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New England Patriots Links 8/31/10 - 'Anxiousness, Apprehension' Among Players

Brady and the starters were told to be ready to play on Thursday.

Bill Belichick explains the process when a player gets called in to be cut from the roster.

We talk to each player whatever his situation is. Sometimes we release him. Sometimes they are in a PUP or IR type situation. Sometimes they are involved in a practice squad type of transaction. Whatever it is, we talk to the player. We talk to his representatives and try to get everybody on the same page.

I think that there’s anxiousness or an apprehension with players at this point of the season relative to a lot of things. We are all a little unsettled on something whether it’s coaching decisions or whether it’s players being on the team, what their role is, what their playing time looks like to them, so forth. I think a lot of us fall into that category for one reason or another. It’s pretty common in training camp or any kind of a competitive situation like that. Once there is a deadline for certain decisions, at least something is determined after that. Maybe not everything, but something’s determined.

Tim Graham (ESPN) Words of wisdom from Bill Belichick when asked by a reporter if he feels uncertainties about his team.

"I think every coach feels like that. I can't imagine that you wouldn't. Regular season and preseason are two different things. Teams start game planning against you. Then you find out a little bit more about where you're really at on some things. Preseason, you're running your plays. They're running their plays. Sometimes they match up. Sometimes they don't. You're playing a lot of people. There are a lot of different matchups

"It's hard to get a read on it. Once you get to the regular season, nobody holds back. You get their best game plan. You get your toughest matchups. You try to create [tough matchups] for them. Your weaknesses get exposed. You try to get to your strengths, but they don't let you get to them as easily. And you're doing the same.

"It's a whole different game. Until that happens, I don't think you are really sure where exactly everything is. It's different in the regular season."

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So Brady played last year with a broken finger and some broken ribs...

…and still threw for nearly 4400 yards and 28 TDs — career numbers for most QBs and his second best season statistically — and Clayton marked him down for his performance?

Teh Stoopid is neverending!

by RSNexile on Aug 31, 2010 10:33 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

AND he says the direction he's heading in is "flat"

How misleading! For Brady to stay the same, he’d have to put up another year of tops in the league numbers. Falls into the category of “it’s all in the spin” and Clayton wanted to make sure his was a negative one for Brady.

Keep the faith!

by Marima on Aug 31, 2010 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Most QBs would kill to stay "flat" from the numbers Brady put up last year

And he has better and more diverse weapons this year — figure Welker will take a step back because he’s still recovering, but Moss should be better, Edelman and Tate should be a lot better, and the TEs should collectively be orders of magnitude better than what we had last year. As long as the line holds up — that is the big question mark for Brady — he should go for 4200-4500 yards, 30-35 TDs. But because it won’t be 5000 yards and 50 TDs, the narrative will still be that he just hasn’t been the same since he blew out his knee.

by RSNexile on Aug 31, 2010 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

claytons ranking of brady doesnt

really bother me i think they are just about right. i mean after a decade of the nfl bradys arrow isnt going up anymore but his years of flat at 4400 yards and approx 30 tds are going ot be a few more. my problem is he has rapelessberger and favre ahead of aaron rodgers. aaron rodgers is head and tails better then big ben and big phony.

by brady12mvp3 on Aug 31, 2010 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Roethlisberger isn’t even allowed to play a quarter of the season. Wtf?

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by Comedic.Sans on Aug 31, 2010 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

The thing that lots of people amazingly overlook is...

not only was Tom coming back from injury last year, but he had to deal with the following:
1. Broken ribs suffered in the pre-season from the Haynesworth hit
2. Moss was injured from the Broncos game for the rest of the season
3. Third receiver duties shared between a rookie (Edelman) and a life time special teamer (Aiken) who had only 20ish catches in 4 previous seasons
4. Mediocre tight end production
5. First year co-ordinator who showed his inexpereince with a lack of in game adjustments and predictable play calling
6. Slightly above average run game run game
I really don’t think its unrealistic with this set of pass catching threats for Tom to target 35-40 td’s. We will be throwing lots in the red zone this year, to better effect with more height and strength.

by Ashto12 on Aug 31, 2010 11:49 AM EDT reply actions  

I think the only thing that might limit Tom's TD's

is the use of the run in short yardage red zone situations. Past that, the skies the limit.

