A Richard Hill Draft Analysis
by quadruple option on Apr 21, 2011 3:44 AM EDT
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Print(Please Note: I love his work as a nice antidote to the other guys who think there are 300 potential first rounders, but his pessimism is still worthy of a thorough skewering)
Ndamukong Suh
Strengths: Powerful, good leg drive, productive, vicious streak.
Weaknesses: Struggles vs. triple teams. Does not have bulletproof skin and probably vulnerable to 9mm fire. Failed to move a train with his pinky finger. Monosyllabic surname does not create sufficient fear.
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Strengths: Athletic, strong, quick off the edge. Great flexibility. Will get 10+ sacks a year
Weaknesses: Salt is a far superior condiment. Confusing - is it white or black pepper? Dominated at basketball so may watch NBA when he should be watching NFL film. Name reminds me of Everybody Hates Chris, and thus reminds me of Chris Rock wearing that black latex suit one time.
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Dan Marino
Strengths: Good arm strength. Accurate, good touch, fast release.
Weaknesses: It's spelled marinara, and I hate it. Failed to beat out a Patriot missile in a surface-to-air contest. Has missed at least four passes in college. TD to INT ratio is not 100:1. Sometimes throws off 3-step drop, as if 5-steps is too far - questions on cardiovascular endurance.
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Lawrence Taylor
Strengths: Sudden, violent, long. Excellent first step. Can swim, bullrush, or rip through tackles.
Weaknesses: My gypsy workmate suggests he may face rape charges in 25 years. Lawrence sounds kind of girly. Has been beaten off the mark by many Olympic sprinters. Has never faced a nuclear powered, red hot robot at left tackle - what if these become standard in the NFL?
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What are some other evaluations we should look at?
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"Perhaps it was the Noid who should have avoided me." Mayor Adam West
by insertscreenname on Apr 21, 2011 4:00 AM EDT reply actions
Ahahahahaha
“Does not have bulletproof skin and probably vulnerable to 9mm fire.” The probably got me laughing out loud!
Great work!
If you're the Mel Kiper (criticizes every pick/player) of the draft, I guess that would make me the Jon Gruden
Because I always talk about how a player is going to be an “excellent fit” for the Patriots at this point or that point
by Greg Knopping on Apr 21, 2011 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions
That's a lie
I have yet to hear you say “This guy here” or say “National Football League”
If knowledge is power and power corrupts...
by satsunada on Apr 21, 2011 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions 10 recs
Rec this post if you read those quotes in Gruden's voice.
“NAH-shun-ul FOOT-bahl Lee-g”
by Richard Hill on Apr 21, 2011 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Excellent
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Apr 21, 2011 10:22 AM EDT reply actions
No offense meant at all because R Hill and about 3 others are IMO the most respected guys on here
but your negative analysis on everyone makes me want to trade every draft pick for a proven player.
Haha yeah.
I like finding the darkness. Emo and whatnot. I’m just finding that a lot of the talent that’s rated 10th-20th overall is really no better than the talent from 20th-30th. So I’m a fan of trading down to the 20s and getting the same level of talent.
by Richard Hill on Apr 21, 2011 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions
How about the 40s?
By the chart,
28 and 74 to move up to 18 (plus a little)
28 and 92 to move up to 21,
28 and 60 to move down to two 2nds averaging 42
28 and 60 and 193 to move down to two Broncos 36 and 46
28 and 74 and 94 to move down to Broncos 36 and 46 (plus 30 points)
28 and 74 to move down to two 2nds averaging 46.5
28 and 92 to move down to two 2nds averaging 51
28 and 124 to move down to SDs 50 and 61
Lots of possibilities. If reports are at all correct about depth, 50, 60 or so is still in the sweet spot after the first 10.
Quad,
Big Ben (if you are going to do this…I know for sure it’s going to be hilarious…esp since your Steelers game thread outbreaks LOL)
Michael Vick
Brandon Meriweather-hey..have to laugh at ourself.
Marvis Harrison
Purple dank dude aka JaMarcus Russel
Matt Jones (coke head dude from the Jags)
Antonio Crowmartie.
