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Patriots Outlast Saints in Preseason Opener, Win 27-24

FOXBORO MA - AUGUST 12: Tom Brady # 12 of the New England Patriots throws a pass during the preseason game against the New Orleans Saints at Gillette Stadium on August 12 2010 in Foxboro Massachusetts. (Photo by Jim Rogash/Getty Images)

The Patriots opened the 2010 NFL preseason with a win over the defending world champion New Orleans Saints.

From the get-go, the intensity was high and the defense came out and held the Saints to a quick three and out.  The first play, Jerod Mayo stuffed Pierre Thomas for a three yard gain.  Play two, a blitz that was led by a charging Gerard Warren and Marques Murrell, causing Drew Brees to essentially throw the ball into the ground.  The final play of the series: a beautiful rush off the edge by Marques Murrell who sacked Drew Brees, with help coming from Tully Banta-Cain coming up the middle.The first team defense applied constant pressure, and played a few solid series, before handing the reigns over to the 2nd team.

Following the 3-and-out, Julian Edelman got things going with a 41 yard punt return, setting up the Patriots in great field position.  However, the offense couldn't get going and the team settled with a field goal.

Speaking of Edelman, he had an exceptional game.  While the offensive numbers are impressive, six catches for 90 yards, they don't illustrate how quick this guy is.  Honestly, he may be as shifty as Welker.  My favorite play of the day came on the second drive, when Edelman, who was essentially at a stand-still, juked a charging Saints corner off a screen pass, coming up with a first down in the process.  As quick and shifty as he is, Edelman also has great acceleration, something a lot of people have really looked past.

On the Saints second drive, they were shut down on the ground the first two plays on stops by Vince Wilfork and a combined stop by Darius Butler and Brandon Spikes.  On third down, Drew Brees found Lance Moore on a quick out near the right sideline, but Patrick Chung quickly closed and made a beautiful tackle.

The second offensive drive for the Patriots went a lot better. Tom Brady led the team straight down the field on the team's second drive, including a pair of long completions to Randy Moss and a great twenty yard grab by second year receiver Brandon Tate.  BenJarvus Green-Ellis also had some solid running.  While he isn't flashy and certainly isn't the most talented, he is tough, decisive, and takes everything he can get.  Green-Ellis finished off the drive with a nice run on a stacked goal line set that had all three of the Patriots tight ends stacked on one side.

Once Brian Hoyer took over, the team continued to press the gas pedal.  Hoyer guided the team to a 24-7 lead midway through the third quarter.  Hoyer looked very poised in the pocket, stepping up when the rush came from the edge and making nice throws.  There is no competition for the 2nd string quarterback spot, Hoyer looks like the real thing.

While the wheels came off a little bit following a Saints kick return touchdown as well as a touchdown drive led by Patrick Ramsey, the Patriots pulled it together when it mattered most.  The Saints had the ball first and goal on the two yard line, down 24-21 with four minutes remaining.  On first and goal, Chase Daniel threw a quick slant to Adrian Arrington which was broken up by Terrence Wheatley with a nice hit coming in from Dane Fletcher.  On second down, Kyle Love, Tyrone McKenzie, Devin McCourty and other combined to stop a Saints running play at the one.  Then on third and goal, cornerback Terrence Wheatley came up with another big play, stuffing Chase Daniel five yards behind the line on a designed quarterback keeper.  With the goal line stand, the Saints settled for the field goal, leaving the game tied with under three minutes to play.

The final drive wasn't pretty for the Patriots.  Rookie Zac Robinson, who had terrible protection from the 3rd team offensive line, was almost strip sacked on the opening play (with a terrible "attempt" at a block by Thomas Welch, who looked extremely slow on the play).  The team finally got going with a couple of nice runs by the recently re-signed Thomas Clayton.  On third and 11, still in their own territory, Robinson threw a screen to Darnell Jenkins, who used his speed and quickness to blaze 52 yards down the field and into field goal range.  A few plays later, Stephen Gostkowski booted through a field goal, and the Patriots were up 24-27 with less than a minute left.

