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Patriots vs Bengals: 7 Things Reviewed

1. Patriots Secondary vs Bengals Receivers. Well, hooray! Devin McCourty showed why he was a first round pick and shut down his side of the field for most of the day. Darius Butler did well on his side of the field and showed his strong tackling skills. Hell, even Jonathan Wilhite contributed well in the slot. Pat Chung knocked some players on their behind and the overall play of the other safeties was solid. Overall, a thumbs up for this absurdly young secondary. Palmer definitely picked up plenty of garbage time yards (51 at the end of the first half), and the prevent defense that was utilized at the beginning of the second half (!!??) padded the stats of the Bengals.

2. Patriots Defensive 7 vs Bengals Running Game. Oh boy. The defensive front seven held Cedric Benson to a 2.9 yards/carry and definitely held up their end of the bargain. However, the main worry was how the Bengals would attack and succeed against the Patriots RDE position- and the Bengals definitely attacked that side of the defense. All of Benson's big gains were to that side, which means the Patriots need to improve the RDE position against the run. Mike Wright does a fantastic job against the pass, but he's a one gap defensive end and isn't much help against the run.

3. Patriots Linebackers vs Bengals Offensive Line. Jerod Mayo showed how well he plays when he's next to a legitimate starter and had a stellar performance. Brandon Spikes had a great "welcome to the NFL" game, but his role seemed pretty vanilla in the defense. Gary Guyton did stellar coming off the bench and made a big play to help win the game. However, one running play at Guyton for 7 yards, after Guyton engaged contact 2 yards after the line of scrimmage, showed why he's not big enough to be an every down ILB. Most plays for the ILBs seemed to be in the middle of the field, which means that they never really engaged with the Bengals' offensive line.

The outside linebackers, however, had a great day. For all the grief I gave about Tully Banta-Cain, I'm starting to like him more and more. He was great at stopping the run and was a nuisance for Carson Palmer all day. Rob Ninkovich showed that he has some untapped potential and should have a career season.

Final Things to Review After the Jump!

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4. Patriots Receivers vs Bengals Secondary. Five Patriots receivers had plays for over ten yards. The Patriots definitely had waaaay too many weapons for the Bengals to cover- and no team has anyone who can cover a big tight end like Rob Gronkowski. Wes Welker was a superhero and Randy Moss showed his versatility by catching the ball all over the field. The Bengals secondary is the second best backfield the Patriots will play all season- and the Patriots passed the exam with flying colors.

5. Patriots Running Backs vs Themselves. Kevin Faulk scared everyone with two big drops early on in the game to stall drives- but he redeemed himself as the game progressed. Fred Taylor had one of his best games in a Patriots uniform. The Patriots used the running backs early, but they focused on the same scheme they used in preseason- they used one running back to feature all game. Taylor got into a groove and did well enough to keep the defense honest.

6. 2010 Bill O'Brien vs 2009 Bill O'Brien. The Patriots play calling in the first half was tremendous and they only had two real drives in the second half- one that was stalled by a Dan Koppen holding penalty and one that resulted in a touchdown. He has definitely improved as a play caller with a more diverse playbook and more explosive weapons. Hopefully, O'Brien can continue his great play calling for the duration of the season.

7. Patriots Offensive Line vs ?????.

Will the Patriots miss Logan Mankins? I couldn't tell any difference.

Can Matt Light revert to his pre-2009 form? As of now, YES.

Can Sebastian Vollmer have another fantastic year? Looks like he's ready for one.

Can Dan Koppen stop the defense up the middle? He's mediocre at best. Called for that holding penalty and was facing the weak Bengals defensive tackles. I don't think he can hold against better competition.

Can Stephen Neal stay healthy? Nope. He hobbled off the field and was replaced by Ryan Wendell for a part of the game.

Can Dan Connolly fill Mankins' vacated shoes? From what I saw, he did a fantastic job. High five for Dante Scarneccia and his incredible coaching skill.

 

Extra Credit:

I'm still not a fan of using the prevent defense with so much of the game remaining. It allows the opposition to get into a rhythm and back into the game- and with two quarters to get into a groove, with that type of talent? Not a good call.

Looking at the new players from the past two years thrust into a starting role: Aaron Hernandez. Rob Gronkowski. Pat Chung. Devin McCourty. Darius Butler. Brandon Spikes. Gerard Warren. Fred Taylor. Dan Connolly. Sebastian Vollmer. Brandon Tate. Rob Ninkovich. Tully Banta-Cain. Myron Pryor. What do all of these players have in common? They were all added in the past two seasons and all had tremendous games.

