Vincent Fuller Player Profile
The Patriots once again added a new defensive back to their secondary. For those of you who wanted Phillip Adams to return, he's signed with the Seattle Seahawks. This new defensive back is Vincent Fuller and you might be surprised with his potential as a defensive back. Fuller was a 4th round pick out of Virginia Tech and spent six years with the Tennessee Titans and was the key nickelback (slot corner) for his final five. However, the Lions were committed to other cornerbacks (Cortland Finnegan, Alterraun Verner, Jason McCourty), so Fuller was expendable. Fuller even renegotiated his contract from over $2 million to $750K to be a competitive player for a roster spot, but was unable to beat the younger corners. As a result, Fuller was released as Jim Schwartz and the Detroit Lions were looking to take on former Titans players.
Fuller played one game with the Lions before being placed in injured reserve with an elbow injury. As Mike Reiss has mentioned, Patriots football adviser Floyd Reese was the Titans GM when the Titans drafted Fuller out of college.
I watched six of Fuller's games (three from 2009, three from 2010) and had the following notes:
General Facts
Played at Virginia Tech, played free safety as a freshman, cornerback as a sophomore and junior, and was back at free safety as a senior. Has versatility.
Special teams player.
Fuller ran the 40/3 cone/20 shuttle in 4.44s/6.53s/3.81s. Those times are blazing. Compare to top rookie Rahim Moore with 4.58s/6.98s/3.96s or noted veteran LaRon Landy with 4.35s/7.11s/4.36s. Those three times mean that Fuller can fly down the field extremely quickly. He can also turn on a dime and change direction extremely quickly. Film study confirms.
Noted for his range and his zone skills during the draft. Questions about his angles.
Watched him defend Dallas Clark, Austin Collie, Demaryius Thomas, Steve Smith (NYG), Miles Austin, Davone Bess, Danny Amendola, and Donnie Avery. That's a mix of receiving tight end (Clark), slot receivers (Collie, Smith, Bess, Amendola), speedsters (Thomas, Avery), and big possession receivers (Austin). He fared well in all contests.
Positives
Physical off the snap and can engage and bump slot receivers off of their route.
Has elite reaction time which allows him to prevent any separation by a sudden change in motion by the slot receiver.
Has great instincts and can blow up screens and plays in the backfield.
Took fairly good angles from what I saw on tape.
Tremendous feel for zone coverage and is able to deter quarterbacks from throwing in his direction.
Doesn't bite on fakes by either the quarterback or the receiver.
Able to stick with his receiver through traffic and will usually stay engaged.
Always in position so if he does allow the reception, there will be no YAC.
Doesn't fully commit to a coverage direction until the receiver is committed. Allows him to stay in the receiver's hip.
Versatility as a safety and a nickel corner, plays well in the box.
Willing run defender.
Special Teams player.
Negatives
Struggles to disengage from receiver and tight ends in run defense. If they get their hands on him, he tends to get blown backwards. He defends the run best when given space and is able to weave through traffic.
Needs to work on wrapping up running backs. Saw a few slip through because of poor form. Doesn't have bad form when tackling receivers.
Injury history. Fibula, Arm, Elbow, so could be injury prone but, more importantly, could be rusty as he's been released from IR.
Overall, Fuller looks like a great player. If he can figure out how to better defend the run (ie: become stronger), he can actually be a key player moving forward. Floyd Reese liked Fuller enough to draft him in Tennessee and to bring him to New England, which means that there's familiarity and continued interest. Fuller would become the best slot corner on the team and could potentially be the best free safety on the team, which is definitely added value. Hopefully he can knock off the rust and contribute quickly.
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Fantastic stuff Rich.
I’ve been looking around everywhere for something like this on Fuller and this is exactly what I needed.
Like you said, the Patriots are obviously weakest at the FS position, because even when/if Chung comes back he’s more suited for a SS or hybrid role because he lacks the elite coverage skills.
It would seem like Fuller is a better version of Nate Jones, who is working out pretty well so far- both can play the star, both excel on ST, but Fuller seems like more of a traditional safety.
I read somewhere that he’s fourth for Tennessee all time for defensive touchdowns, which is reasonably impressive.
If Fuller works out well, can shake the rust and works well in coverage it will help out in the base moreso than the sub packages.
Did you happen to see what his positioning is like on playaction plays? I saw that you said he doesn’t bite on quarterback fakes but wasn’t sure if that included playaction, which has been the weakest area for the Patriots’ safeties this season.
Thanks for doing this!
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Fuller has 6 INTs...
…4 of which he has returned for TDs. He can play.
As for the playaction, I thought he did a good job of sticking with his receiver. He has the recovery ability to still get in the run defense if/when the ball actual is handed off.
by Richard Hill on Dec 21, 2011 3:19 PM EST up reply actions
Great stuff on Fuller, Rich.
Very encouraged by his signing. The fact that Floyd Reese knows him from Tennessee. The fact that he took less money to compete for a spot on the Titans. Sounds like a stand-up guy.
