A Patriots Fans' Review of Jets Hard Knocks Episode 2: The Fattening
If you're in anyway feeling a little bit worried about the New York Jets I highly recommend you check out the epic second episode that culminates in Rex Ryan calling out his second team defense. It will put your nerves to rest.
The Jets new image has been carefully crafted by Rex Ryan from the start to be the big scary bully who's gonna beat you down and laugh while he's doing it. The entire NFL universe has collectively fallen for it. Pundits are picking them to win the AFC and even the Super Bowl, but as we get a better look inside the inner workings of this football franchise you see the cracks in their projected image.
I was left after this episode thinking I will be surprised if they beat the Patriots once this year. And I don't think either game will be close.
Episode one was just a small glimpse, my review of episode two after the jump...
Yesterday you heard Tom Brady talk about why he's so intense on every snap of practice. Tonight we saw Mark Sanchez talk about how much he loves orange candies, or get annoyed for having to pay an extra 59 cents for ranch sauce with his pizza, or most telling, act like a guilty fifth grader every time he gets constructive criticism.
And it's not just Sanchez, who seems like your average immature football dick, it's the whole team who leaves you feeling like this whole big mystery that is the 2010 New York Jets really could be combustible.
As my Patriots Princess said "it's like the whole team is just f'ing around," as she watched Kris Jenkins laughing his ass off as he drove by slo-mo in a golf cart.
And it wasn't just the day their punter had a hundred Shake Weights arrive at camp. Let me tell you, there's nothing more entertaining than watching LT2 look like he's giving himself a pearl necklace, front and back.
The show opened with the sentiment that practices have not been going well. Sanchez has struggled. Marty Schottenheimer called him sloppy. Even more telling was Marty's quote about second year quarterbacks.
"If you can get them back to the same level, you made progress".
Sanchez clearly wanted to get working on matching those 20 interceptions of 2009 by throwing one with his first pass of the preseason. Luckily Mark Brunell was there to remind him the games don't count yet.
Someone else whose head is spinning is Joe McKnight's. Joe is lost in a sea of confusion and it doesn't look like he's ever going to find shore. What is it with USC guys not being able to take criticism? Oh right, Pete Carroll.
Santonio Holmes implored Joe to ask the veterans for help, a good move by a Super Bowl winner who was acting like a one of the few real leaders there. But as the game results would confirm, McKnight is struggling. If Shonn Greene goes down for any length of time this team's "vaunted" running attack will be in trouble.
While Kyle Wilson is looking solid, Antonio Cromartie is having trouble just keeping track of his eight kids, five of whom are three. 2007 wasn't just a good year on the field for Al-Cro-traz.
The Jets coaches are begging Cromartie to play with an edge more consistently. But what can you do, some guys are just too scared to go down a water slide (finally his "wife" pushed him down it).
In Vernon Gholston news, the coaching staff decided to orchestrate a fight to try and bring the animal out in Big Vern. It was marginally succesful. Despite Rex Ryan's proclamations it looks like Gholston is still just barely making progress. I should point out that he took a voluntary contract reduction this year, which you have to respect. Unfortunately for Vern he might really need that money in about six months.
Everyone continues to call John Conner "The Terminator", which I've kind of accepted because you know at some point in the butchering of that once proud franchise they'll have one where John Conner actually is a Terminator. Whatever you call him he looks like a load, and I look forward to seeing Brandon Spikes and Jerod Mayo take him on.
Overall it's hard not to feel that no matter how much of it is editing, the loosie goosie moments that are happening at Jets camp are not happening anywhere near Patriots camp. To my biased eyes the Patriots look like a team of men, locked in on football. The Jets look caught up in their own hype. And someone better tell Rex if he doesn't stop jamming the handfuls of M&Ms down his gullet his lapband's going to need a lapband.
I already can't wait for episode three, my predicted "Return of Revis" episode. We'll see..
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Gotta love
preseason hype :) and especially when it is far away from patriots camp : )
Spokane WA only 2,266 miles from Foxboro MA
You know you're in trouble...
when Santonio Holmes and a Schottenheimer are the voices of reason and wisdom respectively in a football camp.
Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.
by Comedic.Sans on Aug 19, 2010 2:51 AM EDT reply actions 6 recs
Cromartie didn't have a good 2007 season?
I hope that was sarcasm. He only returned a kick for the longest return in NFL History (against the Vikes, 109 yards), picked off Peyton Manning three times in a single game, and recorded 10 INTs.
I wish Samuel had recorded 10 INTs in a season…
My kingdom for a spellchecker. Or Devin Harris. Hopefully both.
"Right, a ball of hot flaming gas that collapses upon itself." -Doctor Sheldon Cooper from The Big Bang Theory
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Aug 19, 2010 2:59 AM EDT reply actions
He never said that.
He just implied it was a good year…elsewhere too.
