Pre-Wk 3 Game Thread: Patriots (2-1) at Giants (1-2)
by Greg Knopping on Sep 2, 2010 6:30 PM EDT
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NFL Preseason Week 4
New England Patriots (2-1) at New York Giants (1-2)
7:00 PM, NFL Network, 98.5 FM The Sports Hub
At 7:00 PM tonight, the Patriots will wrap up their preseason with one final game against the New York Giants, in the team's first of two visits to the new Giants Stadium this season.
While starters don't typically play in the preseason finale under head coach Bill Belichick, don't expect that tonight. According to the coach, the starters will be playing tonight. The reason is probably to get that bad taste out of their mouth's from last week's game against the St. Louis Rams. Tonight's game will be especially important for the defense, who let rookie quarterback Sam Bradford tear them to shreds last week.
We don't know how long the starters will play tonight, so I have a feeling they will play until Belichick deems their performance sufficient. It could be one quarter, it could be two, it could really be anything.
No matter how long the starters actually play tonight, this will be the last chance for many bubble players to prove themselves. While Bryan Hoyer will certainly see some snaps, I would also expect Zac Robinson to get some time. The second string offensive line will get another chance to gel. Young defenders such as Tyrone McKenzie and a hopefully healthy Jermaine Cunningham may get some run. There will be a lot of secondary storylines to watch, and hopefully we can get some finality on the team's depth issues.
Greg's Prediction: Patriots 24 Giants 17
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Is Cunningham actually playing tonite?
I hope so, but it seemed he didn’t participate in practice this week.
It wouldn't bother me if Cunningham was the Anti-Crable.
Injured all preseason, but healthy for the regular season.
Much more useful than the opposite.
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Sep 2, 2010 6:37 PM EDT reply actions
Gonna miss the first hour or so of this one.
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Sep 2, 2010 6:37 PM EDT reply actions
No doubt
I’m just a bit worried that if he doesn’t see the field now, he won’t in the regular season either.
You lucky dog, uh, fox.
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Sep 2, 2010 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Gotta go punch things for awhile.
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Sep 2, 2010 6:54 PM EDT reply actions
Yahoo is so clueless they think he could possibly get cut.LOL
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by Yardpenalty.com on Sep 2, 2010 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Throw to Aaron
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by Yardpenalty.com on Sep 2, 2010 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Aaron Hernandez
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by Yardpenalty.com on Sep 2, 2010 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions
So Pats will play arena football this year...
Can not stop, will not be stopped…
Oh yea
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by Yardpenalty.com on Sep 2, 2010 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions
yea you should see Marshawn Lynch he looks like garbage against Lions
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Fred is a great backup that can make plays
Does Sammy or Law get the 53-man nod?
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Greg predicted the starters would play until Bill deemed their performance sufficient
so far, that would mean the D plays all night
Keep the faith!
I gotta say play Chung over James I hope
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by Yardpenalty.com on Sep 2, 2010 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions
I say one more series and take em out so they finish with a bad taste in their mouth
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Nicks is scary for defenders and that was a good test for Devin and he passed with a B ish.lol
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That was gross at 1;00 minute what is up with TB's deep ball? Short 2 weeks ago 2
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by Yardpenalty.com on Sep 2, 2010 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Hes thrown short on a few this preseason..Had Moss in wk 2.
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by Yardpenalty.com on Sep 2, 2010 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Idk I didnt c Guyton
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by Yardpenalty.com on Sep 2, 2010 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Marques Murrell just got on the stat sheet
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The line isn't getting any push either! uggg
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by Yardpenalty.com on Sep 2, 2010 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Im not sure must be a guy on the ropes
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by Yardpenalty.com on Sep 2, 2010 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions
That UFA who got cut then resigned.
Bodden-insurance.
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JC hasn't played hoped he would get some action
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by Yardpenalty.com on Sep 2, 2010 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I hate to see him out there with no experience, but the staff always prepares well
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by Yardpenalty.com on Sep 2, 2010 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions
weird
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by Yardpenalty.com on Sep 2, 2010 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Anyone think the KR blocking unit is on 'roids?
50 yard kick returns by first-round draft picks, cool. 50 yard kick returns by some guy off the street?
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big crease on that one by us
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by Yardpenalty.com on Sep 2, 2010 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions
thats probably not far from tha truth though.lol
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by Yardpenalty.com on Sep 2, 2010 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions
As long as nobody gets injured, I'm fine with that.
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Hoyer's showing some nous - no dink-and-dunk when it's obvious in the situation
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Alright I gotta get off I was told cuz I spent too much time engulfed in NFL activties by my gal,
I like Myers! See you guys in regular season and PATS rule!
