What the Pats Need to Do With the Bye
After rewatching the game and collecting second/third opinions, let's start with the D;
We need Jerod Mayo back at linebacker instead of Gary Guyton. Obviously. We also need to find a LB better at covering TE's than Guyton, who BTW is in a contract year. Brandon Spikes had a masterful game on Sunday, earning the best grade of any LB in the league according to ProFootballFocus. He needs to continue that, and allow a healthy Mayo to make some plays. Gary Guyton had a couple of nice plays but quite a few atrocious ones which resulted in lots of yardage that we didn't need to give up and can't afford to give up to a team like the Steelers..
We need to figure out the LDE issue. That issue would be Shaun Ellis who's best game of the season was an average one at best. Andre Carter is doing a wonderful time at RDE and we're pretty deep at DT(Wilfork, Haynesworth, Love, Warren, maybe Brace/Deaderick). LDE is the weakest link of the d-line. Deaderick might be a better fit there than Brace, but either way, Shaun Ellis needs to either get rested or get reduced playing time if not both before the Pats play the Steelers.
Figure out Devin McCourty. He needs a cornerback-whisperer and some rest. He's played a lot of snaps but has to be consistent in the good way. I still think he was a better pick rather than Kyle Wilson but his struggles against Dallas were quite discouraging. It didn't help that Gary Guyton and Shaun Ellis were on that same side of the field as McCourty for much of the game. McCourty needs to get ready for the Steelers,
Logan Mankins needs to become Logan Mankins again. He had some stiff competition on Sunday and was manhandled. He got beat in the pass game and run game. Some rest will do him some good. On Sunday he was no Brian Waters. We'll need him to be when the Pats visit the Steelers. The guy we have between the guards isn't the worst center in the league but he's definitely not the best, either.
The tackles need some rest. They got demolished especially when facing DeMarcus Ware. Matt Light looked dinged up and Nate Solder needs to work on his technique. Sebastian Vollmer should be ready for the Steelers.
The return game for kickoffs and punt-returns. I am so sick of seeing Wes Welker trying to evade guys who are flying with such a huge running-start. Julian Edelman should be ready for the Steelers.
Who's the featureback? If it's Green-Ellis, he should use the bye-week to get ready to pickup some Steeler blitzes. He's a great runner but has struggled at times in pass-protection. Given the use of the no-huddle it's important for the runningback in that set(2 TE/2 WR/1 RB) to be able to be more versatile in either the passing game or the running game. Shane Vereen got some snaps in on Sunday protecting Tom Brady, Woodhead returned(still not a great rusher), and Kevin Faulk is back at practice. We'll see what the near future holds in Heinz Stadium.
Who's the #3 receiver? No matter who it is, they need to figure out how and when to get open where Tom Brady wants them to get open. Out of 9 seasons, Deion Branch played in all 16 games just once.
Last but not least;
Tom Brady needs to build off of that last drive against the Cowboys. That was the 1st quarter Tom Brady of the first three-games averaging a 90-something percent completion rate. The first 57-minutes of the game looked a lot like the Pats/Jets playoff game, except GreenEllis got more carries than Woodhead, Hernandez was playing, Waters was dominating from the rightside of the Pats o-line, and the defense looked better up front.
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What we need to do....
1. Rest and recover…we earned it
2. Give Welker a contract…..he earned it, and we know we want him.
3. Plan…come out of the bye ready to kick ass
Just my $0.02 worth.
At Steelers will require Belichick to get a little creative.
Their secondary vs. Welker/Branch/Gronk/Hernandez = first-class matchup.
It is what it is
Their secondary is good, not great.
Brady makes Polamalu a non-factor, like all good QBs seem to do. Their corners succeed because of the front 7, but they’re not scaring anyone on their own. And we know Brady and the line negates their pass rush, heaping more pressure on a secondary that’s already overwhelmed by NE’s receiving options.
Unless you mean their secondary vs NE’s passing game is a great matchup for NE, in which case… carry on.
"Perhaps it was the Noid who should have avoided me." Mayor Adam West
I don't think the Patriots need a feature back.
Ridley and BJGE provide extremely solid running between the tackles and Woody is a great two-minute drill player.
As for the LDE role, image the Patriots as if they’re running a 3-1-2-5 defense, where they have their typical three two-gap linemen (Wilfork/Love/Ellis) and an additional pass rusher who always has their hand down (Carter). The linemen have the same role as the old three man front, but now they have an additional permanent pass rusher.
