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FOXBORO, MA - OCTOBER 09:   Tom Brady #12 of the New England Patriots celebrates a touchdown in the first quarter against the New York Jets on October 9, 2011 at Gillette Stadium in Foxboro, Massachusetts.  (Photo by Elsa/Getty Images)

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I don’t really consider myself a morning person. The first half hour or so of my day is usually spent borderline comatose as I fumble around with the shower knobs and the coffee maker and the Count Chocula with one eye open. I actually don’t even consider myself clinically awake until Kelly Kapowski, my eternal 90s crush, makes her first appearance on Saved by the Bell, which I watch every day as I eat my cereal. Early mornings just aren’t for me.

Not today, though. This morning saw me up and smiling before my alarm even had a chance to go off.  I took a little extra time in the shower and gave myself what I feel pretty comfortable calling one of the most stylish shampoo mohawks of all time. My Count Chocula had that rare yet perfect balance of crunchy cereal ghosts and delicious marshmallow vampiure bats. And to make things even better, this morning’s Saved By the Bell episode was the one where Kelly gets the opportunity to model in Paris and Zack is worried she'll dump him for some snooty Frenchman, which is one of my personal favorites.

Some days, the sun just shines brighter.

And it’s this feeling that proves to me, once and for all, just how big the rivalry between the New England Patriots and the New York Jets has become. You don’t get feelings like this after just any win. This kind of joy is reserved exclusively for smacking around a team you love to hate, getting a statement win, and shutting up those once considered un-shutuppable. Today is the very definition of Victory Monday.

Was yesterday’s win perfect? No way. Does New England still have a long way to go? Yes it does. Was this game closer than it should have been? Absolutely.  Am I going to worry about any of that right now? Negatory good buddy. Unlike last week, where I was happy with the victory but still a little concerned about how we won, I saw a lot of progress yesterday on both sides of the ball and am comfortable just enjoying this one for what it is. And what is it, exactly?

A win over Rex Ryan’s Jets, that’s what it is, dammit. Game notes after the jump.

