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New England Patriots Game Plan: Cincinnati Bengals

It is often said by Patriots players current and past that Bill Belichick likes to give the team just a few things to focus on that they'll need to do in each game to be successful. Each week this season we'll bring you our own version of what we think the Pats need to do to win the game.

I'm not an NFL head coach, though I have won multiple Super Bowls and had multiple undefeated seasons in Madden, so this is meant to start discussion. What do you think they'll do? How will Cincinnati attack the Pats? Let's hear your thoughts too.

Our Patriots game plan for the Cincinnati  Bengals after the jump...

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The Bengals are a well balanced team who, on paper, appear to be one of the best opening day challenges the Patriots have had perhaps since 2004 when they faced the Colts week one. Chad Ochocinco and Terrell Owens speak for themselves, but rookie Tight End Jermaine Gresham and Jordan Shipley should see plenty of time as well. Cedric Benson was reborn in 2009 and is a big bruising back. 

On defense the Bengals should benefit from the return of Antwan Odom who was a force to be reckoned with in 2009 (cough - performance enhancing drugs) before going down with an achilles injury. Cornerbacks Jonathan Joseph and Leon Hall are both solid, and the linebacker corps should be see improvement from Rey Maualuga and Keith Rivers.

Overall the Bengals are a solid team top to bottom, built very similarly to the Miami Dolphins. As such I expect to see the Patriots attack them in a similar way.

The Bengals faded down the stretch in 2009. Part of it was due to injuries, the rest was due to the lack of receiving threats and an inability to threaten the deep part of the field after the tragic loss of Chris Henry. Another weakness was their offensive line's pass protection which did not give Carson Palmer enough time to deliver the deep ball.

The Bengals will have to choose which part of the Patriots defense to attack. Surely both the Pats young corners and their unproven defensive line has to be tempting. I think what we're most likely to see is the ground and pound in a similar style to how Baltimore attacked New England in the playoffs. 

The Bengals are a team that thrives with the lead. They have no problem relying on their defense to hold on for them, and their running game was designed to eat up clock.  So here's what I believe the Patriots must do to win the game.

1. Get an early lead

Usually I am a fan of deferring to the second half after winning the coin toss, but in games like this one it will be important to get our offense on the field first and put points on the board. The bigger the lead the Pats can get the more it will take the Bengals out of their game. Force them to pass the ball.

2. Stop Benson Early

The Bengals can absolutely not be allowed to establish their running game. I'd expect the Patriots to see the ground and pound coming and have Pat Chung in the box early and often. If the Bengals are able to move the ball on the ground it will eat up clock and prevent the Patriots offense from putting up the points their capable of. It will also open up the downfield passing attack. I would not be surprised to see the Patriots in their Big Nickel package a good deal, especially later in the game if they're able to get a lead. If the Bengals are throwing a lot it will be to the Patriots advantage. Shootouts will favor the team with better quarterback and receivers. The Patriots have both.

3. Play Smart Football

The Bengals will beat themselves if you let them. They had 78 offensive penalties in 2009. If the Patriots can play disciplined they should be able to gain an advantage. When you throw in all the personalities and TV shows, if you give the Bengals a reason to throw the towel in they likely will. The Patriots must be more physical and make every down a war, but do it cleanly and with controlled aggression.

4. Spread Em Out

The Bengals do have a solid defensive backfield, but not solid enough to cover the multiple threats the Patriots passing game has. I expect the Patriots to throw early and often, especially in the middle of the field to Aaron Hernandez, Rob Gronkowski, Wes Welker and Alge Crumpler. The Pats lacked threats outside of Randy Moss and Wes Welker in 2009, but this year I expect them to unveil a new diversified aerial attack from the opening drive. Moss and Tate can take Joseph and Hall out of the game, forcing players like Roy Williams out of their comfort zone. 

5. Win

In 2006 and 2007 the Patriots had big games against the Bengals, and both times they blew them out. Yes, both teams are entirely different now, but you can't argue that Belichick holds a distinct coaching advantage over Marvin Lewis. The Patriots are young on defense, no longer is a solid veteran defensive performance a given. But the Patriots will be a young, fast, and well coached team. You cannot discount that. If they can hold the Bengals to under 20 points the Patriots should have a very good chance at winning the game. It doesn't have to be pretty. They just have to get the job done.