USG
by Ben Buchanan on Aug 19, 2010 5:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Asante Samuel DID record 10 Interceptions in a season - 2006
He also picked off 9 in 2009. However, he was absolutely abominable in that other important defensive trait – making tackles. Football Outsiders charted Asante Samuel as the fourth worst CB in the entire league in allowing yards after catch – he gave up 5.6 YAC per reception and in the bottom 20% of starting CBs in allowing total yards per pass play (8.2 yards per pass).
Jumping routes to get picks means exactly squat if you get burned for a TD or long reception every other time you try it. I’d rather have a Leigh Bodden who ‘only’ gets 5 picks but makes all his tackles.
As a comparison, Leigh Bodden was ranked by Football Outsiders as a top-10 CB – he was 4th best in giving up yards-per-pass play (5.2 yards per pass) and 1st (yes, first!) in shutting down yards-after-catch (1.7 yac). Bodden didn’t give up yards in the air, and he certainly didn’t give up yards when the receiver caught it.
The real point is that interceptions aren’t the best way to compare CBs – they factor in, of course, but tackling rates and how often CBs gave up yardage both before and after the catch are at least as important in terms of actually winning. This is the reason the Pats did all they could to re-sign Leigh Bodden, whereas Asante Samuel was voted to the Pro Bowl yet was trade-bait in the offseason. The Eagles actually wanted to get rid of Samuel despite his 9 interceptions because he was such a liability.
Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.
by Comedic.Sans on Aug 19, 2010 6:50 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
This is a very good post
I didn’t see the Hard Knocks bit but in general Ints are often times either achieve through luck or due to the fact you ARE not a great corner.
IE this year Cromartie could get a lot of picks, because he is not Revis and the ball will go his way a lot more. This also means if he gambles, he could give up a lot of plays/yards/etc.
Bodden's been able to hold his own against Chad Johnson
Hopefully he can do the same in Week 1…
My kingdom for a spellchecker. Or Devin Harris. Hopefully both.
"Right, a ball of hot flaming gas that collapses upon itself." -Doctor Sheldon Cooper from The Big Bang Theory
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Aug 19, 2010 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions
use the reg download
Non Sibi Sed Patriae.
I love my ZX-6r Kawasaki.
I bleed Scarlet and Grey...A Buckeye for Life
how come
just wondering bc on gameday since i and a few others live outside the NE area…i usually post the links for a live feed….just wondering if that was ok?
Non Sibi Sed Patriae.
I love my ZX-6r Kawasaki.
I bleed Scarlet and Grey...A Buckeye for Life
Tell me if you need any sites.
I’m good at finding them. :)
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
Down with Big Brother!
my take
1) for the intro about the old stadium…what no mention of the 16-0 record achieved @ that stadium?
2)…Looked like Woody was humping the grass during stretching
3) Joe McKnight….damn you…couldn’t you have sucked last yr around Sept 12th 2009 after 8pm…well i hope you suck
4) When did Holmes become a leader? (yes i know i’m taking a shot @ one of my own)…..people who agree w. me…plz rec Comedic Sans comment up top
5) What the hell is a cross dog….i assume its a a blitz that crosses each other when they attack the line of scrimmage right?
6) LMAO @ Bart Scott comment about Joe McKnight taking a pay cut after attending USC and turning pro
7) Dont know what the heck Sanchize was doing w. that red thing on his hands and legs and hopping around w. a towel on his head…no fkin clue
8) Jets players are now friends w. Mike Burnell….didn’t some of them not want him on the team after he filed chapter 11?? and 5 bucks says Sanchez will be hooking up w. Mike’s daughter
9) Have to agree w. Mike about Sanchez sometimes acting like a 5th grader
10) Hey Crow can you remember all the names of your 8 kids- http://sensationizer.blogspot.com/2010/08/antonio-cromartie-got-eight-kids-and.html
Next time Crow…remember…a condom says you a LOT of money when it comes to child support…and i hope you are supporting all your kids instead of the US government and the States where your kids live
11) LT..i hope the next time you go up and over the goaline…Brandon Spikes will be waiting for you w. his fingers.
12) def have respect for the Jets special teams coach…the only one i respect…made me laugh when he made fun of Michigan football.
13) Watch…the Jets will be SB champs bc Steve Weatherford bought the entire team Shake Weights
14) again taking a shot at fellow buckeye but Ghloston taking about SB…dude…get a sack but not against the Pats
15) Sexy Rex goes to the movies and gets a small bag of popcorn…WHATTTTTTTT
16) John Conner has no neck…McKenize has no neck…i want to see McK take on Conner
17) Sanchez at the first huddle…lets start off strong….boy that was an epic fail. He also states " we can’t shoot ourselves"….well said
18) rex " Our backups are playing like shit"…well i hope they do for the entire season
19) And next week we can watch Sanchez being a bigger tool…cant wait
Non Sibi Sed Patriae.
