If I'm the Patriots , here's who I would draft. Round 1
by Gillislee23 on Apr 21, 2011 12:25 AM EDT
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PrintLet me introduce myself I'm a new member to Pats Pulpit, but not a new member to SBnation. Im 15, but I know lots about sports, I plan to be a athlete or a head coach, then after maybe a sports analyst. Well let's begin, for the longest the Patriots have been the hardest team to mock in the draft. So I'm not going to mock them, I'm going to say my opinion on who I would draft if I'm the Patriots (this doesn't include any trade up or down).
Round:1
Pick: 17th
I'll select: Mark Ingram, HB, 5'9, 215, Alabama
Why: I know what most of you fans are thinking. ''He won't be avaliable at 17. '' (Kiper) '' We don't need a RB, especially in the first round'', '' No , not another Laurence Maroney ''. Well Todd McShay has Mark going as low as 28 to the Patriots. I'm not really buying that Mark will avaliable by 28th pick. So I'll take him before anyone else does, now I wanted JJ Watt the most but it's very likely he'll be gone before 17th pick so will Bowers, Quinn, Jordan and I don't think there's another DE worth the 17th pick that we can use. So I'll take Mark Ingram because he a prototype, his vision, strength, yards after contact is incredible, with our offensive line I believe we can use him.
Round 1 , Pick 28th
I'll Select: Leonard Hankerson, WR, 6'2, 209, Miami
Why: Ok now I know I'm really going to get alot of heat for this pick, but we need a playmaking WR as well. Since I don't really see a DE we can use thats worth pick 28th, Iike this guy his playstyle reminds me of Andre Johnson. He caught 72 passes for 1,156 yards(16.1ypc) and 13 touchdowns. He runs a 4.4, good speed and he can make short and long passes, I believe he's underrated.
Yes, I know about our issue at DE but that's why we have a free agency and I wouldn't want to waste a pick on a DE with any bust potential, then what's the point of picking them in the first round. I only see JJ Watts, Robert Quinn, and Cameron Jordan without really any bust potential in the first round. Wait till you see my second round picks.
Round 2 picks will continue tomorrow. Please comment your opinions. You can follow me on twitter @GatorsPatsHeat for the latest news about Patriots and other teams.
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So...
Your plan is to get Tom Brady killed?
Awesome.
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Cameron Heyward- Future 3-4 RDE for the New England Patriots.
by NinjaZX6R on Apr 21, 2011 12:49 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Welcome to PP btw.
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Cameron Heyward- Future 3-4 RDE for the New England Patriots.
LOL
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by Comedic.Sans on Apr 21, 2011 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Because taking the Colts approach has worked so well over the past 6 years...
Expect Belichick to get back to being Belichick. The best teams have the best lines, and then you work outwards.
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by insertscreenname on Apr 21, 2011 12:56 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Cameron Heyward is more than worth it at 28. Hell, he may be climbing up, so he'd be worth it at 17.
And I would have chosen Carimi, or Anthony Castanzo at 17 if watt wasnt there. imo
OR Wilkerson(DE) for that matter. A big guy who can pass rush, and stop the run.
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Wilkerson that high?
Blech, no. He’s a 2nd round prospect at best.
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Apr 21, 2011 1:31 AM EDT up reply actions
Wilkerson is being projected around thw early 20's now.
he moved up.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
It's not that bad a draft.
Solid picks, at positions of need, but there are bigger holes than WR and RB, and the players are reaches.
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by insertscreenname on Apr 21, 2011 1:02 AM EDT up reply actions
"not that bad"
you are correct…it is horrible
It's skill position players.
If I had to choose between a great OL/DL (pass and run) and Great RB / WR. I’ll take the OL /DL.
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Yeah.
He’s addressing positions of need, just not the positions that build a dominant team.
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by insertscreenname on Apr 21, 2011 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions
ummm
1. “with our offensive line I believe we can use him.”
do you mean the offensive line that currently consists of Dan Koppen, Sebastian Vollmer, Dan Connolly, and MAYBE Logan Mankins? That offensive line?
2. “but we need a playmaking WR as well”
the highest scoring offense in the NFL and one of the highest scoring teams of all time last year…..and they need a playmaking receiver……?
