Everybody Back on the Patriots Bandwagon!
by MikeDussault on Aug 20, 2010 7:17 PM EDT
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PrintIf you're a Patriots fan you're probably feeling pretty good today. Your offense mauled the Falcons line without Logan Mankins, while your defense played text book Hoodie-style (at least the first team did). Now all of a sudden the Patriots are a dark horse to win the division that they've won seven of the last nine years. What?
Glad to see everyone else catching on to what we've known all off-season.
A bunch of Peter King-style Things I Think after the jump...
I think if all the running backs can stay healthy this year this could be the first ever four-headed monster backfield. I think everyone had to be at least a little surprised at how well Fred ran last night. They won't be throwing it to him, but that's okay, we have Kevin Faulk.
A pissed off Tom Brady + an in-shape and contract driven Randy Moss + Wes Welker week one = bad things for the rest of the NFL.
I really can't wait to see how Julian Edelman, Rob Gronkowski, Aaron Hernandez and Brandon Tate are used this year. We know what we're getting with Moss and Welker, but these new guys are going to be a whole new headache that most opposing fan bases have no clue about yet.
I thought Ron Brace was up and down last night. Everyone was ready to dub him the next Ty Warren off of one forced fumble, but he looked slow off the snap and got pushed back at times. He was okay at holding his ground others so there are some things to build off of. I'll give him the next two preseason games before I make any definitive judgement about him.
Can't say it enough, the tackling has been excellent in the two games so far. Patrick Chung, Brandon Spikes and Devin McCourty are stopping people dead in their tracks.
I'm not so sure about Marques Murrell as a starting OLB. He lost contain a couple times and was victimized in the passing game as well. Guessing it's Tully Banta-Cain and Derek Burgess as the OLB starters.
What you saw last night was the Belichick defense at it's finest. His will never be an all out attacking defense, one that is prone to get burned. It's read and react, be in position, and if they do make a completion tackle at the spot, preferably with some violence. It's a defense that forces you to consistently execute on offense, and one that will capitalize the second you make a mistake. It looks like Belichick taking more of a role with the defense is paying off.
Devin McCourty reminds me of a young Ty Law. Only faster. That jam at the line of scrimmage on third down was a veteran type play. I don't know which rookie I like best, nor do I know which will be the best.
I still have concerns about the d-line being able to dominate a line of scrimmage. However I think Brandon Spikes ability to blow guards back into the hole will be a huge help.
Just keep doing what you're doing, Dan Connolly.
This offense looks far better suited to play a ground-and-pound style. The smaller defenses that have been built to stop the spread offense will be in trouble when they face the Pats.
Don't you miss Ben Watson? Neither do I.
I'm still really pulling for Tyrone McKenzie, but the more I see him play the more I'm unsure if he's really a fit in this defense.
Need to keep a closer eye on Rob Ninkovich. Only thing I saw of him last night was when he got blasted by a block he didn't see coming.
When Leigh Bodden gets back I'll be excited to see how this secondary matches up against all the dangerous receiving teams the Pats will face. When was the last time the Pats had three excellent corners?
Wilfork and Gerard Warren swapped places at times against the Falcons, with Vince playing LDE and Warren taking the nose. The Pats will really need to land a stud d-lineman with one of their two first-rounders next year.
Is there another team that is so flush with young talent as the Patriots? There will be growing pains this year for sure, but regardless of how 2010 ends the future looks bright.
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Great read!
Ninkovich did have a nice sack off the edge. I haven’t got to rewatching the game yet, but he had some nice rushes in the 1st game.
I worked last night, so missed the game :(
but rewatched that game on NFL network, the TEs are gonna be great to watch this year looking foward to them.
Tackling...
Can’t say it enough, the tackling has been excellent in the two games so far. Patrick Chung, Brandon Spikes and Devin McCourty are stopping people dead in their tracks.