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  • I absolutely love the Patriots’ throwback uniforms. I wish the NFL made a full set of pajamas that looked exactly like them, complete with white Pat Patriot nightcap helmet. I would wear those 365 days a year, even on 100 degree nights in the middle of August.
  • I completely forgot what it feels like to force consecutive 3 and outs. It’s pretty nice.
  • I did not, however, forget how it feels to have a team just march down the field against this defense and punch it into the end zone. That isn’t nice at all.
  • Brian Waters – what a great pickup. Getting better and better every week.
  • Pretty quiet day from Shaun Ellis. Hmmm.
  • Darrelle Revis never ceases to amaze me. Defensive back is, in my opinion, the 2nd hardest position to play behind quarterback, and he is just a master of his craft. What a joy to watch – most of the time.
  • One big positive to take away from this game is New England’s pacing. Tommy B came out so hot offensively to start the year one of the question marks so far this season is whether they could play smash mouth football and control the clock. Statement game from the running backs today, particularly BenJarvus Green-Ellis. That guy defines reliability.
  • Pleasantly surprised with Gary Guyton yesterday. LT was pretty much a nonfactor, there was no run longer than 9 yards, and Guyton seemed to be wherever the ball was on almost every defensive play.
  • Doubly impressed with Brandon Spikes . He continues to dominate as a run stopper and I like how fired up he gets every time he makes a hit. That’s the kind of intensity this defense needs.
  • If New England had lost yesterday, I would have blamed it almost entirely D'brickashaw Ferguson’s shoe getting wedged right smack in the middle of Pat Chung’s helmet. That had bad omen written all over it.
  • How annoying is Santonio Holmes when he drops the ball like that after a first down catch? News flash, buddy:  you were pretty much a ghost for the majority of this game and your offense is a mess.  Maybe you should stop crooning after every 4 yard gain.
  • I had no idea Phil Simms had such a big mancrush on Shonn Greene. I’d bet money that in between calling the game, Simms was in the booth drawing a charcoal picture of Greene reclining provactively on a sofa.
  • Very sloppy game in terms of penalties for both teams.
  • Every time the camera cut to a closeup of Mark Sanchez, he looked like a tourist who just had some guy run off with his camera while he was stuck standing there in some fountain with his cargo pants hiked up to his knees.
  • If I was Chad Ochocinco, I’m not sure how I’d feel about the crowd cheering wildly after every time I caught the ball. I know they mean well, but when two consecutive catches is what warrants a standing ovation for you, you can’t feel all that good – especially when you follow those two catches with a false start penalty.
  • That little sideline floater to Wes Welker to set up a new set of downs right before halftime was one of the most beautiful throws I have ever seen. It was only good for about 3 yards and  will soon be lost forever amid the 40,000 hours of highlight footage that has accumulated over Tom Brady’s career, but I’d like to do my part right now to cement that short, meaningless play at least somewhere in the annals of history. Just superb.
  • What’s up with everyone harping on Tommy B’s first red-zone pick of his career?  Didn’t he throw a red zone INT against the Chargers in the 2007 AFC Championship game? How come nobody counts postseason stats?
  • What is it with New England allowing an answering score less than 30 seconds after the completion of a great drive? I don’t even have time to finish my beer before opposing teams answer right back.
  • Overall, James Ihedigbo had a pretty solid game, and looks like the best option to start beside Chung at safety. However, that was an absolutley horrible pursuit and angle on that touchdown pass to Jeremy Kerly. I know his assignment was to cover LT in the flat, but when you get a direct line to the QB, you take it.
  • You wouldn’t have thought so last week, but it’s true: I'd put Mark Sanchez as the 3rd best quarterback in the league at avoiding the sack, behind only Michael Vick and Ben Roethlissberger. At least once per game he avoids what should be a surefire sack and extends the play.
  • I wish I had the motivatioin to do a study of Sanchez’s effectiveness when rolling to his right. I have a feeling his numbers would be amazing.
  • Another stat I’d like to see: New England’s effectiveness following a defensive timeout. I bet it isn’t amazing.
  • Almost forgot that Aaron Hernandez was playing on one leg yesterday. Other than that drop in the end zone that led to the Antonio Cromartie pick, he had a really solid day.
  • I feel like Bill Belichick has been in a bit of a slump in terms of winning challenges as of late. Good to see him right the ship yesterday. Two great challenges that had huge impacts on the game.
  • Apparently Rob Gronkowski was so sick yesterday that he couldn't even make it out for pregame warmups. He suited up anyway and had probably his best day so far as a blocking tight end. Even when his receptions are limited, he does whatever he can to help this team win.
  • Hey Plax – thanks for getting the dropsies yesterday. Reeeeeeeaally wish you’d done that about 4 years ago.
  • CRUCIAL 3rd and 4 – shotugun direct-snap to BeJarvus Green-Ellis for a 14 yard gain and a new set of downs. You know Kevin Faulk was smiling on that one.
  • NANTZ! Did you really just mention that Benny has never fumbled as New England is trying to run out the clock to ice the game??? What the hell is wrong with you?!!
  • Lo and behold, right after Jim Nantz’s little ditty, Tommy B almost fumbled the ensuing snap. If New England had turned that one over, I would have quit my job and spent the rest of my life going all No Country For Old Men on ol’ Jimmy.
  • Just kidding, Mr. Nantz. Please don’t sue me.
  • Raise your hand if you were terrified as Stephen Gostkowski kicked off to Joe McKnight after the last field goal. Both of mine are up. I typed this last note with my feet.
  • Also – raise your hand if you were actually surprised that the Jets didn’t score on that final possession. Both my hands are still up.
  • Jets were 3 for 11 on 3rd down on the day. That’s pretty damn good. However, on every drive where New York did manage a first down, they scored. I'm, sure Bill Belichick will be pointing this stat out during team meetings this week.                                                   
  •  Did New England’s defense get better this week, or is the Jets offense just that bad? I sure as hell hope that it's both.    

 

Yes, I would have liked to see Sanchez on his back a little more. And yes, this game could very well have been a blowout if the Patriots had done a better job capitalizing on some opportunities. But you know what? New England got a great grind-it-out victory at home against what is still a very solid defense to create some distance in between the top and bottom of the AFC East.