I’m glad the Pats are doing what they can to shore up our defense, though. They realize Edelman and Slater trying to be DBs just won’t cut it. They’re just not Troy Brown, man.
I learned how to make a sig just so it can say "DFA Darnell MacDonald". That means it must happen.
even on offense
Edelman and Slater aren’t Troy Brown. Sad days, man. Sad days.
"Every time I call it a game, you call it a business. Every time I call it a business, you call it a game."
by JohnHannahRules on Dec 21, 2011 2:44 PM EST up reply actions
edelman is close
he looks better than some of the other guys out there
New England Patriots: 10-3 against the Dolphins, Chargers, Bills, Raiders, Jets (x2), Cowboys, Steelers, Giants, Chiefs, Eagles, Colts, and Redskins.
by freeland1787 on Dec 21, 2011 4:42 PM EST up reply actions
He's better, but he ain't close to being Troy.
TBrown was a premier possession receiver (if such a thing exists). Wes Welker, if Wes had more speed but less quickness. Edelman’s miles away.
"Every time I call it a game, you call it a business. Every time I call it a business, you call it a game."
by JohnHannahRules on Dec 22, 2011 1:22 PM EST up reply actions
Thank God
I never what to see Matthew Slater and Sergio Brown as our starting safeties again..uuh I just cringe thinking about it.
Taylor Price will be the starter by the end of the season (Said before Training Camp)
Yeah, when Slater came in he had played WR, Safety and was good on special teams.
The first year, he had both the offensive and defensive playbooks. After a year, Hoodie said he only had to play offense.
He’s not great at offense, but Hoodie already showed his hand by letting him pursue the better of his two talents.
It just makes sense that he’d be a worse safety than he is a wide receiver … and he’s not that good of a wide receiver.
On special teams, though, he’s a star.
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.
Some people can learn from the mistakes of others, while some people need to pee on the electric fence themselves.
Belichick is looking for a new name for his boat: VI Rings sounds pretty good.
by SlotMachinePlayer on Dec 21, 2011 3:55 PM EST up reply actions
Free safety, slot corner, and special teams contributer...
Definitely sounds like just what the doctor ordered. After not playing all year I’ll keep my expectations low, but it makes perfect sense to give a guy like this a shot. Just an average free safety would be a big help alongside Chung. It’s not like it would take much to wrestle playing time from the current batch of safeties, so hopefully this guy has stayed in shape and is a quick study!
by Aluminum Penguin on Dec 21, 2011 4:24 PM EST reply actions
maybe he is the answer at the 2nd safety spot
hope he is
New England Patriots: 10-3 against the Dolphins, Chargers, Bills, Raiders, Jets (x2), Cowboys, Steelers, Giants, Chiefs, Eagles, Colts, and Redskins.
Finally a db one can be optimistic about.
Seems like a good find this late in season. Good chance he solidifies secondary if he stays healthy.
All they need to do is add Sterling, maybe Moore and dump the dead weight.
Fuller is now our most veteran DB.
Even if he can’t contribute much direclty on the field he can offer some guidance. I think he’ll eventualy start alongside Patrick Chung unless another injury hits him. Slater tries his best, Sergio sucks, and Ihedigbo has been mediocre for too long now. Nate Jones is OK but maybe not even average for the NFL level. I realy don’t see how Fuller can’t advance past all of them on the depth chart unless he has more than one broken arm.
BTW, we really need Patrick Chung back.
It is what it is
Can he play safety?
Oh wait, he IS a safety…never mind
This question has become my reflex by now
Thad Castle: Which one of you assholes stuck his finger in my asshole?
The question is…
Why the hell did you have 6 Titans games hanging round ready to watch???
by quadruple option on Dec 21, 2011 6:35 PM EST reply actions
He is Richard Hill, and therefore amazing.
Move along.
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.
Some people can learn from the mistakes of others, while some people need to pee on the electric fence themselves.
Belichick is looking for a new name for his boat: VI Rings sounds pretty good.
by SlotMachinePlayer on Dec 21, 2011 6:58 PM EST up reply actions
NFL Rewind.
It’s magic, man. Essential for a nutjob fan of the sport. Able to flip through all six games in under an hour.
by Richard Hill on Dec 21, 2011 7:51 PM EST up reply actions
Any NFL game any season
or just the current one?
Taylor Price will be the starter by the end of the season (Said before Training Camp)
Any game from the previous three or four seasons.
I think that’s when they started doing it.
by Richard Hill on Dec 22, 2011 2:16 AM EST up reply actions
Or..... you have this!

But I can believe the NFL Rewind excuse…. for now. ;)
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He's mediocre it's a fine rotation
With Chung ihedibo him and jones. If the can provide stability at the position that’s what we need. We don’t need superstars just stability.
I think people are discounting edleman as a slot DB. He is a sure tackler, provides energy n seems to stick with the we pretty well. The advantage of having played wr is that if he gets his hands on the ball he will catch it. Back in the day people were shocked at browns ints, he had good hands as a wr, why would he lose that as a DB. Same for edleman.
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