3. “Yes , I know about our issue at DE but thats why we have a free agency and I wouldn’t want to waste a pick on a DE with any bust potential , then whats the point of picking them in the first round”
What free agency? You wouldn’t want to pick a position of need that is the deepest position in the draft class? Did you know every single prospect has bust potential?
by pats4life on Apr 21, 2011 1:04 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I'd prefer a draft of
17th: Cameron Jordan
28th: Jimmy Smith
33rd: Danny Watkins
60th: Jabaal Sheard
If we could somehow snag those four picks (it would probably take some maneuvering), i’d be very satisfied.
I don't see Jimmy Smith fitting with the Patriots...
…so switch that with a tackle and that would be pretty much my ideal draft.
17: Carimi/Castonzo
28: Heyward/Wilkerson
33. Watkins
60 (trade up). Sheard.
by Richard Hill on Apr 21, 2011 2:06 AM EDT up reply actions
Also doubt Smith's around at 28.
The 3rd (or perhaps 2nd) best CB going at the end of the 1st? He’s going to the Eagles at the latest unless their top OL prospect is still there. He could even get picked at 11 by Houston, after PP and Amukamara.
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by insertscreenname on Apr 21, 2011 3:35 AM EDT up reply actions
.. I think I posted this accidentally.
I think this was meant to go on another fanpost, and not this one. Sorry! This isn’t anywhere near what I would want, at all.
by BigRussNovak on Apr 23, 2011 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Considering the need,
can we wait that long for Sheard? I have a feeling he goes much higher than people think.
You don't think we would take him at 33?
If not, and he’s gone, do we start looking at Bailey, or maybe Romeus in the 3rd? I am not a Reed fan, again too small.
I don't think Reed's too small...
…I’m just not a fan. I can see Bailey or Acho at the end of the second.
by Richard Hill on Apr 22, 2011 1:18 AM EDT up reply actions
not gonna happen
Cameron Jordan wont be available by 17th pick , neither will Jabaal Sheard at 60th
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Btw, good first effort and welcome to the boards
Well set up article. Though I must ask, what brings you here in particular?
If knowledge is power and power corrupts...
welcome to the PP and no offense meant by this but...
If this is your strategy, might I suggest trading 17 and 28 and 60 to get to 5-7 ish and take Green (Assuming he is still there when he very well might not be). Its roughly the same price as you used up there and we get one super star to be rather than two above average players at best
I like this idea even less..
Why do people think we need receivers all the sudden?
If knowledge is power and power corrupts...
I guess that playoff embarrassment left a lot to be desired.
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by PatNation85 on Apr 21, 2011 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions
The playoff exit was bad luck/Brady's falt
not the receivers.
I see a 'FORK in the road!
by New Century Silver on Apr 21, 2011 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions
No one was open.
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exactly, why there has been the sentiment that a new WR may be needed. That's the point.
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Life is about who makes it, not who makes it the fastest! Drive slow homie.
So...
How did they win 14 games???
There is no team other than the Jets that have one shutdown CB and another good CB that can lock down their receivers.
Doesn’t help that when the WR/TE were open, they dropped the balls or ran the wrong route.
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Its quite possible a gifted D-Guy like Rex Ryan might not be beaten by the 45-3 game plan again.
And we play them twice a year. And as i’m sure you’ve witnessed, i am not the main advocate for this or an advocate at all. This topic has been expressed by many others for months. Not me.
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by PatNation85 on Apr 21, 2011 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions
You do realize that 28% of our rosters are made up of rookies and 2nd year players right?
Hopefully it’s just the rookie/2nd year jitters .
If It happens a third time….I’ll jump on your wagon…:P
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we dont have a deep threat
Wes Welker , Deion Branch are not deep threat , Brandon Tate is a inconsisent one. I pick Leonard Hankerson because I believe he’s the next Andre Johnson
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did we beat the jets in the playoff ? no
because we couldnt throw it deep I rest my case
Mike Gillislee #23 ''THE BEAST''
Had a 'deep threat' against the Jets in week 2
How’d that go?
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by Comedic.Sans on Apr 24, 2011 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
wut?
Did you forget Taylor Price? His combine numbers are quiet similar to that of Deshaun Jackson.
