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2010 Patriots NFL Predictions: Surprise Camp Cut

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Every year it happens.  Bill Belichick pulls the rug out from at least one unsuspecting veteran.  Sometimes, it is a recent pickup (case and point: Fernando Bryant).  Other times, it can be a veteran that has been on the team for years (case and point: Lawyer Milloy).  With at least one veteran count bound to be a surprise, we continue our Patriots prediction series by looking at one possible veteran player who could get the boot come late August/early September.

Richard Hill: GERARD WARREN, DL

Warren isn't a veteran on the team, but he's been a well-known FA pick-up. I think he can make the team, but I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't. With a young player like Ron Brace already on the roster, an old player like Warren, with nearly the same skill set as Brace, looks to be the guy to get cut. I think most people are expecting Damione Lewis to be the cut player, so that's why I'll go with my surprise as Gerard Warren.

Stephen Verman: PIERRE WOODS, OLB

Woods has been a great special teams player and contributed now and then to the defense, but with so many young players on the roster, the Patriots are running out of room for special teams-only players. For a brief time Woods looked like he might break out and become a viable starting option, but it never happened. The Patriots gave a chance to Woods as an undrafted player in 2006, and they will be happy with his service. If cut, I hope he finds a spot on another roster.

Marima: TERRENCE WHEATLEY, CB

David Patten doesn't really qualify as a surprise since he'll turn 36 in August, the Pats only just picked him up in February and right now the roster looks fairly stacked at wide receiver. So, if a third-year, barely-used player counts as a veteran, then Wheatley is the next man down. Since being drafted in the second round in 2008, Wheatley's contributions amount to playing in only 11 games with three tackles and two passes defended. The surprise is that such a high draft pick (62 overall) hasn't been able to produce due to injury or coaching choice.

Comedic.Sans: JAMES SANDERS, S

More of a surprise camp trade - James Sanders. He probably projects as a mere backup, if Chung and Meriweather truly live up to expectations with their respective high draft positions. McGowan has his set TE-eater role, so Sanders might well be struggling to get snaps, which is a waste of a talented player and good leader (and guy who's being paid starter money, which is always a consideration). He might be traded to a Safety-hungry team, and there are a few around.

Mike Dussault: BRANDON McGOWAN, S

Brandon McGowan. McGowan started off like gang busters in 2009 only to see his time significantly reduced after the back-to-back losses to the Saints and Dolphins in favor of James Sanders' steadying presence. With the addition of special teams stud Devin McCourty, as well as the projected emergence of Patrick Chung, McGowan could be too much of a one trick pony to stick on. The good news is that he's a fairly solid depth player should injuries hit the safety group. Having four good safeties is a luxury at the start of camp, but it could be a surplus by the end.

Greg Knopping: DAMIONE LEWIS, DT

When the Patriots picked up Damione Lewis earlier in the offseason, I think a lot of people expected him to be a lock for a roster spot.  Best case scenario, he could start at defensive end and be a force on the inside in sub-packages.  But when the Patriots picked up Gerard Warren, it looked as if only one of the two veteran defensive tackles would make the roster.  I think Warren will end up making the roster because of his mammoth size (6-4, 325), strength, leadership qualities/experience, and versatility.  He can play nose or end in the 3-4, as well as defensive tackle in four man sub-packages.  I also believe that the emergence of Myron Pryor will serve to make Damione Lewis expendable.

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Poll
Who is the most likely camp cut?
Gerard Warren
40 votes
Damione Lewis
145 votes
Brandon McGowan
28 votes
James Sanders
46 votes
Terrence Wheatley
255 votes
Pierre Woods
81 votes

595 votes | Poll has closed

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I think Lewis is more likely to get cut than warren.

So far, warren has been on the 1st team unit more than lewis, and RE seems to be a position we need. We can’t rely on Brace to produce the same as warren, and if anything, I would rather have warren, and a younger version of warren in Brace, than Lewis.

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by patriotguy2 on Aug 2, 2010 4:06 PM EDT reply actions  

I almost voted Lewis

and then switched and voted for McGowan.

My thinking is that we can probably afford to cut depth at S more than on the DL. Further the fact that McGowan is basically a single-purpose tool is not a good thing. Hoodie has always favored swiss-army knife players over specialists.

But if it is not McGowan, then yeah, Lewis.

by mmmmm on Aug 2, 2010 4:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Well, McGowan was good on special teams

Can cover TE’s/good tackler. I don’t know if I like his toughness though.

by Greg Knopping on Aug 2, 2010 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

He is a great TE cover man.

I don’t htink BB will get rid of a guy like that. We need him against rising star Dustin Keller.

