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New England Patriots Links 12/05/11 - Tom Brady: 'The Middle Part of the Game was Awesome'

Andre Carter responds to a question about giving up points at the end of the game.

"We just know that in the end, as a team, we have the talent and we have the mentality, we just have to finish strong. It's something that we have to communicate as a group and as a team, and move on from there."

"I think in general it's a mindset. It's just knowing what you have to do and going out there trying to execute. Unfortunately, towards the end, final stretch of the game, Indy was just able to make big plays and that is something we have to eliminate."

Jerod Mayo talks about where they are at this point in the season, and how they ended the game.

"We always talk about how you have to play your best football after Thanksgiving. That's what we are trying to do. Unfortunately, during the fourth quarter today we didn't do that."

"It's kind of disappointing to be honest with you. Even though it's a win and it's hard to win games in the National Football League, at the same time, you want to finish so much stronger than that."

James Ihedigbo knows the defense can play better.

"Even though we won this game and we're sitting here at 9-3, there is a lot that we have to work on. We know that and we're going to continue to gear up and get better. We can do some things but we have to get better to be able to do that."

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Did anyone else love what they saw from Nate Jones?

The guy was all over the field yesterday. He made a great open field tackle (for either a loss or no gain) on a RB screen that could have easily gone for 15-20 yards, and he looked good in coverage from what I could see.

Slater didn’t look so great, and Koutouvides was abysmal in coverage. Chung and Spikes cannot get healthy soon enough.

by nbradley07 on Dec 5, 2011 9:39 AM EST reply actions  

Jones is small but was effective

loved his energy – plus the fact that he’s barely had time to unpack his bags before starting. Slater was fine and his forced fumble led to a touchdown. I’m thinking with a pre-season mindset, that BB put a vanilla scheme out there, especially with such a lead in the fourth quarter. I’m not excusing how porous they were though – in fact allowing Orlovsky to look like Manning was nothing but inexcusable.

Keep the faith!

by Marima on Dec 5, 2011 10:48 AM EST up reply actions  

didn't Niko recover the on side kick?

So he at least is providing some value on ST

NBA Officiating - Corrupt? Incompetent? Which is worse? Does it matter? It sucks.

by mmmmm on Dec 5, 2011 2:21 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

I get it now --

Belichick treated this game just like a preseason game. Koutouvides, Slater and Jones starting on defense. Starting. Backup to the backup Nick McDonald starting at center. Starting. At center. It all makes sense now. BB was just toying with the Colts – Brady could have run the no-huddle all day long and put up 62 like the Saints did, but they put up just enough for the first-time starters on D to get some experience. Gotta digest this a bit more, but that’s my thoughts right now.

Keep the faith!

by Marima on Dec 5, 2011 9:40 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

Agree wholeheartedly.

I saw that Curran article last night and it made my sleeping a bit easier, knowing that that’s what probably happened.

It matters not how strait the gate, nor charged with punishments the scroll:
I am the Master of my fate. I am the Captain of my soul.

by BigRussNovak on Dec 5, 2011 12:14 PM EST up reply actions  

totally agree

Orlovsky is a journeyman, but he has enough NFL experience that by the 4th qtr even he is going to find holes in defense with a) so many noobies and b) no real disguised coverages at all.

It also didn’t help that the offense could not sustain possession in the 4th.

NBA Officiating - Corrupt? Incompetent? Which is worse? Does it matter? It sucks.

by mmmmm on Dec 5, 2011 2:15 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

and it's not like his receivers are bad

If you set up conditions so that Orlovsky can read and make a throw, then guys like Garçon are going to make plays. This is the NFL.

NBA Officiating - Corrupt? Incompetent? Which is worse? Does it matter? It sucks.

by mmmmm on Dec 5, 2011 2:18 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Bad time

to insert players that will get no playing time in the post season. BB needs to get the REAL players more time to get on the same page before the post season starts. Big mistake taking good playing time from the players that need to gel together as one unit.

by PVS53 on Dec 5, 2011 5:51 PM EST up reply actions  

But this was a good time to rest players that needed an extra week off

like Chung and Fletcher. And if there were more injuries to come, these guys could fill in better with some ‘real time’ experience.

Keep the faith!

by Marima on Dec 5, 2011 8:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe so but

if the first string can not be effective at the 12th week of the season, more playing time is needed for better communication between the first unit. Not seeing much imporvement with the first unit. There will be time to rest when we secure a bye in the post season.

by PVS53 on Dec 6, 2011 4:08 PM EST up reply actions  

^ This

I think the “first unit” are the ones that I’ve moved from pencil to crayon on my depth chart. Wilfork is the only one that is still written in ink.

