5 From Camp: Patriots Training Camp Practice 9
by Greg Knopping on Aug 2, 2010 1:01 PM EDT
in Training Camp
Email
PrintFive notes and thoughts from the Patriots' ninth training camp practice:
- The team toned it down a bit during practice. There wasn't as much team work, but there were a few more individual drills. The players were in full pads, however.
- With Gary Guyton out of practice, we saw the Jerod Mayo/Brandon Spikes combination get some work. It appears for now that Spikes may be ahead of Tyrone McKenzie on the depth chart for now, but McKenzie has looked quite good. Also, in a slightly unrelated note, outside linebacker Jermaine Cunningham continues to line up with the first team defense.
- The Patriots signed tight end Carson Butler and receiver Rod Owens this morning to bring their roster max up to 80 players. Both players made their debuts today, with Butler donning number 86, and Owens number 15.
- The players not in attendance due to injury were Matthew Slater, Bret Lockett, Gary Guyton, Nick Kaczur, and Ty Warren were not at practice.
- The Patriots ended practice with their usual mud slide tradition. The "drill" serves as a valuable "training technique" as Matt Light calls it. Tom Brady sprayed down the rookies, and Kade Weston was the first one to go sliding, followed by Devin McCourty, Brandon Spikes, and the rest of the rookie class. Even first year coach Corwin Brown and second year man Tyrone McKenzie (who was injured the first time around) got in on the action. Brandon Tate was sure to lay low.
The Patriots will conclude day five of training camp with an in-stadium practice at Gillette Stadium. As Bill Belichick explained, it should get the kickers and some of the young guys used to playing on the field's turf before the Patriots kick off their preseason against the Saints in 10 days.
36 comments
|
1 recs |
Do you like this story?
Comments
i can not wait
even for the first preseason game !!!!!!!
Not sure why but i don’t think i’ve ever looked forward to a pre season as much as this. Maybe it’s because i’m a Gator fan too, can’t wait to see Spikes, Hernandez and Cunningham in a Pats jersey.
GO PATS!!!!!!!!!
There's also 20+ young guys to try out this year
In recent years, there haven’t been anywhere near as many rookies and second-year players, so preseason games have been about using 3rd string nobody free-agent pickups. This year it’s about blooding the promising young guys, which is a lot more interesting.
Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.
First pre-season game: 6 days
Pats first pre-season game: 10 days
So close So close So close.
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
Down with Big Brother!
I can't believe we're almost there... anyone else buying the NFL Preseason Pass for $40?
It’s expensive, but I live in CT, so even though I should get the games, I don’t.
mud slide
I gotta wonder – would this be the kind of activity Dez Bryant would decline to take part in?
‘Love that Coach Brown and McKenzie didn’t duck it.
Jets and Reavens have problems
Darelle Revis is holdout. Jet fans are sickened by this. Revis wants 15 to 20 million. After unproven Joe Haden signing for 10 million a year , they’ll have to pay it. Revis can make case for 20 million.
If I were Jets fan, I’d say good bye to Revis .
Ravens key CB’s Foxborough (sp?) went out for season. They’ll have to wait for Ed Reed.
Paying PROVEN Tom Brady or Peyton Manning 20 to 25 million will be pretty easy.
Only a proven elite QB is worth the really huge bucks.
If the Jets do finally sign Revis, I wonder how they will be able to shutdown Moss, Welker/Edelman, Tate/Holt, Hernandez and Gronkowski/Crumpler at same time.
thanks ... correction
If the Jets do finally sign Revis, I wonder how they will be able to shutdown Moss, Welker/Edelman, Tate/Holt/Price, Hernandez and Gronkowski/Crumpler at same time.
also consider ...
All the additional elite receivers in AFL East and even Cincinnati and Ravens.
it’s going to be tough for CB’s in general.
Imagine if this causes cracks in the armor for the Jets defense.
For me, it’s all about dividing up the money among 53 roster people to make a winning team.