I need to be careful not to gloat, as much as I’d like to. I know the second quarter of the season just started and there is a string of tough opponents coming New England’s way over the next few months, including a visit to the Meadowlands in November. There’s a big difference between enjoying the win and gloating, though, and I’m going to milk every second out of this one before we turn the page and get ready for Dallas.

Speaking of milk...time for another bowl of Count Chocula.

 

 

 

 

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id add welker did a great job against revis

Welker is on fire this season, not just because Brady is throwing to him, he is carrying this team when they can’t do it them self. I think this is gonna be a big year for him and he will have continued success unless teams take him out completely with double coverage.

by Oenomaus on Oct 10, 2011 11:02 AM EDT reply actions  

Agreed 100%

The true “test” for Welker was whether he could match up to easily the best corner in the league. He passed admirably when his number was called and put up incredible numbers, even though it was clear in the game planning that the Pats weren’t trying to rely on him this week by incorporating the TEs more.

I would hate to be a defensive coordinator playing against the Pats going forward. You saw Ryan put Revis on Welker 75-80% of the game, and he still burned you for over 100+. I’m not as well versed in the intricate Xs and Os of football as an NFL coach, but how do you stop it?

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by Adam Fox on Oct 10, 2011 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is what I saw last night as well. Welker was awesome.

And yet Peter King wrote this morning that Revis only allowed 1 catch to Welker, and that “it is debatable” who was covering him on his 73 yarder. Let me clarify that for him. Revis was. With safety help. I guess they can’t print that though.

Deep in enemy territory

by JeffyB on Oct 10, 2011 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

MMQB was weak

I like a lot of King’s stuff, and his personal takes on everything, but that part of the article was ridiculous. It looked to me like Revis finally met his match in a healthy and smoking hot Welker.

What does Welker need to do to get some respect in that game, 200 yds. and 3 TDs?

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by Adam Fox on Oct 10, 2011 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Small white receivers.

Gritty, hardworking, apparently not skilled.

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by ISN on Oct 11, 2011 1:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

I didn't think so.

It looked like zone to me, because revis slowed down as if he would let the safety take care of him. But that safety bit on Brady’s play action, which left Welker going past that safety, and Revis going right after him after he saw Brady make the throw toward welker.

It looked like zone to me. As much as I would like to have the “welker burned revis” in my head, I did not see it that way.

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by Jack'sAxe on Oct 10, 2011 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

The CB can also pass off in man coverage if he has help.

In other words, the CB is in man coverage, but the Safety is read and react and can cover the receiver “passed” to him or one that gets burned by a DB. He could still have passed him on in man coverage (especially if he thought he could pick off an underneath throw), and that obviously ended up being a mistake.

Welker was targeted a third time while on Revis Island, but the illegal pick by Cromartie ended that TD opportunity. Revis had nothing to do with it.

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by SlotMachinePlayer on Oct 10, 2011 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

IN other words, we don't exactly know if Revis was man covering him or not.

I saw it as mostly zone, because I didn’t see revis in a hurry to get close to welker, until brady threw the ball. Ah well, its something we won’t fully know.

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by Jack'sAxe on Oct 10, 2011 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

hm
It looked like zone to me, because revis slowed down as if he would let the safety take care of him

Watching the play many times and the replays there are 2 options:
1. Revis was on Welker
2. Revis was sent on holiday for this snap.

There was no one else near Revis other than Welker. So you are in a “zone” and there is only 1 player within 15 yards to you, nobody else moves toward you. If you do not defend the only guy, then what are you doing at all? Controlling the quality of the turf on that side of the field?:)

by frogfromthemud on Oct 10, 2011 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

The safety was near welker, and it looked like he was supposed to pick him up

but instead he got play actioned.

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by Jack'sAxe on Oct 10, 2011 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

2 things
The safety was near welker, and it looked like he was supposed to pick him up

but instead he got play actioned.

Again: what would be the job for Mr. Revis then? There was nobody near him.