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Circa 2007 Pats (Spread Offense Aerial Attack)
320 votes
TE at FB (Power Running Attack)
37 votes
Old Schoo Pats (2 WR/2 TE/1 RB Diversified Attack)
396 votes

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u need a D all of the above

cause thats what i hope they do all year long.

by brady12mvp3 on Sep 10, 2010 1:19 PM EDT reply actions  

It's going to depend on the D.

If they can’t stop the Bengals O, we’re going to see a much more aggressive, pass-oriented attack that’s focused on scoring TDs. If the D holds up relatively well, we’ll see a more balanced attack. If the D is stalwart (unlikely), we’ll see a more conservative, time-of-possession maximizing attack.

They’ll obviously come out and try to be balanced, but who knows what the situation will by halftime.

by nbradley07 on Sep 10, 2010 1:31 PM EDT reply actions  

well i think

the pats will be the colts…out score the other offense to win the game.
this yr’s offense will be better than last yr’s (5th in the nfl in 2009) but i believe this D will torched more so than last yr

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by NinjaZX6R on Sep 10, 2010 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

every team wants a early lead

once u get a sizable lead the opposing team becomes one dimensional and the defense gets better cause they can focus one one thing . the 2007 defense was perfect example where the offense made the defense look better then it really was.

by brady12mvp3 on Sep 10, 2010 1:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Yes, but I think some games it’s more important than others. Early lead against the Colts doesn’t really matter much.

by MikeDussault on Sep 10, 2010 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes and No.

An early lead means the other O becomes pass oriented. Based on last year, passing is the way to beat this team, because they can’t stop a pass play even when the KNOW it’s a pass play. The coverage, especially on the edges and over the middle, is terrible.

The best hope for this team is to keep the D OFF the field with long TD drives.

by nbradley07 on Sep 10, 2010 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t know, Flacco was 4 of 10 for 34 yards in the playoffs and they still killed us. Both run D and pass D have question marks. It’s a young defense but they did show signs of life last year, especially first half against the Colts. They will continue to improve. Run D on the other hand just comes down to winning the battles in the trenches and we’ll just have to see if all of the defensive front 7 can win those battles consistently. I know Wilfork will. Spikes looks to be hugely effective in the running game. Warren looked solid. Wright, LOLB vs. the run are the biggest questions spots for me. Bigger than any of the DBs.

by MikeDussault on Sep 10, 2010 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Interesting stuff. I have high hopes for our secondary, hopefully that will translate to better pressure this year. Speedwise there aren’t many secondarys who are faster than ours. As they get more experience they should really solidify into a great bunch. They’re all 1st and 2nd rounders, so they better!

by MikeDussault on Sep 10, 2010 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm very confident going forward.

Their athleticism is unmatched, as far as I can see. There’s no excuse for any of them getting burned or physically overpowered. The problem is, obviously, experience. With the first-half schedule they have, we may be in for some real shootouts. Luckily, the O can hang with the best of them, so I’m not overly worried (like some) that we’ll be sitting at 1-7 or 2-6, already a playoff afterthought, come November.

by nbradley07 on Sep 10, 2010 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

We had the same pass rushers in 2008 as 2007.

In 2008, though our secondary was porous. The pass rushers took around the same amount of time getting there, but the ball was already gone.

Even last year there were games where if we had coverage even half a second longer, they would have reached the QB.

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by SlotMachinePlayer on Sep 10, 2010 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's kind of ironic

because 3-4 years ago, everyone would tell you that Belichick didn’t care about DBs, and that LBs/DLs were more important. Having won Super Bowls with starting DBs like Randall Gay, Tebucky Jones, Eugene Eilson, a very young Asante Samuel, and a very old Otis Smith. But this belies the fact that he ALWAYS had at least SOME elite presence in the defensive backfield, whether it was Law, Milloy or Harrison. That presence, and the current lack thereof, is the difference between the Pats pass rush being effective and ineffective.

by nbradley07 on Sep 10, 2010 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes

improving the secondary will improve pass rush

a team needs 3 good CB’s … i’d feel good if bodden healthy

carson palmers game plan is to throw the ball to wilhite

wilhite got ability but will always seem to be 1 second or 1 yard to late

by prioris on Sep 10, 2010 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

So give him help over the top.