Last time I checked, The Pats won SB without a true deep threat. Last time I checked, the Pats won 11 games without Randy Moss.
A 1st or a 2nd round pick on a RB and a WR is idiotic especially when there are two gaping holes at the offensive line and the RDE spot
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Cameron Heyward- Future 3-4 RDE for the New England Patriots.
And i just hope we can get past this whole "14 win season" we had. It amounted to nothing when it
mattered most. Great regular season but nothing more. That’s what we have been saying about the Colts for years. No point of that changing now.
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Don't cut your locks Tom Terrific!
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by PatNation85 on Apr 21, 2011 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I really won't attribute a loss like what we suffered at the hands of the Jets, based on 'bad luck'. The reciever's
weren’t the major issue by any means, i think what people are trying to get across was that we had no “field stretcher” in that game and many persons immediately figured that was in correlation to the loss. I do however feel that our team would be better if Welker and Branch weren’t our presumed #1 and #2.
Lewis Hamilton~ 2011 F1 Champion!!!
Don't cut your locks Tom Terrific!
Life is about who makes it, not who makes it the fastest! Drive slow homie.
Agreed on all accounts.
Jets clearly won. They confounded Brady and roughed him up. I’d feel better with a better #1 target, but that’s not why they lost.
by Richard Hill on Apr 21, 2011 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions
but
If you have no one deep to throw it too then the QB wouldn’t matter
Mike Gillislee #23 ''THE BEAST''
then
and thats how you lose , look at the Packers you know why they superbowl champs because they have deep threats we don’t
Mike Gillislee #23 ''THE BEAST''
they beat the Steelers the same way the Patriots beat the Steelers
high percentage short-passing game. I really don’t want to get into this right now because it is so obvious pointing it out just wastes time. the Packers weren’t victorious because of a deep threat…especially since the Steelers had Mike Wallace….ugh do some research PLEASE
by pats4life on Apr 24, 2011 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
preach it...
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by insertscreenname on Apr 25, 2011 2:47 AM EDT up reply actions
How many deep threats in 2001, 2003 or 2004?
You know, the years the Pats actually won the Super Bowl?
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by Comedic.Sans on Apr 24, 2011 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions
maybe a half a one?
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by insertscreenname on Apr 25, 2011 2:47 AM EDT up reply actions
If his name is Bethel Johnson, I'm going to laugh a little...
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by Comedic.Sans on Apr 25, 2011 4:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Brady had a chance at Tate deep and missed him
Branch dropped a 4th and 13 right in his hands. Crumpler dropped a touchdown. Brady threw a lazy interception.
ALL of those point to our guys not executing, which was a problem the whole team had. That DOES NOT MEAN they need to go after a receiver
how to you imply that i said that above?
And why tell me this when others have clearly stated as much so many times before? I don’t get it.
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Don't cut your locks Tom Terrific!
Life is about who makes it, not who makes it the fastest! Drive slow homie.
by PatNation85 on Apr 21, 2011 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions
would you prefer me add to the ridiculously pointless conversation?
a lot of the things that go on on sports sites are discussions between fans agreeing and disagreeing. right now, if people believe the Patriots need a receiver more than offensive line, defensive end, linebacker, they are wrong. it is that simple. trying to justify things based off of a really lazy and putrid playoff effort is one thing. trying to justify drafting crappy and screwing yourself over for years is another.
by pats4life on Apr 21, 2011 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I'll add to this
We need defensive lineman. I’ll say this once because I hated this game, Ravens game, 1st play from scrimmage.
/thread
If knowledge is power and power corrupts...
Gronk had few drops. Herno hardly played cause of his injury.
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Cameron Heyward- Future 3-4 RDE for the New England Patriots.
And we were playing on what? The 5th string DE's and DT's?
If knowledge is power and power corrupts...
If you're gonna draft Baldwin,
You might as well go after Green.
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by insertscreenname on Apr 21, 2011 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions
but
We need a down the field RB that can run through the middle consistently , BJE is ok at it but not consistent.
Mike Gillislee #23 ''THE BEAST''
Wut?
Benny is ridiculously consistent. 4 yards. Ever. Single. Down. He doesn’t break long runs, but that’s, well, consistency.