Speaking of these players, how great do the past two drafts look? Chung, Ron Brace, Butler, Vollmer, Tate, Pryor, Jake Ingram, McCourty, Gronkowski, Jermaine Cunningham, Spikes, Hernandez, Zoltan Mesko. I'm excited about this team's future.

Special Teams? Holy cow. Great on kickoff coverage, great on returns. This unit looks fantastic.

 

Overall, a great first game. Here's to a great season!

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You said it all. rec'd.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

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by patriotguy2 on Sep 12, 2010 8:14 PM EDT reply actions  

shawn crable didn’t play either

he’ll be secret weapon :-)

by prioris on Sep 12, 2010 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can't help but giggle.

:)

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Sep 12, 2010 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes, highly classified

by prioris on Sep 12, 2010 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

patriot governmental project.

if that makes any sense. lol

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Sep 12, 2010 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Man, I was proud of our kid-corners today.

Thought they did very well against two of the best WRs in the game and one of the best QBs.

Offensive playcalling pretty ok, but I feel like they should have called more runs in the redzone. I think they’re fully capable and they need to illustrate that to themselves.

As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead

by JohnHannahRules on Sep 12, 2010 8:29 PM EDT reply actions  

As long as it isn't a FB dive in a two-back set by Sammy Morris...

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by Comedic.Sans on Sep 12, 2010 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

OK

But how about Morris as a blocker? He looked like a truck on that great run by taylor.

I like was BO’B is doing to get a 6th blocker involved — motioning TE’s to the middle of the line (Crumpler had a sweet block up the gut a couple of times); using Morris or BJGE to lead — I believe RB’s do best when they can cut off of a leader.

As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead

by JohnHannahRules on Sep 12, 2010 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like morris as a blocker

but I can’t help but shake the feeling that our OL was also excellent at Run Blocking today, and they were also run blocking a DL that was tackling horribly.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Sep 12, 2010 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't mind him as a blocker, especially with TEs in, too

But that whole “Morris and Maroney in, hand to Morris, Maroney left standing doing nada” annoyed me last year. It’s basically 10-vs-11 automatically, because Maroney’s doing nothing.

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by Comedic.Sans on Sep 12, 2010 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah --

that only works if LM is a credible threat on the toss sweep, and he never established that that might be the case.

As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead

by JohnHannahRules on Sep 12, 2010 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or if the play was always drawn up for the HB to do nothing, have Faulk in there

Even by putting Faulk in, you make the D at least consider it being a screen-pass or swing-pass or a direct snap or a draw.

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by Comedic.Sans on Sep 12, 2010 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Did the 3rd pre-season game roll over? lol

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Sep 12, 2010 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Game on, eh?

As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead

by JohnHannahRules on Sep 12, 2010 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought...

…that they wanted to play with their receiving weapons early on, especially with the game out of hand by the end of the first quarter. But I agree, they need to use their running backs more in the red zone, even if just to open up lanes for receivers.

by Richard Hill on Sep 12, 2010 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

In other news...

…that hollow “boom” from the center of the country you heard was BBS’s head imploding. I think it’s going to take a while to find all the pieces…

As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead

by JohnHannahRules on Sep 12, 2010 8:33 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

I think it’s going to take a while to find all the pieces…

all the King’s horses and all the King’s men…

Luckily, there isn’t much stuff on the inside to worry about. He vented it all shouting about how evil Gonzalez is.

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by Comedic.Sans on Sep 12, 2010 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lot of drops?

BBS actually banned people seemingly for pointing out that Garcon’s catching rate is only around 50% of targeted passes.

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by Comedic.Sans on Sep 12, 2010 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I might have a look over there just to see if he's flipping out.

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by Comedic.Sans on Sep 12, 2010 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

i checked...he hasn't posted anything after the game except for a game thread for the other games

you should expect a rant on monday

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by NinjaZX6R on Sep 12, 2010 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

he lives in NY

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by NinjaZX6R on Sep 12, 2010 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't bother me with details.

As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead

by JohnHannahRules on Sep 12, 2010 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

you have history w. him?

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by NinjaZX6R on Sep 12, 2010 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Naw -- just the one everyone on SBN does.

As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead

by JohnHannahRules on Sep 12, 2010 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

You're totally banned from there, now...

Dissent will not be tolerated.

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by Comedic.Sans on Sep 12, 2010 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

poll about bbs

http://www.battleredblog.com/2010/9/10/1682026/afc-south-bbs-poll-just-for-fun

heard that be banned 2 of their writers last season

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I bleed Scarlet and Grey...A Buckeye for Life
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by NinjaZX6R on Sep 12, 2010 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hahahahaha

WTF?

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by Comedic.Sans on Sep 12, 2010 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

colts and texans fans hate each other

but their hatred of bbs has brought them together…go figure lol

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by NinjaZX6R on Sep 12, 2010 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh!

For a second I thought you meant BigBlueShoe banned his own writers… and I actually thought it could plausibly happen.

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by Comedic.Sans on Sep 12, 2010 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

well...that is kinda true

he stripped one writer/moderator of his powers but didn’t ban him….yeah last yr he banned 2 writers from the texans blog

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by NinjaZX6R on Sep 12, 2010 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

who's bbs?

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Sep 12, 2010 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

big blue shoe

head writer for the colts

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by NinjaZX6R on Sep 12, 2010 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ah.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Sep 12, 2010 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just call him BigBS

My life has been a trivial pursuit. Trivia: where three roads meet.
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.

by SlotMachinePlayer on Sep 14, 2010 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's the Al Davis of Stampede Blue.

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by Comedic.Sans on Sep 13, 2010 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

recd.... your no 6

that was evident when Brady and O’Brien had a “moment” after Gronk’s td

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by NinjaZX6R on Sep 12, 2010 8:46 PM EDT reply actions  

RDE

>Mike Wright does a fantastic job against the pass, but he’s a one gap defensive end and isn’t much help against the run.

who was his backup

by prioris on Sep 12, 2010 8:52 PM EDT reply actions  

I can see Pryor or Brace getting some reps there.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Sep 12, 2010 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was usually Pryor...

…but they used the- Warren – Pryor – Wilfork line a couple times.

I hope to see the Warren – Pryor – Wilfork line more. I’d take Pryor at NT over Wright/Pryor at RDE any day.

by Richard Hill on Sep 12, 2010 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

on pryor as the NT

i like to see that on passing downs.

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by NinjaZX6R on Sep 12, 2010 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Any one see 85 walk up to Bill and slap his butt

thats was funny BB didnt know what to do, but shruged it off.

by Patsfan4life on Sep 12, 2010 8:57 PM EDT reply actions  

yeah I saw that

Hilarious! Bill was in “game mode” and couldn’t process the non-football activity that just occurred. We were laughing pretty hard at it though

Keep the faith!

by Marima on Sep 12, 2010 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

couldn’t process the non-football activity that just occurred.

Exactly! I got a good chuckle out of the whole thing — and it just reaffirmed my appreciation for 85. Dude just loves what he does.

As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead

by JohnHannahRules on Sep 12, 2010 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

dieon sanders's new pay the man title for the 2010 season is randy moss

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by NinjaZX6R on Sep 12, 2010 9:12 PM EDT reply actions  

I know that it is not likely to happen...

But I almost wish that the Patriots would pay Randy Moss- try to make a deal that would make both sides happy. I understand wanting to wait and see, but replacing Moss on the field is not going to be an easy thing, and making a deal sooner rather than later will spare us all of the contract garbage that is sure to follow Moss around like stink on crap this season.

by dannijd on Sep 13, 2010 1:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Cunningham

He didn’t make any huge plays or sacks or anything, but the kid was FLYING off the edge today. He definitely has by far the most pass-rushing potential on the team, and I wouldn’t be surprised if he played his way into a starting role by the end of the year, or at least seriously push Ninkovich for playing time.

by wildcat61 on Sep 12, 2010 9:28 PM EDT reply actions  

My guy Koa Misi got a sack for the 'Phins :(

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by Comedic.Sans on Sep 12, 2010 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

:(

Ron Brace got a tackle for a loss, if that means anything?

But I’ll take McCourty/Gronkowski over Misi as of now.

by Richard Hill on Sep 12, 2010 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was thinking Misi vs. Cunningham.

I wonder if the pick they used on Cunningham + that third rounder they traded to Carolina would’ve been enough to move up to take Misi where he was taken.

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by Comedic.Sans on Sep 12, 2010 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

That would have been sweet...

…but with Matt Moore out with a concussion, the Panthers are looking to Jimmy Clausen, which means that the second round pick could be towards the beginning of the 2nd round- and I’ll take that any day, especially with how absurdly deep this next draft is at every position the Patriots have a need in.

by Richard Hill on Sep 12, 2010 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

True, of course

And of course Cunningham could always turn out to be superior to Misi. I just hate reports of Odrick and Misi being great in D together on their opening starts. Hah.

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by Comedic.Sans on Sep 12, 2010 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pats have always done best when they have 3+ starting-quality OLBs

It’s been a while since McGinest-Colvin-Vrabel-TBC gave QBs nightmares as a package.

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by Comedic.Sans on Sep 12, 2010 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

i suspect that might be the case

he has lots of potential

but you want solid substitution also

by prioris on Sep 12, 2010 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

What a snore

this Dallas/DC game is. Nobody has any juice.

As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead

by JohnHannahRules on Sep 12, 2010 9:48 PM EDT reply actions  

that was an amazing end to the half

go figure! skins are up 10-0 over dallas

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by NinjaZX6R on Sep 12, 2010 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hahahaha!

DeAngelo Hall is great when he’s in the right scheme.

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by Comedic.Sans on Sep 12, 2010 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's Romo...

This is the guy who was holding a joint party for Jessica Simpson’s 30th birthday party and broke up with her, via text message, the day before her birthday.

Good decisions, he does not make.

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by Comedic.Sans on Sep 12, 2010 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

i am pretty sure simpson has a personality similar to madonna and tyra banks … sociopath

so i doubt there was any real relationship to break up

by prioris on Sep 12, 2010 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol

what an a**hole….at least do it 2-3 days after her b-day

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by NinjaZX6R on Sep 12, 2010 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

She cancelled her own 30th bday party because of it

And he left it so late that everyone had flown to Texas to be there, so it was super-awkward for all involved.

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by Comedic.Sans on Sep 12, 2010 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

then he moved to another chick

who isn’t that smart either

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by NinjaZX6R on Sep 12, 2010 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Romo doesn't seem like the sharpest knife in the drawer...

“Backhanded shovel-pass to a WR in tight coverage by a Pro Bowl CB with 6 seconds left in the half? What could go wrong?!”

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by Comedic.Sans on Sep 12, 2010 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Uhhh...everything?

Proud supporter of a New York baseball team and a Boston football team. Yeah, deal with it!

by R_Adragna on Sep 13, 2010 1:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

DeAngelo Hall would disagree...

but that’s only because he stripped the guy he was covering and then raced away for a last-second-of-the-half TD.

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by Comedic.Sans on Sep 13, 2010 3:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Tony Romo is prone to brain explosions at crucial times, a la Brett Favre

All you have to do is catch the snap, Tony… all you have to do is let the clock run out, Tony…

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by Comedic.Sans on Sep 12, 2010 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

How good is next years draft lookin!

The raiders looked like the same old raiders today and that’s a great sign. If we can get some good use of these four first and second rounders (which undoubtedly be traded up and down and all around) to go along with these last two draft classes, man are we set.

by beantownboy171 on Sep 12, 2010 10:12 PM EDT reply actions  

i want to take some d lineme n and some lbs and some o linemen

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by NinjaZX6R on Sep 12, 2010 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

How about a nice OLB?

I’m with you on the big uglies, tho. We need a young DE or two, a new stud center, a blue-chip OT and a serviceable guard.

As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead

by JohnHannahRules on Sep 12, 2010 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

yep

d lineman w. the raiders pick
OL- w. our 1st pick
OLB w. the 2nd pick from the panthers
G- w. our 2nd pick

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by NinjaZX6R on Sep 12, 2010 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good Centers are available in the third, quite often

So you could feasibly put together a draft of 4 or 5 immediate starters or eventual end-of-season starters.

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by Comedic.Sans on Sep 12, 2010 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

4 First Round Picks:

I say we use the Raiders’ first, trade our first rounder down and pick up a couple seconds and a third.

1st Rounder: Top 10 – DE
2nd Rounder: Top 10 – OT
2nd Rounder: Top 10 – OLB
2nd Rounder: Mid Round – RB
2nd Rounder: End Round – C

Something like that.

by Richard Hill on Sep 12, 2010 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

nice idea

4 2nd rd picks out of 32…wow

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by NinjaZX6R on Sep 12, 2010 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

There's a huge bunch of 3-4 guys

6’5-6’6" 300lb DEs and 6’4-6’5", 250lb OLB types. It’s stacked!

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by Comedic.Sans on Sep 12, 2010 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Did anyone see Cameron Heyward's interception against Miami?

The way he ran, he could be a 6’5 300 lb OLB!

I jest, but seriously, that guy has absurd athleticism for his size. Hopefully the raiders keep losing so we can get him or Quinn.

by wildcat61 on Sep 12, 2010 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

he looked like his daddy

iron head heyward…too bad he didn’t score…it was an amazing play cause you rarely see 3-4 DE’s drop into coverage

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by NinjaZX6R on Sep 12, 2010 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hoodie loves guys with football heritage - Matt Slater being one.

