Rex Ryan Goes Beserk Again, Announces Jets' Gameplan vs. Pats

by Middlesex on Oct 3, 2011 7:31 PM EDT

According to Rich Cimini on the Twitterverse, Rex Ryan flipped out at the New York Jets' team meeting today. Surely you don't have to wonder why. However, what he said was definitely interesting and made me think on what made the NYJ/NEP rivalry all the more wonderful; the differences in head coaches.

With star Center Nick Mangold out their run-game just hasn't been the same. Mark Sanchez has been trying to pass the ball. That has led to less ground-and-pound and more of a chance to see what many had already expected; Sanchez just isn't an elite QB at the NFL level. The result? 2-2 for a team considered to be amongst the top 10. Which brings us to Rex Ryan flipping out today and reportedly telling his team that they will return to a "ground and pound" strategy. Huh? Yeah.

Per Cimini on Twitter;

"Rex Ryan, furious in today's team meeting, tells team it will shift back to running game. Ground & Pound is back."

Keep in mind, Rex Ryan would like to be the anti-Belichick. Super Honest Vs. Super Hoodie.. or something along those lines. Anyways, he apparently only believes so much needs to be kept in-house. It's really stunning not just because it's leaked out but because they're going up against a team that absolutely owned the run-game against Oakland; which ran all over the Jets just the week before.

Stevan Ridley out-performed Run DMC. Take out DMC's longest of over a dozen carries, a 40 yarder resulting from botched assignments, and his average was less than 2.5 yards per carry. The New England defense is ranked 32nd against the pass. And here we are, with the Jets coming over here, reportedly to "ground and pound" the Pats in their own house. Uhuh.

I saw film of Mangold trying to stretch on Sunday. He looked like he was still aching from that high ankle sprain, and I don't see how he returns to 100% by this coming Sunday. That means the Jets O-line continues to be liable at center and also right-tackle, and that really makes me question how they can possibly hope to ground-and-pound it.

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I believe Mort said that he saw Mangold...

…and said that if Mangold returned against the Pats, he’d only be playing 75% or something along those lines.

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by Richard Hill on Oct 3, 2011 7:41 PM EDT reply actions

I believe it.

He’s not walking with a limp, but he was going through warm-ups with an obvious one. Even a week removed from that condition won’t be enough to deal with Wilfork and the rotation. Rex said he thinks Mangold will play but I’d agree that 75% looks like the best the Jets could hope for from him.

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It is what it is

by Middlesex on Oct 3, 2011 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions

Mangold @ 75% > Baxter

The Jets line was missing assignments and generally in a state of confusion against the Raven’s. Mangold’s will be far better disciplined as well as providing leadership and consistency to that line.

by BenCoatesFTW on Oct 4, 2011 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions

rex is a clown...

but I think we see a good effort from them this week, last night was ugly so we’ll get the ‘whole world is against us’ routine.

by sweetjesusihatethejets on Oct 3, 2011 7:46 PM EDT reply actions

The whole world is against them...

… because they’re a collection of a-holes.

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by nuthinboutnuthin on Oct 4, 2011 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions

plus, there's no way they want to get into a 3-game losing streak

After that Ravens beat-down, they’re looking at the Patriots defense like the light of salvation.

Keep the faith!

by Marima on Oct 4, 2011 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions

Except they still suck offensively.

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by ISN on Oct 4, 2011 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions

True

but the whole organization is delusional

Keep the faith!

by Marima on Oct 4, 2011 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions

Their loss to the Raiders was ugly, too.

That didn’t help them bounce back against the Ravens.

Oh, and let’s be blunt about it; the Jets in their 2011 form have yet to go up against an elite QB. Romo, McClown, Campbell, Flacco… ’nough said.

It is what it is

by Middlesex on Oct 3, 2011 7:51 PM EDT reply actions

That is very true

but it’s not like they are unfamiliar with Tom Brady, they have beaten him more times than not. If H-Bomb plays I think that will change but if he doesn’t well we might be in for a long game

Taylor Price will be the starter by the end of the season (Said before Training Camp)

by Chris Kole on Oct 3, 2011 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions

We'll find out sooner than not...