Maybe you should look up the meaning of “consistent”.
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by Comedic.Sans on Apr 24, 2011 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
in his dictionary
consistent = Chris Johnson
a guy who rushed for 1,000 yards in 13 games is inconsistent?
What games do you watch?
Non Sibi Sed Patriae ;I bleed Scarlet and Grey...A Buckeye for Life.
Cameron Heyward- Future 3-4 RDE for the New England Patriots.
Good first go around.
I think we all like to see new blood around here, especially new YOUNG blood. Good luck with your prospective career and keep ‘practicing’ at things here.
As for your picks, they are as good as any others. Despite what people write and say on the Pulpit – they know no more or less than you – and are correct about the same amount of times.
So don’t let the negativity stir you of course. Thanks for the post.
Offense. Is. Not. The. Priority.
And if it was, it would be the offensive line, not the receivers/run game. Law Firm was the only 1k yard running back in the AFC east if I remember correctly, so were good there. As for our receivers, a deep threat should be taken in the last second/early 3rd round, no sooner.
I see a 'FORK in the road!
by New Century Silver on Apr 21, 2011 4:12 PM EDT reply actions
And only way I take Ingram at all is if he drops to the 2nd round or
is guaranteed to be the next Adrian Peterson. Neither of which are likely
I see a 'FORK in the road!
by New Century Silver on Apr 21, 2011 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions
well
I think Mark Ingram is the next Emmitt Smith so i’ll take him in the 1st round
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please tell me you are not an espn and nfl network junkie
cause those morons will mess you up man.
by pats4life on Apr 24, 2011 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Hill had the right approach above. Front 7 and O-line 1st 2 rounds.
Concentrate on the RB and maybe WR later.
Lewis Hamilton~ 2011 F1 Champion!!!
Don't cut your locks Tom Terrific!
Life is about who makes it, not who makes it the fastest! Drive slow homie.
If you want a big WR who can bust single-coverage the way Branch and Welker can't...
You don’t need a top-2 rounder. Those top guys are the ones you want if you want an O where it’s QB-to-#1-WR every other play – precisely what the Pats tried to get away from when they got rid of “throw it to me or I’ll sulk” Moss. If you want a guy who can beat up press-coverage, you can use a 6th or 7th rounder on one and hope to pick up a Marques Colston. You might ‘only’ end up with a David Givens, but that’s not too bad either.
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by Comedic.Sans on Apr 21, 2011 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I take you meant this generally and not to me. As we have went over this numerous times. So i'll give you the
benefit of doubt.
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Don't cut your locks Tom Terrific!
Life is about who makes it, not who makes it the fastest! Drive slow homie.
by PatNation85 on Apr 21, 2011 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions
No. Deep. Threat.
Seriously? Why do you need one?
2001, 2003, 2004. Super Bowl winners. Who were the deep threats then?
Pats went 14-2 without a deep threat last year. Ugh.
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by Comedic.Sans on Apr 24, 2011 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions
That's exactly where you start to find deep threats.
Guys with 4.3 speed, but questionable hands and questionable route skills. Complete WRs go in the 1st, elite guys with a cloud over some aspect of their game, or perhaps an injury scare, go in the second. You want a deep threat, you draft some 6’ 2" guy with 4.3 speed in the 5th because he’s from a D2 school with someone’s mother playing QB.
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by insertscreenname on Apr 25, 2011 2:50 AM EDT up reply actions
3rd rounders like, umm, Terrell Owens?
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by Comedic.Sans on Apr 25, 2011 4:42 AM EDT up reply actions
your not gonna find a deep threat in the 3rd round so stupid move
Since you’re so aggressive by saying “stupid move”, I’ll deign to give you a complete answer.