Whenever Palmer throws to him, either the Meriweather or…whoever else is right there to either disrupt the pass or pop the receiver to hard that he’ll never go over the middle again without hesitation.

by nbradley07 on Sep 10, 2010 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

they got to do something

only if wheatley wasn’t injured … the patriots would have more weapons

by prioris on Sep 10, 2010 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Belichick's D philosophy is:

Across the line (DEs, NTs) and up the gut (ILBs, Safeties). CBs and OLBs are down the tier of importance. Safeties > CBs in the Belichick scheme – which is why you have highly drafted Safties in Chung, Meriweather, Wilson, and vet free agent pickups like Harrison and Lynch.

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by Comedic.Sans on Sep 10, 2010 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well Butler’s a 2nd rounder, McCourty a first rounder… Samuel was a 4th rounder. Bodden, Springs = “vet free agent pickups.” So not sure about that!
In fact it used to be well known that BB never drafted LBs high. Ever. Linemen, sure, but not LBs.

by quadruple option on Sep 10, 2010 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

True, but those guys were multi-talented players

Butler, McCourty and even Wheatley all had significant values on special teams, too – as kick returners, and in McCourty’s case, as an all-round special teams stud. In other words, they weren’t ‘just’ selected as CBs, they were, as Hoodie described McCourty this year post-draft, “Four-down players”.

Put it this way – in no year of Hoodie’s coaching tenure in NE has there been a slack year in the Safety lineup. It went from Lawyer Milloy and Tebucky Jones to Rodney Harrison and Eugene Wilson to Brandon Meriweather and Patrick Chung, with cameos and test-runs of guys like John Lynch who couldn’t even make the roster. In comparison, the Pats have had some good CBs, but they’ve also had guys like Otis Smith and Tyrone Poole and Deltha O’Neal and Lewis Sanders manning the corner as starters at various points.

Hoodie has always traded/drafted aggressively to make sure the Safety spots are filled; not so much for the CB roles. Look at the current roster – I could 4 starting-quality Safeties at this moment; 5 if you look at the IR list, too. CB’s a useful spot to have good players in, but S is absolutely vital to the way Hoodie draws up the D.

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by Comedic.Sans on Sep 11, 2010 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Special teams are pretty much useless against teams with elite QB’s

Put manning, brady, drew brees on their own 7 yard line and see how quickly they dig themselves out of it.

although against teams like buffalo, special teams can be devastating

CB’s are way more important than special teams against elite QB’s

by prioris on Sep 11, 2010 3:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Special teams are pretty much useless against teams with elite QB’s

Eh? In the Superbowl, you had two elite QBs – Manning and Brees – who were so close in talent that the Saints coach, Sean Payton, wanted to take away one of Manning’s possessions in order to win. How? By calling for an onside kick. In other words, one of the best ways to make an elite QB useless is via clever use of special teams. It arguably won a Superbowl, too – putting Manning behind a possession and TD meant he had to play riskier, and threw a pick-6 on a pass that shouldn’t have happened.

Speaking of the Saints, that blocked extra-point this week against the Vikings could’ve been pretty important if the Vikings had managed a bit more of a comeback. Again, that’s another way for special teams to foil an elite QB (this time, Brett Favre) – blocking kicks.

Put manning, brady, drew brees on their own 7 yard line and see how quickly they dig themselves out of it.

I did that a couple of days ago – Brees vs. Favre. The Brees-QB’d Saints punted 5 times and missed 2 field goals. The Favre-QB’d Vikings punted 7 times and kicked one field goal. It doesn’t seem like a good week for QBs – and one where special teams are particularly heavily involved.

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by Comedic.Sans on Sep 11, 2010 4:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

i was going to qualify my remark with

special teams are great in situational part of game but overall it’s really up to the elite qb …

if the elite qb is having a poor day and the defense doesn’t compensate, USUALLY the special teams can’t do anything

what special teams can do is tip the balance …

as far as NO onside kick, rememebr that it probably took a very bad decision by favre – pass at the end of the game …

i would say the NO defense pounding favre an amazing 16 times during the game had the most significant effect of the entire game

NO offense blew away the other teams last year … the performance by special teams was moot in practically all those games

this year, count how many times opposing special teams truly effect the outcome of the game against the patriots

you can always point to a game here and there but i’m talking about overall

by prioris on Sep 11, 2010 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

as far as NO onside kick, rememebr that it probably took a very bad decision by favre – pass at the end of the game …

I meant the Superbowl.