It’d be nice if they were covering though. Relatively few hands contesting the catch, and it seems unlikely that the QBs judgment is so good that they rarely throw if the receiver isn’t wide open.
Looks like the plan – or at least the action – is to let the receivers make the catch and then pop them….for that McKenzie was doing well.
well it's better than...
letting them catch it then run 20 yards with it. In the modern NFL it’s impossible to completely shut down passing attacks. But if you give up no yac, it forces dink and dunk. All you need to do is stop that 3rd down pass and you’re off the field.
by MikeDussault on Aug 20, 2010 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Tackling
well it’s better than…letting them catch it then run 20 yards with it.
Is certainly better than not tackling, but if you can’t actually break up passes now and then, then the elite offenses will cut you apart.
That said, it’s not a condemnation…it’s a recognition that they need to grow there, and a hope that they do.
McKenzie was knocking receivers silly...
at least two passes in quick succession knocked loose by hits.
I agree nice article!
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by Yardpenalty.com on Aug 20, 2010 9:56 PM EDT reply actions
I'm not sure anyone here ever jumped off the bandwagon...
And I’m pretty sure everyone here is pretty much is, and has been driving the MF’n wagon!
On a side note, I only saw the last quarter but seems like McKenzie was everywhere. There was a stretch there where he had like 5 tackles in a row or something…of course it wasn’t against starters. It’s tough for me to follow out here in AZ though but I’m doing my best dammit. At least it’s not New Zealand!
I exercise strong self control. I never drink anything stronger than gin before breakfast
At least it’s not New Zealand!
Makes following the Pats… interesting… but at least I have nice countryside in which to do it. Huzzah!
McKenzie made plays and got in his fair share of tackles, although it should be recognised he did it against a third-string O. If and when he showcases that against first-stringers, then I’ll be a very pleased Pats fan. The Pats D is built on across-the-line and up-the-middle, and strong ILBs are a major part of that.
Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.
by Comedic.Sans on Aug 21, 2010 4:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Shhh
I like it better when people are surprised the pats are good. Makes us all look smart ; )
Spokane WA only 2,266 miles from Foxboro MA
Is there another team that is so flush with young talent as the Patriots? There will be growing pains this year for sure, but regardless of how 2010 ends the future looks bright.
And thus one of the most seamless rebuilding periods in the history of the NFL enters its final stages.
USG
Colts have a swag of good young WRs in Collie, Garcon and Gonzalez, but I’m not sure how much is that they’re very talented (as opposed to ‘just’ good) and just how much is they have robo-Manning throwing to them.
I like the fact that the 2009 and 2010 drafts look fantastic, especially given just how many guys were taken in that era. When your roster cutbacks begin to look like some genuinely gifted guys will be out of jobs, you know you’re in a good place.
Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.
by Comedic.Sans on Aug 21, 2010 4:27 AM EDT up reply actions
Best DBs in the league?
Ok so we dont have an island, a champ or an asomugha, however who has a better set of DBs than us now? Bodden is rock, McCourty looks like he should be starting, Butler has had a few hiccups but should come through, Wheatley is looking like a second rounder, Arrington hits everything that moves, and if Wilhite is only your 6th DB then he’s a good no 6!
Safeties aren’t as strong, but Meriweather and Chung have good upside, Sanders won’t let you down, and McGowan when he reigns in the urge to constantly lay the wood on someone is solid.
Tell me another team that has that depth…no1 D Jets are reeling with Revis holding out, not to say they only have one semi decent safety…
Think about it, they got some more big men in so they can hold up against the Baltimores, and all the DBs are to deal with the Mannings and Brees of this world….