I love my ZX-6r Kawasaki.
I bleed Scarlet and Grey...A Buckeye for Life
by NinjaZX6R on Aug 19, 2010 6:53 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Great points
Cromartie naming his kids on his fingers and figuring out their ages… sobering moment.
Rex on the performance of his backups – do they watch this show? Jets have the best defense in the world… except for you guys that stink.
Sanchez ragging on the way that linebacker was walking – he had a point, lol.
Can’t wait to watch Spikes turn LdT’s up and over move into a down and under.
Keep the faith!
i've seen the cowboys, bengals, chiefs hard knocks
and i’ve never seen an immature player till sanchez…can’t wait for him to throw 3+ ints in week 2
Non Sibi Sed Patriae.
I love my ZX-6r Kawasaki.
I bleed Scarlet and Grey...A Buckeye for Life
Schottenheimer Sr. even said to Jr.
If you can get a 2nd year QB to perform at the same level he did as a rookie, that’s an improvement. I’ll take a repeat of Sanchez rookie year, thank you very much, especially how he played against the Pats.
Keep the faith!
i laughed when he said that comment
Non Sibi Sed Patriae.
I love my ZX-6r Kawasaki.
I bleed Scarlet and Grey...A Buckeye for Life
McKnight didn't do too well...
Sort of like how he did against ’Zona.
He exhausted his big play potential against Ohio State…
My kingdom for a spellchecker. Or Devin Harris. Hopefully both.
"Right, a ball of hot flaming gas that collapses upon itself." -Doctor Sheldon Cooper from The Big Bang Theory
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Aug 20, 2010 3:56 AM EDT up reply actions
he sucked in that game in 2009
and then had 2 big 3rd down recp that led to 1st downs…i hate him
Non Sibi Sed Patriae.
I love my ZX-6r Kawasaki.
I bleed Scarlet and Grey...A Buckeye for Life
There's only ONE honorable USC running back
Marcus Allen.
My kingdom for a spellchecker. Or Devin Harris. Hopefully both.
"Right, a ball of hot flaming gas that collapses upon itself." -Doctor Sheldon Cooper from The Big Bang Theory
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Aug 20, 2010 4:18 AM EDT up reply actions
To fuel the vitriol
here’s Mark Sanchez and Joe McKnight highlights…
My kingdom for a spellchecker. Or Devin Harris. Hopefully both.
"Right, a ball of hot flaming gas that collapses upon itself." -Doctor Sheldon Cooper from The Big Bang Theory
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Aug 20, 2010 4:37 AM EDT up reply actions
The third poll option is clearly the correct one.
Oh, if a man tried to take his time on earth, and prove before he died
What one man's life could be worth--oh, I wonder what would happen to this world.
by LegendaryTadpole on Aug 19, 2010 11:16 AM EDT reply actions
Did you see Rexy...
attack that bag of M&Ms? He’s stretching his lapband out for sure.
by MikeDussault on Aug 19, 2010 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions
In other news - Wilfork at QB. Where is this video?
Anyone else read about the O plays D and the D plays O game the Pats did recently. Vince apparently was throwing some terrific balls out there.
I really would love to see that.
They're keeping that video hidden...
Don’t want anyone getting a sneak peek at the FatCat before they unleash it.
by MikeDussault on Aug 19, 2010 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
LMFAO
FatCat for the win!!!!
Spokane WA only 2,266 miles from Foxboro MA
Classic. +1
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The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.
by SlotMachinePlayer on Aug 19, 2010 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Rex has spent so much time telling his players how great they are
that he’s effectively undercut his ability to criticize them. He’s bloviates about how they are the toughest, best bunch of players ever assembled, leaving his players believing that they’ve already got the Lombardi trophy in the bag. So when the coaches start saying things like “You need to watch more film” or “You need to work on your basic tackling technique,” it doesn’t make much sense. You’ve already told me I’m the greatest thing since the spread offense, so why would I need to work any harder?
Rex has singlehandedly set this team up for massive disappointment.
by nbradley07 on Aug 19, 2010 1:23 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Very good point
The hallmark of BB is that “it was good, could’ve been better”. Whatever BB sees as their weakness on D (IMO it will be Edelman/Hernandez/Gronk/Tate exploiting their coverage LBs and nickle/dime cbs) he’ll exploit it. Clearly they have depth issues on both sides of the ball. This is what happens when you only take 2-3 players per draft.
by MikeDussault on Aug 19, 2010 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions
The Jets do provide some great entertainment...
i’m not exactly worried about them- but I don’t think Belicheck should expect to sweep the division. let’s face it: we’re not the only team in the division now. the dolphins and jets both had decent records )the jets actually broke a .500). so even though we’ll win the east again (as always) i think we’ll lost one to the jets and sweep the fins and bills.

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