The Bears got to the 2006 Superbowl on the back of special teams and Devin Hester. It certainly wasn’t Rex Grossman who got them there, haha.

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by Comedic.Sans on Sep 11, 2010 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

and if teams close in talent then the special teams may tip the balance

by prioris on Sep 11, 2010 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

lol...i'm on your boat
I’m not an NFL head coach, though I have won multiple Super Bowls and had multiple undefeated seasons in Madden

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by NinjaZX6R on Sep 10, 2010 2:12 PM EDT reply actions  

i had 20 straight undefeated season on Madden 03.

Freshman year of college. My math homework wasn’t as fun.

by nbradley07 on Sep 10, 2010 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

u did 20 yrs...wow

i could only do 4 yrs and then i got bored

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by NinjaZX6R on Sep 10, 2010 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

A friend of mine was determined to beat me.

We played a few games a day for a couple semesters. He never beat me, but I also had a team full of starters with 95+ ratings. When you trade all your draft picks for 1st rounders, sign them to 5 year deals, extend those deals by 5 more years in year 3, you end up with a ridiculous team.

That, and there are certain plays in the older versions of the game that are almost indefensible.

by nbradley07 on Sep 10, 2010 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maddon 97-11

WORST FOOTBALL GAMES EVER. Too bad EA knew it and convinced the NFL that they should be the only franchise with the rights and the NFL believed them. Bring back a real football game like Tecmo Bowl or even the NFL2K series.

Jeffrey M Melhorn

by 18-1 damn on Sep 10, 2010 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I really liked the earlier Maddens.

Around 2004-2005, it started getting WAY too complex, with all the different types of controls, spin moves, jukes, passing modes, pre-snap adjustments….it was just not possible to learn and use all the features.

I REALLY disliked Madden 2010 – awful mechanics, sloppy controls, crappy gameplay overall.

I heard that 2011 was supposed to get “back to basics,” but I have yet to play it.

by nbradley07 on Sep 10, 2010 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

i like it...10 was bad

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by NinjaZX6R on Sep 10, 2010 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I really dislikes the franchise mode in 10

It was confusing, difficult to navigate, had relatively few options.

by nbradley07 on Sep 10, 2010 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

wish they would add the training camp stuff into madden

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by NinjaZX6R on Sep 10, 2010 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

08 had it.

I don’t remember if others did or not. Little drills that let you add points to your player depending on how well you performed.

by nbradley07 on Sep 10, 2010 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

last year i downloaded almost all the top selling games in the last ten years from torrent but never got motivated to play them except for 5 minutes… one of these days … although i did read most of the programming books on video game engines etc …

madden game … i have assigned all football management responsibilities to BB and Kraft

by prioris on Sep 10, 2010 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

My record for scoring was in Madden 05

It was something like 170-3? I’m not joking either it was around there. lol I had Owens and Moss on my team, and I just threw deep passes. :P

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by patriotguy2 on Sep 10, 2010 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

5 minute quarters????

I’ve broken 100, but never 170.

by nbradley07 on Sep 10, 2010 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

what level do u play

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by NinjaZX6R on Sep 10, 2010 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've broken 100 with 5 minute quarters on All-Madden once or twice.

It comes to a point where, no matter what the difficult level, you know what plays work and what plays don’t.

I can easily break 100 on the regular levels (Pro is the lowest, I think?).

I can’t even imagine how you’d hit 170, unless your quarters were 10 or 15 minutes…and that would just be excruciating.

by nbradley07 on Sep 10, 2010 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

A steady diet of onside kick + play-action bombs?