The Saints got one final try to tie up the score, but ended up turning it over on the opening play of the drive.  Chase Daniel fired a pass to receiver Montez Billings.  Billings had the ball, but was absolutely rocked by rookie free agent Sergio Brown, the ball popped into the air, and Eric Alexander grabbed the interception, thereby sealing the game and the Patriots victory.

More of my thoughts after the jump!

Star-divide

  • Aaron Hernandez looked quick, but we didn't get to see much of him.  Still, we got the idea that he will be used in a variety of roles, including catching screen passes, in the backfield, etc.  His rookie counterpart, Rob Gronkowski, had a sub-par performance, in my opinion.  He blocked well in the first half, but in the second, just didn't look good as a blocker.
  • Veteran newcomer Gerard Warren had a good game.  He provided some nice pass rush, showing surprising athleticism, getting the start at defensive end.  It looks like he should be a nice player along the defensive line for the Patriots this season, possibly in the form of an Anthony Pleasant from earlier last decade.
  • The Patriots got some nice result from their two third year cornerbacks Jonathan Wilhite and Terrence Wheatley.  Wilhite showed that he still has those tools, he's got some of the best change of direction and closing speed I've seen in a cornerback, he just needs to put it together (hence why he was a 4th round pick).  He made a couple of nice breakups tonight.  Terrence Wheatley stepped up on special teams, and in run support.  He also had a nice breakup in that goal line stand in the fourth quarter.
  • Brandon Spikes is the real deal.  He was really impressive, combining on eight tackles, showing great instincts and was always around the ball.  He was also a fiery leader.  Next to him, Jerod Mayo also played well in the few snaps he played.  He looked back to 2008 form.
  • Tom Brady and Randy Moss are going to be back to their 2007 ways in 2010, except without 23 touchdowns.  Still, these two are playing with a purpose.
  • Rookie defensive lineman Brandon Deaderick had a great debut.  He was able to hold up well against double teams, but he also got some great pass rush when attacking.  I'm thinking big things for him.  He really impressed me with his one on ones.
  • Patrick Chung had a nice game.  He was always around the ball, made some nice tackles, and played all over the field, from a linebacker type position, to a deep safety.
  • Devin McCourty is your kick returner, Julian Edelman is your punt returner.  Enough said.
  • Speaking of special teams, Zoltan Mesko had a solid debut as a punter.  He also brought down a shaky snap on Stephen Gostkowski's first field goal.
  • Not to be cocky because it was a complete guess.... but, my pre-game prediction was Patriots 27, Saints 23.  I was as close as I'm ever going to get.

Overall, a great opening game.  And although it's preseason, it's nice to start things off with a win.  Next week, the Patriots will have another bundle of joint practices, this time in preparation for the Falcons and their Thursday match-up.  

Stay tuned for more preseason over-analysis tomorrow.

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C
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D
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I gave the Pats an overall grade of a "B"...

First stringers looked great and reserves not so much during the middle but picked it up at the end of the game.

by Mike-Dub on Aug 12, 2010 10:36 PM EDT reply actions  

My review:

Offense:
1st: B+ – Brady was Brady. Edelman was awesome. Showed a solid everything.
2nd: B+ – Hoyer did excellently moving the ball downfield and Maroney did okay.
3rd: C – Running the ball very well, but the O-Line couldn’t open up anything for Robinson.

Running game was solid, but I want a player who can pick up 3-5 yards every down.

Defense:
1st: B – Every position did exceptionally well, except for outside linebacker. I was still unimpressed.
2nd: C – They were average. Had some big plays, had some big missed. Canceled out, average.
3rd: C – Same as 2nd string.

Special Teams – B+. Mesko was awesome. Gostkowski was awesome. Edelman was awesome. McCourty was awesome. Wheatley was awesome. But they gave up a TD.

