Patriots Offensive Issues Run Deep
After the Oakland game in the black-hole, we noted it mildly, but attributed it to becoming more balanced whilst playing in one of the most hostile environments in the league. It was further in evidence in back to back games against the Jets and Cowboys, but we put it down to back to back games against the Ryan boys! Last week against the Steelers, the realisation began to finally sink in, as the Patriots barely mustered any offense at all. Like the truest of fans we undoubtedly are, we tried to rationalise away the fear, but the Giant defense exposed the all too real fact for all the world to see - it appears that some teams actually can stop this Patriot offense.
I distinctly remember the 45 - 3 shellacking of the Jets in Foxborough last year, watching the game and hearing Jon Gruden salivate over the Patriots offense and claiming that the Patriots were evolving how offense would be played in the NFL. Within the space of less than a year, it seems that Gruden's confidence may have been misplaced - not perhaps in the system itself but in the personnel which the Patriots currently choose to execute such a system with. Teams are starting to key in on the Patriots passing attack as they have come to two vital realisations - one perhaps more worrying than the other...
Firstly, it must be noted that I said some teams seem to understand how to slow the Patriot attack - that would be those teams who can bring pressure with four (or sometimes less people). Some have suggested that teams who can play man coverage against the Patriots receivers are having success and yes, that is true to a certain extent, but the common factor amongst all these defenses is that the Patriots are slowed when teams can bring the pressure with 4 players, dropping others into zone/man coverage or a mixture.
Now, lots of teams aspire to bring pressure with less and you will no doubt see the Giants employ a similar game plan against Aaron Rogers and the Packers in a few weeks time. However, a HUGE difference you will see is the safety play of opposing teams against the likes of the Packers and Saints as oppose to how teams are playing vs the Patriots. Against offenses such as the Packers and Saints, teams are required to keep their safeties back in deep zone coverage in order to respect the deep threats these teams have at the receiver positions. As we all know this does indeed open up the middle and intermediate areas of the field for the slot receivers and tight ends to occupy.
However, look at how the Steelers played defense against the Patriots. They basically played a single high safety for much of the game, and were then able to apply pressure with 4 men. They manned up on the outside but also dropped linebackers and brought down a safety to either double a specific Patriot receiver or simply occupy a zone in cramming the middle of the field where the Patriot receivers do most of their damage.
Consequently, because the Patriots have no respectable deep threat whatsoever, the field becomes more condensed with less room to get open and the teams that can apply pressure with 4 rushers are getting home with their rush (12 sacks in the last 4 for Brady!). It's the scenario we dreaded when Randy Moss left the team but only now do teams appear to be understanding that they no longer have to respect the deep ball - that they can take their chances by cramming the intermediate and short zones whilst single covering the outside receivers - it's the game plan the Jets perfected so well in the playoffs last year, and while we all said at the time not all teams have the personnel to duplicate this plan, because teams don't have to respect a deep threat, they have realised they no longer need all world corners to do the trick.
One thing I will say at this point is that the Patriots do not appear to substitute and confuse the defense half as much this year - I still laugh about that 45 -3 game where the Jets simply looked utterly lost amongst all the formations, pre-snap motions and substitutions. In 2011, the Patriots appear to have simplified the offense to a certain extend and want to ‘out-execute' the defense - well, I'm sorry but without all the confusion, defenses are taking away what the Patriots do best (intermediate throws) much more easily and in the absence of either a deep threat or a return to a more complex offense, the smarter defenses will continue to dictate.
However, the other problem that perhaps people overlook is in maybe the last place people would look for a problem on offense - Tom Brady. Please don't think I am suggesting Tom is playing poorly but let's all agree on one thing - Brady has an average deep arm at best - and it appears to be getting worse.
Before everyone screams "look at his arm in 2007...did you see some of those throws!?" - yes some were terrific, but the guy is one of the best ever so they should be, but go and look at the highlights on YouTube; some of those 2007 throws were absolutely horrible (and when I say horrible, I mean real floaters where Randy was waiting for it to come down) and but for Moss, would have been interceptions.