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by Comedic.Sans on Sep 10, 2010 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep. And 2-point conversions. ;)

I kept getting them. lol

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

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by patriotguy2 on Sep 10, 2010 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

it was 5 minute quarters. I don't even think I knew how to change quarters due to me being around maybe 10 years old or something like that. lol

It was actually over 170. Reason why I know this was because I was joking around with Dave(my step dad who was next to me) about getting to 200. lol

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

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by patriotguy2 on Sep 10, 2010 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

5 minute quarters, on all-pro I believe.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Sep 10, 2010 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have never been beat in SNES Mario Kart battle mode or race mode no lie. Hours of Madden too! LOL

Pats – the defense isn’t as bad as it looked in the preseason although I have my doubts. Special teams should be good as well.

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by Yardpenalty.com on Sep 10, 2010 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

ST doesn't get enough love.

This is the unit that could make ALL the difference for the Pats this season. If they’re regularly playing a short field on O and consistently pinning opponents inside 20, they will have success even with a shaky D. Even the best offenses aren’t going to consistently drive 80+ yards on them on every drive.

by nbradley07 on Sep 10, 2010 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hoodie gives it love

McCourty, Butler, Chung, Wheatley, Slater, Mesko, Gostkowski, and Tate all owe their drafting to NE at least in part to the special teams ability. Ninkovich, Arrington, Aiken, Murrell all owed their free agent signings to Belichick recognising their special teams talents. Love, Fletcher, Guyton, Alexander, Pierre Woods, and Slater all survived cuts of higher-drafted guys in their positions because they were special teams contributors.

Hoodie doesn’t forget the third unit.

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by Comedic.Sans on Sep 10, 2010 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I still occasionally play madden 07 where i’m on like the 2026 Patriots. Somehow Gostkowski is still my kicker. I think he’s like in his mid 40s. It’s exciting when you get one of those games when suddenly the computer is awesome and it’s actually challenging. Usually I just develop awesome players then trade them in the division to try and make it interesting. Doesn’t really work all that well. Might be finally time to upgrade to a new system/modern madden.

by MikeDussault on Sep 10, 2010 2:26 PM EDT reply actions  

did you turn off the salary cap

i had to bc i had to pay mankins and wilfork big money in 10.

do the same thing now in madden 11
and every yr i give brady the highest contract…beat that mr kraft

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by NinjaZX6R on Sep 10, 2010 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

No way, I’m a cheap virtual bastard. If anyone held out they got traded to the worst team in the league for their first overall pick.

by MikeDussault on Sep 10, 2010 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

run defense

When I look at the Patriot’s run defense, to me they look strongest at the triangle of Wilfork, Mayo & Spikes in the middle.

That suggests that they should matchup better against power backs like Benson than, say fast scat backs that can beat them around the edges (the Darren Sproles-types).

Spikes is going to make a big difference here. He has the same sort of nose for finding the ball carrier in the high-traffic zone that Bruschi did, but he’s bigger.

But we don’t have great run-containment OLBs (they aren’t bad, just not great) and without Bodden out there, I’m leary of using our young secondary too much for run support until they really have more experience at disguising and rotating.

I predict we will be soft on the edges and have a lot of games where we give up a frustrating amount of yards in between the 20s. But in the red-zone, that problem shrinks with the field as your corners come into run protection without leaving coverage. We should still be an elite defense at preventing points, which is where it counts.

by mmmmm on Sep 10, 2010 4:34 PM EDT reply actions  

yeah

outside edges will be suspect

pass defense will be tentative and a little porous

your right, inside the 20, the patriots defense should be stronger

whether the patriots win i can’t say but i think they will get stronger

if they got to win a game, winning against the jets is more important

by prioris on Sep 10, 2010 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Based on what Welker said in my conversation with him tuesday

I would expect some sort of power running attack. He made it clear that running the ball was going to be a priority against the Bengals.

by Greg Knopping on Sep 10, 2010 5:25 PM EDT reply actions  

they will say that but ...

first series of downs

1st down morris for 2 yards
2nd down morris for 1 yards
3rd down morris for 3 yards
punt

1st down morris for 1 yards
2nd down morris for 4 yards
3rd down morris for 4 yards
punt

1st down morris for 2 yards
2nd down morris for 2 yards
3rd down morris for 3 yards
punt

they will abandon it fast

patriots would be a little stronger in run game with mankins

maybe crumpler and gronkowski make some holes

by prioris on Sep 10, 2010 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mixing in slot screens as a dimension of the run game

was the reason the ‘01 and ’02 teams succeeded. This team has superb slot receivers [Welker, Edelman, Hernandez]. All three should see three screens per game. That will open up the run attack because the LB’s will be forced to shade more to the outside [slot side].

