Ask A Chiefs Fan - Patriots West Edition

by upamtn on Nov 15, 2011 12:46 PM EST

This week. Next week. In the wonderful world of the NFL there is always next week, unless it's Week 17. Always another week, another game, another chance to prove your worth to your fans, although in the case of the Colts we might have a few doubts. In the case ot the Kansas City Chiefs, it's not a minute too soon to move on from a loss to the Denver Broncos and ~~Jesus~~ Tim Tebow. Only problem is that it now appears the Chiefs will be moving forward without the services of one Matt "I'm No Tom Brady" Cassel.

As has been already widely reported and commented upon, Cassel has been ruled out indefinitely for a hand injury sustained in last week's dreadful loss to the Broncos. How bad was it? Tebow threw only 8 passes all game long. He conntected on just 2. One of those was TD. Right then. Enough about the past misfortunes of the Chiefs, it's time now to talk about the future misfortunes of the Chiefs, beginning with ...

... are you ready for some football under the lights in Foxboro? Of course you are! A few months ago many Arrowhead Priders were looking forward to this game, eager for the Chiefs to have the opportunity to show the Patriots and the rest of the league just how far they've come in a short time, just how good the team was this year, just how ...

Wait! Hold it! Stop the presses! OK, so the Chiefs got a few (or a lot) of breaks last yar, right? Still they had one the NFL's best RB's in Jamaal Charles, a Pro-Bowl stud S in Eric Berry, a rookie TE named TonyM who was almost making fans in KC think of TonyG and of course the Cassel-to-Bowe Connection. Now? Well, Bowe is still planning to suit up this coming week, along with Steve Breaston and Jon "Thumb Injury? What Thumb Injury?" Baldwin. We still have Tamba Hali, Flowers and Carr, DJ and ... oh, wait, we don't have Brian Waters anymore, do we? No wonder the OLine has been shaky, but such is life in the NFL, right?

Right. But hey, it's the NFL and anything can happen, right? I mean, the Ravens have lost to both the Jags and the Seachickens. See? Anything is possible in the Wacky World of the NFL. Even a Chiefs victory is possible ... right? Right? The Chiefs might even figure out how to stop Welker or Gronkowski, right?

Well, the game is on, regardless, and you can stop your polite snickering anytime now. Have a question about the Chiefs? Fire away and we'll give you all the answers we know, and even a few that we have to make up, because we're just THAT good, even if the Chiefs aren't.

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Since I am deeply depressed about not being able to see Brady-Cassel reunion, I'd like to vent a bit here

Lets make it simple: How much faith do you guys have on Cassel as a future franchise QB?
Do you think he can go back to his 2010 form (if not bring to another level) after he himself and his friends come back from injury?

Is there any chance that Polian and co will consider drafting a QB in high rounds? (ex. Matt Berkley, another Matt from USC)

Thad Castle: Which one of you assholes stuck his finger in my asshole?

by cruelangelT on Nov 15, 2011 1:01 PM EST reply actions

on the first question, pretty much none whatsoever ...

How much faith do you guys have on Cassel as a future franchise QB?

as for his 2010 form, we’ve been waiting and waiting and waiting for thet, but …

look, we went out and got him Breaston, and Baldwin, and what happens? nothing (even with both of them in the game the last couple of weeks) … look at the Denver game, and the Miami game before that … the vast majority of us just do NOT think that Cassel is “it”

btw, Bill Polian is the GM of the Colts, and he’s almost sure to get Luck or another highly regarded QB with his first round pick … as for Scott Pioli, GM of the Chiefs … I wouldn’t be surprised, although he’s as liable to wait til the second if “his guy” isn’t there (whover “his guy” might be) … but I don’t think anyone would be unhappy if the Chiefs took a first round QB

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by upamtn on Nov 15, 2011 1:29 PM EST up reply actions

Thanks and sorry, I meant Pioli

this is what happens when you make a post before lunch

Thad Castle: Which one of you assholes stuck his finger in my asshole?

by cruelangelT on Nov 15, 2011 1:44 PM EST up reply actions

Welcome Patriots West

I was one of those looking forward to this game. I still watch (and root for) Cassel, cause he’s one of the good guys and he saved us Patriots fans from a doomed, depressing season like the Colts are experiencing now.