And as good as they are looking this year…they are going to rock next year….
jets and revis ...
i think jets will be ok without revis
what i don’t know is how well they will do when moss, welker/edelman, tate, hernandez and maybe even gronk will be the receivers…
i can see jets easily giving into revis and paying him if the game with patriots doesn’t go well
and even with revis all those receivers may overload the jets
although jets experience may take advantage of rookies lack of experience
remember that revis can only cover one receiver (moss) and he may not get any help like before and i think moss is upping his game this year ( no injuries either)
it will be interesting to see how the new patriot offense plays out against the jets over two games
if patriots can play against the jets with and without revis, that will create the real perception of what revis is worth
crumpler and gronk
i think their addition will improve run game blocking overall (although mankins being missing subtracts from it somewhat)
so it will be interesting ro see how jets do against that
One of my favorite plays on Thurs.
Was McCourty jamming Roddy White and forcing an incomplete pass on a key third down.
This team is so much more effective when cornerbacks play up, and McCourty and Butler both have the speed to get back if the receiver gets off it (which shouldn’t happen a lot.) I love the youth and intensity that this secondary can play with, and I hope that we keep it up throughout the season. i don’t want to see us getting complacent and playing way off the line on a consistent basis.
by Ethan Hammerman on Aug 21, 2010 1:26 PM EDT reply actions
my fav play was when he jammed Gonzo
and stripped the pass out from him on a slant on a TE not a WR….he looks good
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f'en A
for anyone who had to endure the last few years of the 14 yard cushion our dbs usually gave WRs
regardless of down and distant then this play has to be food for the soul!!!!!!!
Also gronks TD catch was just beautiful – how is any defense going to stop that play?
leave the gun, take the connolis
by injuredrightshoulder on Aug 22, 2010 7:17 AM EDT up reply actions
well now it's close to official on Kazcur
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New England Patriots veteran offensive guard Nick Kaczur(notes), who was standing in for unsigned Pro Bowl blocker Logan Mankins(notes), has had back surgery, according to the Boston Herald.
It’s probably a season-ending procedure, per the report, which characterized it as a bulging disc.
Kaczur hasn’t practiced since the second day of training camp.
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If you look at Kazcur, he has a lot of Crable in him
drafted at age 26 in 2005
on PUP 2 years from jul 06 to jul 08
played 2009
and now kaput again for 2010
and he’s 31
Oakland is suppose to have 10 NFL grade OL
the most of any team
If Oakland has something the Patriots can give away, I expect there to be a trade
Trade bait includes
Sanders
Wheatley or Wilhite
Mankins (athough he would have to be signed so not probable)
I had surgery for a bulging disc recently.
It’s six weeks off (before you can work out) then time to get back in shape again. I was breaking concrete again in Week 7, but that’s not the same as pushing back Vince Wilfork. Since he’s an NFL player, he could do light workout (half weight) probable after week 2. I would suspect he could be back in December, which might make sense since depth is a real issue late in the season and Kaczur knows the offense.
Still I wouldn’t be surprised if they just IR’d him.
Here’s the key PUP rules. I’ll highlight the important points in the ones that apply:
First and foremost, there are two PUP lists. The Active PUP is for players that have some form of injury that will prevent them from starting training camp. And one of the most important rules, a player must be on Active PUP in order to be considered for Reserve PUP. Reserve PUP players are not eligible to play for the first six weeks of the season. Reserve PUP players do not count against the 53 man roster.
The Active PUP players were Wes Welker, Shawn Crable, and Kade Weston. Kaczur wasn’t on that list at the start of training camp – the only time you can go on that list. Therefore, no Active PUP means no Reserve PUP, which means 53 man roster or IR for Herr Kaczur.
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Aug 21, 2010 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions
I had ...
a disc tear less than 2 years ago and could hardly walk
i still haven’t recovered from that so i can exercise with walking and running (i swim a lot). They say it’s not curable but I don’t believe that. I think it just getting nutrients and blood to the effected area, exercising spine and takes a while. i think circulation in effected area is critical to healing. I use an inversion table to keep my spine straight. cheaper and more convenient than going to a chiropractor. If I had an inversion table and knew what was happening with me before it happened, I could have prevented it in first place
if he could come back later this year, that would be really good news for patriots but given the rules they may IR him as you say.