I agree, though. While Ellis isn’t awful, he could definitely be improved.
by Richard Hill on Oct 20, 2011 1:25 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
It's not all about their running;
BJGE hasn’t looked great in blitz-pickup, Woodhead is better but too small to handle a lot of DLinemen, and I don’t think the coach believes Ridley or Vereen are ready quite yet either.
It is what it is
Woodhead did okay with protection last year.
He’s not the worst going around.
"Perhaps it was the Noid who should have avoided me." Mayor Adam West
He's got excellent technique, it's his size against those NTs.
Seen him get run right over more than once. Like when he tried to pickup a Garay charge that nearly destroyed Brady’s knee.
It is what it is
Ummmm...
I don’t want any RB having to block a D Lineman one on one. If it’s Woodhead or Faulk lining up against even a lighter 4-3 DE, they shouldn’t get near to winning that matchup. That’s a mistake in the OL assigning protection, not the back.
It’s the RB’s ability to hold up a blitzing LB or DB, and it’s not just blocking them straight up like a practice blocking/pass rush drill. It’s the getting over to the CB blitzing from the other side. It’s taking the right guy in a 2-on-1. It’s the chips getting out of the backfield. Last we saw, Faulk had it. If he’s still at that level, or close to it, he’s still my guy.
"Perhaps it was the Noid who should have avoided me." Mayor Adam West
That happens sometimes when they stunt, though.
An End slides around and goes between the DTs instead. A DB blitzes in his place so the Tackle who’s already there picks him up instead and the DE walks through untouched in the middle. It’s worse when the center is doubling the opposite DT, and can’t see the DE behind him.
About all Woody can do is try to knock his legs out, and hope Brady dumps the ball, but really unless there’s a 250lb FB back there, that’s about all any of them can do. Hardly optimum.
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Oct 20, 2011 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, I know.
They could use a “complete” back, but I don’t think a “feature” back is necessary.
by Richard Hill on Oct 20, 2011 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Great description of the patriots hybrid 4-3
Its like having 3 dt and one de and 3 lb. This is why Cunningham can’t find the field. He would in a traditional 4-3 with two rushing des. This makes us stellar against the run and at times suspect against the pass as far as pass rushing as it’s mostly on Carter to be the only outside pressure.
On this point I think this will reap rewards in dec n into the playoffs. Also I think edge pressure is overrated n I prefer a gap pressure up the middle. This won’t cause strip sacks but will hurry the qb and lead to ints. This pressure ruins great qbs like Payton.
We have been having spikes take the center in blitz or blitz feints. This should continue or with teams with weak centers and good guards have Vince on the center and spikes blitz off an A gap to occupy their vest guard.
Though he won’t get pressure being blocked by thief best interior line guy, those best guy is on a lb leaving Vince and Albert/love 1-1 with a c or g and they will win this match up. When it’s a feint it will at least delay the double team and leave on of them singled up.
This going forward will create interior pressure and disrupt ol protections for the other team.
For Pitt look for spikes to blitz at pouncy leaving the other 4 all on single teams ESP the dt. At least once Ben will look to escape this and turn into Ellis or Carter for a sack.
This doesnt have the disguise of the old 3-4 but with the dl talent it’s more like the off a mater of matchups and we have the talent and depth to consistently win these.
by gnatecolby on Oct 20, 2011 9:19 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Brady's last 2 meetings with the Steelers......
62-89 for 749 yard, 7 TD’s with 0 interceptions, not sure how scared Brady is of this first-class secondary.
by Brady's Revenge on Oct 20, 2011 1:05 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I hope you are saying Woody isn't a great rusher based on maybe being a little injured still
otherwise you have an awfully short memory. He was an excellent rusher last year. Certainly he will never be a feature back but he performs his role pretty well.
He's no power-rusher,
when it comes to rushing he’s only real successful when the defense can’t see him coming. Some snaps here and there and he can be real successful jumping out from behind the o/d-linemen in the trenches and sneaking through small gaps. He’s a stealth back excellent as an outlet receiver, and good at the blitz-pickup who works best against 4-man fronts and when the ball is shoveled his way. However he can’t force the ball down the other team’s throat like BJGE did in the 4th quarter against the Jets’ 3-4 front.
It is what it is
Light wasn't that bad.
He gave up 2 sacks, yes. But he held DeMarcus Ware, one of the best, in check for something like 27 other snaps. It’s not perfect (obviously), but it’s not that bad either.
by CanadianPatriotsFan on Oct 20, 2011 8:44 PM EDT reply actions
Giving up 2 sacks and other forms of pressure is pretty bad.
It is what it is
LOL
I don’t think you guys have to worry about too much. Rest and recover is probably about it.
You have watched what happened the last few times you guys have played us right?
Bill Belichick seems to have LeBeau’s number.

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