Revis or even Brady can’t win a super bowl unless they have sufficient amount of talent around them.
The Jets should take care of their other players way before Revis.
i dont know i kind of disagree
i think they should take care of revis he is the best cb in the game today. but i gree he shouldnt get starting qb money and u gotta keep it in perspective for the 53 man roster but revis is worht some dough.
whose better will be a debate that will never get settled
until they switch teams
so i just say – they are both extraordinary – and leave it at that
raiders and jets have completely different defense set up
again i disagree
i think revis is better and is getting paid 1 million this year? he is worth way more then that and in the nfl his next snap could be his last so i can see revis asking to redo his contract. i also see the jets side of the deal and say hey we didnt force u to sign that rookie contract its a double edged sword.
no
>i think revis is better and is getting paid 1 million this year?
this is the new school of calculation
mankins played the same game of hypocrisy with that – a man’s word is his bond – crap
the old school says
TOTAL AMT DVIDED BY YEARS ON CONTRACT
any other figure is just plain misrepresentation
revis got money up front in previous years
i believe he is getting 14 million for his last 2 years on contract
as far as his next snap being his last ...
this is absurd with the ones who have had their pay day
revis had his pay day
if the any football player has 5 million in bank account, he should be set for life
those kind of pleas fall on deaf ears with me
if they can’t live on that much, they should be declared mentally incompetent and shouldn’t be given any more money
i really dont care about the money anymore
there is nothing u can do about it either the owners make a ton of money or the players do its all out of hand in any sport really.
it's not about how much as much as ...
about how you divide up the cap money
at any rate, Revis (and Mankins) are being absolutely stupid about this.
There is a very high probability of some sort of stoppage in 2011.
By holding out this year, then if there is a stoppage next year – that’s TWO FREAKIN’ YEARS they could go without getting paid.
All for the sake of bragging rights on the ‘who gets paid the most’ chart.
Stupid.
mankins ...
will actually screw himself financially by holding out
it will take him over 5 years to recoup lost year at 8 million vs 7 million
revis is on more solid ground than mankins
the guy making 8 million was a 4th round draft pick who never had a pay day while mankins did being a high 1st round draft pick
looking at the nba … many players are taking less money to play for championship team because the reality is that there isn’t enough cap money to give all the superstars the max
mankins should play for buffalo or cleveland to learn the big picture … to add 2.5 more million in bank account is just not worth it … his ego has clouded his thinking
maybe tom brady will throw some of his money over to keep mankins … that’s the way i see this being resolved
Asomugha has been the BEST corner in the league, playing with a very "unbalanced" raider defense.
Revis has arguably THE BEST front seven in the nfl on the defensive side. If both were to switch teams, I would think that asomugha would play at his elite level, and revis will not play as well as he was on the jets.
don’t let stats fool you. teams don’t ever throw to asomugha. and when they do, they rarely come out with a play. Teams threw to revis MUCH more often.
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
Down with Big Brother!
that's the amazing thing about asomugha
That statistic says that QB’s fear Asomugha much more than Revis.
Another better barometer would be to poll the starting CB’s in the NFL and let them decide except they can’t vote for someone on their team. Since they play and know the position, they ought to be able to have a fair verdict.
asomugha is also a MUCH better tackler than revis.
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
Down with Big Brother!
i personally think asomunga (sp)
is overrated a bit. first he is good very good but he has no one else on defense to help him so i think he turned a great season into the hype that he is the best. i mean if all the other members of the secondary are terrible why would throw at the 1 good one. not to mention the raiders horrible run defense why pass at all when u can just run over that terrible front 7. so again his numbers get skewered up. now if you are rating him as a human being not many are better he is awesome giving and extremely smart person. but as a cb revis is the better cb by a good margin.
I think you make some good points
the Raider’s rushing defense was pretty piss-poor.
I think that partly just meant once teams were up, they could just run the ball down the Raiders throats to chew the clock out.