When I say worse, I do not mean losing arm strength, as Brady has never has consistent downfield velocity. What's worse is that in recent months, Brady seems to throw the deep ball scared - he throws it like he doesn't want it to be intercepted so either over or under throws the ball. He is limiting the damage rather than going for the kill with conviction and it's hurting this offense.
That's why, before clamouring for a deep threat or more downfield throws, we must really ask the question as to whether that can be a consistently efficient function of this offense i.e. can Brady consistently make those deep throws enough for teams to start backing off their coverage rather than condensing it? Certainly not with the current offensive games plans and personnel, but even with a healthy Taylor Price (who got good downfield separation last week in Pittsburgh), can Brady execute those downfield throws to a higher level, because as long as he and this team can't, opponents are going to continue to show a lack of respect to the Patriots deep passing game and clog the shorter passing lanes - teams simply know the Patriots aren't going deep...certainly not with any confidence!
Essentially, the Patriots currently have no deep passing game, either because they don't have the receiving talent to consistently make plays downfield or Brady can't consistently get the ball there. Either way, if the 2011 Patriots can't incorporate more confusion for opposing defenses, they will simply not be able to out-execute smarter defenses unless a deep threat emerges from the current roster, with a QB confidently and accurately throwing downfield.
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I would really love to disagree...
but I can’t. This is exactly what I’m seeing as well. Unfortunately, this is a very well thought out and perceptive article.
"If you know how to cheat, start now." - Earl Weaver
You've nailed it, I believe
Part of the solution is to force those inside defenders to attack the line of scrimmage, opening up the passing lanes for Welker and the tight ends. The only way to do that is to run the ball with authority, forcing defenses to bring extra defenders into the box. Unfortunately, we can’t seem to do that.
We attempted to run on the Giants early but had mixed results. Ideally, we would work out those kinks and pound the rock. I don’t know that this offensive line and group of running backs can really produce the kind of running game.
Deep in enemy territory
Any Patriot offensive problems are very minor.
Outside of game planning and preparation, the only real problem the patriots offense have is Brady syncing up with Ocho.
Imagine the patriots bringing in a “deep threat” and Brady being unable to sync up with him.
Last week Taylor Price became a wide open deep threat and brady threw a bad pass. I think with more persistence, it may get better.
Ain't nothing wrong with the offense!
There’s nothing wrong with the offense that the defense could’nt cure How the hell is Brady & co. gonna get any rhythm if they can’t get on the field??? This is the result of Belichick buying into the myth of him being a" GENUIS" the past few drafts.He’s a genius when it comes to accumulating draft picks.But a dud when it comes to his actual picks. Brady has more offensive weapons NOW than when he won the S.B.s. What we don’t have is a freakin DEFENSE!
So the game was scoreless at halftime because our defense was bad?
While I agree that the defense couldn’t close out the game, and has larger issues overall, this loss was more on the offense in my opinion.
Deep in enemy territory
This.
If the offense did anything other than completely suck, that games goes in a totally different direction.
No cuz the Giants were stuck on stupid along with the Pats for most of the game.
by Pat's apologist on Nov 7, 2011 3:39 PM EST up reply actions
Thats a sad rebound for your argument.
You are offering no basis. You are just simply saying “It was the giants offense stinking, not the pats defense being very good” with no basis whatsoever.
And even then, the pats defense continually got the giants offense 3 and out, and gave Brady and CO. PLENTY of opportunities. But hey, they couldn’t score a point until the 3rd quarter.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
DUDE,i’m a football fan i see what i see on the field.Both teams were out of sync.The difference being,the Giants “D” sucked LESS than the Pats “D”. You can analyze it and disect anyway YOU CHOOSE. It’s not that complicated.FACT : Patriots “D” stinks on ice.PERIOD.
by Pat's apologist on Nov 7, 2011 9:50 PM EST up reply actions
Not even close
A defense that “stinks on ice” wouldn’t have kept a red-hot team scoreless through the first half. The offense had something like 6 or 7 possessions before it put up any points at all. You’re trying to say that the defense sucks because we ended up losing the game, but then are you going to say the Ravens defense sucks too? They’ve lost a couple games despite the fact that they are hands down the best defense in the league. It doesn’t matter how amazing a defense plays if the offense just keeps giving the ball back to the opposing team almost in FG range to begin with.
by indy pats fan on Nov 7, 2011 10:00 PM EST up reply actions
Guess you don’t get the whole RHYTYM thing. Sorry.
by Pat's apologist on Nov 8, 2011 9:50 PM EST up reply actions
The Giants offense didn't execute an offensive play beyond the 50 yard line...