Deep threats found in the 3rd round or later include:
Terrell Owens
Joe Horn
Derrick Mason
Marcus Robinson
Tim Dwight
Brian Finneran
Marty Booker
Brandon Stokley
Donald Driver
Laveranues Coles
Dante Hall
Steve Smith
TJ Houshmazadeh
David Givens
Kelley Washington
Nate Burleson
Kevin Curtis
Brandon Lloyd
Sam Aiken
Bobby Wade
Justin Gage
Doug Gabriel
David Tyree
Kevin Walter
Greg Lewis
Derrick Hamilton
Bernard Berrian
Jerricho Cotchery
Malcom Floyd
Chris Henry
Brandon Marshall
Dominik Hixon
Devin Aromashodu
Marques Colston
Miles Austin
Jacoby Jones
James Jones
Mike Sims-Walker
Steve Breaston
David Clowney
Earl Bennett
Mario Manningham
Pierre Garcon
Steve Johnson
Chaz Schilens
Brandon Tate
Mike Wallace
Mike Thomas
Louis Murphy
Johnny Knox
Emmanuel Sanders
Brandon LaFell
Jacoby Ford
If you were looking at ‘decent wideouts’ as opposed to deep threats, you could include guys like Wes Welker or Hines Ward, but I’ll stick to big, quick guys.
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by Comedic.Sans on Apr 25, 2011 5:31 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
with our offensive line I believe we can use him.
Matt Light is unsigned, Logan Mankins is Logan Mankins, Koppen got annihilated by anyone over 300lbs, Steve Neal is retired. Which O-line is that, out of interest?
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IDIOT
One Logan Mankins will be back , Matt Light says he’s willing to come back for less money but we can’t sign him because of Lockout, so take your shitty self out of my articles
Mike Gillislee #23 ''THE BEAST''
you called CS an idiot?
after you said our offensive line is fine with possibly 3+ changes to it? someone needs to take a chill pill before they look even more foolish
what 3 changes ?
We Franchise Tag Logan Mankins so what three changes ?
Mike Gillislee #23 ''THE BEAST''
I'll take it slow
1. Logan Mankins franchise tagged with a new CBA being structured
2. Stephen Neal retired
3. Matt Light unsigned
Matt Light, Logan Mankins, Steve Neal
You realise that the Franchise Tag might not survive any CBA the players and owners negotiate, right? That means Mankins would be a free agent.
That means Light, Mankins are both free agents – unlikely to keep Mankins, and Light’s only a maybe. They definitely need to replace Neal.
Idiot? Indeed.
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by Comedic.Sans on Apr 24, 2011 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I tried to cover for you lol
but you decided to address the tomfoolery anyways
You just called an author of this site an idiot.......
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Cameron Heyward- Future 3-4 RDE for the New England Patriots.
Even if they are...
Are you forgetting that Brady got sacked 15 times in the last 3 playoff games?
Something tells me that the O-line isn’t actually that great. Could just be me.
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by Comedic.Sans on Apr 24, 2011 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I know about our issue at DE but thats why we have a free agency
Which 3-4 DEs are hitting free agency?
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An Agency that gives out free stuff.
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Cameron Heyward- Future 3-4 RDE for the New England Patriots.
Marcus Spears is the only fit for our defense.
Cullen’s is a 3 tech 1 gap player. Spears on the other hand was drafted by Parcells as a 2 gap DE…He is a LDE not a RDE.
Non Sibi Sed Patriae ;I bleed Scarlet and Grey...A Buckeye for Life.
Cameron Heyward- Future 3-4 RDE for the New England Patriots.
Dude...
does this mean Stroud is going to be useless for us?
Cause we signed him and he is a 1 gap 3-4 DE. I think you are getting too specialized with that one.
50/50 chance of being a bust
Gerard Warren fit in 2010; Damione Lewis didn’t. Stroud could be like G. Warren, or he could be like Damione Lewis. You have to sign him from FA and kick the tyres to figure that out, and whether it works is anyone’s guess.
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by Comedic.Sans on Apr 22, 2011 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions
They include Gerard Warren.. so that's not so good for our sake :P
I really only see Jenkins as a good option. Babin was good last year but so I’m leary of people playing strong in contract years.
If knowledge is power and power corrupts...
Jenkins would not be a good option.
If we ran a 1 gap..yeah
Non Sibi Sed Patriae ;I bleed Scarlet and Grey...A Buckeye for Life.
Cameron Heyward- Future 3-4 RDE for the New England Patriots.
With whom?
Gerard Warren’s a free agent, and Pats were 32nd against the run through RE.