I have an inversion table as well. It's nice for decompressing the spine.
For me the damage started years ago. The Chiro kept the symptoms in check and Tae Kwon Do strengthened all the core muscles. That bought me alot of time. Finally, the pain got to the point where it was affecting my life. I could sit and sleep, but not walk, run, or pretty much anything else without pain. I begrudgingly got the surgery, and then proceded to kick myself for not doing it sooner. Pain was gone immediately – I even walked a mile that night. They gave me pain killers and I stopped taking them after a day or so. After a week, the whole family was fighting to keep me from doing stuff. I felt so good, and I was climbing the walls to do stuff. After three weeks, I started to do lifting (nothing that would compress my spine). By 6 weeks I was off restrictions, at 7 I was breaking concrete again, and by 8 I was around 90%. The last 10% is the hardest. They could probably do a much more aggressive schedule with Kaczur, since he started in NFL shape.
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Aug 21, 2010 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions
finding a ...
a really good kinesiologist or maybe even another chiropractor is important
they aren’t all created equal
thinking about it further, kazcur may be finished if he doesn’t play this year
i hope the gronk is being proactive with his back
how did you get that type of injury?
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Bad posture for years, as well as having a wallet in my back pocket.
The wallet shifts the hips when you sit, and forces the disc to compress on one side.
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Aug 22, 2010 8:33 AM EDT up reply actions
didnt know a wallet could do that
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Depends upon how much money you have ;-)
… or pictures of old/current girlfriends…..
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Aug 22, 2010 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions
so
do you have the entire show on dvds?
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definitely
I now habitually pull my wallet out of my pocket when I sit down to drive (I have a long commute). It makes a huge difference.
And at work I often leave it in my brief case.
Here's what sitting on a wallet can do:
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Aug 24, 2010 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions
It can also put direct pressure on Sciatic nerve
causing either numbness or pain, or both (pain in the leg, but a numb foot – for example).
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Aug 24, 2010 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Either have Hubby move his wallet to his front pocket or relieve him of all his money.
Your choice….
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Aug 24, 2010 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions
or give it to his wife
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Notic how one side of the hip is lower than the other...
That’s the start. It causes you to shift your weight back to sit up straight. Your muscles get trained that way and hold your spine there even when you are not sitting. It then affects your leg, knee and ankle joints.
It’s really bad for people who sit all day.
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Aug 24, 2010 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions
i'm not trult convinced that posture or wallet is the key culprit
i think there are some undiagnosed cofactors happening inside the body that predispose people. Bad posture and other things will just increase the speed and likelihood of the condition happening.
I know when I was younger, my body could easily withstand a lot of bad posture etc. As I get older, that ability lessens.
Also as I reached middle age, I could more easily rehabilitate any back problems within week with exercise such as … exercises for abdominals e.g. partial sit-ups, and sitting against wall to strengthen back and upper thigh muscles … and i’d be as good as new
For someone near that tipping point of developing the condition – better posture, it can delay problem. When the undiagnosed internal co-factors are severe, it may not make enough difference.
I understand the wallet in pocket thing since if I lie down or even sleep with something in my back pocket for extended period of time, it can weaken the back. I always remove things from my pocket.
virtually the people i ever knew who had back surgery
were never the same again … you should know that
if the source of the problem is still there, it will come back
this is one thing back doctor don’t tell patients
i would take proactive measures to protect your back such as
bouncing on a ball while sitting
using inversion table
nutrients such as glocosamine chondroitin
find good kinesiologist or chiropractor
bottom line … be proactive in terms of prevention
and don't sit on a wallet....
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Aug 21, 2010 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions
I have one of those balls you can sit on.
For anyone starting out, don’t sit there for too long to begin with. I’ve seen people sit on them (without the bouncing) for a couple hours and their core muscles will be killing them in a day. Build up.
