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Patriots Sign Two, Place Torry Holt On IR, Waive Ventrone

Torry Holt won't be catching passes for the Patriots this season.

The Patriots made a few roster moves today.  The team re-signed wide receiver Buddy Farnham and added offensive lineman Brian Simmons.  To make room for the pair, the team placed veteran wide receiver Torry Holt on injured reserve, and waived rookie free agent Ross Ventrone.

Farnham is a rookie wide receiver out of Brown who was released by the team last week.  Farnham faces long shots to make the final roster, but is a strong candidate to land a spot on the practice squad.  Brian Simmons is a 6-4, 315 pound rookie free agent out of Oklahoma.  He is a long shot to make the roster, but should provide some depth on the interior line during training camp.

Safety Ross Ventrone injured himself in Thursday's game against the Saints.  It's unclear at this point whether Ventrone was flat out waived, or waived/injured.

The big news, of course, is that Torry Holt has been placed on injured reserve.  Although he wasn't released, as I speculated he would be earlier today, Holt's days with the Patriots are likely over.  It would be a long shot for the Patriots to re-sign Holt next offseason.  Holt, 34, signed a one year deal with the Patriots in April.

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Nice! Farnham's back!

Oh well for Holt, but I didn’t expect him to contribute numbers wise this season anyways.

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

Down with Big Brother!

by patriotguy2 on Aug 15, 2010 3:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Was he a free agent?

We could have used holt. But for this year, Tate is healthy. And I like Tate a lot more. Not trying to downplay Holt, but he really didnt spark anything for me at the camps.

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

Down with Big Brother!

by patriotguy2 on Aug 15, 2010 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

no, I was just saying the timing was off

This year the Pats are good at WR with plenty of options

Keep the faith!

by Marima on Aug 15, 2010 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

i always saw holt as one year

given the amount of talent at receivers but i’d like to see him get his one year with patriots anyway if he can be fit in. Moss may not be back if he wants really big bucks.

Given camp reports, I always expected Farnham to be put on practice squad when he was cut if another team didn’t snatch him up.

by prioris on Aug 15, 2010 3:38 PM EDT reply actions  

good move by BB

Instead of releasing him or waiving him…he put him on IR…so he gets his full salary and he is also there for leadership value for the young WR corp…..i think this is a better move

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by NinjaZX6R on Aug 15, 2010 4:05 PM EDT reply actions  

I read...

…Holt will undergo a surgery.

by frogfromthemud on Aug 15, 2010 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

This.

Holt was brought on for leadership purposes and, since Edelman seems like he’s a solid #3 and Price and Tate are solid as well, there’s no real need for Holt as a receiver.

by Richard Hill on Aug 15, 2010 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

thanks

what do didn’t like my bike? lol…you know what the new pic is right?

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by NinjaZX6R on Aug 15, 2010 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

No... couldn't find it

but I’m really curious

Keep the faith!

by Marima on Aug 15, 2010 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

its the army insignia rank of a E-4 specialist

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by NinjaZX6R on Aug 16, 2010 1:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

How’s your move going?

Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.

by Comedic.Sans on Aug 16, 2010 1:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

all done

took 3 days…its 15 miles away from campus but its a really nice bigger apt in a great neighborhood …plus its $150 cheaper..only drawback…commuting to campus will be annoying

btw did you watch the preseason game? if you need the tv link for the reg. season games..ask me.
when the reg season starts i need to find more reliable sites where i dont get lagged out during game day

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by NinjaZX6R on Aug 16, 2010 4:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

No, I missed it, sadly

although I caught the better Pats plays as they were in those “and in the other game” segments during the Panthers-Ravens game, with the exception of McCourty’s kick returns.

Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.

by Comedic.Sans on Aug 16, 2010 5:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Bummed about Holt..

   ..thought he was a solid possession guy, great route runner, professional vet, who Brady would really like. But, the good news is we have one of the deeper receiver corps we’ve had in awhile, with a youth infusion, so hopefully we wont miss Holt. i wish him the best.
   This could keep a roster spot open for Aiken.

by furiousd on Aug 15, 2010 6:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Mankins

We need a solid front line to protect Brady. Don’t you all think that signing Mankins should be a priority?

by bigeasy8 on Aug 15, 2010 6:53 PM EDT reply actions  

NO

It is Mankins move.

Mankins could sign a one year cont4ract for 6 to 7 million, play hard one year and move on.

I have no problem Mankins making 8 million but he’s not going to be able to make that with Pats.

He should know that. You wonder why he even bothered negotiating if he wanted the max.

He has banked 10 million after taxes so far … if he can’t play at some slight discount to his ego then bye bye

Patriots are thin at OL without Kaczur … they will just have to deal with it

Maybe Brady will throw Kraft a million from his contract to get Mankins signed … that is only hope i see

by prioris on Aug 15, 2010 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jets will play hardball with Revis too

I would have liked to see Revis play against Patriots

Maybe if Patriots clobber Jets, they might relent

Then if Patriots clobber Jets again, they will regret

by prioris on Aug 15, 2010 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah but thats a little different

If he wants 7 or 8 mil, thats not unreasonable. Revis wants almost 17 million which is crazy. But I do not know the ins and outs of the Mankins dispute.

