Thoughts After the Game...
by Middlesex on Dec 11, 2011 7:30 PM EST
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Fair warning, was experiencing drama with the opposite sex during parts of the game and did not get to watch it as closely as usual.
The Front D:
Probably the most important key to this game was containing Roy Helu. He wasn't contained. Need to review tape to figure out who was most resposible. Helo got over two-dozen carries for an average of almost 5 yards an attempt. Royster picked up another half-dozen himself with a remarkable average of over 7 yards per attempt. Don't you miss Brandon Spikes?
The pressure on Grossman was good at times but non-existent at other times. Then again, with the BS roughing-the-passer calls on both sides...
Andre Carter had a decent homecoming. A strip-sack returned by Wilfork for a TD isn't bad. A BS roughing-the-passer call on him was just that; BS. Could have been argued that he was pushed towards Grossman's legs, and even then, wasn't the ball thrown before the hit? Why does the hit take away the interception? I guess the refs decided to make it up to us with a bogus flag on Redskins MLB London Fletcher for roughing Tom Brady with an arm allegedly to the head.
Brandon Deaderick looks like a better pass-rusher from the LDE position than Shaun Ellis has been thoughout the year. Need to review his performance against the run.
Oh that secondary!
Devin McCourty was getting picked on before his injury and now after. Thought he had some good flashes towards the end and I thought bad officiating took that interception away.
Ihedigbo didn't look great even when he wasn't looking seriously injured. Chung is needed.
Need to review to get a better idea of how Jones, Edelman, and Slater did.
The Offense;
Thought the RBs should have had more chances. Woodhead had a great game and the rest did well with the worst performance by Faulk being just shy of 4 yards per attempt. Wendell looks like the best Center we've had since Dan Koppen.
Improved run-blocking and good pass-protection(0 sacks) from the O-Line.
Inconsistent play from Tom Brady despite the lack of sacks.
7 different Patriots caught balls from Tom Brady. Only 3 of them caught more than one throw. Deion Branch had another 0-catch performance.
Gronk. Nuff said.
In conclusion;
Trap-game potential aside, this game should have never been so close. Just like the last game.
Your thoughts/complaints/praises about the game?
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Devin McCourty was getting picked on before his injury and now after. Thought he had some good flashes towards the end and I thought bad officiating took that interception away.
First half: he defended 1-4 passes 1 of them a PI
Second Half: He defended 2-3 passes I believe. In any case, he was thrown to about 3 times in the second half, and looked much better than the first half.
Still waiting on him to play good a full game though. We need him too.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
Too many missed opportunities
Three drives inside the five resulting in two field goals and an interception. Really need to get those in the endzone.
Really need a Defense that doesn't require pats to ats
To put up 30+ a game
Wilderness is not a luxury but a necessity of the human spirit.
Edward Abbey
by TONYBOI08 on Dec 11, 2011 8:32 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I miss Chung and Spikes
Not that I think they will be the antidote to every problem on the defense, but the running game and secondary play—both of which were atrocious all afternoon—would definitely see some improvement.
Also, I had to be “that guy,” but wow, the officiating was absolutely awful…and that goes for both sides. Not excusing the defense, but I thought a handful of the Redskins drives were extended by some very, very questionable calls.
Can I Scream?
Yeah that Wilfork UR and Carter RtP really helped the Skins back in the game.
Pedey: Dear Playstation, So MLB the Show '09 says I can't hit the high and inside, huh? That's ridiculous, ask Ramon.
Ramon: Yeah, he can hit it. In fact, if I were to die today and went to some weird...(grabs script) some weird limbo afterlife, where I can gaze at one thing for eternity. Dustin's swing, or my daggers? (DAUGHTERS!) daughter's first steps, I would choose that swing.
Lazer Show: I can hit that pitch!
by BrokenbatGrandSlam on Dec 11, 2011 8:49 PM EST up reply actions
And the McCourty PI on 3rd-and-18
That one might be more of a boneheaded play by McCourty than anything, but I do think it was a little ticky tack considering they seemed to “let them play” the remainder of the game with WRs and DBs.
Can I Scream?
I thought Fletcher looked good out of the gate
But… the missed offensive opportunities were frustrating.
Keep the faith!
Wide open Welker, Hernandez, Gronkowski
on a few very key red zone drives. At least we all know that’s an aberration with this team, but still, I expected a more focused effort all the way around from this team after the Indianapolis hiccup last week.
Can I Scream?
Pass D played well, I'd say
The stats look big, but their inflated by the HB pass ridiculousness, and the one-in-a-million bomb to Stallworth. Take those two passes out and the Skins barely broke 200 through the air. The DB’s looked awful at times, but there were plenty of points where they looked a lot tighter than past weeks.
by The Burning Scheyer Jersey on Dec 11, 2011 9:51 PM EST reply actions
No they did no.
They held up in the redzone and that’s wat saved them. Also u can’t take certain plays out the game.
Wilderness is not a luxury but a necessity of the human spirit.
Edward Abbey
by TONYBOI08 on Dec 11, 2011 10:07 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
The two plays were abberrations
Flukes if you will, and it’s not giving an honest assessment of the performance when you have those two plays inflating the numbers.