…until midway through the 2nd quarter, when the Giants had a holding penalty and brought them back to the Giants side. Then the next time they made it across, they botch a snap and sends the ball back to the Giants side.
The only play they could get off in the first half on the Patriots side of the field was a single incomplete pass. The defense forced two three-and-outs and another 5 down drive in the first half.
The offense?
1) BJGE rips a first down play on the first run, and then on their new set of downs, they have to punt.
2) Three and Out
3) Interception
4) 12 yards and punt
5) Three and Out
6) Missed field goal
The offense had two productive drives in the first half. Brady killed one with an interception. They couldn’t finish at the half and missed a field goal. Completely the defense’s fault.
Wow not bad at all
I had not read that article yet. Pat’s apologist is not completely wrong either but Brady’s strengths that won us three bowl games was the short to mid field passes. Defenses began to sniff it out. Enter Moss probably the greatest deep threat to date of all time. No problem, throw it up and I’ll go get it. Price is not going to be that guy.
If we stay with the current team or one similar to it next year we will see a decline in wins in wins. Let’s face some simple facts here. Brady is 34 and isn’t getting any younger. I know I said to myself at the beginning of this year I’ll give him until 37 before he calls it quits. The team maybe entering the crossroads a bit earlier then expected but every team goes through it. It just maybe that time that is all.
HIs deep throws have been horrible
Like you said, Moss made half those throws by adjusting his route/speed, but Brady did have a confident throw because of that. Now 1/3 the throws the receiver can’t even get a hand on because they are too far away. 1/3 are underthrown. 1/3 are thrown back toward the defender. And the last 3rd I can see he’s not standing flat footed and calm like he used to when throwing to Moss. He’s rushing it and his body is moving to the side in most cases. This is causing the ball to tail a bit.
It’s a confidence and mechanics issue. They can be corrected, but he needs a guy he can trust on the other end. Unless Taylor Price is that guy, we will see more of the same. The team is still good enough to beat any other team any week. But the chance of them winning every week have gone down.
Brady's off accuracy may be contribute ld to
Throwing to 5ft 10 receivers as he has to almost be perfect as they ain’t winning no jump ball. That’s y they hardly ever run fades in the endzone, nobody to catch it save Gronk
Wilderness is not a luxury but a necessity of the human spirit.
Edward Abbey
by TONYBOI08 on Nov 7, 2011 3:31 PM EST via mobile reply actions
His accuracy does come into question... I think now.
Only because we have a 3 game stretch of evidence pretty much. But hey, that can be contributed with playcalling, and execution from the overall team as well. Its never just one guy, or at least its usually just not one guy.
What I saw yesterday, was horrible throwing by Brady, and that does worry me. But I think that Brady can very well fix upon this.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
pressure is the cause
I give Brady a tremendous amount of credit for being so diplomatic. He’s kept a smile on his face but you can see the confidence is just disappearing.
I’m reading about people calling this the end of the patriots and why after only 3 losses is everybody freaking out! Is it the end of the patriots? No and the reason is very simple, unlike their cross state neighbor the Red Sox. The NFL’s top players, coaches and owners respect the true image of the Patriots, Bob Kraft. Kraft when he first bought the team needed a name to boost his brand and who better then Parcels. Now, however I think he knows the sport a little better. Will BB be fired? I doubt it because I think he can still coach and he can be a great judge of talent but not at the same time.
Regardless of all the opinions of whether Brady has a weak arm, whether the receivers are too short or whether or not the coaches can do their job. I think that we can all agree that Tom is not going to be playing at age 40 and that the time is approaching a little faster then we would like that this franchise will be changing pretty drastically by the 2013 season.
I cant believe you bring up the O, and don't mention the running game once
That is exactly the problem. Pats are too dependant/addicted to the passing game.