..and it’s the Jets, they talk, so we got a little help:

Smith was asked specifically about a 73-yard catch by Wes Welker that set up a crucial Patriots touchdown in the third quarter. Welker appeared to split Smith and Darrelle Revis before gaining the separation that led to the huge gain.

Before the snap, Smith said his responsibility was tight end Rob Gronkowski, who was in the Patriots backfield split off to the right side.

“We were in quarters coverage and when my tight end blocked, Revis and I would have been doubling Welker low and high and we basically didn’t have either one.

“It wasn’t a communication thing because we made the communication before the snap.”

So based on this: Revis on Welker and Smith on Gronk primarily, and because Gronk was stacked Welker should have been doubled. Revis did not have anybody other to cover there.

by frogfromthemud on Oct 10, 2011 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice.

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by SlotMachinePlayer on Oct 11, 2011 9:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Revis was in coverage, and was meant to be bracketing him with the Safety.

The safety wasn’t there, doesn’t mean Revis wasn’t still in coverage.

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by ISN on Oct 11, 2011 1:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree he certainly didn't burn Revis. The safety missed the assignment.

Revis showed his awesomeness by running Wes down. I thought Wes was in the clear, Revis is a beast………..unfortunately.

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by PatNation85 on Oct 11, 2011 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Difference between a 4.3 40 and a 4.6 unfortunately.

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by SlotMachinePlayer on Oct 11, 2011 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Revis runs a 4.3? Good Lord

I thought he was an average runner at best.

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by PatNation85 on Oct 11, 2011 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

4.38 actually (18.7 MPH average)

Welkers was 4.63 about the same as Jerry Rice, but both look faster on the field. (17.7 MPH average)

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by SlotMachinePlayer on Oct 11, 2011 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Heh

I haven’t even eaten breakfast, lol. XD

I said it in Greg’s first post-game topic (I think…), but I was pleased with the way we were able to run the ball.

 I remember our 2nd offensive drive of the game where our last 4 plays were run plays. The first 3 run plays each resulted in 8 yard gains, and the last one was 3 yards; for a TD. I’m sure the Jets didn’t like that, but I did.

Then, in the last offensive drive for the Pats, they were up 6 with 7:14 left in the game, and would have liked for the Jets to, if nothing else, not get the ball while it was still a one possession game. So what do they do? Run the ball in 11 of 12 plays. It was pretty obvious the Pats would have liked to run the clock out at that point, and they did just that, then kicked a FG to go up 9 with 1:06 left in the game.

The Pats need more games like that. When teams have to start respecting their run game…then what do you know, we might just win the SB that we should have last season. : )

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by Tai on Oct 10, 2011 11:05 AM EDT reply actions  

Not sure you can compare Sanchez to Roethlisberger.

His “extending the play” is running around behind the line of scrimmage avoiding rushers – Roethlisberger just shrugs them aside and will still throw downfield.

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by ISN on Oct 10, 2011 12:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Although if tebow keeps doing that headless chicken thing he might have to enter the discussion too. Anyone else see that at the end of the broncos game?

by FlyNavy on Oct 10, 2011 1:14 PM EDT via iPhone app up reply actions  

That was fantastic.

If only because of the sheer amount of tacklers he made miss, he deserves recognition.

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by BigRussNovak on Oct 10, 2011 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought he was gonna get tackled without even getting the throw off.

Or forget to throw it and set off downfield.

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by ISN on Oct 11, 2011 1:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

On that 3 yd pass to Welker....

I was thinking the exact same thing, the timing, trajectory, touch and placement of that pass was astounding, one of the hardest throws in the game, totally underrated.

by Panimal4422 on Oct 10, 2011 12:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Revis was impressed with that one too -
"I remember the one out that Welker did on me,’’ said Revis. "I had him covered like a blanket and it’s like he shot-putted it up and it fell straight into his hands.’’

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by Marima on Oct 10, 2011 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Definitely

Sometimes it’s the smallest gains that are the hardest and most important.

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by Ben Buchanan on Oct 10, 2011 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Last week Ridley seemed the better runner over Benny.

This week Ridley did little and Benny carried the load.

Doesn’t mean Ridley is done, and doesn’t mean Benny will be effective in all situations. It just his style of running was more effective against the Jets run defense.