That being said, what can you tell us about spanking new starter Tyler Palko?

Keep the faith!

by Marima on Nov 15, 2011 1:23 PM EST reply actions

I was close to calling it "Kansas City East" edition, just to see the Pats Pulpit response :-)

Palko has improved a bazillion percent since the 2010 preseason when he was the ugliest passer this side of JaMarcus Russell (he was so bad {how bad was he?} he made Brodie Croyle look good)

this 2011 preseason he had moments where he looked like a reasonable facsimile of a real, actual NFL QB … but that, of course, was preseason and we know how deceptive that can be, and other than mop-up garbage time last week he hasn’t played, so … the truth of the matter is that he’s as much a mystery to the Chiefs fans as he is to everyone else

oh, he’s left-handed if that means anything …

by upamtn on Nov 15, 2011 1:33 PM EST up reply actions

well

oh, he’s left-handed if that means anything …

~~Tim Tebow~~

I am terribly sorry, I couldn’t resist temptation.

Thad Castle: Which one of you assholes stuck his finger in my asshole?

by cruelangelT on Nov 15, 2011 1:53 PM EST up reply actions

-"He made Brodie Croyle look good"

Living here in AL there’s this undying sentiment to see fromer Tide players succeeed in the NFL. I can’t recall a QB they’ve produced that was even remotely ready to play in the NFL.
He and John Parker-Booty were total waste of draft picks. Mcelroy may have a shot, were it not for being IR’d with his thumb injury he’d have probably been started over Sancheezy by now.

GFY

by TFBismywingman on Nov 15, 2011 2:05 PM EST up reply actions

How do you think Pioli has done so far?

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by sweetjesusihatethejets on Nov 15, 2011 2:11 PM EST reply actions

fair ... some hits, some misses

call it average overall … Pioli is fallible like anyone else, like Haley and Cassel (ok, maybe we can make an exception for Eric Berry because we’re homers) … me, I’m still upset about the Brian Waters thing (and glad he’s doing well for you guys)

we still have holes to fill, and we still have a lack of depth in a lot of areas … and I suppose I was irked when the Pioli Era began because he (apparantly) didn’t trust the scouting staff of Herm Edwards and instead threw darts at a draft board

moreover, he brings in a middle ability QB before addressing the OLine and other deficiencies with the team … my thinking (and the same for most anyone you talk to) is that you build a team from the inside out … ie, start with the lines, both sides … and go from there

then too, if I was such a genius I’d be an NFL General Manager, huh? :-)

by upamtn on Nov 16, 2011 10:35 AM EST up reply actions

interesting bit...

in ‘The War Room’ about Herm’s scouts, seems they weren’t very professional in Pioli’s eyes.

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by sweetjesusihatethejets on Nov 16, 2011 2:26 PM EST up reply actions

Any given Sunday, man.

The last time they slept on the Chiefs, Bernard Pollard introduced the world to Matt Cassel.

The next time we see Pollard, he’s trying to tackle Welker and … another knee injury. Thankfully, the Ravens have him, so we can’t see him until the playoffs at the earliest.

Who do you think, realistically, is going to win your division this year? Yours is one of the most interesting ones.

Do you miss Brian Waters, and if so, it is a nostalgic, “miss him for all the good years”, or a practical, “we could use him now”, sense?

How do you feel about Haley?

