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The Fall of Gary Guyton (and Sergio Brown)

One under-the-radar takeaway from the game yesterday was the extreme and somewhat sad fall of Gary Guyton and Sergio Brown. Guyton was once seen as a physical specimen who could cover and Brown showed flashes last year and kept getting better, according to Coach Bill. Unfortunately, the tables seem to have turned for both. It's not like this is a surprise, given the abysmal play of both this year, but it does serve to show that poor play on this team will leave you in the doghouse quickly on this team, and it's terrifyingly hard to get out. It's not like James Sanders was out there playing above Brown or Fletcher above Guyton - we are talking about Sterling Moore and Ross Ventrone playing safety over Brown and Tarpinian, White (and I'm guessing Koutouvides) above Guyton. What?

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And yes, Guyton has been hurt, but this was a coaching decision - According to ESPN, "Even with a shortage of linebackers, Patriots coach Bill Belichick hinted that Gary Guyton's lack of playing time Sunday was due in larger part to a coach's decision than the shoulder injury that left him questionable for the game after three days of limited activity last week. 'The players that were active for the game, were active for the game,' said Belichick. 'The players that weren't active either weren't active because of injuries or because of coaching decisions.... Somebody that was active for the game, was able to play. Yeah, he missed some time this week in practice -- that was a concern going into the game -- but he was active for the game.'"

 

Translation, he's in the doghouse. It's not really surprising given he has been terrible against both the pass and the run. Sure, his injury didn't help and maybe I'm overreacting here, but I think it's safe to say that Tarpinian and White (especially White)'s impressive performance last night has dropped Gary Guyton below Jerod Mayo, Rob Ninkovich, Brandon Spikes, Dane Fletcher, Tracy White and Jeff Tarpinian on the depth chart. We don't really know about Koutouvides but Guyton is now the 7th or 8th option at linebacker for the New England Patriots. I think it's safe to say Gary might be done in New England after this season, and it's quite possible that as Brandon and Dane get healthy, Gary might have played his last meaningful snaps here. It could just all be injury and this whole FanPost ends up being a joke, but that's my impression after Bill's comments.

 

Sergio, on the other hand...probably the same deal outside of his special teams value. I don't think anyone forgets his Giants performance, so at this point it wasn't surprising to see Ventrone and Moore out there as the NFL's most hilarious safety combo for a few plays while Brown sat on the pine. Bill makes a lot of great judgments, so far Sergio over Sanders has been one of the more questionable ones.

 

It'll definitely be interesting to track both of these situations - guys who have been regarded as key backups who could start and play in a pinch and now have fallen to the complete bottom of the depth chart. Moore proof that Bill doesn't care about names, he just wants production and effort and can coach anyone up who doesn't make mental mistakes and plays tough.

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Guyton's play all year has been cringe worthy.

I certainly hope he doesn’t play too many more meaningful snaps.

by Oughat on Nov 14, 2011 4:06 PM EST reply actions  

Too bad for Guyton

hopefully this lights a fire under his butt. However, it’s great to see these other guys contributing. always good to see your depth guys perform positively. Good for White, Tarpinian, and Koutouvides, as well as Adams, and Molden. Moore, not too sure about, considering the McCourty hit.

by furiousd on Nov 14, 2011 4:43 PM EST reply actions  

for a linebacker with so much speed

he sure can’t cover. and he’s not really strong against the run either. not surprised to see him drop down the depth chart. remember when he wore the green dot for one game and it ended up going to Spikes the next week?
at least Tracy White redeemed himself on D. He had a monster jam on Dustin Keller that knocked him off his feet.
thought Sergio Brown would improve this year. Guess not.

by chris-9999 on Nov 14, 2011 6:08 PM EST reply actions  

When did Sterling Moore come to prominence for the Patriots staff-I had never heard of him until I saw him playing yesterday.
I think Moore played pretty well yesterday, much better than Sergio Brown has.

by maestro787 on Nov 14, 2011 9:56 PM EST reply actions  

He was a Raiders cast-off

Undrafted rookie free agent out of SMU. Apparently, he showed a ton of promise in the Raiders training camp and many were unhappy to see him go. Guess it had more to do with more $$/draft invested in the current starters. He could be a very nice find. Obviously, the Pats are very high on him to give him that kind of playing time in such a big game.

Can I Scream?

by Adam Fox on Nov 15, 2011 12:34 AM EST up reply actions  

I still don't mind seeing Guyton once in while

but I absolutely support not seeing Sergio Brown at all

Thad Castle: Which one of you assholes stuck his finger in my asshole?

by cruelangelT on Nov 14, 2011 10:25 PM EST reply actions  

I think Guyton will come in handy when we play the Eagels. If Vick is still alive by then, we need a fast suitable

cover LB like Guyton to spy his ass.

In GOD I TRUST>In BB i trust......faith where it belongs!!
Life is about who makes it, not who makes it the fastest! Drive slow homie.

by PatNation85 on Nov 15, 2011 2:50 AM EST reply actions  

^this

Thad Castle: Which one of you assholes stuck his finger in my asshole?

by cruelangelT on Nov 15, 2011 2:58 AM EST up reply actions  

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