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by SlotMachinePlayer on Aug 31, 2010 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I agree that could limit his TD's...

but with no sign of our best run blocker and a second rounder invested in a monster of a TE, I think the pats will still throw a lot in short yardage red zone situations. Team can’t just focus on stopping moss now, and I think Gronkowski is undefendable in those situations. I actually think they should consider limiting welker in red zone plays this year as he is not so effective in the redzone, and i actually think edelman would be more effective there, as we saw with his td catch against the colts last year.

by Ashto12 on Aug 31, 2010 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

You're in Korea?

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by SlotMachinePlayer on Aug 31, 2010 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

STALKER ALERT

RUN FOR YOUR LIVES…RUN!!!!!!!
just kidding lol

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by NinjaZX6R on Aug 31, 2010 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

90% of the posters here are from New England

Most of the rest of us are from elsewhere in the US.

Those that pop in from outside the US, usually have a more interesting story than, “I was born in the shadow of Foxboro with a birthmark in the shape of a Flying Elvis. I was destined to be a Pat’s fan.”

Just asking.

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by SlotMachinePlayer on Aug 31, 2010 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

i know i know

i was just kidding lol….i would prob do the same thing if i was you

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by NinjaZX6R on Aug 31, 2010 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haha, I live over here at the minute...

but I’m actually from England. Doing some teaching over here and thought I would see a bit of the world while I’m still relatively young! Unfortunately, the time difference is going to kill me over here as I won’t be able to stream games live! Thats not the worst of it however…I work with some Bills fans!

by Ashto12 on Aug 31, 2010 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Poor guy!

There ought to be a law, lol

Keep the faith!

by Marima on Aug 31, 2010 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Did you get to see the Pats last year in London?

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by SlotMachinePlayer on Aug 31, 2010 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ha if only there were a law!

I wasn’t in England at the time of the game unfortunately. I actually became a pats fan through an interest in Belichick rather than a lot of the English who support the Patriots because “its got England in the name!” (shouted in a loutish english accent) haha.

by Ashto12 on Aug 31, 2010 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Welcome aboard.

I spent a couple years living in East Anglia when I was younger. I took the family over there a few years ago and they enjoyed themselves.

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by SlotMachinePlayer on Sep 1, 2010 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Glad to be here...

Good to talk with some guys who know their football, there’s a lack of discussion over here! Yeah there’s a decent amount to like about England, however I’m not exactly missing it at the moment…I’m actually from Liverpool myself but East Anglia is a nice place!

by Ashto12 on Sep 2, 2010 5:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

The most important stat for me is percentage conversions

That is the area I would like to have someone break down regarding Brady’s performance over the past four seasons.

I have no idea what is considered a good percentage: league wise. But, it would be quite interesting to see just how Brady pans out on his pass completion percentages when comparing:

1st down passes
to
2nd down passes
to
3rd down passes
to
4th down passes.

by couchpotato on Aug 31, 2010 12:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Percentages and yards per attempt both factor in.

Otherwise Chad Pennington looks like the best QB in the league (he’s good, but no means the best)

If it’s all yards per attempt, guys in vertical schemes can rise to the top, but again, they have their limitations – when’s the last time a Favre, McNabb, Rodgers or Rivers won a Superbowl?

Get a guy who’s both great at YPA and Percentage, and you get a Superbowl winner – like Drew Brees, unsurprisingly.

Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.

by Comedic.Sans on Aug 31, 2010 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

All three TE's should be money in the red zone.

