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Random Thoughts/Musings After Leigh Bodden News




Alright everyone, long time reader, first time poster here. I'm not intending this to be any kind of formal article or anything, just some of my thoughts. Hopefully it can maybe spark some discussion or something.

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I've been sensing a lot of, ableit somewhat justified, negativity after the news about the Pats moving Bodden to the Injured Reserve list. I honestly believe the Pats can survive this. Not saying it won't be a hit, I'm just trying to say there is still reason for cautioned optomism going into this new season.

One reason would be that the Pats have made it into the playoffs before with such an injury riddled CB corp that Troy Brown was playing corner. Now the Bodden injury has thrust two youngsters, one a rookie, into the spotlight. This is not an ideal situation. Butler was already projected to be a starter. However, McCourty was projected to be brought a long slowly, similar to Meriweather or Chung recently, and have limited playing time this season. Probably at most a nickel corner, and/or top outside reserve role. Key phrase there being at most. Now both Butler and McCourty have talent. I can see a situation here, where they hit their bumps in the road and have their growing pains but both grow into their roles as the season progresses. Similar to Matt Cassel the year Brady went down, they'll look better and better each week. Long term picture here, this could be good for the developement of both players, and could be good for the Patriots. If both are regarded as solid starting corners next year, with athleticism and upside, I'll be a happy camper. Heres to hoping they at least grow into that by seasons end.

Now my next reason is last years Miami Dolphins squad. They too had 2 youngsters pushed into starting roles. And albeit I didn't hear much news about them being phenomenal, the Dolphins were a competitive squad despite bigger issues than having 2 young starting corners. And I didn't really hear much about them stinking up the joint either. I guess no news is good news in that regard. But this is less about the Dolphins and more about the Patriots. The point is other teams have survived with 2 young starting corners recently.

Now my last point of optomism is Bill Belicheck himself. Honestly, some of you may read this, and think *cop out*. But let me back this up for a second. Last year I remember the Saints game when our D got absolutely torched. The next couple of weeks they faired better. There was a story up on Reiss' blog about how Bill adjusted the defense, and almost kind of simplified it for his younger players. The players responded favorably to that, and did better. Belicheck has a preseason game, and a lot of practices to try and tailor defense for the players he has now and going forward.

 

So I hope you guys enojoyed this little post here. The main premise would be that the sky is not falling, and there is reason for cautioned optomism. And I'd appreciate any comments, or feedback, definitely even constructive criticism. I didn't intend this to be any kind of analysis, or any real article or anything. But I was hoping I could throw some thoughts out there, and see if some of you agree or disagree.

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Sounds like a voice of reason.

I’ll Rec that !

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by SlotMachinePlayer on Sep 1, 2010 2:59 PM EDT reply actions  

As Tully Banta-Cain said yesterday

There’s no reason to press the panic button on the D just yet. He’s confident the guys on the roster can get it done and I like his outlook.

As to your Belichick point, it’s not a “cop out” if it’s true. The talk radio crowd – especially on 98.5 – love to hate on callers that ‘trust in Belichick’ and defer to his expertise even though we fans aren’t let in on the plan ahead of time. What’s wrong with that? It’s not saying the guy is infallible, but instead recognizing there’s a reason fans are listening to or calling into sports talk shows instead of actually coaching professional football players. Fans are fans, hosts are hosts and I’m fine with letting Bill do his job.

Sure he makes mistakes, and he’s the first to admit it when he does, but at least his mistakes are based on more intimate knowledge of his players’ strengths and weaknesses and those of the other teams in the league than anyone else has access to. And he’s done a pretty good job so far.

Keep the faith!

by Marima on Sep 1, 2010 3:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Just so long as TBC doesn't get another stupid personal foul, I'm happy with him.

But those fouls are where games can be won or lost.

For all the crap we give Wil Wheaton, he can still tackle better than Asante Samuel...
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Sep 1, 2010 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also consider the LB core

Without playing down’s in the NFL officially yet, Spikes and McKenzie have made this unit the strength of the D, before factoring in Cunningham at OLB.

Granted right now that is by default/injuries to Warren and Bodden but I believe this would have been realized by week 8 of the season without the injuries.

Having LBs that BB trusts and can work with allows from much more dynamic blitzes and schemes at the line. We’ve seen a bit of this in the first couple pre season games. More pressure and blitzing, and as they develop this will increase.

More pressure and blitzing will reduce the load on the DBs – though as nickel and dime packages come into play things might get more interesting. That 3 safety look is going to need to improve quickly.

by JonnyNYC on Sep 1, 2010 4:40 PM EDT reply actions  

That 3 safety look is going to need to improve quickly.

yeah…drastically

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by NinjaZX6R on Sep 1, 2010 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wonder if it's because the used that in Vanilla-mode

3 Safeties allows you to do a lot, usually – just think of Sharper during the Superbowl, creeping up to the line to make it look like a 3-4 or dropping back to give 3-3-5 looks. Yet the usual preseason thing is to not give away any secrets or unusual looks or interesting personnel packages or usages, so they had an awful-looking 3-3-5 that had vanilla coverage and vanilla pass-rush. Dial in a few Safety-blitzes or stunts or loops or fakes, and it might look really good.

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by Comedic.Sans on Sep 1, 2010 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sadly, vanilla coverage and vanilla pass rush

are only emphasized with a vanilla running game.

My hatred of Michigan knows no bounds. Even more so after this travesty.
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Sep 2, 2010 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with this thought

I think game 3 and tonight game 4 will both contain a lot of poker. Where BB will get people on the field in basic formations work out sub packages based on downs/distances etc but really keep the play calling within these packages basic.

In many respects getting the “base look” film is a great way to design blitz and coverage schemes moving forward.
It also could potentially lull a lot of teams into a false sense of security with the Pats D.

by JonnyNYC on Sep 2, 2010 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Im not going to lie

I wanted Bodden on the field, because Ochocinco has been talking that trash! But he is on IR.

SUXXXXXX

by businessbmw on Sep 1, 2010 7:49 PM EDT reply actions  

One of the many

things BB does better than most, is fix not just patch but FIX holes created by injury. Though usually it is with a seasoned veteran not a talented rookie.

Spokane WA only 2,266 miles from Foxboro MA

by PatsfanDan on Sep 2, 2010 10:29 PM EDT reply actions  

He'll be scanning the waiver wires after cuts, no doubt.

Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.

by Comedic.Sans on Sep 2, 2010 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Which genius move comes this year?

Aside from Spikes, Cunningham, and company?

Oh no, don't tell me Matt Barkley ALSO doesn't tie his shoes...
September 1st, 2010. A day that shall live in infamy.
"Because one of the great minds of the 21st century is raising glow-in-the-dark fish and weaving serapes..." -Leonard Hofstadter from The Big Bang Theory

by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Sep 3, 2010 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think picking up G. Warren was underrated

He’s got ideal size and physicality, and seems to be picking up the rather foreign 3-4 playbook pretty quickly. Losing Ty Warren is a blow, but thank the stars Hoodie picked up Gerard in the offseason.

Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.

by Comedic.Sans on Sep 3, 2010 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well...

He replaced one Warren with another.

Now, if he meant to do that, that’s uncanny.

Hey, Al Afalava is available at S.

Oh no, don't tell me Matt Barkley ALSO doesn't tie his shoes...
September 1st, 2010. A day that shall live in infamy.
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Sep 3, 2010 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thank you everyone

who commented, and read this little blurb of mine.

by UtopianAverage on Sep 7, 2010 12:04 PM EDT reply actions  

an excellent post to read

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by NinjaZX6R on Sep 7, 2010 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

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