I suspect they mean 4-3 DE, which is pretty deep – Tamba Hali (4-3 DE/3-4 OLB), Ray Edwards, Mathias Kiwanuka, Charles Johnson, Cliff Avril, Jason Babin, Andre Carter, Raheem Brock, Phillip Hunt, Wallace Gilberry, LaMarr Woodley (as 4-3 DE, potentially), Kamerion Wimbley.
3-4 DEs, though?
Haloti Ngata (who is unlikely to go anywhere), Paul Soliai (who is unlikely to go anywhere), Cullen Jenkins (not really all that good, likely to stay in GB)
Who else? Two-down run-stuffers like Shaun Smith and Marcus Spears? Eh. Shaun Rogers? Haha. Gerard Warren?
I’m thinking that Pro Football Weekly was thinking of 4-3 DEs. 3-4 DEs… not so deep.
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by Comedic.Sans on Apr 23, 2011 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Sans...
you are wrong. Again. As you might put it…SIGH.
Jenkins, Babin, Spears. Not 4-3 guys. 3-4 guys.
And PFW notes – Jenkins and Babin combined for 19.5 sacks. Not that the hometown boys couldn’t use some of that production. And Jenkins is very unlikely to stay in Green Bay according to most accounts, as they may not be able to afford him.
You know a lot about the NFL, especially for a foreign guy who didn’t grow up with the sport. And I know it is a big part of your life. This 15 year old kid, posted his first post (taking a big chance as a youngster) and you dismiss him with back to back replies. Not in a nice manner, but as an ahole – especially knowing he is a young kid.
As an adult and an attorney (right?) should know better than to treat others like that. Especially when you represent the blog as an editor. We all root for the same team here remember.
Lastly, when you do do a driveby reply – get your sh&t together and don’t be wrong. You are better than that.
LOL
Jason Babin is a 3-4 DE? HAHAHA. He’s 260lbs. Jermaine Cunningham is bigger than he is.
Marcus Spears isn’t much of an upgrade over anyone. His best season was 2009 – 2.5 sacks, 25 total tackles. Not exactly starting quality. Throw in the fact he’s coming off an injury – only played 8 games before IR last year – No.
Cullen Jenkins? He’s 30. He’s an injury liability – he only played 11 games last season, and only played 4 games in 2008. He’s also a sub-package player. He got 7 sacks, but he only made 18 total tackles – he’s a one-down guy at best, and the Pats have already got Mike Wright and Myron Pryor for that.
you are wrong. Again. As you might put it…SIGH.
Really? Sure. I’ll just go tell 6’3, 260lb Jason Babin that he’s replacing 330lb Gerard Warren now…
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by Comedic.Sans on Apr 23, 2011 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Made a mistake on babin. My fault.
See how that works. People can be wrong and admit when they are.
You still did not address your being a dbag to a 15 year old kid that stuck his neck out there. For that you should be ashamed of yourself.
by McGarry on Apr 24, 2011 7:04 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
lack of moral high ground on the interwebz?
preposterous!
yeah -
I am stunned too. It is a shame we all couldn’t be in the same room and talk this over as gentlemen.
Your brother got your back, or is he likely to slip in a couple when you're distracted?
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by insertscreenname on Apr 25, 2011 2:51 AM EDT up reply actions
hahahahaha
"Perhaps it was the Noid who should have avoided me." Mayor Adam West
by insertscreenname on Apr 25, 2011 4:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Erhh
First off, we didn’t insult him. We just said who irrational his picks were. He called CS an idiot.
Non Sibi Sed Patriae ;I bleed Scarlet and Grey...A Buckeye for Life.
Cameron Heyward- Future 3-4 RDE for the New England Patriots.
New Zealand I believe.
But they are blind..so.
Non Sibi Sed Patriae ;I bleed Scarlet and Grey...A Buckeye for Life.
Cameron Heyward- Future 3-4 RDE for the New England Patriots.
then all their other senses are heightened
I wasn’t planning on using them during day time anyways
I also hear that they can be a pain
in the rear end if you get on their bad side…so trend lightly.
Non Sibi Sed Patriae ;I bleed Scarlet and Grey...A Buckeye for Life.