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Myers might be looking at a PS berth, he's been doing well
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even BB said it's hard to tell what the team will be likc
just from training camp and preseason. The regular season will tell all.
Keep the faith!
I'm pumped though. I think my coworkers will be relieved once the season starts.
One of the guys I work with is a Steelers fan. I always make fun of him and point at my Pats poster in my cube.
those Steeler fans have to be a bit anxious
with how the season will start, especially after missing the playoffs last year
Keep the faith!
There are a lot of question marks with that team.
They were always in the Contender talk every year and I have not heard anything about it this year.
A lot of analysts have been ruling the Pats out of the playoffs, but they still talk about them as a dangerous team. You can’t take any team for granted; once you do that its all over.
I like how we’re kind of slipping under the radar this year. I think the team will use that to their advantage.
Rich Orhnberger is playing really well on the O-line.
Im so happy for this kid. Ive known his since HS. It’s a real trip for me to see him make it. I would love to see him get some time in the regular season.
by colinyoung on Sep 2, 2010 8:16 PM EDT reply actions
Just curious...
Why do you think that? He was with the team last year. He started with the first o-line tonight. Hes getting a ton of time. If it were too late, why would he be getting all this time on the field?
by colinyoung on Sep 2, 2010 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Before Kazcur's injury, I would've thought he might get cut
but now he’s one of the more experienced guys in the system.
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Giants fan here
Sorry but I can’t resist:
We’re only going to score 17 points?
Against all odds, against all circumstance were you don't have a shot, you succeed
All you hear about is the past, the past... the past is the !@#$ing past, this is the present.
THIS IS TEMPORARY! A CHAMPIONSHIP IS PERMANENT
-Michael Strahan
Pretty good
Sorry I don’t mean to troll but it was too much to resist posting
Against all odds, against all circumstance were you don't have a shot, you succeed
All you hear about is the past, the past... the past is the !@#$ing past, this is the present.
THIS IS TEMPORARY! A CHAMPIONSHIP IS PERMANENT
-Michael Strahan
(this is in response to the prediction)
Against all odds, against all circumstance were you don't have a shot, you succeed
All you hear about is the past, the past... the past is the !@#$ing past, this is the present.
THIS IS TEMPORARY! A CHAMPIONSHIP IS PERMANENT
-Michael Strahan
Given they're throwing to Darnell Jenkins and Carson Butler (who?), I'd be happy with 17 points...
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haha
would have been more appropriate earlier. I’ll leave you guys back to giants free posters
Against all odds, against all circumstance were you don't have a shot, you succeed
All you hear about is the past, the past... the past is the !@#$ing past, this is the present.
THIS IS TEMPORARY! A CHAMPIONSHIP IS PERMANENT
-Michael Strahan
It's all good
Having a Giants person around means we can get roster scouting, haha
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I guess if anyone has some questions
I’ll be glad to answer to the best of my ability.
I do have a question, how’s Brandon Spikes been doing?
Against all odds, against all circumstance were you don't have a shot, you succeed
All you hear about is the past, the past... the past is the !@#$ing past, this is the present.
THIS IS TEMPORARY! A CHAMPIONSHIP IS PERMANENT
-Michael Strahan
he's made a noticable impression so far in preseason
especially with Guyton missing snaps with a knee injury, Spikes took over surprisingly well. He’s intense, competitive, and a hard hitter. Sometimes he bites on or committs to what the offense is selling, but overall he’s been solid
Keep the faith!
Impressive, very impressive
He might get caught out in pass plays because of his lack of speed occasionally, but in everything else, he’s looked very good.
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Thanks all
I ask because we had a big debate during draft time about who we wanted for MLB. Spikes obviously came up, but I think his lack of speed definitely wouldn’t have worked well in a 4-3
Any questions for me?
Against all odds, against all circumstance were you don't have a shot, you succeed
All you hear about is the past, the past... the past is the !@#$ing past, this is the present.
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-Michael Strahan
Hey hey, my boy!
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second quarter notes
So outside linebacker Pierre Woods has been playing end. In another sign that this is the fourth preseason game, wide receiver Buddy Farnham lined up at safety on the fourth defensive series.
Probably looking for reasons to keep them around
Interesting that Woods is being forced to show multi-positionality
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Charles, I'd think
You’d think having Thomas Jones might cost him Red Zone TDs, but most of Charles’s efforts last year were long-range TDs. Moreno might get hurt through overuse.
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Rivers might be worth a look.