by couchpotato on Sep 10, 2010 9:44 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm most interested in our lines,

Can we keep pressure off Tom, can we hold at the line on D and stop the run. These are my biggest questions, and I think the most important in determining our success this season. Of course, with an eye on our young CB’s. I expect them to get burnt once or twice, but to hope they learn and adjust quickly.

by furiousd on Sep 10, 2010 9:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Well, you stop them coming full tilt against the passer by running at them, dontcha?
The question is do you run off tackle or up the guts? I dont think any of our backs have the gas to turn the corner which means a lot of runs inside and outside the guards.

Maybe Bill’s been reading the Navy playbook and he’s going to come out with Welker and Maroney as slotbacks and let Brady run the ol’ triple option?

by quadruple option on Sep 10, 2010 11:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Excellent analysis

I agree with the vast majority of what you wrote. The only thing I don’t like is including television shows having any impact on a game. But I understand.

It will be difficult to be more physical than the Bengals. Cincinnati is not that fast, or immensely talented, but they are a tough bunch who are physically strong and play with a mean streak. It’s true they rack up a ton of penalties, but I don’t think they can be pushed around too much.

This game should be close and will be a good measuring stick for both teams, but alas, I’m sticking with my Who-Deys. Here is a link to our side of the coin: http://www.cincyjungle.com/2010/9/10/1680523/week-1-preview-live-ammunition

Best of luck this season and may the best team win tomorrow.

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by Mojokong on Sep 11, 2010 1:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Likewise

Good to see some of you people over this way; good luck for the season.

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by Comedic.Sans on Sep 11, 2010 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

And just from going over that thread...

Ty Warren’s been replaced by Gerard Warren, and G. Warren has looked fairly good – that loss hasn’t been as bad as it could’ve been.

Also, don’t sleep on the effect Brandon Spikes will have on the D, especially in run-stopping. He’s a big unit (6’3", 250lbs), is very instinctive, and is strong enough to shed blocks from inside O-linemen. Spikes will both improve the D by being a good player in the right position (Strong ILB, where he can shed blocks and make tackles), and also allowing Mayo to be a great player in his more natural position of weakside ILB. Mayo won DROY as weakside ILB, but in 2009 he had to play SILB and was a little lost in traffic, where his athleticism and smaller size counted against him. Spikes is both a natural fit for SILB and frees up Mayo to be a great WILB. It’s a two-fer pickup.

Finally, Pat Chung is a new starter at SS – and he’s a Strong Safety in the mould of Rodney Harrison and Lawyer Milloy. He can blitz, cover, and run-stuff, and that versatility is exactly what Belichick wants in his SS, especially when Hoodie gives them a roving commission to create matchup issues.

Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.

by Comedic.Sans on Sep 11, 2010 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

are we going to do the

ask a patriot post on their website?

Non Sibi Sed Patriae.
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Hang on sloopy, sloopy hang on.. O H I O

by NinjaZX6R on Sep 11, 2010 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

A little late for that now...

but it would have been a good idea. Don’t know if it will work for next week’s game against the Jets either because too many of their posters have had a very difficult time keeping the comments civil in the past.

Keep the faith!

by Marima on Sep 11, 2010 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don’t know if it will work for next week’s game against the Jets either because too many of their posters have had a very difficult time keeping the comments civil in the past.

I don’t know if that’ll work because I don’t know how many Jets fans can, well, read.

Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.

by Comedic.Sans on Sep 11, 2010 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

i would skip the jest

Non Sibi Sed Patriae.
I love my ZX-6r Kawasaki.
I bleed Scarlet and Grey...A Buckeye for Life
Hang on sloopy, sloopy hang on.. O H I O

by NinjaZX6R on Sep 11, 2010 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Key question: if our defensive strategy involves calling the cops because all the guys on your team with electronic anklets are breaching their parole, will we win by 50 or 200?

by quadruple option on Sep 12, 2010 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Win by default

I think there are rules that the other team has to field 45 guys on game-day.

Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.

by Comedic.Sans on Sep 12, 2010 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

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