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by SlotMachinePlayer on Nov 15, 2011 3:07 PM EST reply actions

I guess I'll take a shot at this one

The insane amount of injuries to our roster have left the door wide open the rest of the division. I don’t think we’re a player in the division at all and most of us have a hard time trying to see another win in our shedule.. maybe the Broncos… but we’ve all seen what just happened. If I had to guess, I’d say the the Raiders. They have the least amount of injuries and the easiest remaining schedule.
Brian Waters we miss more from a leadership standpoint. His leadership would be a real asset in the locker room right about now. That said, allowing him to walk was calculated and worth doing. His repalcement has shown that he is going to be a stud for a long time to come. Having Waters on our team would have only taken reps from a guy who (honestly) was probably better than Waters was last year.
I think there’s a growing sector of fans that are more and more skeptical of Haley. He has grown into the position, but some ague that he is still too unorthodox and that the play calling and questionable assignment of Muir as the Offensive Coordinator is hindering the team and is responsible for the nature of some of these loses (blow outs!!).
I contest that to ask any coach to have to lead a team with Cassel as the starter, your best offensive weapon (Jamaal Charles), second leading reciever (Tony Moeaki), and best defensive player (Eric Berry) all lost to injury is asking too much. I think Haley deserves another year to see what he can do with a team at full strength becuase the last time he had that, he won the division

by Lokrath on Nov 15, 2011 7:44 PM EST up reply actions

Thanks!

by SlotMachinePlayer on Nov 16, 2011 10:15 AM EST up reply actions

hm......How would you describe your pass rush outside of Tamba Hali?

Besides Dwayne Bowe, who is your biggest offensive playmaker? Breaston?

Who is least liked on the Chiefs (if Cassel is the guy, than other than him)?

What’s the coaching like? DC, OC, and HC?

Has McCluster done anything? Better this year? Stepping up?

How’s Baldwin and your other rookies?

And you must know me from Silver and Black Pride. So this game is very special for me. XD

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by Jack'sAxe on Nov 15, 2011 6:29 PM EST reply actions

pass rush outside of Hali?

I’d show you a picture (because a picture is worth a thousand words) but you wouldn’t be able to see anything because he’s known as The Invisible Man …

find him, block him and win the game … every single time

by upamtn on Nov 16, 2011 10:38 AM EST up reply actions

Oh geez...

by Jack'sAxe on Nov 16, 2011 3:19 PM EST up reply actions

btw, always good to see you, Jack ... you should pop on to AP more often

playmaker not named Bowe … hmmm, Breaston for now, yeah … Baldwin has the chance to get to that point, but he’s still young and stupid, we shall see

least liked? Cassel and TRich (RG) who’s better than many think, and Piscatelli

DC – Romeo Crennel, OC – Bill Muir (former OLine Coach) and of course Haley at HC … offensively it’s Haley’s show (with Jim Zorn helping or whatever) … Defense is all on Crennel

McCluster is a great return guy but not a lot else … he isn’t a blocker out of the backfield, and if he doesn’t have “space” to get to the outside he’s a non-factor much of the time

Baldwin has great potential, now we need a QB to help that be realized, Houston is off and on at SOLB … that’s most of the story (Hudson is on the bench behind Wiegmann, Stanzi has seen no action, Bailey is a spot player on the DLine)

yeah, you so want the Pats to beat us up like they beat the Raiders … well, I wouldn’t worry too much if I were you, Jack: one thing about the Chiefs, we’re not the Dolphins :-)

by upamtn on Nov 16, 2011 10:52 AM EST up reply actions

lol well all that im worried about is Palko (Paiko? um....) starting. We tend to not do too well against new starting QBs. lol

To be fair, Matt Moore on the Dolphins seems to be getting Better (I liked him in Carolina. Thought he had good fundamentals). But besides, that we shall see. lol

by Jack'sAxe on Nov 16, 2011 3:24 PM EST up reply actions

Yes, McCluster has never really shown the ability to do much of anything without space.

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by KeepItCopacetic on Nov 16, 2011 8:22 PM EST up reply actions

Welcome to PP! My first of many questions;

Can you prove with photographic evidence the existence of the Kansas City Chiefs cheerleading squad?