I’m not saying the Pass D was outstanding, but it was adequate, more adequate than we’ve seen in the past.
by The Burning Scheyer Jersey on Dec 11, 2011 10:27 PM EST up reply actions
Aberrations?
Did you not watch Vince Young complete nearly identical bombs early on when we played the Eagles?
Can I Scream?
You have to take more than two games into account.
A lot of people like to look at recent performances, but we should really look at the overall picture. Normally, deep passes do not happen. Last game they were horrible on defense.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
Okay, throw in the Colts game
Garbage time or not, there were several bombs from Orlovsky to Garcon. It seemed as if this defense was engineered to prevent the big play, but I’ve seen quite a few of them over the past several weeks.
Can I Scream?
If by several weeks, you mean only 3 games.
3 games were they allowed big pass after big pass.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
It was against Grossman..
Our secondary is awfull. McCourty is hitting the Sophmore slump hard, Arrington is an average cover corner, Ihedigbo’s greatest asset is being the scariest looking motherfucker on the defense, and whoever else we plug in for the other safety spot any given week is terrible. This secondary is atrocious to the point where I don’t know if it worth rooting to play against running teams in the playoffs because that may just mean they can both run and pass on our defense…
Broncos fans believe their going to beat us
"Thirty-seven points on the best defense in the league, suck my d–k" - Bill Belichick
The Ryan Brothers: Two brother's who never played a down as an NFL player, Yet feel the need to trash talk like they are in the Hall Of Fame
And who's to say they won't?
After consecutive close games against bottom-feeders?
Denver has an actual defense that can stop us. I wouldn’t be surprised one bit if we get Tebow Time’d.
McCourty
I think he played well except for the Stallworth catch, but besides that he made good plays.
by JerodMayoFan on Dec 11, 2011 10:28 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I've been wondering if he was supposed to have safety help on that play.
No other defensive backs around on a pass that deep? It didn’t seem like it was cover 3 which inclines me to think there should have been a safety near the fastest receiver on Washington.
I've been saying this all season
where is the safety help for McCourty? Every long pass he’s been burned on is due to him being on a island and we expecting hm to be revis or something. McCourty actually covered the underneath well on that play but there was no way he could have gone over the top and stop the pass. Thats where the safety needed to come in and help deep…except no one was there.
I feel bad for the guy
I don’t think that anyone has been hurt more by the lack of continuity in the secondary than McCourty. He just doesn’t have the experience and the trust that he needs to have with these safeties, and it makes him torn between trying to do everything himself and just trusting the system. Throw in the shortened offseason and the injury, and things couldn’t have gone much worse for him. It’s a shame to see so many folks giving up on him.
He was never going to be a guy who could take on any WR 1-on-1 and just shut them down. His strength is just doing his job and not trying to be that guy. I think he just needs some trust and leadership in that secondary to get back to that. With a game against Denver coming up, I sometimes wonder what it would have been like if the Pats went after Brian Dawkins a couple years ago when Philly threw him out.
by Aluminum Penguin on Dec 12, 2011 8:52 AM EST up reply actions
Tripplet and his team BETTEr NOT get a playoff game
The better team won here but his team was crap last week too, forget the game but it was awful. They were inconsistent all night and clearly just interpret the rules on the fly. Horrible reffing from them. The Fletcher and Vince penalties reminded me of the John lynch fiasco from 05 or so where he gets fined for a hit like Wolforks and the next week goes to just tag the guy down but he pulls up and runs for a td. I hate when refs interject themselves into the games by virtue of their incompetence.
Triplette's crew is awful
The Packers-Giants game he called last week was terrible; so many missed calls both ways.
13.
Stallworth beating McCourty...
…looked extremely similar to Riley Cooper beating Arrington. It seemed as if the safety was supposed to help out, but was out of position.
I noted that above
a disturbing trend, to say the least. It’s not bend-don’t-break if you give up a handful of 50+ yard bombs a game. We need Chung back in the worst way.
Can I Scream?
I think BB needs to settle on a lineup
I know injuries have forced his hand in some cases, and I know that he always has a quick trigger finger when it comes to pulling guys out of the lineup, but at this point in the year I believe BB needs to determine the pecking order.
Right now the defense is chaos. I actually believe that there’s a lot of talent, and they’ve definitely shown positive flashes at times. But they don’t know each other, they don’t trust each other, and at the end of many big plays there’s often someone scratching their head trying to decipher the actions of a teammate.
The regular season has been kind of an extended training camp for a lot of the defense. Figuring out where new guys fit and trying to work with their unique abilities. Now I think it’s time for a single set of guys to get as much work together as possible. In order to work together as a true team, I think you need to really know what that guy next to you is thinking. Even if it’s just for a couple of games, I think that the continuity of knowing who’s going to be there could make a real difference.
by Aluminum Penguin on Dec 12, 2011 9:12 AM EST reply actions
That sounded way too negative
After all, I can’t even imagine what the ceiling for Rob Gronkowski might be. His ascent makes it seem like he has the potential to become the best player in the entire league. For a long time. BB’s work at the draft is sometimes questioned, but this guy is making him look like a true genius.
by Aluminum Penguin on Dec 12, 2011 9:37 AM EST up reply actions
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