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Aug 21, 2010 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions
the whole idea of the ball is to
bounce gently to move the spine up and down
but i would have an inversion table to make sure spine doesn’t compress
usually no more than 30 minutes very gently twice a day
but i recommend no more than 5 or 10 minutes without inversion table
I do glucosamine chondroitin with MSM
Also leaning while using the computer is a really bad thing.
Walking puts the least pressure on your spine and is a decent core strengthener.
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Aug 21, 2010 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions
strengthening the core is important
i bounce with a ball instead of chair when sitting in front of computer
it strengthens the back and core
one must sit straight when bouncing
Prioris,
do you know if cracking your back affects you at all? contribute to back pain etc?
by bizarrowelker on Aug 23, 2010 1:14 AM EDT up reply actions
not sure what you mean by cracking
bouncing is also suppose to help draw in nutrients etc to area
do you mean stretching on inversion table
he means making an 'adjustment' (to use the chiropractic lingo)
Some argue that adjustments (twisting to correct mis-aligned vertabrae or other joints – sometimes accompanied by a ‘cracking’ or popping) causes excess wear and stress on the joint.
Others argue that more damage is done by leaving the joint in misalignment, because that restricts blood flow, pinches nerves and stresses already inflamed tissues.
I think a lot depends on the skill of the person doing the adjustment.
oh ok
my problem was between L4 and L5
i never had any problems with chiro cracking
i agree, it probably comes down to skill or error or incompetence
i have heard of injuries but they are probably rare
if it is something complicated . i would have the doctor and chiroprator work together.
a long time ago i had a kinesiologist in auburn, mass. people would fly on around the world and see him. he was good.
a kinesiologist is a bone and muscle doctor
a chiropractor is a bone doctor
i think kinesiologists are more well trained and skill but i there is some qualitative difference between them.
i would prefer one of those but around here in florida they are almost non existent.
I've got a herniation at L4 - L5, but it isn't causing any problems.
The surgery I had was for L5 – S1, which is a pretty common one.
For those wonder just what the heck that means. The spinal cord is divided in to four sections (starting at the head) which are the Cervical ©, Thoracic (T) (once upon a time called Dorsal), Lumbar (L) (hence the lumbar support in some chairs/cars), and Sacral (S).
They are number from the head down:
C1 – C8, T1 – T12, L1 – L5, and S1 – S5. As you can see from the picture (assuming it comes through), each section has a curve to it, and the points of inflection (curve changes) come at C8-T1, T12-L5, and L5-S1. That’s where most people have problems.
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Aug 24, 2010 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions
If you can line up those intersections when you sit, stand, sleep, etc.
then you will decrease the pressure on your spine.
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Aug 24, 2010 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions
It's pretty
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Aug 24, 2010 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions
oh yeah, weight can be another issue for some people
a few years back, my body couldn’t shed weight like it use to for some reason
i countered it with CLA and works … an amish nephew told me that CLA is produced in grass fed cows
i mean ...
If Oakland WANTS something the Patriots can give away, I expect there to be a trade
kazcur’s durability problems greatly increase chances he will be let go next year
thanks for the news
I already counted Kazcur out for the season, but that’s gotta be a brutal thing to go through. I hope the surgery brings him relief.
Keep the faith!
defense
I don’t know how the line will end upthere are ? marks but I saw hard hitting wrapped up tackles,recievers seperated from the ball,All in all I haven’t felt this good about the upside of the d in years,as the season goes on people will not want to play these guys they are tough smart and I think ready to start to have some play makers come into their own .I did not see it coming so soon but I am getting ready for the rebuilt and ready defense to make a mark.We just need solid play upfront and some pressure,an ise asecondary on the verge of taking over gaes,and an inside LB corps that is more athleti than I don’t know how long .
Kaczur is definitely gone after this season.