Crumpler is a superb receiver – he was Vick’s big go to guy in Atlanta. He’s huge. Gronkowski adds a litte extra speed to Crumpler’s skill set. Hernandez adds a lot more size to the slot position, and his shiftiness is surprisingly good making the drop off from Welker and Edelman somewhat irrelevent in the red zone where added size and power are more useful given the higher percentage for collisions.

Aiken and Price are two nice size WR’s whose value could be exploited in the red zone where Tate might be better used in the open field. And, of course, Moss makes all of these guy bigger threats because he automatically draws double coverage in the red zone. Moss is awesome. They must re-sign him. His value is unparalleled.

by couchpotato on Aug 31, 2010 1:27 PM EDT reply actions  

do we know what's up with Edelman?

     getting a bit worried about him and Cunningham, as the season gets closer.
      Brady will be awesome this year, although I am curious as to see how are O line comes together, that will be huge.

by furiousd on Aug 31, 2010 2:43 PM EDT reply actions  

He was held out of practice again today

He hurt something after that first preseason game. I just don’t want to see his name pop up on the IR list this afternoon.

Keep the faith!

by Marima on Aug 31, 2010 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Are we not talking about the Spikes controversy because this is a family site?

Without going into detail, does anyone think he’s at risk of getting cut, given the Krafts’ insistence on “high character” guys?

Personally, I don’t think he is at all at risk of being cut. Just seeing if anyone’s heard or thinks otherwise.

by nbradley07 on Aug 31, 2010 10:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Eh... there's a fanshot about it

I left it alone for a couple of reasons. As embarrassing as this is for Spikes and for the organization, nothing he did was illegal and no one was hurt (at least physically) by his actions. His family might feel differently, and the young woman who is also visible might have been hurt if she didn’t know the ‘session’ was being broadcast – but that’s for him to deal with privately. He doesn’t have to answer to anyone, really, and I’d rather not not be the judge of someone’s sex conduct.

If the behavior becomes of a criminal nature with domestic abuse or rape, then that’s a different story.

Since this was something he did in college, and before he was drafted, I’d guess the Patriots didn’t know about it and there would be no reason for Spikes to tell them (again, since it wasn’t illegal – or even wrong in some people’s eyes.) Just like with any employer-employee relationship, Belichick and Kraft can talk with Spikes about the incident, but again, unless it becomes a distracting pattern or begets criminal charges, I don’t see why it would involve him being cut.

Keep the faith!

by Marima on Aug 31, 2010 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Totally agree.

I saw the fanshot right after I posted this.

The only concern I have is that the Patriots care more about their players’ public image than most teams. However, they’ve kept players (i.e. Kevin Faulk) who’ve done worse (at least in the eyes of the law). Like you said – no DV, no criminal activity, no (serious) problem. I’m sure he’ll get a talking to, but I don’t think it endangers his place on the team.

by nbradley07 on Aug 31, 2010 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

A sex-tape doesn't immediately strike me as particularly damaging to the public image.

It could be, of course – if it showed unconsensual activity, or it was clear the girl didn’t know she was being filmed – then it could be worth taking further.

However, if it was merely them mutually agreeing to tape something that was consensual and between adults and was perfectly legal, so what? Not ideal that it got released in public, but what does it prove – that athletes in college have sex? A travesty!

Without any knowledge of the context or prelude to the taping, my initial thought is “no big deal”. The world at large has probably seen more of Giselle Bundchen’s flesh overall, yet nobody’s wanting to cut TB.

Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.

by Comedic.Sans on Aug 31, 2010 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

The world at large has probably seen more of Giselle Bundchen’s flesh overal

i think pple want to see more lol

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by NinjaZX6R on Sep 1, 2010 1:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

The guy who tried to sell the tape to Deadspin

for $1500.00 is a real bottom feeder (so to speak).

Keep the faith!

by Marima on Sep 1, 2010 7:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

A person who sells someone else's obviously private sex-tape to a media outlet is a loser?

Say it aint so!

Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.

by Comedic.Sans on Sep 1, 2010 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

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