..regarding Hernandez, Haynesworth, Dowling, and Bodden.

I really want to see if Vereen gets some snaps and if Ridley begins to get more. Think it’s fair to say Woodhead is not going to be playing Sunday. After the Jets it’s Dallas, and then we got the bye, and then we can reach into the PUP list..

It is what it is

by Middlesex on Oct 3, 2011 8:03 PM EDT reply actions

I was thinking the same thing about Woodhead being hurt

Time to see what Vereen has. He was more highly touted. I hope we see that come out next game. That would rock to see him get a few 20-30 yard runs and a nice catch or two for 1st downs.

by Ozstryker on Oct 3, 2011 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions

Don't forget Vollmer.

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by PatNation85 on Oct 3, 2011 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions

Could be just hyperbole

But I think they HAVE to get back to that bc sachez is not good. If we let Sanchez put up numbers we are done and even I will say the d is terrible. We build our d to stop hmground n pound running teams. Ellis Albert or love n vince Anderson they will stop the run

by gnatecolby on Oct 3, 2011 11:07 PM EDT reply actions

Hence why the Jets trying to run against us a bit questionable. Especially with our team being so bad against the pass.

But oh well, if Rex wants to do whats best for NE, by all means go for it.

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by PatNation85 on Oct 4, 2011 3:49 AM EDT up reply actions

I wouldn't say the pats "owned" the Raiders running game. They certainly slowed mcfadden down though.

And the pats ran against perhaps the worst run defense in the league…. or one of the worst…

Shonn Greene and LT both have shown that they seem to have become just average runners. If they go back to the running game, good luck jets (or maybe not). They will probably fail, and with Brandon Spikes back, our run defense got better. Lets force Sanchez to throw, and have Rexy cry himself to sleep after the game.

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by Jack'sAxe on Oct 4, 2011 8:16 AM EDT reply actions

McFadden had 70 yards, 40 one one play.

He didn’t have an impact on the game.

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by ISN on Oct 4, 2011 8:39 AM EDT up reply actions

take away a 40 yard run on a breakdown in defense no less

and the pats def did own the raiders run game on this particular day.

by brady12mvp3 on Oct 4, 2011 8:43 AM EDT up reply actions

The Raiders gained over 100 yards rushing yesterday.

They did well against McFadden (even though he apparently injured his groin yesterday, and this can be explained by McFadden not having a lot of snaps, but he did get over 5 yards a carry). But you ignored Bush’s rushing, Ford’s 30 yard run, the Raiders had to compensate for McFadden’s injury (he only had 14 carries which is low too). And they did not run the ball in the second half at all (maybe a few times). I think the pats offense stopped the Raiders running game more than anything.

by Jack'sAxe on Oct 4, 2011 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions

And I'm well aware the pats had more rushign yards

and it was against the Raiders run defense, which is horrible.

by Jack'sAxe on Oct 4, 2011 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions

make as many excuses as u want to defend your favorite team

but your favorite team def stopped the running game of your favorite team which played a big part in your favorite team winning the game and your favorite team losing the game. those numbers were skewered by the 40 yard and 30 yard reverse so thats 2 plays and 70 yards of production.

by brady12mvp3 on Oct 4, 2011 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

If you want to take out long runs, than I'll take out the long run for a TD by ridley

and long run by BJGE. Too bad those long runs are part of the game, so it seems like I am not the only one making “excuses.”

But here is the truth. The raiders have a very bad run defense. The raiders still ran for over 100 yards against the pats. McFadden only ran the ball 14 times, and still got over 5 yards a carry.

by Jack'sAxe on Oct 4, 2011 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions

You're saying they could run it at will, and the Pats couldn't shut them down.

That’s not the case.

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by ISN on Oct 4, 2011 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions

the pats shut them down for the most part

but when they didnt the raiders broke a few long runs.

by brady12mvp3 on Oct 4, 2011 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions

I didn't say that.

by Jack'sAxe on Oct 4, 2011 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions

Then what do you mean

Did the Raiders run well against the pats D or did they not. And I don’t like how your taking credit away from Ridley and BJGE just because the Raiders got run on.

