The Enigma that is Laurence Maroney
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e·nig·ma
noun, plural -mas, -ma·ta1. a puzzling or inexplicable occurrence or situation: His disappearance is an enigma that has given rise to much speculation.
2. a person of puzzling or contradictory character: To me he has always been an enigma, one minute completelyinsensitive, the next moved to tears.
Seems like a lot of back and forth chatter about LoMo today. So I figure - Lets do a Poll!
To me, Laurence Maroney = Enigma.
The man who said he could do this, but never rushed for 1k yards in any season.
He led the Pats in rushing 2 of his 4 years in New England, but never played a full 16 game schedule.
He flashed brilliance in many runs, only to fumble, dance or squander others.
He seemed like every thing you could want in a feature back, strong, fast powerful - but rarely put the whole package together on the field
Statistically, you can show he was productive for New England, but I think the issue in most of the conversations is, was productive enough:
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I'm somewhere between neutral and good selection
If he’d either had one more productive season while under contract, or he’d emerged as a bit more of an all-round back for the seasons he did play, then I’d have bumped him up to ‘Good’. But he was never quite healthy enough or an all-round player enough to earn it. At least Bryan Westbrook did everything the few times he was 100% healthy.
Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.
Wilfork is a steel at 21
He was a top 10 pick most of the year who had no business being available at 21.
Maroney, like many skill players taken in the first round is a much greater risk then a lineman, and I’m not going to argue his value as a 21st selection, though I don’t think that is as relevant as the value he provided the pats.
Maroney's best --
ever and forever, since he was a tot, has come when he could follow a lead back. If Denver gives him a fullback (they won’t) he’ll be lights out.
AFC Championship game, Golden Gophers — his best comes with a fullback. If you do that, you have a potential star in the mold of Emmitt Smith with better breakaway speed. If you don’t, well, we know what you have.
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by JohnHannahRules on Sep 17, 2010 9:04 AM EDT reply actions
That could be true.
I suppose we will never know. You would think BB would have known that when he drafted him.
Bob Kraft describing the first time he met Tom Brady: "He looked me in the eye and added, 'I'm the best decision this organization has ever made."
by BabeParilli on Sep 17, 2010 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Wasn't Maroney at his best
when the Pats had Heath Evans? Just a thought.
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Sep 17, 2010 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions
And he was brought in to replace Corey Dillon - a guy who ran behind a FB quite often
Dillon being a power back in NE who often ran behind Patrick Pass in a two-back set. Maroney was seen as the natural inheritor of the Dillon running system, but with Weiss leaving, the Pats moved more into a spread O with McDaniels’s pass-first philosophy. A back like Maroney, who’d suit either a two-back power run game or a Shanahan zone-blocking system, didn’t quite match up so well as a single back in a 1TE or 4WR set.
Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.
by Comedic.Sans on Sep 17, 2010 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Going back a little further
Antowain Smith always ran better behind a fullback as well
I really wish we had a true one, gotta love the mentality of that position.
by Greg Knopping on Sep 18, 2010 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions
If you go by stats
he looked decent. But actually watching him and seeing him do what he did when he did it; he was an extreme disappointment.
Bob Kraft describing the first time he met Tom Brady: "He looked me in the eye and added, 'I'm the best decision this organization has ever made."
by BabeParilli on Sep 17, 2010 12:14 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I read this yesterday in Mark Farinella's column in the Sun Chronicle
and it’s the first time I’ve heard anything like this about Maroney, but I wonder if this played into the trade:
Personally, I’m amazed that Bill Belichick had as much patience with Maroney as he did. There are a few media members who are probably crying in their Maypo this morning over the departure of the first-round pick from Minnesota because they had access to him and he made them laugh with his cutesy comments, but I prefer to believe what a fellow like Troy Brown said during his appearance on a Sunday pre-game show … that Maroney was immature and uncommitted. Brown tried to be as diplomatic as possible, but it was clear that as someone who had to overachieve for every bit of his NFL career, he had no respect whatsoever for a player who basically squandered his opportunity.
Keep the faith!
I got that sense, too.
But nobody ever really let onto it, so I figured I was just judging him based on appearance and not substance.
RBs are often eccentric and/or appear lackadaisical
Clinton Portis turns up to press conferences in costume and says ridiculous things, but it’s still hard to forget the guy ran at 5.5ypc for his first four seasons.
Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.
by Comedic.Sans on Sep 17, 2010 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Portis is awesome
He’s a great runner, awesome blocker. Solid all around back. I loved the personalities he had, mainly because he had a running story with them. Besides, someone needs to have fun during those things. I’m quite sick of hearing “well we gave it our best, there’s some things to work on but .. hey.. gotta forget the past and look to next week” every damn week from some losing teams player somewhere.
Good reference.
That could well be why he sucked. Some people just aren’t competitive and some people can take a few million and make a good life out of it and don’t really care about fame and fortune. Maybe LM is one of those people.
Bob Kraft describing the first time he met Tom Brady: "He looked me in the eye and added, 'I'm the best decision this organization has ever made."
by BabeParilli on Sep 17, 2010 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions
+11.
How Maroney’s stat line reads and how Maroney actually impacted this team’s overall offensive effectiveness are two very different things.
Regarding the poll results so far.
It shows Pat’s fans and reality are sometimes quite different.
14% say he was a bust in the poll. BB trading him for a 4th minus a 6th says he was a
B U S T!
Bob Kraft describing the first time he met Tom Brady: "He looked me in the eye and added, 'I'm the best decision this organization has ever made."
I'd go with "Bad selection"...
…and not “Bust.” He contributed to the offense and helped out- I think a bust would have been shipped away after two seasons of zero production.
by Richard Hill on Sep 17, 2010 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions
15 games on his contract for moving up two rounds in the draft?
I still struggle to say he’s an outright bust. Chad Jackson was a bust, no doubt – the guy played 14 games for 13 receptions and a dozen returns.
Ben Watson probably wasn’t a bust (although you could argue his production was disappointing) – he did play 71 regular season games and a dozen post-season games. But when he left, the Pats got nothing in return.
Laurence Maroney is somewhere in the middle. He played 45 regular season games, and produced at a fair clip when he was active. He also showed up in post-season games, and had some superb post-season efforts. He didn’t play as many games as Watson, but when he left New England he did help the team out by bringing in a 4th rounder in exchange for a 6th rounder and the last 15 games of his career (assuming he was healthy enough to play them all). That’s not great, but it’s not Chad Jackson, either.
Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.
by Comedic.Sans on Sep 17, 2010 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I guess
it’s a matter of semantics.
Bob Kraft describing the first time he met Tom Brady: "He looked me in the eye and added, 'I'm the best decision this organization has ever made."
by BabeParilli on Sep 17, 2010 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Honestly, how good is he really?
All we got was to move up 2 rounds in the draft for him for his last 15 games? That’s all we got for a decent RB going to a team who really doesn’t have any right now due to injuries? I wouldn’t be shocked if Denver trades him to Green Bay for a DE or a draft pick now.
If Denver traded him, they'd have only one RB themselves
I think the other thing you could look at is that the Bills have 3 starting-quality RBs (all young, and all under contract) in CJ Spiller, Marshawn Lynch, and Fred Jackson, and Green Bay said they aren’t willing to part with even a third-round draft pick to get Lynch (I’m not saying the Bills would accept a third-rounder, by any means).
Green Bay has zero RBs and eeven they won’t give up a third-rounder for a guy who’d be their instant starter and bell-cow back. Lynch is also under contract for a couple of years as far as I know; Maroney only for the end of the season, so they’d be trading for a lot more security. If Green Bay have zero RBs and wouldn’t give up a 3rd for an instant, multi-year starter, I’m not sure why the Broncos would give up a higher pick for 15 games of a guy who’ll be their 2nd or 3rd string RB.
Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.
by Comedic.Sans on Sep 18, 2010 5:21 AM EDT up reply actions

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