That’s why it’s nice to have some variety in the stable. When the Kryptonite pops up, Superman heads to the bench and Green Lantern takes the field. When a yellow ring gives GL fits, Superman comes in and carries the team. All the while the Flash is trying to overcome an ankle injury on the sidelines. It’s just not good when all your running backs keel over when some green glowing rock shows up. Variety is key.

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by SlotMachinePlayer on Oct 10, 2011 12:58 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Loving our slew of RBs

and am all giddy considering we haven’t even seen Shane Vereen touch the field yet. IIRC, he’s the fastest (quickest?) of the 4 the Pats currently suit up.

That, and I all but forgot about Faulk on the PUP. We won’t need him out of the backfield, but he’s as reliable a 3rd down back as they come. Should take us through the rest of the season after the bye until Vereen’s ready to step in.

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by Adam Fox on Oct 10, 2011 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Vereen was the practice player of the week against the Raiders

It’s a good sign that he may see the field at some point soon. This is one committee to feel pretty good about, no question.

Keep the faith!

by Marima on Oct 10, 2011 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

The only thing I worry about Ridley is sometimes it looks like he wants to score on every play.

So he starts trying to do too much. It makes sense BJGE took the reigns against this defense, definitely need the decisive runner that hits the holes hard.

by Oughat on Oct 10, 2011 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I saw that as well.

I was afraid he was going to pick up the LoMo DDR disease.

Hopefully a little film time with, “This is how a real running back (Law Firm) attacks the hole, and this is what you did ,Ridley”, is all it takes. If not then they can pull the film from LoMo dancing in NE, and Denver and then show him in his Citgo uniform. Sometimes you have to go to extremes.

Seriously, I think they can coach it out of him. I saw the same things from Adrian Peterson a couple years back and it lead to a series of fumbles. Look at him now and it’s all fixed. It’s coachable.

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by SlotMachinePlayer on Oct 10, 2011 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can see how, as a rookie, he might have been trying too hard

Even Brady said this morning on WEEI that he was really tired. The mental part of preparing for the Jets has to be exhausting, let alone the physical part of the game.

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by Marima on Oct 10, 2011 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Love how Lawfirm runs

Even when he does try some tricky moves, they always seem to have momentum going forward. Makes it difficult to stop him even when you hit him at the right time unless it’s a full body tackle.

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by Ben Buchanan on Oct 10, 2011 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep, 3 and 6 is much better than 3 and 14, we'd get with LoMo.

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by SlotMachinePlayer on Oct 11, 2011 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Lol you watch that show?

I’m surprised, but apparently lots of people do. I saw an ad for it once and it looked really old and lame. I’m not a morning person either.

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by New Century Silver on Oct 10, 2011 1:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Old and Lame????

Saved by the Bell is one of the greatest shows ever to come out of the 90s. Kids these days…

by Alec Shane on Oct 10, 2011 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed

I spent my childhood watching either Saved by the Bell or Captain Planet. Hell, I still sat down and watched a Saved by the Bell marathon last year as a high school senior.

by indy pats fan on Oct 10, 2011 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

My friends and I still make captain planet jokes!

by FlyNavy on Oct 10, 2011 9:06 PM EDT via iPhone app up reply actions  

The reason they don't count post-season stats

Is because it would ruin their love affairs with Peyton Manning and Brett Favre. Hard to follow up their typical claim of “greatest QB of a generation” with “who usually sucked in January”.

Deep in enemy territory

by JeffyB on Oct 10, 2011 1:47 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm hoping Brady

breaks that curse of his own this year, once and for all. It’s a shame his latest outings overshadow his near-infallible postseason play at the beginning of his career, at least in the minds of the media.

Loving the apparent team chemistry this year, though. That always seems to be the missing ingredient. I think everyone’s meshing, getting along and putting the team first and that bodes well going forward.

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by Adam Fox on Oct 10, 2011 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not sure if you've looked at Brady's stat's recently but ever since that Jaguars game in 2008 they've been down the tube.

His post-season QB rating right now stands at 85. Yikes.