The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.
Some people can learn from the mistakes of others, while some people need to pee on the electric fence themselves.
Belichick is looking for a new name for his boat: VI Rings sounds pretty good.

by SlotMachinePlayer on Dec 6, 2011 5:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Missed this game yesterday

It wasn’t on TV for me and I couldn’t sneak out to watch it. But I’m kind of glad now. I would have broken something in the 4th quarter – a TV or a fist or something. However, from the nice info Marima dug up, I see Bill was experimenting during the game. And as Marima points out – they could have lit them up like the Saints. But Bill is always thinking and preparing. What’s the point? To prove to the media that they can destroy a winless team? He used this game wisely. I like what he did. Not only did he give guys playing time, but he rested others late in the season. Very smart.

by iLikeStuff on Dec 5, 2011 10:28 AM EST reply actions  

My son was at the game and said it was a lot of fun - up to the 4th quarter anyway

He said fans were getting antsy and out of their seats, but watching from the aisles and walkways to make sure the win stood before they left. Closer than it needed to be, and frustrating to watch in the end, but I agree with Mike Reiss that the game wasn’t as close as the score.

Keep the faith!

by Marima on Dec 5, 2011 10:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Perspective is greatly appreciated for this game

I’m not sure it explains the fourth quarter though, since he had the semi “preseason” lineup in to start the game, and for three quarters they only gave up the 3 points. Also, Brady and company were in for half or more of the fourth quarter, and did nothing. So, you take the W, but it is still a little unsettling to have a finish like this. No doubt, I can’t wait to see Chung, Spikes and Fletcher this week, or I fear we run the risk of them not being in sync for the stretch run.
Full disclosure, I also have the Pats D in fantasy, just picked them up and thought this would be a good spot for them, and so for me this collapse has extra bitterness because it may have cost me the week, and I need a win to make the playoffs. I hope this also left a bad taste in BB’s mouth and he gets us prepared for 60 minutes vs Washington.

by furiousd on Dec 5, 2011 2:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Reality Check

The Pats played a 0-11 team. The Pats offense played good. The defense gave up almost 100 yard on the ground. The greatest concern I have is the yards given up through the air. The Pats defense let a third string QB throw for 353 yards. This is not a good number. The Pats can only win when the offense can move the ball and score a lot of points. The defense gives up massive yards to good and bad teams alike. The post season will bring teams with good defenses that can and will slow down the Pats scoring machine, but the defense will give up lots of yards and scores. Nothing has really changed from last year that will get the Pats future into the post season. One of the best offenses and THE worst defense will not get the Pats to the SB.

by PVS53 on Dec 5, 2011 3:33 PM EST reply actions  

what bruschi said
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Guys, there is a reason why the pass defense has struggled. No continuity in the secondary. Also, it’s why the pass rush has been great at times - Carter, Wilfork, Love, Anderson have been working together 13 weeks.
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this is my main concern with all the personnel changes in the secondary
especially as playoffs get closer

lack of continuity create communication and working together problems
irregardless of the talent level.

by prioris on Dec 5, 2011 4:08 PM EST up reply actions  

You MAY be right, but you may be wrong.

Green Bay is essentially in the same boat. We’re still 4 games from worrying about the playoffs, and a lot can change in four weeks.

Right now, we’re looking at Texans, Patriots, Ravens, Broncos, Steelers, and Bengals, BEFORE we ever see the Super Bowl.
None of those teams (us included) are set in stone.

I’m opting to wait and see rather than calling the team a failure at this point. Surprises happen.

The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.
Some people can learn from the mistakes of others, while some people need to pee on the electric fence themselves.
Belichick is looking for a new name for his boat: VI Rings sounds pretty good.

by SlotMachinePlayer on Dec 5, 2011 5:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Green Bay reminds me of

the O7" Pats, lots of offense but can be scored upon. I do not think the Packers will be in the SB. I think they will have an average game in the playoffs and get beat. Even if they do make it to the SB, a smothering defense will keep Rodgers in check. Remember what the Giants did. History may be repeated.

by PVS53 on Dec 5, 2011 5:58 PM EST up reply actions  

They were almost smothered yesterday.

And as far as history repeating itself….

When we played the Giants at the end of 2007, the score was 38-35. Same as the Green Bay game, and both games the Giants faced #12 at QB.

I thought it a little strange.

The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.
Some people can learn from the mistakes of others, while some people need to pee on the electric fence themselves.
Belichick is looking for a new name for his boat: VI Rings sounds pretty good.

by SlotMachinePlayer on Dec 5, 2011 6:10 PM EST up reply actions  

their secondary is porous but the GB secondary has highest number of turn overs in league. having a heavyweight like woodson in the secondary really helps also.

by prioris on Dec 5, 2011 8:59 PM EST up reply actions  

GB is making an effort to do something about it also. Patriots are still in disarray.
Hopefully the Patriots secondary that will be in playoff needs to play together in these
last four games.

Mccourty’s QB rating against was a perfect 158.3 in the game … YIKES
A decision on mccourty will have to be made also in next couple games.
mccourty is a liability at this point.

by prioris on Dec 5, 2011 9:02 PM EST up reply actions  

maybe move mccourty to slot or safety

by prioris on Dec 5, 2011 9:11 PM EST up reply actions  

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