I would like to see the PATS grab a first round center nex year. I think Koppen could give the PATS one more excellent season after this one. I also think they should draft a first round offensive tackle next year and move Vollmer to left tackle.
Mankins was a first rounder
See where that got us? I’m not sure I like the sense of entitlement a first rounder O-Line guy has.
Of course, I’ll admit the sample size is pretty small. About the same size as Mankin’s forethought.
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Aug 22, 2010 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Mankins is the poster child for what should change in the NFL.
I do think there have to be firm rules put in place to protect the teams and the fans from this type of contractual negation – ditto with Revis.
I strongly feel that contracts must be honored. Period. This should include shorter rookie contracts to help avoid this type of issue.
However, once a player signs a contract, they must be held accountable by the league to honor it. If a guy like Revis or Mankins decide to ‘hold out’, the team should be entitled to place them on a new list: the UTP: “Unwilling to Play”. This list should become a season ending decision, the player goes without pay, and the team receives a credit on its cap total for the following season if said player does not return before the draft. By not returning to the line-up before the draft, the player hence forfeits there salary again.
And, most importantly, said player is banned from the NFL until one season after his present contract reaches its conclusion. That will deter players from sitting out the last year of a contract since it would equate to two seasons without income/pay.
To this point, the PATS should re-negotiate rookie contracts before they conclude when a player shows excellent, long term potential/upside. By lengthening their contract early, they might save money. And, it also locks in talent for longer stretches.
Guys like Mayo, Meriweather, Pryor, Connelly, Vollmer, Gostkowski, and Edelman are worth this type of manuever. Why not. Lock these gems in now for a longer term.
teams dont honor contracts
a player could be cut 3 years into a 5 year contract. unless you guarantee the entire contract…the players union will never agree to your proposal unless teams agree to honor all player contracts from their side
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Yes. I meant to include that.
Contracts must be binding on both sides. Just shorten them to three years. Don’t allow contracts beyond that length. That gives players three years to prove their value. The elite players can sign highly lucrative contracts for years 4, 5, and 6. Others will sign for more pedestrian salaries. Years 7, 8, and 9 are variable in dollar amount with the range of possibilities being infinite based on many variables.
By NFL standards, “pedestrian” still exceeds most normal household incomes.
Personally, I think the players union should contractually insist on every player creating a trust account in the player’s name [joint account if married] and thus protect these players from absurd, over spending. The trust generates a monthly income [an annuity check]. It’s based on a fixed percentage as established by the Player’s union on an annual basis – taking inflation into account.
A “pedestrian” salary for 9 seasons in the NFL, if invested in a protected trust, is very capable of sustaining a player many years after retirement.
The elite players will obviously enjoy more of their income by receiving larger annuity checks each month. However, they too will enjoy the peace of mind knowing that they have a nest egg after retirement.
This design will end these hold outs. Three year binding contracts on both sides. Period.
it's a contract ...
the player who signs that contract know ahead of time they may be cut.
if they get cut, the contract has been honored.
most players get guaranteed money.
any player who has banked 4-5 million has hit the lottery which virtually all
first draft picks get.
crying boohoo and saying i could be cut … well they will have to struggle on that 4 to 5 million
the flip side to winning the lottery … it has actually destroyed many lives
personally, i would rather hit the lottery at age 30-35 than young. one has at least gained some experience to manage it. any earlier, it is scary to think of all the stupid things one can do with it. that life experience is important
i know if i were a player, i would just
a) stick my money mostly in T-bills, currencies and bonds and maybe a little gold. their all rigged but less downside. The domestic and international financial markets are rigged by massive collusion of the Federal reserve, Treasury, Banks, investment houses, hedge funds, exchanges, management, boards of directors, market makers/ specialists and pentagon/cia covert groups along with financial media so something to stay away from unless one has gone up the steep learning curve and understand that one is walking into a casino where the house always wins. You need an edge and disciplined emotions to win.