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Bush will out perform PT cruiser you heard it here 1st! 36 Td's in 48 games
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by Yardpenalty.com on Sep 3, 2010 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions
not really sure who Rod Owens or Carson Butler are though
but Clayton gets it in with some good power and nice blocking
Keep the faith!
Green-Ellis cut down on 4th down
his legs were taken out just when he thought he had room to walk in. Too bad.
Keep the faith!
Interesting that Zac Robinson isn't getting a crack.
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So, I just got in. Got some Q's :)
How was Maroney tonight?
How was Brandon Tate?
How was our first string offense?
How was our secondary?
Pass rush? Who?
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
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Ninkovich has been the only guy who has stuck out on the pass rush for me
although kyle love has one sack as well.
by beantownboy171 on Sep 2, 2010 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions
also mccourty was solid
maroney was average
by beantownboy171 on Sep 2, 2010 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Maroney
9 for 32.
not bad i say.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
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Maroney - 9 carries, 32 yards
Tate didn’t play (I don’t think)
Defense started slooow
Keep the faith!
So butler did good?
Was our front seven good?
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
unless the guys chasing Price were faster than the guys chasing Jenkins
can’t tell in these preseason games
Keep the faith!
Nooo
5 minutes of ‘learning experiences’ left.
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"Learning experience", like...
…“never watch the 4th preseason game” :D
by frogfromthemud on Sep 2, 2010 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions
no pain, no gain. ;)
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
did cruz seriously drop it??
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
buddy farnham is on defense?
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
Like a ninja
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the next Troy Brown?
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
good catch by price.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
wait... no catch?
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
Last one was on Clayton
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Sep 2, 2010 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions
3rd-and-22. Any Eagles fans around?
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Oh wait, McNabb isn't there any more... sucks to be you
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That's a good start for an over under
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Sep 2, 2010 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions
He's missed roughly 50% over his career, so yeah, 8 would be ideal.
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So how were our first string offense and defense? Good stuff? Bad stuff? Who stood out on both sides?
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
Hard to say right now
I’ll have to watch it again and pay more attention to be honest
Keep the faith!
wow. our defense looked porous looking at the pay by play chart...
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
The first drive was rough.
They got run right over. 86 yards on 7 or 8 plays. They settled in afterward, though.
eh. almost disagree.
I like to see how our young guys are under pressure. They are playing for roster spots.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
meanwhile...
..Tim Tebow 1 TD, 1 Int… 13 attemps, 12 completed for 167 yards. Too bad his only miss was intercepted.
oh please, Tim Tebow got more time in one game than Zac has had the entire preseason
by okie for michigan on Sep 2, 2010 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions
He had a very rough start.
Fumbled his first snap under center, leading to a Vikings TD. Threw the INT shortly thereafter. He settled in nicely, but against the second string. He’s clearly got a lot of work to do to nail down even some of basic fundamentals of the position at the NFL level.
Same could be said of all rookies?
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by Comedic.Sans on Sep 2, 2010 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Some rookies.
Some are much more NFL-ready than others. You expect your 1st round picks to be a little more ready than your later round selections.
Full disclosure: I think taking Tebow earlier than the 3rd round was foolish. I’m all for drafting based on potential, but he’s just got so many adjustments to make. He wasn’t first round “value,” because he’s too much of a risky project. Maybe a team with the luxury to blow an early pick could justify it, but not the Broncos.
McDaniels certainly has confidence that he won't be fired quickly.
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by Comedic.Sans on Sep 2, 2010 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I hope he gets the chance to see the Tebow experiment through.
It won’t be right if neither we nor he can say “I told you so.”
I actually like Tebow's chances with McDaniels as his HC
McDaniels might’ve moved away from some of Weiss’s screens and slants when he was in NE, but he had to have been at least aware of them… and that’s precisely the kind of playbook that Tebow could succeed in. Even having the guy in shotgun and running a hybrid of Faulk-like direct-snap runs and Brady-like shotgun draws could be pretty effective when run in concert with a back like Moreno.
And with the re-signing of Orton, Tebow’s got time to develop and McDaniels has a NFL-quality starting QB.
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by Comedic.Sans on Sep 2, 2010 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Almost a great catch by price!
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
I think they played all in. The last thing they wanted...
…an overtime after a field goal.
And his buddy, Cthulthu.
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by Comedic.Sans on Sep 2, 2010 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions
And HIS homeboy Raptor Jesus.
Proud supporter of a New York baseball team and a Boston football team. Yeah, deal with it!
But not Rex Ryan
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by Comedic.Sans on Sep 3, 2010 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions
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