So B+ sounds good.

by Richard Hill on Aug 12, 2010 10:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Can't give a B+ for special teams

seeing as how the gave up the TD. Just getting to see it now on the west coast and it was ugly. a “C” TOPS

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by DocOne on Aug 13, 2010 1:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

But I voted B overall

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by DocOne on Aug 13, 2010 1:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

In some ways, that TD might be a blessing in disguise

I’d rather they give a return TD now and have plenty of time to re-jig the unit and look at what happened, than have it happen in the later parts of the season. It’s also a good chance to look at which 3rd and 4th stringers can cut it on the field and figure out which fit the ST unit – and coughing up a ST TD means the emphasis is on the ST rather than “who’d be the best 3rd string OLB”.

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by Comedic.Sans on Aug 13, 2010 1:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Pretty sure Ventrone

had outside contain on the TD return. He was so jacked to be in the game he beelined and speared a blocker and knocked himself out on his feet.

Had he had his wits about him, he would’ve been able to slow the returner down on the cutback and the TD wouldnt have happened. He was at fault, I think.

by McGarry on Aug 13, 2010 9:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

The TD wasn't with the same ST unit

Have to give them a B+ overall

Keep the faith!

by Marima on Aug 13, 2010 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

I've already started my re-watch

This NFL preseason live has a really good 10-second replay and fast forward which is really helping me break down plays.

by Greg Knopping on Aug 12, 2010 10:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Excellent. I'm off to bed.

I have to pack up tomorrow. Go move in at school on Saturday!

by Richard Hill on Aug 12, 2010 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good luck

I’ve got an extra week :D

Syracuse does play BC in football this year!

by Greg Knopping on Aug 12, 2010 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I went to high school...

…with Cam Dantley (who, I believe, was your quarterback a year or two ago?)

by Richard Hill on Aug 12, 2010 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good luck Rich...

I’m heading down to Florida on the 18th for school.

by Mike-Dub on Aug 12, 2010 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

going to my second college class on the 8th of Sept.

Media!

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by patriotguy2 on Aug 12, 2010 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Related to Sports I'm guessing...

I’m going to be studying Sports Management.

by Mike-Dub on Aug 12, 2010 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well... it's one of the branches that I may take.

I’m right now in the focus of movies, or filming. If that doesn’t work out, then sports or drafting are next, with drafting in the lead, simply because I have experience of it from my shop in highschool.

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by patriotguy2 on Aug 12, 2010 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Another word for Drafting is Engineer.

Mechanical Engineer is the direction I would take, if I were to go in the drafting direction. It certainly seems the easiest(in terms of getting into a college, and finding a job).

Yeah, my interests are still up in the air at the moment, and thanks.

What’s your study?

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by patriotguy2 on Aug 12, 2010 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just Sports Management.

I really have my goals set high though so I’m going to have to go to school for a lllloooonnnnggggg time.

by Mike-Dub on Aug 12, 2010 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm a junior but still completely undecided

Should I go into newspaper journalism, which is a dying field?
Broadcast television?
Sports management?

Or should I give up and just go into law? Too many questions.

by Greg Knopping on Aug 12, 2010 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm going into Sports Management.

Broadcast television and Newspaper Journalism all sound good too. Journalism doesn’t just have to be Newspaper though. They’re are plenty of other kinds out there as you know.

I say go with your passion.

by Mike-Dub on Aug 12, 2010 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

if you want to work for media

i’d suggest you set your sights to work for the cia or even nsa

they will find you employment in field fast

otherwise i would give up journalism quest

with all jobs being permanently shipped out of country

it would be difficult to suggest a career

maybe veteranarian ,,, there is a shortage

by prioris on Aug 13, 2010 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

how old are you?

thought your were late 20’s early 30’s

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by NinjaZX6R on Aug 13, 2010 2:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nope, just 20

Started blogging when I was 15. So I guess this will be my 5th full season blogging the team, although I’ve done some Patriots writing online since the 2002 season.

by Greg Knopping on Aug 13, 2010 2:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

wow

impressive…from your work on this site…i seriously thought you were in your late 20’s- early 30’s….where you do go to school?

