rushing play…
My kingdom for a spellchecker. Or Devin Harris. Hopefully both.
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Aug 11, 2010 5:32 PM EDT reply actions
It would also be very difficult...
for any other Pats employees/players in gillette stadium to get any food.
by MikeDussault on Aug 11, 2010 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Who cares about that?
A top five rushing defense would REALLY help…
My kingdom for a spellchecker. Or Devin Harris. Hopefully both.
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Aug 11, 2010 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Your plan for getting Pat Williams from the Vikes?
by MikeDussault on Aug 11, 2010 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Brace + 3rd round pick
Besides, it’s not like PW will have to worry about his QB’s mental state…
My kingdom for a spellchecker. Or Devin Harris. Hopefully both.
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Aug 11, 2010 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Or just suggest that he could play on a title contender with Vince Wilfork and Jerod Mayo...
My kingdom for a spellchecker. Or Devin Harris. Hopefully both.
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Aug 11, 2010 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions
You almost made a quote from Sin City!
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
Down with Big Brother!
I'm excited to see...
…the young guys like Brandon Deaderick and Kade Weston. Darryl Richard is also a name that’s forgotten. I want to see how the young guys in the trenches play.
My watch list:
Deaderick
Weston
Richard
Kyle Love
Myron Pryor
George Bussey
Ted Larsen
Rich Ohnrberger
Thomas Welch
Ryan Wendell
I want to see these guys in action. I’d add Ron Brace, but he’s not going to be suiting up.
What's the end game on Brace?
Do they put him on IR or cut him? Gonna take a minor miracle for him to make the 52.
by MikeDussault on Aug 11, 2010 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I think they IR him...
…they can’t cut him after 1 season. I just can’t see that happening.
by Richard Hill on Aug 11, 2010 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions
It would be a tough cut...
but the guy has no injury that we know of (though could get a case of the foxboro flu). He is from worcester which is a commutable distance from Foxboro. He wasnt a offseason award winner – what was his excuse? Wanted to be home?
He cant pass the physical. They didnt mysteriously pass him over the weekend when everyone was gone (thought that might be a possibility).
What do you do with a guy who has no excuse for being off the field? Especially in that leap year from 1 to 2nd year. He is coming up small.
All told it would be hard to cut him, but jesus this guy better have a unknown excuse we havent heard yet (injury, ill family member, etc).
It's hard to say...
it was clear he is one of the slowest athletes around – he’s a 340lb Nose Tackle without Wilfork’s first-round athleticism. But presumably he passed the test first time in his rookie year, so he is capable – even with a slow 40 time he could manage it. So he’s hurt, completely unfit, or just mentally soft.
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by Comedic.Sans on Aug 12, 2010 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions
i like your watch list the best
i’d like to see another DE emerge
see what deaderick or even weston could do
then another OL
throw welch in there to push his learning curve a little
also larsen
they may all get run over due to not enough technique and experience but some people actually progress faster under pressure
also Fletcher
i think he would grow faster with experience
Here is quiz
Quick !
Name the starting right guard of patriots superbowl game wins?
In actuality...
…our O-Line was filled with 0 star power in the Super Bowl wins. It was filled with lunch-pail guys who were able to punch out defensive players. And while our current offensive line is able to create a pocket around Brady, I don’t see the same real venom anymore.
by Richard Hill on Aug 11, 2010 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions
A more impressive question:
Who played right tackle?
by Richard Hill on Aug 11, 2010 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Greg Robinson-Randall!
I remember that name. Now. Took a while to stick, though.
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by Comedic.Sans on Aug 11, 2010 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions
That's only in 2001!
Tom Ashworth and Brandon Gorin were the other two!
by Richard Hill on Aug 11, 2010 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Ashworth I remember, of course
Gorin started? Or was purely a backup?
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by Comedic.Sans on Aug 11, 2010 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Brace on the PUP list would allow him
to play later this season. Is that an option for the PATS? It certainly seems ridiculous to put Brace on IR. That would be two seasons of non productivity from a high draft pick.
If possible, I would opt for PUP or release him if there is a financial gain in doing so. If not, I guess IR.