Since the face been revealed the game got real

by BL3ACH on Aug 15, 2010 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

revis probably has at least twice the effect on the field that mankins has

it is also not unreasonable for almost every other player to get an increase because a case can probably be made for why they are underpaid. where do you draw the line.

what is one solution : triple the cap then triple every players salary then mankins will make 21 million a year but wait …. mankins will still be underpaid because evans is getting more than him so he will still be furious.

mankins wants the MAX … he wants to be king of the hill … his ego demands it.

i think he could have gotten it up to 7.25 million if he had been nicer

by prioris on Aug 15, 2010 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh well then yeah it is more like the Revis situation then I thought

Revis was quote saying he wants at least a dollar more then any other CB in the league. Now if thats not ego then I don’t know what is.

Since the face been revealed the game got real

by BL3ACH on Aug 15, 2010 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

To be fair to Revis...

the Jets organisation said they thought he ought to be the top-paid CB. Really, really dumb on their part…

Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.

by Comedic.Sans on Aug 16, 2010 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nah I don't think they said that

they said they will open his contract up, I thought that for awhile to. Knowing that NA in Oakland is getting like 16.5 mil it makes no sense for them to say that bacause they would have to top that.
It didn’t help Rex saying he is the best CB and defensive MVP of the league thats for sure

Since the face been revealed the game got real

by BL3ACH on Aug 16, 2010 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

The way I saw it reported...

was that Rex Ryan said he was the best CB and defensive MVP in the game, and someone from the organisation said he should be paid like it, as well. Not at the same time, and not in quite the same context, but loud enough Revis and his agent heard (and agreed).

Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.

by Comedic.Sans on Aug 16, 2010 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thou shalt be punished for foolish offseason sayings?

My kingdom for a spellchecker. Or Devin Harris. Hopefully both.
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Aug 17, 2010 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

No

They made a decent offer to him. Like all other players that have tried to force their hands the Pats are just not going to give huge contracts and handcuff the team for the future. Look at all the other players that tried the same thing ( Maloy,Law,Givens,ect ect) and went on to just be fair players in other systems. He’s just a lineman and although a damn good one they won’t break the bank for him.

by Razorsedge112211 on Aug 16, 2010 1:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes and no

They offered him top five money for a guard — in other words, a huge contract for his position — because he’s a top five guard. The problem is that he wants top one money when he isn’t a top one guard.

Maybe someone else would give him $9M/year, but as much as the Pats could use him, he plays the easiest position on the field to find an effective replacement. And while you could still respect his desire to hold out for more money if that’s all he was doing, he blew it when he said $7M/year was insulting, and now with this nonsense from his agent.

by RSNexile on Aug 16, 2010 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can't believe Holt got hurt...

I was intrested to see what he could do with a good QB this year.

Since the face been revealed the game got real

by BL3ACH on Aug 15, 2010 10:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Holt

I didn’t think he would make the team anyway. Given the spots available and the number of great new talent the team has on the field now it would be tough to keep anyone that isn’t going to be a solid contributer to the club. Yes I drank the coolaid long ago. Go Pats!

by Razorsedge112211 on Aug 16, 2010 1:44 AM EDT reply actions  

I'd like to know how long Holt's been carrying the injury

He wasn’t showing out in training camp and all that, but if he’s been hurt for a while, that could well be why. Hopefully it’s not career ending, it’d be a horrible end to a fantastic career.

Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.

by Comedic.Sans on Aug 16, 2010 2:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Game ball for Gronkowski

Gronkowski is a fierce, relentless blocker. He was amazing in the Saints game.

If you watch the BJGE touchdown run in the 1st qtr, you will see Gronk simply man handle and snow plow a Saint’s LB in the middle of the defensive backfield. BJGE ran right off Gronk’s rear hip. Watch almost every solid running play and Gronk #87 will be part of the highlight and a big part of the success with his blocking. AND, he stays with his block until the whistle.

He is going to be a phenominal TE given that he is a fantastic receiver as well.

Adding Hernandez and Crumpler gives the PATS the best TE trio bar none. This group will be huge in their ability to move the chains as blockers and as receivers.

PATS looked impressive in the 1st qtr.

by couchpotato on Aug 16, 2010 8:33 AM EDT reply actions  

Gronk, Crump & 'Dez

That is a pretty nice set.

Watch for plays that get the ball into Welker/Edelman’s hands as they run across just underneath Crumpler running downfield. That will mimic some of way Atlanta used Crumpler’s excellent downfield blocking to spring Vick for big runs. The same should result in big plays for those two guys.

by mmmmm on Aug 16, 2010 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I liked how the TE passes to 'Dez were short

dump offs in the slot and across the line of scrimmage. I really hope that the PATS use the short pass to the TE and the RB in the flat more this season. Those little 4 and 5 yard gains have a lot of value. I think they will open up the long gains by slowing down the pass rush, occupying the LB’s in coverage, drawing the safeties in a bit further, and wearing down the defense: mentally as much as physically.

The TE is the key this season. If Brady and O’Brien can maximize the TE position, this offense will be unstoppable. I think the points and time of possession could be hugely important in helping the PAT’s younger defense gain confidence by facing more one dimensional offenses who are always playing catch-up.

by couchpotato on Aug 17, 2010 9:31 AM EDT reply actions  

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