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by NinjaZX6R on Aug 13, 2010 4:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

I go to Syracuse University, home of the Orangemen

We got some great sports there too. Well, maybe not football, but you get my point.

by Greg Knopping on Aug 13, 2010 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

my best buddy went there for a year and then transferred to ohio state

only bc they had a better aviation management major…also my big sis went there for grad school

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by NinjaZX6R on Aug 13, 2010 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice!

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by patriotguy2 on Aug 13, 2010 7:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

I started blogging here at 16.

This was basically my first blogging site! SB nation is the only blog site I go to, and I am happy. :)

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by patriotguy2 on Aug 13, 2010 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

go into all three

and give Mike Florio some quality competition

Keep the faith!

by Marima on Aug 13, 2010 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

suckers

osu starts sept 22nd

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by NinjaZX6R on Aug 13, 2010 2:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah its awesome but we get out in the 1st week of dec

the only bad thing is that by the end of spring qtr….we get out in june…which sucks

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by NinjaZX6R on Aug 13, 2010 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good Luck with your moving and shaking

or packing and moving. Can’t believe it’s that time of year again.

Keep the faith!

by Marima on Aug 13, 2010 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

slowly moving to my new apt w. my buddy

i HATE MOVING

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by NinjaZX6R on Aug 13, 2010 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

any word on what type of injury the saints punter suffered?

saw Brady on tv wrapping his right elbow

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by NinjaZX6R on Aug 13, 2010 2:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

His X-rays are negative

But they’re doing MRIs soon. Ie – it aint broke, but it still hurts.

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by Comedic.Sans on Aug 13, 2010 3:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

I give overall performance an A.

I saw consistency, and diversity in our offense. And I thought I saw more pressure than I thought aI would, particularly from our DL, and I like that. Our secondary did well too.

I give our Defense: B+
Offense: A

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by patriotguy2 on Aug 12, 2010 11:07 PM EDT reply actions  

I

fogot how much I love football

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by bestbostonsports on Aug 12, 2010 11:41 PM EDT reply actions  

this

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by NinjaZX6R on Aug 13, 2010 2:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Unclear, but likely

There was a report a day or two ago about how he was taken out of practice after a hard hit of some sort, so it could well be connected.

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by Comedic.Sans on Aug 12, 2010 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

just found this from reiss

Cunningham, one of the team’s second-round draft choices, was sidelined in Wednesday’s practice with an undisclosed injury sustained during a drill in which he was on the punt return unit.

by prioris on Aug 12, 2010 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's the one, yeah

Which doesn’t say a lot – no indication of injury, severity, or recovery time.

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by Comedic.Sans on Aug 13, 2010 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

He played some and looked alright

But was part of the 3rd string defense, playing behind Dane Fletcher

by Greg Knopping on Aug 13, 2010 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

that seems ridiculous

not to play mckenzie with first string

hope they give him a whole lot more time in remaining preseason games so we can get a better idea what he can do

i hope they give price some reps with first string also

by prioris on Aug 13, 2010 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

It might be because he's had more time in the system

Fletcher and Spikes are brand-new to the playbook, whereas McKenzie has had a year to absorb it. It might be more about giving the first two reps to get them up to speed, and then using them in a rotation later.

Hard to say, though – it IS Belichick.

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by Comedic.Sans on Aug 13, 2010 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

no - that makes sense

BB doesn’t always play from the top of the depth chart down in preseason – he very often flips the order for positions that he wants to get a closer look at from the bottom up.

Hence, for example, Law Firm got all the reps with the first team.

Basically, you can’t read too much into who got to play with whom in this first preseason game.

by mmmmm on Aug 13, 2010 12:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Overall, nice.