Good call
6 more weeks to pass the stupid conditioning run and tweet Dr. Seuss quotes.
by MikeDussault on Aug 12, 2010 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Doesnt he have to be pup'd from day one?
maybe he was and I missed it. If so nevermind.
If he wasnt pup’d day one of training camp…that option is gone.
I believe that he was PUP'd..
and is still eligible.
by MikeDussault on Aug 12, 2010 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions
I believe he was put on the 'Active PUP'
As was Welker. Welker is off it now.
Tate, and Cunningham.
I want to see chemistry with the QB, route running, and catching skills of tate.
I want to see how well cunningham is against blockers, coverages, and covering his gaps.
Also, I should keep an eye on weatley. He may surprise us this year.
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
Down with Big Brother!
It'll definitely be interesting to see where Fletcher lines up in the practice games
Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.
by Comedic.Sans on Aug 11, 2010 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Does anyone besides me think that our defense can become like the ravens?
Meriweather is like our ed reed. Chung adds that hitting, tackling presence.
Our CBs are very raven esque, with McCourty and Bodden tough corners who play near the line. Boden as the athletis corner.
Our LBs are kind of close. Banta-Cain is like our pass rusher in Terrel Suggs(I know. Not as good. but potentially is what I’m saying). Mayo reminds me a bit of ray Lewis, but he needs to put on a bit more muscle. And if not Mayo then definitely Spikes. Two potentially great ILBs. And Cunningham… well I we have yet to see him in game action, but potentially, I think our LB corpse can be similar, or potentially similar to the ravens.
We have plenty of guys on the DL. Besides the obvious ones in Wilfork and the Warrens, Wright and Pryor seems to have great potential as situational guys. Lewis I heard he was a pretty good pass rusher. Anyways, I dont know how to rank our DL with the ravens, or how it has the potential to be just as good as theirs, so I’ll leave that up to you guys to decide.
Anyways, I have high hopes for our defense, especially in the near future. I think we can be a top 5 defense 2-3 years from now.
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
Down with Big Brother!
Though we lack a true stud OLB at the moment...
Great defenses have to be built from the inside out and with Wilfork/Mayo/Spikes we hopefully have that. I don’t think this defense will truly start to peak until after next year’s draft. But yes, I think it can return to a dominant status.
by MikeDussault on Aug 12, 2010 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions
Hoodie said that this year at one point
Something along the lines of “on the line and up the middle” – meaning D-linemen, ILBs and Safeties. Presumably that means CBs and OLBs are slightly less important under his philosophy.
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by Comedic.Sans on Aug 12, 2010 3:18 AM EDT up reply actions
also
Either Mayo or Spikes can be like Bart Scott, when he was on the ravens. :)
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by patriotguy2 on Aug 12, 2010 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm so optimistic about Spikes, I'm not that excited to see him.
Does that make sense? We just all seem to know that he’ll be good. Of course, nothing’s definite, but we all at least know what he’ll be trying to do. I’m more excited to see what kind of role(s) Hernandez will play, or what kind of routes Tate will run. Those two seem a bit less clear.
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by LegendaryTadpole on Aug 11, 2010 11:45 PM EDT reply actions
I think there should be a poll choice that says "Every single Patriot rookie."
Who knows? Maybe someone will be the next Neal or Vollmer (you know, very little to zero football experience and suddenly he makes an impact for the team).
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Maybe someone will be the next Neal or Vollmer (you know, very little to zero football experience and suddenly he makes an impact for the team
Ted Larsen might be your outsider-who-contributes. He’s ostensibly a Center or Guard, but up until a couple of years ago he was plying his trade on the D-line. In other words, he is very new to the position, is an O-lineman, and has some interesting physical abilities. Sound a little Vollmer-ish?
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by Comedic.Sans on Aug 12, 2010 3:21 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm willing to bet that it is Larsen.
That would be pretty sweet if he can repeat what Vollmer did last year.
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I am hoping for a Myron Pryor type along the lines of scrimmage...
Solid player, unsuspected contributor. You could tell almost immediately on Pryor, that he was solid.

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