b) I would buy my parents something like a house and maybe a medium price car.
c) i would buy my siblings a college education
d) i would just live in upper middle class style.
e) i would educate myself in esoteric money management and economics as much as football so i would not be totally dependent on or blinded by outside advice.
f) credit cards are dangerous. i would use credit cards for mostly emergency, or rental cars etc
g) i would budget my spending ahead of time
h) i would have long range budget over many decades
i) don’t be santa claus
j) i would never donate to most charities since most are run for corrupt or hidden purposes
k) put money in nfl retirement fund
things that can doom a player would be
1) deep psychological problems … shopaholics, pregnaholics, greed etc
they have to know themself but not necessarily easy to overcome especially young age
2) getting married to wrong women and then having children
they got a big boat anchor that you will carry around the rest of their life
3) sociopathic family members or people close to them … contrary to popular belief family isn’t everything
We agree. Hence, my support of a trust account
contractually arranged by the NFL for each signed player: for NFL contract: no excpetions. These KIDS need to be protected against themself and the THREE “dooms” you listed. By arranging a monthly annuity for each contract signed, the player is safe guarded against disaster – not completely, of course, but it is a lot better than handing them the sum of cash unguarded.
I also believe T-Notes are 100% guarenteed, and they have numerous maturity lengths.
OL are easier to obtain in the draft. you can draft an OL in the second/third round, and he can turn out to be a stud.
I still think DL with the 1st pick, THEN OL with the second first rounder.
There are A LOT of good OL in next years draft.
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
Down with Big Brother!
I mean...
…Light was a 2nd rounder, Vollmer was a 2nd rounder, Koppen was a 5th rounder, Neal was UDFA, Kaczur was a 3rd rounder, Connolly was a FA pick-up. The Patriots don’t have any real need to grab a first round talent. The team has an affinity for offensive linemen with chips on their shoulders and it usually works.
With Light’s contract ending after this season, the team is definitely going to draft a tackle early on, but it will probably be with a 2nd round pick. Vollmer’s the only real definite starter beyond this season, and he’s still liable to suffer a sophomore slump. The offensive line needs a LOT of work.
by Richard Hill on Aug 22, 2010 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions
i agree with this
with all the losses and aging players, the OL will need the most work
i see DE as a necessary first round pick to replace aging players since they are in high demand and fewer but none worth drafting may be available if raiders finish well
i see RB as more plentiful and not necessary to get top selection e.g. gerhart
i see another OLB as 1st or 2nd
they need to replace aging starters at C, G and OT. they can find talent in any round
only OT is considered 1st round worthy but i doubt there would be one worthy of drafting so high with current picks
we all know what they will target but at which round is more difficult to know
I like BB's present apporach. They draft
several OL and DL each year hoping to find a keeper or two. Guys like Ohrnberger, Bussey, Deaderick, Pryor, and Welch have a short window to show they are worth keeping. Guys like Brace have a little longer time, but maybe by one year.
It seems to work quite nicely. Vollmer, Neal, Koppen, etc. are all “keepers” among many who were not kept. Connelly, Hochstein, and etc. are great subs who were unknowns.
I think O-line and D-line can be assembled with 3rd rounders and even lower. However, I still would risk a 1st rounder on a great college Center or a great college Left Tackle. I would also risk a 1st round pick on a great college Nose Tackle.
Those are the three key positions. I think the risk is necessary to build a solid line.
NT as 1st round picks scare me since they tend to be obese looking
You may need a crane to get them on the field
Unless one has a top 10 pick, finding a worthy first round OT may be difficult
Agreed. If the Raider's pick falls in the top 10,
I’d prefer a left tackle if one is available. Otherwise, I would look at an OLB.
I do hope Moss is retained. I think he is superb. With the WR and slot receiver group in place, this passing attack could be lethal for years. Moss would allow Tate and Price to develop slowly while under his guidance.
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