I am confident that he will turn it around though. Just need one good run…

by bbismyhero on Oct 10, 2011 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

My point was more directed at the INT stat mentioned

You don’t see Brady throwing back-breaking picks very often. Favre has made a career out of it. Manning had his team down by a score with 5 mins to play in what should have been his career defining game and decided to stare down Reggie Wayne before throwing at him.

When the Patriots lose in the playoffs, it’s usually as a team. Brady, even if he isn’t great, is not the guy holding them back. Favre and Manning have been exactly that at times.

Deep in enemy territory

by JeffyB on Oct 11, 2011 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

One of my favorite plays

Was the Shaun Ellis steamroll over L.T. You could say L.T.’s block was effective because it essentially took Ellis out of the play, but it was beautiful to see him flattened like that. I still resent those “classless” remarks ;)

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by Adam Fox on Oct 10, 2011 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have never forgiven LdT for that.

It’s not even really his fault. He just said stupid things like players often do. Usually the press lambastes a player when they say things like that. “Why does a classy guy have to CALL himself classy?” and the like. Instead, since it was about the Pats, everybody jumped on board. I know it’s not rational, but I have never like LdT since.

In unrelated news, I refused to let him share a nickname with the best linebacker in league history long before that event. There’s only one “L.T.” Sorry, LeDanian.

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by Hometown Gyro on Oct 10, 2011 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

If everybody could kindly pretend I actually edit before I post,

…that’d be great. Thanks.

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by Hometown Gyro on Oct 10, 2011 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was a great play

simply because he steamrolled over LdT. Even if it took him out of the rest of the play, it was worth it.

Keep the faith!

by Marima on Oct 10, 2011 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was a beautiful morning for Patriots nation.

Grass was greener, sky bluer, food tastes better, etc…

I'm not drunk, I'm......hydrated.

by wetfeet on Oct 10, 2011 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

hehe my eyes popped open at 4:15 am.

this made me lol:

We need Edelman back so Welker isn’t out there on those plays as well as catching a million passes per game and running his already-short legs down to stubs before the season is half over.

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by 808BostonSportsFan on Oct 10, 2011 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know.

Just because Welker CAN do everything doesn’t mean he should HAVE to do everything.

I guess they tried Branch, Welker and Ridley(?) before the game, and Wes did it best. Was a time when they could hand that off to Faulk as well, but he is available yet.

Hopefully, they find someone else with some hands. BB once said that pretty much anyone can return a kick-off, but it’s much harder to field a punt. Some guys just can’t do it.

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by SlotMachinePlayer on Oct 10, 2011 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I loved the Phil Simms start of the 2nd half....

“Most teams can’t stop the high flying patriots offense, but the jets have an answer for welker…play action, deep for welker, revis tracks him down after a 73 yard gain.”

by sweetjesusihatethejets on Oct 10, 2011 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

If Wes was an inch taller, he might have outran Revis.

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by BigRussNovak on Oct 10, 2011 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I remember thinking about how ballsy that direct snap call was on a 3rd and 4 so late in the game.

It was a beautifully called game and I would like to say that this was probably TFB’s best game of the year. He was coolly efficient, took plenty of shots downfield seemed to be hitting the perfect spots on his receivers all game (even the interception was in the right spot).

I wasn’t as impressed with Guyton as you were though, Alec. I get nervous whenever I see him in the game. It seems like he is a few seconds late on reading 6-7 plays a game. I wish we got to see a little more of Dane Fletcher.

Oh and to anyone that says “oh the defense only looked good because it was the Jet’s offense”, just keep in mind that we made Henne look like a pro bowler.

by Oughat on Oct 10, 2011 2:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Interesting that Fletcr did not play a down on D

   You have to give credit to Spikes, and Guyton. After the second Jets TD, i was worried, because they ran it down our throats(as in their first drive for td). It seemed like their O-line was beginning to dominate us. But, we responded, stiffened up, and they couldn’t run on us the rest of the game. Pretty impressive, remembering that Mayo was out.

by furiousd on Oct 10, 2011 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thought this was interesting from Rexy's post-game presser
Q: What happened on the last field goal drive? Why couldn’t you slow them down?