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by Chris Kole on Oct 4, 2011 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions

Im not taking credit away, I only mean that we are over thinking how they did.

It was against a bad run defense. Can’t put TOO much stalk into it. Let me see more games against better run defenses, otherwise getting a lot of yards against the raiders run defense is no surprise to me (they have been horrible against the run for years, and so far it has not been fixed).

The Raiders ran well against the pats. they got over 100 yards, which is good. Before the game? I’d thought they get gouged by mcfadden, but I cannot really tell because he only had 14 carries. RBs tend to run for 3 yards, 2 yards, 4 yards, 6 yards, 4 yards, big run. It happens to everyone. That 40 yard run by McFadden counts just as much as any other big run in the nfl, and he has broken off big runs throughout the year.

I don’t think we stopped mcfadden, as much as slow him down. And that can greatly be helped by the fact that, even though McFadden had over 5 yards a carry (and only 14 attempts) the raiders had to pass the ball to catch up (this was assisted by not only the pats great offense, but the raider’s offensive mistakes, and a few defensive ones). We slowed him down, but I wouldn’t say stopped him.

by Jack'sAxe on Oct 4, 2011 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions

When we went against the Titans a couple years ago the entire game plan was:

Stop Chris Johnson.

And they did – mostly. He still cranked off a couple long runs because he is THAT good.

This time it was: Stop Darren McFadden.

And they did – mostly. He still cranked off a couple long runs because he is THAT good.

No shame in that. When he can drop a couple hundred yards against some teams and you can limit him to less than a hundred, that is damage control. They are that good that you can’t stop them.

Consider a hand grenade. It could cut you to pieces with shrapnel, but if you end up walking away with some powder burns you feel pretty darn lucky. Run DMC didn’t kill us, he only burned us a little. That, when all is said and done, is a good day’s work.

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by SlotMachinePlayer on Oct 5, 2011 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions

Of course. The pats slowed him down which was a good thing.

Just didn’t “stop him” was what I was getting at. After all, he had a couple of darn good catches out of the backfield too. Its not like he only ran the ball.

by Jack'sAxe on Oct 5, 2011 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions

holding the leading rusher in the nfl to 75 yards

and that is also including a 40 yard run is pretty damn close of stopping him. take out the 40 yards and we held him to 35 yards on 13 carries . thats less then 3 yards a carry. it was more that they were playing from behind then them running the ball but either way the pats contained dmc.

by brady12mvp3 on Oct 6, 2011 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions

But you're a Raider. "Let's"?

Lets force Sanchez to throw, and have Rexy cry himself to sleep after the game.

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by PatNation85 on Oct 4, 2011 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions

almost rather they run the ball

the pats have a bad habit of making bad to average qbs like henne and campbell look awesome one of these JAGS threw for 400 plus and the other for 300 plus. not to mention fitzpatrick threw for 370 and rivers for approx 380 . man i know yards dont win games and all that matters is points allowed but cmon thses qbs are gouging us 15 20 yards a clip.

by brady12mvp3 on Oct 4, 2011 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions

Even 'a Raider' can hate on the Jets

Keep the faith!

by Marima on Oct 4, 2011 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions

everyone hates the jets. lol

by Jack'sAxe on Oct 4, 2011 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions

It's what brings us together, lol

Keep the faith!

by Marima on Oct 4, 2011 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions

Jets, the glue of the NFL.

…or maybe jaust that sticky stuff in the back of NY taxis that you pretend isn’t there.

by SlotMachinePlayer on Oct 5, 2011 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions

I think the Pats should be the ones grounding and pounding

Throw them for a loop. Clear the lanes and put Welker on an out route if they’re going to stick Revis on him. Force them to stack the line, then get back to the throwing. They’ve shown they’re vulnerable against the run. Pats were extremely efficient running against the Raiders with Gronkowski’s tremendous blocking.

I feel this team is infinitely more dangerous with better offensive balance and less Madden-like numbers from Brady. I felt a big reason why the team was able to attain 14-2 last year was the emergence of a running game. It was disconcerting to see them get away from it in the playoffs.

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by Adam Fox on Oct 4, 2011 5:50 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs