New England Patriots Links 8/23/10 - Preseason Midpoint Brings Optimism, Concern
Tom Brady on WEEI's Dennis & Callahan Show this morning revealed he hates the Jets and refuses to support them by watching 'Hard Knocks.' He also remembers his first training camp:
“I called my agent a couple of weeks into training camp. We had John Friesz and Michael Bishop and Drew [Bledsoe] obviously on the roster. This was two weeks into camp … I said [to agent Steve Dubin], ‘I think I want to buy Ty Law’s condo.’ He said, ‘What are you talking about? The final cuts are in three weeks, you don’t even have any money.’ I said, ‘Don’t even worry about that.’ I forgot how much it was. I probably had 20,000 bucks to my name. Ty brought me over there. I was a little rookie sucker he wanted to sell his house to. I did end up doing it before the final cutdown. [Dubin] said, ‘Are you sure you’re going to be around.’ I said, ‘Don’t worry, of course I’m going to make the team,’ without much hesitation. When I think back to that, we kept four quarterbacks that year. … I don’t think that was the smartest real estate move I’ve ever made.”
Asked if he ever received acknowledgment from Belichick that he was doing well, Brady responded: “I’ve played with Belichick for 10 years, and I don’t think he’s ever said we’re doing good. We beat the Redskins a few years ago. He said. ‘That was a decent job the other night.’ We won by 50 points.”
Karen Guregian notes Thomas Dimitroff discusses how Bill Belichick handles losing players like Nick Kaczur.
"I never doubt the recoverability and resilience of a Bill Belichick-coached football team," Dimitroff said last week. "The impressive thing about the Patriots, and Bill, and the way he approaches things, is that he’s really dialed into his personnel and their abilities. If someone gets hurt, he knows the next person to come in. He’s always very adept at making sure he has the right person to come into that spot."
Kirk Minihane talks Top 10 Quarterbacks in NFL history.
(Aside: All it took was two preseason games for the "Brady has gone Hollywood" crowd to sneak quietly out the back door, huh? What a bunch of dopes... And most of those guys don't even believe what they are saying -- they just want ratings and page views and phone calls. It's a lot easier to call a guy a sellout or question his manhood than it is to admit that you have no idea what you're talking about. But Brady? This is a guy risking a helluva lot by playing this preseason. I'm not sure if I were Brady's agent I'd be OK with him on the field until a contract was in ink. I don't know, I understand he's rich and famous... but it has to bother Brady that Kyle Orton and Sam Bradford will make more money than he does this year.)
TEAM TALK
- Erik Scalavino reports the Patriots are beginning their post-camp transition to regular season.
- Preview: New England Patriots vs. Saint Louis Rams. Broadcast info, series history, team connections and what to look for.
- Patriots Today - Welker's return highlights victory. (5.56 min. video)
- Locker Room Uncut - Reactions after win over Falcons. (3 min. video)
LOCAL LINKS
- Chris Gasper thinks the early returns from the Patriots 'are encouraging and suggest that a changing of the guard in the AFC East isn't going to happen without a street fight.'
- Tom E. Curran looks at the questions still dangling halfway through preseason.
- Albert Breer says the Patriots offense is still forming its identity.
- Albert Breer kicks the tires on newly acquired guard from Atlanta Quinn Ojinnaka.
- Albert Breer examines the growth of the Patriots running game, saying the offense that became overly pass-happy in the last few years seems to be getting its physical edge back.
- Christopher Price notes the Patriots are leaning on a running back rotation through preseason and the results have been good.
- Mike Reiss feels that a focus on the running game is creating a complete offense for the Patriots.
- Karen Guregian points out the Pats have started to get opposing defenses off-balance.
- Christopher Price looks at how often each receiver has been targeted so far and what sort of numbers they've posted through two preseason games.
- Ian Rapoport reports Nick Kaczur underwent surgery aimed at relieving persistent back pain, and may be out for the entire 2010 season.
- Mike Reiss offers some quick-hit thoughts from the Patriots and around the NFL.
- Mike Reiss cleans out his notebook with some quick-hit thoughts on a day off for players.
- Mike Reiss notes that the New England Patriots' strong start to the preseason has surprised some football analysts and some fans who follow the team.
- Mike Reiss takes a field trip to solicit the opinions of Patriots fans. The result? Optimism is high.
- Tom E. Curran tackles the problem with Asante's rant.
- Karen Guregian updates her 53-man roster prediction. All teams have to cut their rosters from 80 down to 75 players by August 31st.
- Ian Rapoport rewinds the Patriots win over the Falcons with coach Bill Belichick.
- Mike Rodak reviews the Pats-Falcons preseason game and offers some additional observations: First Quarter, Second Quarter, Third Quarter and Fourth Quarter.
- Christopher Price offers some further review of Patriots vs. Falcons.
- Mike Reiss looks at the snaps played by Patriots defenders against the Falcons.
- Mike Reiss breaks down special teams play in the Pats-Falcons game.
- Monique Walker details Brian Hoyer's journey from Michigan State to Foxboro. Hoyer says Tom Brady has been "huge for [his] development," a good teammate and a good mentor.
- Ian Rapoport notes QB Brian Hoyer was wearing the same knee brace as Tom Brady and Wes Welker, merely as a precaution at Brady's suggestion.
- Mike Reiss focuses on Devin McCourty as a more physical corner and a willing tackler.
- Ian Rapoport Thinks DE Ron Brace has begun to change some minds.
- Robert Lee reports with his second season off to a shaky start, Ron Brace hopes he can rise up to expectations.
- Jeff Howe says Rob Ninkovich gives the Patriots a versatile option at long snapper.