If you don’t have the speed to get by them, you need to be able to bring them closer to the line. Use your backs to gain yards, get the defense thinking differently and open the field in a different way.
Chuck Weiss, ye are missed.
by JonnyNYC on Nov 7, 2011 10:42 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I dont see them making the playoff;s
Honestly this game against the Giants,showed it..we have 3 TE;s and only use 2 why?.where is that 1000YD rusher we had last YR?..ever think thats why Pats only gave HIM a 1yr contract!!!?…OCHO is a 100% failure!!!!.8 games and still looks LOST!! or is it still in AWE!!..I dont see a TEAM playing out there..I mean too Me Brady is on the decline!!!..14 interceptions thru 8 games?..as Others are saying He will finish with well above 20 interceptions…PATS are too OLD at the positions they NEED—younger players there DB;s? hahah..they dont have 1 that would make anyother team thats why there here in NE..
everyone screaming for a DEF-Cord..for a OFF-cord..well send ur complaints too the MAN that controls that..Mr KRAFT!!!!..not the GM!!!!…I see them losing to JETS!!!..I see jets finally winning the Tittle!!!! and Buffalo in 2nd place and PATS in 3rd…right Now they can not beat anyone!!!!..OFF lost game SUNDAY!!!!!
10 ints not 14
In GOD I TRUST>In BB i trust......faith where it belongs!!
Life is about who makes it, not who makes it the fastest! Drive slow homie.
Lose two games in a row and some people think the season is over
And Tom always had 10-16 ints except these past years, no panic just make sure too make playoffs and win as that all people remember unless u go 16-0…….
Wilderness is not a luxury but a necessity of the human spirit.
Edward Abbey
by TONYBOI08 on Nov 8, 2011 1:28 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Use 3 TEs: this would just cause the defense to fill up the middle of the field even more. The way to combat them flooding the middle would be to have more 3 WR sets with people capable of running deep.
The Law Firm (last year’s 1000 yard rusher) has been hurt recently and that’s why people assume he’s not getting as much action as usual.
Ocho was open several times this last game and Brady simply missed him, either with a bad throw or not even noticing him.
You MIGHT be able to argue that Brady is on the decline, but let’s be real here. When you’ve been putting up stats like he has these past few years, he could play quite a bit worse and still be among the best in the league. That’s not to say I think he is on the decline, just if he really is.
Too old? We have 2 great young backup QBs, 4 young RBs, 2 2nd year TEs who are among best in the league, and most of our o-line is fairly young with the future players already in place for everything but center. We even have a few young WRs with Price showing pretty good potential. As far as defense, our LBs and DBs are all young now that Bodden is gone, and we’ve got some young players as part of our depth at d-line although we could use more.
I’m pretty sure after what McCourty showed last year, just about every team would clamor to pick him and his rookie contract up in case this is simply a sophomore slump. Arrington certainly isn’t a star but he’s definitely good enough to make a team. Chung definitely would. So that’s 3 right there that would 100% definitely get picked up off waivers immediately.
And yup, losing last second to a great team means they probably can't beat anyone
by indy pats fan on Nov 8, 2011 12:12 PM EST up reply actions
Not to jinx it, but...
We’ll almost certainly make the playoffs on account of our schedule. The problem is everything after we make the playoffs.
by CanadianPatriotsFan on Nov 8, 2011 8:34 AM EST reply actions
Right on spot
I have been saying this for a while. Brady can not throw deep with accuracy on a consistent basis. Even if he had a deep threat receiver Brady would hesistate to throw into coverage in fear of an INT. Defenses have shortened the field and play the Pats offense tight knowing the predictable plays the Pats offense offer. One way to stop the defenses from playing short is to start hitting the outside receivers with 20-25 yard passes down the sideline. The safties are playing short and covering the middle for the predictable pass to either the slot receiver or theTEs. Price needs more snaps. He can get seperation from a CB and will draw a saftey over to cover, opening the middle for bigger plays with other receivers if he is not open. The offense is stuck with the same predictable short plays and BB is not making adjustments to open the field. As long as the Pats play the short game on offense the other teams defense will limit and slow down the Pats offense. Pats will not see a consistent deep threat pass on their offense until Brady is gone and rocket arm Mallet is the QB.

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