Didn’t like how it got close when it should have been a blow-out, but I’m glad to hear they got it together when it mattered. Also, some solid showings by a lot of the first-year players. Looking forward to reading more about them real soon.

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by R_Adragna on Aug 12, 2010 11:50 PM EDT reply actions  

To be fair...

…the Saints only got back when it was their 2nd team offense against our 3rd team defense.

by Richard Hill on Aug 13, 2010 9:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

if they didn't put germaine in

it’s difficult to assess the state of the OLB position

by prioris on Aug 12, 2010 11:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Agreed, although Richard Hill was disappointed with what he saw

I thought Marques Murrell was a nice surprise, and I thought Tully Banta-Cain was alright tonight (he really should have got a half sack on the Murrell).

Overall, the team used a lot of different blitzes to generate pressure, and even had the defensive line in more of an attacking mode. This could become a theme in 2010.

by Greg Knopping on Aug 13, 2010 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

i would love for the pats to rank in the top 5 in blitzes this yr

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by NinjaZX6R on Aug 13, 2010 2:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes and no

I’d like them to get a pass-rush without needing to blitz, but I’d like them to also have such confidence in the defensive backfield that they feel like they can blitz. It’s a balancing act.

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by Comedic.Sans on Aug 13, 2010 3:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah...

…Murrell was solid at getting into the backfield, but he got exposed in coverage. TBC was his same average, solid, but unspectacular self. Ninkovich was himself as a solid substitute, but isn’t starter material. I was hoping that someone would emerge as a complete player (sort of unrealistic expectation for a first preseason game) and that didn’t happen. I was actually more happy with how many players emerged on the defensive line.

I can see the following D-Liners making the roster:
Warren, Warren, Wilfork, Wright, Pryor, Deaderick, Brace and maybe- just maybe- one other. Or if Brace gets PUPed, maybe someone else.

by Richard Hill on Aug 13, 2010 9:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Deaderick got great reviews from many scouts but went 7th round due to ....

injuries from being shot. that caued him to loose his starting slot in last year.

this is another player that doesn’t gets much attention from people

==
Rookie defensive lineman Brandon Deaderick had a great debut. He was able to hold up well against double teams, but he also got some great pass rush when attacking. I’m thinking big things for him. He really impressed me with his one on ones.

by prioris on Aug 13, 2010 1:26 AM EDT reply actions  

Spikes was a beast

so much for his 4.90 speed

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by NinjaZX6R on Aug 13, 2010 2:11 AM EDT reply actions  

regarding the pass rush...

There was a good amount of pass rush from our DL, and I thought our OLBs, Banta-Cain and Murrel, provided more pass rush than we most thought.

Keep in mind that the saints first team started doing A LOT of screens and dump offs, so we wouldn’t
t be able to assess our pass rush from our OLBs fully. But it was obvious that the saints offense wanted to dump the ball off fast against our first team defense.

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by patriotguy2 on Aug 13, 2010 8:03 AM EDT reply actions  

Some info on patriots.com

http://www.patriots.com/news/index.cfm?ac=generalnewsdetail&pid=43997

Apparently Murrel was only in for 3-4 series, then ninkonvich came in. And apparently Dan Fletcher came in the second quarter.

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by patriotguy2 on Aug 13, 2010 8:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

PLay time chart:

TE Aaron Hernandez – 57 of 67
TE Rob Gronkowski – 45 of 67
WR Brandon Tate – 29 of 67
QB Brian Hoyer – 26 of 67
WR Taylor Price – 26 of 67
QB Zac Robinson – 24 of 67
WR Darnell Jenkins – 23 of 67
WR Julian Edelman – 22 of 67
RB BenJarvus Green-Ellis – 21 of 67
WB Tom Brady – 17 of 67
RB Chris Taylor – 17 of 67
WR Randy Moss – 16 of 67
TE Alge Crumpler – 15 of 67
WR Sam Aiken – 14 of 67
WR Rod Owens – 14 of 67
RB Laurence Maroney – 12 of 67
RB Thomas Clayton – 7 of 67
RB Sammy Morris – 7 of 67
TE Carson Butler – 5 of 67
RB Kevin Faulk – 3 of 67
FB Thomas Williams – 2 of 67

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by patriotguy2 on Aug 13, 2010 9:17 AM EDT reply actions  

courtesy of espn.com :)

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by patriotguy2 on Aug 13, 2010 9:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Tate really played that much?