Opposing teams did throw less on the Raiders (27.4 pass attempts per game) than against the Jets (31.3 PA/G) . (League avg was 33.3).
It is true that that the rest of the Raider’s secondary was a significant drop off from asomougha, as reflected by the relatively high net-yds per attempt against the raiders (7.0). That latter number would, you would think, motivate teams to throw more against them last year. Yes, the per-attempt rushing yds were bad too, but that passing number is really bad. Especially since, on passing plays, they never threw to Asomougha’s area – you’d think his teammates would be extra pumped knowing it was coming their way. And by not throwing to his area (deep), the majority of those have to be short passes underneath – yet still they averaged 7 yds per attempt! Lousy tackling, I guess.
yep. Morrison was not a very good tackler. He usually tackles them around 5 yards after the catch(pathetic).
But that’s only when they pass over the middle. Chris Johnson is a pretty good tackler, and our safeties are GOOD tacklers, as well as Thomas Howard. But the reason they are able to get about 7 yards per attempt was because:
A) Chris Johnson is a pretty easy corner to pick on. Think of a taller Ellis Hobbs.
B) Dumping it off to a RB, so Morrison tackles him maybe after 5-7 yards past the line of scrimmage. Also accounts for the fact that we were poor in run defense, so passing it off to a RB(like the chargers with sproles) was a great game plan against us last year.
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
Down with Big Brother!
well ...
there is no reason to throw on revis side if he is a shutdown cb
why did they need to bring in cromartie
Rex Ryan wants a broken defense. His defense is like food to him. He wants more and more(don't think that makes sense. Don't Judge Me!).
Also Lito Sheppard was not very good at all.
Revis I think is the second best corner. he has such a great defense around him, particularly the front seven, is unbelievable.
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
Down with Big Brother!
To cover multiple-WR sets
Just think about facing the Pats twice (maybe three times) a year – you have to cover Moss, Welker, Edelman, Tate, Holt, Price and Hernandez in the slot. Two CBs won’t cut it – the third and fourth WRs are going to be good enough to beat out roster-filler CBs for big yardage. You need several starting-quality guys just for nickel packages.
Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.
umm cause u still need more then 1 cb
revis is hands down the best cb in the league. and they got the dead beat dad for nothin so it was worth the shot.
???
i mean if all the other members of the secondary are terrible why would throw at the 1 good one.
The raiders secondary is not terrible at all, but regardless, they don’t throw it at asomugha. We are top 10 in passing defense for a reason. Branch and huff are solid safeties(mostly branch though), and Chris Johnson is a pretty good corner.
Getting that out of the way, Teams DON’T PASS IT TO ASOMUGHA!!! They usually pass it to Chris Johnson, which is why teams pass it. Because Chris Johnson is okay. So they pick on Chris Johnson, and not Asomugha.
not to mention the raiders horrible run defense why pass at all when u can just run over that terrible front 7
They don’t pass it that often. If anyone does, it’s rivers. But usually the opponent tries to run against us, and do it successfully. How many times do teams try and pass it against the jets? Probably MORE times than the raiders, because the jets actually HAVE a great run defense, and a GREAT defense overall that’s better than oakland.
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
Down with Big Brother!
Asomugha was impressive in the Pro Bowl
He was lined up against Pro Bowl quality receivers, and Pro Bowl tradition means CBs aren’t allowed to play press-coverage (which is what he’s good at, given he’s 6’2 and solid), yet he was surprisingly effective in making a few pass breakups and getting good coverage on this man.
Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.
At $20M per year, he wants/expects starting QB money.
Brady’s contract had him at about $7-10M per year over the course of the deal. Is Revis worth 2-3 Brady’s? Not so much…
Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.
Comments For This Post Are Closed
Secondary Sidebar
User Tools
Media requests: Please email patspulpit at gmail.com
FanPosts
Community blog posts and discussion.
Certain photos copyright © 2012 by Associated Press or Getty Images. Any commercial use or distribution without the express written consent of Associated Press and Getty Images is strictly prohibited.