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by Comedic.Sans on Sep 12, 2010 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

who is his dad?

Parcells drafted bobby carpenter bc his dad played for the giants in the 80’s….though i guess it was a bad move

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by NinjaZX6R on Sep 12, 2010 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jackie Slater

A giant of the offensive line. He played forEVER — 20 years, all with the Rams. Put that with high school and college, and that nearly three decades. Insane. And he was good, too — 7xs in the Pro Bowl, IIRC.

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by JohnHannahRules on Sep 12, 2010 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hall of Famer OT Jackie Slater

Played 20 seasons for the Rams (19 in LA, one in Saint Louis) – 7 time Pro Bowler, 3 time first-team All Pro, 2 time second-team All Pro.

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by Comedic.Sans on Sep 12, 2010 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

btw he plays 3-4DE, 4-3DE,4-3DT

and he was held a lot in the game

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by NinjaZX6R on Sep 12, 2010 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is it all gap-shooting, or is he engaging blocks?

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by Comedic.Sans on Sep 12, 2010 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

when he lines up

in a 3-4 he engages blocks,
in a 4-3 dt, he shoots gaps

but for the most part, i’ve seen him take on blocks and push them away to get to the qb/rb

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by NinjaZX6R on Sep 12, 2010 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm sure Hoodie's taking notes on him, then

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by Comedic.Sans on Sep 12, 2010 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

imo

he is resemblances seymour …also unlike our current de’…he doesn’t look like he has that much body fat or a pouch

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by NinjaZX6R on Sep 12, 2010 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

If Randy Moss is leaving...

How about the best receiver they can get to replace him?

by dannijd on Sep 13, 2010 1:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

The most attractive name in the 2011 FA receivers list (outside of Moss) is Miles Austin.

But knowing Belichick, he’ll likely won’t go after him and I’m almost certain Jerry Jones is working his ass off to keep him in Dallas. Other than that, Steve Breaston is a nice fall-back option.

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by R_Adragna on Sep 13, 2010 1:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Houshmanzadah is free agent next year no? Or did he sign a deal?

Also I think Chad Johnson(ocho cinco) is a free agent next year as well.

However, I think Tate can also become our downfield threat of tomorrow. Have I told you he reminds me of Reggie Wayne?

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Sep 13, 2010 1:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

he is a slot wr...no need for us

we could trade mankins for vincent jackson

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by NinjaZX6R on Sep 13, 2010 1:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

i think miles austin just signed 57 million dollar deal

by prioris on Sep 13, 2010 1:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

I stand corrected.

Austin is now taken.

Vincent Jackson or Steve Breaston seem like really nice options for us to run with.

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by R_Adragna on Sep 13, 2010 2:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

This guy?

If so, I can run with that.

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by R_Adragna on Sep 13, 2010 2:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Miles Austin signed a 6 year deal the same day as Brady.

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by Comedic.Sans on Sep 13, 2010 3:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

no idea who to root for nxt week giants or colts

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by NinjaZX6R on Sep 12, 2010 10:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Eli

I want to see BBS explode.

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by Comedic.Sans on Sep 12, 2010 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Please do not ban me...

Colts… I was raised an Eagles fan… that plus a game that shalt not be named insure that I will never EVER root for the Giants.

by dannijd on Sep 13, 2010 1:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

>I was raised an Eagles fan

so your parents were satanic

just repeat “Go Pats” over and over and ye shall be saved

by prioris on Sep 13, 2010 1:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Outside of a fraction of the 2nd half, I'd say this game was a success.

Brady did what Brady does best—lead to win. Welker was a huge presence, the rookies Gronk and Hernandez played admirably in their roles, the defense stifled the Bengals for the most part, and Special Teams was dynamic.

Can we expect more of the same next week? Against the Jets, I sure as hell hope we can.

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by R_Adragna on Sep 13, 2010 12:03 AM EDT reply actions  

Agreed

I was very unhappy that the defense went prevent in the second half— the only thing that defense does is prevent one from winning. Play to win the game— not to “not lose” it!

I was so glad to see Welker back and playing well- while I did not see the whole game, from what I saw, he was moving well- if I did not know he was coming back from the knee injury, I wouldn’t know- and that is the ultimate test of a comeback.

I hope so too— GO PATS!

by dannijd on Sep 13, 2010 1:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Didn't get to see the game, but I'm happy to see the team was rolling on all cylinders

So much good young talent on this team…I hope they can develop into another dynasty-worthy unit in the next couple of years.

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