Why didn’t we hear his name called more in the passing game?

by Richard Hill on Aug 13, 2010 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Brady only threw 8 times? And he had edelman and moss, who are the more likely targets that he'll throw to.

Hoyer seemed to also enjoy edelman a bit too much as well. I think the saints were focusing more on covering tate and moss, and didn’t think edelman would be that much of a factor.

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by patriotguy2 on Aug 13, 2010 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

reason why I may think this

is because many of the plays edelman made, were after the catch. I didn’t think the saints defense was expecting edelman to juke everyone in sight, and get an extra 10 yards.

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by patriotguy2 on Aug 13, 2010 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Zac Robinson didn't throw beyond the line of scrimmage

And he was on for over a third of the snaps. I couldn’t tell you how many of those were at the same time as Robinson, but it could well be that Tate was on the field for the snaps that Robinson was throwing screens.

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by Comedic.Sans on Aug 13, 2010 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

nice read.

I didn’t realize that.

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by patriotguy2 on Aug 14, 2010 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

and here's more from the article:

QUICK-HIT THOUGHTS: Brady, Moss, Crumpler and the top-unit offensive line did not play after the second series. … Hernandez was the only player who was on the field for at least one play on every drive. … Gronkowski was part of every drive except for the two-minute drill at the end of the first half. … The top receiving trio was Moss, Edelman and Tate, with Aiken the fourth option. … The receiving trio of Price, Owens and Jenkins played the final five series. … Veteran running back Fred Taylor dressed but did not play; he said he was told beforehand that would be the case as the plan is to feature each of the backs at different points of the preseason.

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by patriotguy2 on Aug 13, 2010 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think Gronkowski had "Mayo Syndrome"...

…because he played excellently around the first team offense and the second team. But once he played with the 3rd stringers, he looked overwhelmed. I that that’s less to do with Gronk and more to do with the players around him able to do their job and with the 3rd team, as Comedic.Sans put it, he was playing with two former tight ends, a guy who has been with the team for 3 days and a guy who played defense a couple years ago.

by Richard Hill on Aug 13, 2010 9:18 AM EDT reply actions  

yeah - I missed a large chunk of the second half

( my son injured himself and we had to rush him to the ER to get 3 stiches above his ear!).

I was surprised by your earlier comment that Gronk didn’t block well in the second half – he looked awesome in the first half. I especially loved that block he laid out as part of the road plowing the line did for Law Firm’s run.

But yeah – if things are breaking down around him, he may have started worrying too much about other people’s jobs and not doing his as well.

by mmmmm on Aug 13, 2010 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought Gronk was superb on blocking yesterday.

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by patriotguy2 on Aug 13, 2010 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

That was actually Greg's accurate observation...

…I stopped really watching the tight ends with the 3rd string offense since I thought they were last stringers- didn’t realize it was Gronk and A-Hern. I want to chalk it up to the players surrounding him, but I didn’t watch enough of him to be sure of that.

by Richard Hill on Aug 13, 2010 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

With Murrell most likely making the team...

…and Dane Fletcher having a positive impact, what does that mean to the defensive roster spots? What about when Guyton returns?

by Richard Hill on Aug 13, 2010 9:22 AM EDT reply actions  

A Murrell-for-Alexander swap... (sorry, Alexander)

And perhaps Fletcher taking that Adalius Thomas roster spot.

Reiss interestingly left Tyrone McKenzie off his projected 53. I think McKenzie will stick around, but that’s how tight it might be.

Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.

by Comedic.Sans on Aug 13, 2010 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

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