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by patriotguy2 on Aug 2, 2010 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

i picked sanders for the sole reason

he was the only one that would suprise me out of the choices we had. woods would suprise now due to crable/burgess not being here.

by brady12mvp3 on Aug 3, 2010 8:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Tory Holt

Is there a reason we haven’t heard anything about him?

by beantownboy171 on Aug 2, 2010 8:12 PM EDT reply actions  

I really like the guy, but haven't seen anything great from him

Patten looked better when he was out there, and you can’t overlook Taylor Price who has been getting lots of reps and looking pretty good.

Keep the faith!

by Marima on Aug 2, 2010 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

who is better in you op

Tate or Price

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by NinjaZX6R on Aug 2, 2010 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

meant to say ..in your opinion ...stupid me

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by NinjaZX6R on Aug 2, 2010 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

nah, I knew what you meant

They both have different styles, but I’ve seen Tate more with the return drills. Price just surprised me with his rookie energy I guess, and he was catching pretty much everything thrown to him. I’m going again this afternoon so I’ll try to define a little better what it is that’s different about them.

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by Marima on Aug 3, 2010 7:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

which one is a downfield threat

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by NinjaZX6R on Aug 3, 2010 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Both.

From videos that I’ve seen.

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by patriotguy2 on Aug 3, 2010 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know what their times are

but Tate looks a hair faster to my eye test.

But that said – I really like Price. He looks so strong in his upper body – he really attacks the ball and creates room to make the catch.

He just plain looks like a tough, smart ball player.

by mmmmm on Aug 3, 2010 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tate is the faster player, but in terms of running and adjusting routes, I think price might just edge him a bit.

Tate is also more elusive too.

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by patriotguy2 on Aug 3, 2010 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

watching Tate in return drills was cool

He and Edelman are both shifty and elusive.

Keep the faith!

by Marima on Aug 3, 2010 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yessiree.

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by patriotguy2 on Aug 3, 2010 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I give the definite edge to Tate

especially after today’s drills

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by Marima on Aug 3, 2010 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

They have different styles of downfield threats.

Most people associate a downfield threat with how much speed that player has. Speed is only one type of a downfield threat, which is the case with Tate.

The other type, is sort of a route runny, shifty, faking type, as with price. Like when welker runs a route in the middle, he fakes the cornerback like he’s going one direction, and he goes another. In Price’s case, when he’s going downfield, he exploits the secondary he sees, and makes a couple motions to get the safety or corner to bite a bit, THEN he gets by them. I hope it makes sense in a way.

Of course, both tate and price utilize both in a way, but tate uses more speed, and price uses more of the other one. In cases like Moss, he uses both VERY effectively, as well as Fitzgerald, and Andre Johnson.

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by patriotguy2 on Aug 3, 2010 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was wondering about that too...

I would have voted for him if he was on the list.

by DrJgopatsgators on Aug 2, 2010 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

With Patten retiring, Holt's chances improved a fair amount.

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by Comedic.Sans on Aug 2, 2010 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd opt for Wheatley to be released

since I favor keeping as many D-Lineman and safeties as possible. LB’s are right behind those two positions. The trenches are brutal over a long season. I like having sub packages in the trenches to reduce the inevitable injuries that occur to players. Safeties and LB’s are enormously important. I like having four safeties since Chung, to me, is still unproven. McGowen and Sanders have a resume with the PATS. Meriweather, like Mayo, is the foundation. LB’s are key players on special teams. Woods is well worth keeping since he can definitely play LB if needed.

Boden, Butler, Wilhite, and McCourtey is a solid four player rotation. Put Wheatley on speed dial.

by couchpotato on Aug 2, 2010 8:59 PM EDT reply actions  

what about releasing Wilhite

especially if Wheatley has more potential

by prioris on Aug 2, 2010 9:07 PM EDT reply actions  

I think he actually meant "surprise" release. lol

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by patriotguy2 on Aug 2, 2010 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

i would love that

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by NinjaZX6R on Aug 2, 2010 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would release RB Morris

he can be signed again if an injury occurs

by prioris on Aug 2, 2010 9:10 PM EDT reply actions  

You might be on more solid ground with releasing Morris

Taylor’s had one injury-plagued season recently; Morris has had 3 or 4 consecutive seasons with injuries. Taylor also shined as a runner last season when he was healthy; Morris was second- or third-choice at RB or FB at the best of times.

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by Comedic.Sans on Aug 3, 2010 2:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

well

yeah, that’s right

i’d release the oldest one

the idea is – a team is unlikely going to pick him up and they can be resigned during year if someone gets injured i think … it saves a roster spot although player still available off roster

it at least comes down to one of those two

by prioris on Aug 3, 2010 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

qualify that ...

any RB xcept faulk and malroney

by prioris on Aug 3, 2010 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

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