It is what it is

by Middlesex on Nov 15, 2011 6:49 PM EST reply actions

You dog, you.

by SlotMachinePlayer on Nov 16, 2011 10:15 AM EST up reply actions

click the link below and find your own favorite version of PROOF!

http://www.google.com/search?tbm=isch&hl=en&source=hp&q=kansas+city+chiefs+cheerleaders+2011&gbv=2&oq=kansas+city+chiefs+ch&aq=1&aqi=g5g-S5&aql=&gs_sm=c&gs_upl=2344l7797l0l10952l21l20l0l5l5l1l281l3579l0.4.11l15l0&safe=active

by upamtn on Nov 16, 2011 10:54 AM EST up reply actions

That's a link.

Not photographic evidence.

It is what it is

by Middlesex on Nov 16, 2011 11:26 PM EST up reply actions

Somehow there's a pick of Gronk on page 3

Don’t tell me he……hit that too

GFY

by TFBismywingman on Nov 17, 2011 1:16 PM EST up reply actions

He's everywhere you want to be....

by SlotMachinePlayer on Nov 17, 2011 4:16 PM EST up reply actions

American express travelers checks?

I can’t remember if that was their slogan or not, may be visa?.

potentially a more creative nickname than just GRONK

GFY

by TFBismywingman on Nov 18, 2011 1:08 PM EST up reply actions

Yes he's VISA

GFY

by TFBismywingman on Nov 18, 2011 1:11 PM EST up reply actions

Okay, so time for a serious question;

Do the Chiefs run the ball, pass the ball, or mix it up? I think that’s the most important factor in this game. Tom Brady is going to score touchdowns. The Chiefs D can give them a chance to win, but they can’t win this game for them all on their own.

It is what it is

by Middlesex on Nov 16, 2011 11:30 PM EST reply actions

Hard to run the ball if they get down 3 tds by end of 1st or mid 2nd qtr.

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by PatNation85 on Nov 17, 2011 2:00 PM EST up reply actions

seriously? right now we haven't a clue about the true identity of this Chiefs team ...

a year ago we were unquestionably a run first-pass second team with Jamaal Charles hitting the outside and keeping defenses honest, that allowed Cassel to occasionally complete a pass to Moeaki or Bowe

this year we have Moeaki out for the season, as well as Charles … until a few games ago nobody realized that Jackie Battle was an actual RB, but then he has a couple of great games and suddenly (drum roll, please) he all but disappears as the Chiefs go back to being clueless about his identity and their own

now, with Palko starting, I’m going to go out on a limb and say the Chiefs MIGHT try to be a pass first team (just a gut feeling) to see if Palko can air it out a little, maybe catch the Pats secondary unaware and hit Bowe, Breaston or Baldwin … and loosen it up for the running game

in fact, I’m going to take a firm stance here and say that’s precisely what’s going to happen …

… unless it doesn’;t

by upamtn on Nov 18, 2011 10:22 AM EST up reply actions

My only question is how come Todd Haley doesnt use McCluster like Sproles?

He has the big play ability if you let him get to the outside, I just dont get why he uses him like a normal RB?

Man watched that Tebow drive tonite and that was amazing! I’m sold on him even if he can’t throw the football like a standardized NFL QB.

by Yardpenalty.com on Nov 18, 2011 3:25 AM EST reply actions

if Chiefs fans knew the answer to that we'd ... well, maybe have a head coaching job in the NFL

yeah, Tebow really IS something, isn’t he … the fascinating part is that everyone … EVERYONE … knows what he’s going to do and he STILL does it

the entire Jets defense NEW he was going to run, run and run again and still couldn’t stop the guy … sticking it to Rex Ryan, gotta love it

by upamtn on Nov 18, 2011 10:26 AM EST up reply actions

I must say he's got my attention.

Yea I have been a huge McCluster fan since Ole Miss and was hoping he’d be a Patriot, but at least he went to the family. You never cross tha family. HeHe. Seriously though, Palko kind of scares me. He can scramble and we all know Cassel is the King of not scrambling or I should say holding on to the ball way too long. Would you say it’s more of Cassel or the O-line being your biggest problem in your inconsistencies on offense? I know the O-line is not so hot, but they were running like crazy last year! Cassel might have to go swim in a moat with Gators if you know what Im saying!

by Yardpenalty.com on Nov 19, 2011 3:45 AM EST up reply actions