RR: Well, we were trying some things and you know, we lined up wrong on one, then gave them a big gain. You know, we had an injury and the guy was filling in for a couple spots. But again, you have to give them credit. I’m not here to take away credit from them. They earned it. The guy ran the ball kind of hard at the end. Kind of surprised me, I thought [Tom] Brady would throw it there. We did have a loaded zone over there, but he found a way to get through and get that first down.

He wasn’t expecting it. Chalk one up for the Hoodie.

Keep the faith!

by Marima on Oct 10, 2011 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

"We have a mediocre run defense and a top-notch pass defense."

“So, yeah, I was surprised they ran it.”

Come on now, Rex.

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by Ben Buchanan on Oct 10, 2011 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

On Chad

It’s worth noting how big those grabs were. Completely saved a drive that looked dead in the water and would’ve been huge for the score had Herndo not botched the touchdown.

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by Ben Buchanan on Oct 10, 2011 4:34 PM EDT reply actions  

I think soon he'll have a good, solid day.

Something in the area of 6 catches for 75 yards, or somewhere around there. In almost every game, I notice he’s running more of a variety of routes. Hopefully that means he’s learning more of the playbook.

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by BigRussNovak on Oct 10, 2011 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think that can happen until he moves ahead of Branch though

I definitely think Chad will start producing here. But we run so much of our offense out of 2 tight end and heavy run looks with only 1 or 2 receivers, it’s gotta be hard for him to even get on the field. In our 3 receiver set, which he is usually a part of, he’s often the 5th option. So idk, I guess he just needs to keep practicing hard and hope to get more playing time so he can be a more central part of the offense.

Deep in enemy territory

by JeffyB on Oct 11, 2011 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Plus, once he had those under his belt

the defense had to respect his presence as a viable option for Brady

Keep the faith!

by Marima on Oct 10, 2011 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sideline awareness

Chad probably has some of the best footwork I’ve seen around the sideline making sure to keep both feet in, and even drag.

by cmdpsu15 on Oct 10, 2011 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Better than Burress, that's for sure.

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by ISN on Oct 11, 2011 1:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

watching the Bears-Lions game

I dont get a chance to watch the Bears a lot, but Cutler has real talent, I feel for the guy his OL his useless.

by businessbmw on Oct 10, 2011 9:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Speaking of useless

Merriweather doesn’t look good at all. Ever time I hear his name is something negative

Taylor Price will be the starter by the end of the season (Said before Training Camp)

by Chris Kole on Oct 10, 2011 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Meriweather's not bad

He just can’t cover/tackle/take right angles/play football cleanly/play football at all. But he’s great at acting like he’s amazing after his teammate makes a play.

by indy pats fan on Oct 10, 2011 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

ROFL

I learned how to make a sig just so it can say "DFA Darnell MacDonald". That means it must happen.

by Tai on Oct 11, 2011 3:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't feel that bad for Cutler

I know that his line takes a lot of flack but I have seen some of those games and I highly doubt the right protection packages are called all the time. Some of the misses are too repetitive to always just be a mistake by one of the lineman. I think Cutler is partly to blame (assuming he is the one calling the blocking assignments.)

by Oughat on Oct 11, 2011 2:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

That could be, too

Watching last night though it just looked like the Lions were blowing past their blockers, consistently winning their matchups at the line.

Deep in enemy territory

by JeffyB on Oct 11, 2011 9:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was feeling a teensy bit bad for the guy

until I watched him flop and roll on the ground to get the roughing the passer call.

Keep the faith!

by Marima on Oct 11, 2011 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Me and my buddy were saying the same thing

You want to give him credit for being tough, then he does something like that…

Deep in enemy territory

by JeffyB on Oct 11, 2011 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is it asking too much?

Am I being greedy/foolish to hope for an early Christmas present for Wes Welker. He has been outstanding (to say the least) for us and his contract is ending. How about a buy week gift, sign the man and make me happy (him too).

by MrZ on Oct 10, 2011 10:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Better sign him now,

As opposed to after a 150 catch season for 2k yards and 15 TDs

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by ISN on Oct 11, 2011 1:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

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