Cameron Heyward- Future 3-4 RDE for the New England Patriots.
support wr's in the 1st round
AND MOAR RB CAUSE BILL POLIAN SAYS SO!!!
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Cameron Heyward- Future 3-4 RDE for the New England Patriots.
MOAR WRS! MOAR RBS!
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by Comedic.Sans on Apr 24, 2011 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Good exchange rates, though.
Even with the poor US $…
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by insertscreenname on Apr 25, 2011 2:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Sorry
did I insult your BF? My bad.
Ninja – you know you were harsh and you even admitted to that in this thread.
The kid has his back against the wall (as do I) and he is lashing out. Don’t poke the tiger and then get angry when he tries to bite your hand off.
Lastly, when you do do a driveby reply – get your sh&t together and don’t be wrong. You are better than that.
Jenkins, Babin, Spears. Not 4-3 guys. 3-4 guys.
Babin’s never played a 3-4. (Texans ’04–’06, Seahawks ’07–’08, Chiefs ’08, Eagles ’09, Titans ’10.
And I specifically said:
3-4 DEs, though?
Haloti Ngata (who is unlikely to go anywhere), Paul Soliai (who is unlikely to go anywhere), Cullen Jenkins (not really all that good, likely to stay in GB)
Who else? Two-down run-stuffers like Shaun Smith and Marcus Spears? Eh. Shaun Rogers? Haha. Gerard Warren?
So I specifically said that the 3-4 DEs include: Ngata, Soliai, Jenkins, Smith, Spears, Rogers and Warren.
Way to go.
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by Comedic.Sans on Apr 23, 2011 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Hm... you kinda went Jack's Axe on this thread CS... tone it down on the mutli-reply to a singular comment :P
If knowledge is power and power corrupts...
I only caught the last line at the end.
Turns out I can’t resist highly coincidental passive-aggressive insults that are fundamentally flawed (lulz, Babin as 3-4 DE).
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by Comedic.Sans on Apr 23, 2011 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Woof.
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by Comedic.Sans on Apr 24, 2011 1:23 AM EDT up reply actions
Passive aggressive?
If we were inthe same room. It would be aggressive, agressive. And you wouldn’t like that result either. That, my friend, you can take to the bank.
threats on the interwebz?
serious bizness!
Lastly, when you do do a driveby reply – get your sh&t together and don’t be wrong. You are better than that.
…
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by Comedic.Sans on Apr 24, 2011 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Gosh you are just so clever....
and tough too! Show those 15 year old boys who is boss.
The sad part of this whole thing. You know I am right about picking on a new kid. You were a jerk. And you know it. You could have gotten your point across without belittling the kid, but you can’t apologize or admit it. That is a serious character flaw. Good luck with it.
clever? pfft I can be more clever than him just by analyzing your comment
1. “The sad part of this whole thing.” That is not a complete sentence.
2. “Show those 15 year old boys who is boss.” 3 years older than one of our members prefers.
3. “You could have gotten your point across without belittling the kid, but you can’t apologize or admit it.” Apologize to the fact that he could have gotten his point across? Admit that he could get his point across? You probably mean that he could apologize for belittling the kid…but that isn’t what you said here.
4. “That is a serious character flaw.” We are questioning character on the interwebz!? SAY IT AINT SO!!!
5. “Good luck with it.” After trying to harass CS, you then sarcastically wish him luck with a character flaw you have bestowed upon him.
by pats4life on Apr 25, 2011 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
2. "Show those 15 year old boys who is boss." 3 years older than one of our members prefers.
Hahahaha.
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by Comedic.Sans on Apr 27, 2011 4:43 AM EDT up reply actions
All the kid was saying...
was to allocate your draft resources in another direction than DE.
Is that the best idea, considering this is the deepest DE draft in years according to all accounts – well no.
But one of this group – Spears, Jenkins, and Ngata – could add depth to Brace, Deaderick, Wright and Warren. Any personnel man in the NFL would agree to that – that those three (and in Ngata’s case exceedingly so) could plug a gap for a year or two. But to insinuate that there is no one out there is disgenious.
he is reasonably eliminating the ones that will either be gone or cost a ton
sure shutting down the kid isn’t reasonable, but he got half of his stuff reasonable lol
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