Drafting under the new CBA
With a new CBA needing to be worked out prior to next season and a new rookie wage scale almost assuredly being incorporated into the new agreement wouldn't it make sense for Belichick to target players earlier than he has in the past?
Belichick used to love targeting late first round draft picks because he could get a top-flight talent but not mortgage the franchise on their contract. Now it would seem that earlier 1st round picks, while slightly more expensive will have more value as they won't break the bank. With all the picks that the Pats have stockpiled and the relative depth at almost every position (quantity not quality), why not target a great talent in a position of need. This would give you as close to a sure thing as the draft can produce while not totally straying from the Pats tradition of coveting value over stretching for need. I really don't think the answer to the few issues that the Pats have is to add more mid-talent bodies to compete for a roster spot.
In general I would love to see the mad-genius jump up (maybe even into the GASP.... top 10!?!?!?) in the draft rather than down as always and trade the plethora of picks for quality talent adding a dominant off the edge presence (OLB / DE) to bookend Cunningham and/or the Warrens, and add some youth to the O-line. I still haven't seen anything positive about Mike Wright's recovery and the revolving door of D-Linemen around Wilfork just weren't getting it done. This along with TBCs extremely quiet season shouts for off-season pass rushing attention. No doubt our O-Line was great last year, 340 passes no INT and the breakout of BJGE was no fluke, but the age of the Line and Mankins contract issues makes this a hole in the damn that needs plugging.
I cringe every time one of the "National Draft Gurus" talks about a RB or WR with one of our top 3 spots. First of all WRs take time to develop, the standard is that they don't "break out" till their 3rd year (fingers crossed Brandon Tate). This fact and our depth of young mostly untested/unproven talent (Edelmen, Slater, Price) at the position should allow us to look elsewhere. Not to mention Gronk and Hernandez. I understand the need to extend the field vertically but other than the infamous Jets game we did not have a problem moving the chains on anybody. As a diehard I have to chalk this one up to "Any Given Sunday" and just look at the regular season where we played playoff teams 7 times plus everyone in the Conference Championships ending up with a 6-1 record against them. Secondly, RBs are notoriously hard to project, look at the top 5 in production from last year, just one first round pick (Chris Johnson) led by an undrafted sophomore (Arian Foster) and this should steer you away from Ingram and Leshoure .
I will say though that after seeing how McCourty turned out I will not second-guess (at least not much) if the Hoodie goes in an unexpected direction.
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if "production" for a running back is more centered around yards than touchdowns
then yes, only 1 of them was a 1st round pick.
I want to see Belichick get some really talented guys, but he got a ton of them last year and he picked 12 times. I believe he can do the same. Trading up handicaps more than anything.
Trade down from 17. Probably trade the 28th. Use the 33rd. Gonna be very interesting
What is the best way to guage RB production then?
If you look at TDs then only 3 of the top 10 were 1st rounders, 3 were undrafted and 4 went after the 4th round. It is just such a hard position to project.
by barelyflying on Feb 21, 2011 7:39 PM EST up reply actions
I wasn't disagreeing with you, just clarifying that it was a ranking based on yards
I really don’t care about running backs as much as an offensive line to block for them.
Absolutely
I really hope we can upgrade the line to continue BJGE’s development.
by barelyflying on Feb 22, 2011 11:59 PM EST up reply actions
A lot like QBs - the best RBs are usually distinquished with what you can't measure in stats
it’s not really yards, TDs, avg, # of carries, these are all great but it’s the backs who get the hard yards, yards after contact, 2 yards when you need 1, etc.
You can argue that for a few positions the best guys are drafted early.
That’s not always the case. Vernon Gholston is a phenominal bust at OLB and he was picked at #6.
It’s not just the money that you spend with the pick, it’s the what it costs you in other draft picks to move up there. You’re investing a bunch in a guy that could just as likely be a draft bust. For some guys it might be worth it, for others it would be a phenominal waste.
What if the the extra draft pick you lost was a sixth rounder that would have gotten you Tom Brady?
Not completely against the idea of moving up if it makes sense, but I am against the idea of doing it just to do it.
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Feb 21, 2011 5:20 PM EST reply actions
True.
C.S did a story awhile back looking at the compensatory picks. Most of them suck because BB can’t move around the board and get “his guys”.
One of the few good ones? Tom Brady. Truly a diamond in the rough.
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Feb 21, 2011 5:32 PM EST up reply actions
best compensatory pick ever?
yeah, probably
How many ever make the Hall of Fame?
That’d be an interesting study.
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Feb 21, 2011 6:09 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed.
I definitely don’t think it makes sense to move up just for the sake of it. I think that if the Pats find a guy they value highly for a position that is of need (OLB/DE, and O Line) then it makes more sense now than in the past to go up and grab him. This is of course banking on a rookie pay scale as there is less long-term financial risk of signing a top 10 draft pick now than in the past. I’m saying trade up if you project a talent like a Richard Seymour (6th overall) or Willie McGinest (4th overall). I’m also not just talking about our first pick, I would love to see us leverage multiple later round picks for another 1st or 2nd rounder.
by barelyflying on Feb 21, 2011 7:51 PM EST up reply actions

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