- Albert Breer reports Rob Gronkowski has two brothers also fighting through NFL training camp.
- Karen Guregian wonders if anyone is catching tight end fever.
- Albert Breer checks in on the rest of the Patriots' division rivals in preseason action.
- Boston Globe: A fan's guide to the 2010 Patriots.
- Ian Rapoport Patriots Notebook: Belichick tempers the enthusiasm over the reemergence of the running game; Belichick is treating the preseason weeks, schedule-wise, like the regular season; Asante Samuel engages in revisionist history; The play where Wes Welker appeared to get drilled in Atlanta looked worse than it was.
NATIONAL NEWS
- Tim Graham (ESPN) Best duo: T.O.-Ochocinco or Moss-Welker? Is this even a question? Includes a spirited debate by Michael Smith and Skip Bayless. (5.37 min. video)
- Tim Graham (ESPN) A look at Wes Welker's ongoing recovery.
- Ross Tucker (SI) Logan Mankins squabble with Pats points to troubling trend: A failure to communicate.
- Peter King (SI) MMQB: Vikings' Childress has no regret after begging Favre to come back.
- Tim Graham (ESPN) Review of Jets-Panthers field goalathon.
- Tim Graham (ESPN) Observations from Dolphins-Jaguars.
- Sean Leahy (USA Today) St. Louis Rams QB Bradford could get call to start against New England.
- Andrew Brandt (Nat'l Football Post) Inside the Revis talks: Part II
- Donald H. Yee (Miami Herald) A case for privatizing college football. Tom Brady's agent speaks out.
- Michael David Smith (ProFootballTalk) Ochocinco tweet leads to scrutiny of NFL drug testing program.
- Doug Farrar (Yahoo! Sports) The Favre mantra: Do as I say, not as I do.
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Funny, he openly admits he hates the Jets like it was something incredibly obvious
but then later says he’d ‘rather not [say a lot of mean things].’ The hate is just there as a fact, but he doesn’t want to insult them. Seems like it would be contradictory, but it actually makes sense.
Keep the faith!
Tom Curran summed up what I was thinking:
Ty Law was the best cover corner in the league from 1998 through 2001. When Champ Bailey supplanted Law, Ty was still one of the best big-game corners we’ve seen in the past 20 years. Ty Law was a complete corner. He could cover, turn and run, jam, tackle, make plays on the ball and return. Asante is a one-dimensional corner. The dimension is pretty good but . . . Consider this . . . In Super Bowl 36, Ty Law made a play in the Super Bowl that led to the Patriots securing one of the great wins in sports history. In Super Bowl 42, Asante Samuel failed to make a play that led to one of the greatest losses in sports history. Doy.
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The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.
by SlotMachinePlayer on Aug 23, 2010 11:18 AM EDT reply actions
Peter King had a similar reaction too
That’s absurd. Belichick simply didn’t value a corner who didn’t tackle well as being a $9-million-a-year player. Smart move on his part.
Samuel’s a very good player, but he isn’t near what all-around corner Darrelle Revis or Nnamdi Asomugha are, and his awful fourth quarter against the Giants helped cost the Patriots what would have been a Super Bowl title. Teams throw at Samuel far more than they throw at Revis or Asomugha.
Keep the faith!
Revis can tackle?
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
Down with Big Brother!
by patriotguy2 on Aug 23, 2010 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions
It's been theorized, but never proven....
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Aug 23, 2010 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions
We won't see him tackle until he comes back on the field.
Oopsies.
My kingdom for a spellchecker. Or Devin Harris. Hopefully both.
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Aug 24, 2010 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Asante Samuel was no Ty Law
Keep the faith!
by Marima on Aug 23, 2010 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Samuel's style of play only works with a good Free Safety over the top.
To play that way all the time is too big a gamble.
You’re padding your individual stats by betting the team’s wins. In Foxboro, that’s a gamble Hoodie won’t take.
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Aug 23, 2010 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions
I like this part in Ross Tucker's mailbag:
Which coach’s diversity and length of resume amazes or impresses you the most?
I’d say Bill Belichick because his football knowledge is so vast that I believe he could be a position coach for every single position on the field, and that’s saying something. And he has a keen understanding of the financial and personnel side of the business.
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Aug 23, 2010 11:27 AM EDT reply actions
Does any coach in sports have more power than Belichick?
He runs practically everything.
Oh, if a man tried to take his time on earth, and prove before he died
What one man's life could be worth--oh, I wonder what would happen to this world.
by LegendaryTadpole on Aug 23, 2010 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm with Brady, I hate the Jets as well.
The high pitched whine and all. Give me a prop plane anyday. C-130 !
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Aug 23, 2010 5:09 PM EDT reply actions
Belichick said it's not exactly news that division rivals don't like each other
when he was told about Brady’s comments this afternoon on WEEI. He hasn’t watched any Hard Knocks episodes either.
Keep the faith!
It's gotta be news, it's in all the headlines....
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Aug 23, 2010 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I know... it's hilarious
Brady and Belichick take such care parsing their words that anything they say candidly is definitely headline-inducing.
Keep the faith!
loved the hoyer article and the TO Chad and Moss and Wes article/vid
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Can't say I'm a Skip Bayless fan
or any of those clowns really, but he was dead on. Yeah I’m homer but come on…Those 2 vs. Moss and Welker??? I’d take Moss and Edelman or Tate over those 2! Or AHern or Gronk for that matter. Jennings and Driver, Rice/Harvin etc.. There is a a bunch of combo’s I’d take over 85 and TO actually, and I love Ocho. TO is done though. Not to mention the have Tommy Terrific and not some over hyped USC QB throwing to them. Its a silly argument really
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