Non Sibi Sed Patriae ;I bleed Scarlet and Grey...A Buckeye for Life.
Cameron Heyward- Future 3-4 RDE for the New England Patriots.
Superman
Strengths: Faster than a speeding bullet, stronger than a locomotive, able to leap tall buildings in a single bound. Looks good in red and blue. Last name, El, saves on lettering costs for the franchise.
Weaknesses: Loses all drive when exposed to certain green rocks. May be the same green rocks the Jets use to dye their uniforms. May be the same green rocks the Jets players crawl out from under. His thing for Lois Lane may distract him late in the season. As a foreigner, he may be more at home with soccer or rugby.
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Apr 21, 2011 10:33 AM EDT reply actions 6 recs
I heard that his relationship with Lois Lane is distracting him. He's not passionate anymore.
by Richard Hill on Apr 21, 2011 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Is "Lois Lane" meant to refer to some Brazilian supermodel?
"Perhaps it was the Noid who should have avoided me." Mayor Adam West
by insertscreenname on Apr 21, 2011 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions
If that's the case...who is Bridget ?-Chloe Sullivan?
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Cameron Heyward- Future 3-4 RDE for the New England Patriots.
Lana Lang, I guess.
"Perhaps it was the Noid who should have avoided me." Mayor Adam West
by insertscreenname on Apr 21, 2011 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Smallville reference?
If only I could mobile rec
Hey, You're not dressed for an afternoon of Tchaikovsky and heavy petting!
by No Pity on Apr 22, 2011 12:09 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
was a good show till the last 4 seasons.
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Cameron Heyward- Future 3-4 RDE for the New England Patriots.
It was great up to when they killed off Lex. Rosenbaum made that show along with the guy that plays
Lionel Luthor.
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Don't cut your locks Tom Terrific!
Life is about who makes it, not who makes it the fastest! Drive slow homie.
"Faster than a speeding bullet" = Red flag
In particular, off the field issues in general, marital issues in particular. Lois Lane isn’t happy…
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by Comedic.Sans on Apr 21, 2011 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions
The Flash
Strengths: Quick first step, good hip fluidity, high motor. Looks good in the throwbacks.
Weaknesses: Lacks the strength to get to the quarterback against elite metahuman tackles. Relies too much on his speed, which will hurt him later in his career. Not sure how the blue uni’s will look on him.
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Apr 21, 2011 10:37 AM EDT reply actions
Good backside pursuit, though.
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by insertscreenname on Apr 21, 2011 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I heard that was Ben Roethlisberger's strength as well.
by Richard Hill on Apr 21, 2011 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions 10 recs
Pretty sure it's unwanted backside pursuit.
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Cameron Heyward- Future 3-4 RDE for the New England Patriots.
Pretty sure he always lines up in an illegal formation for that, though.
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by Comedic.Sans on Apr 21, 2011 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions
He leaves extra protection in the backfield.
Still 7 guys on the line though.
"Perhaps it was the Noid who should have avoided me." Mayor Adam West
by insertscreenname on Apr 21, 2011 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Where can you find more R Hill draft posts
I want to see his player evaluations on players from past drafts to see how accurate his analysis is. I’ve read alot of his analysis on current prospects and they seem right on the money, but it also makes me wonder how many times he’s been dead wrong on a prospect. Does anyone know where i can find some of his older player evaluations?
Here’s a link to some of last year’s reviews! I’ll go find where I’ve been dead wrong later tonight!
by Richard Hill on Apr 21, 2011 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions
A couple that come to mind...
…are Sergio Kindle and Jonathan Dwyer.
by Richard Hill on Apr 21, 2011 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Also, we have not seen what Kindle can do yet
so you cant just yet say your analysis/projection was wrong lol
Here:
Marima did a great job compiling the links here.
I did predict that Lamarr Houston would be a great pick.
Defensive misses:
Jerry Hughes – Although he’s in a 4-3 scheme, might have succeeded in the 3-4.
Eric Norwood – Overestimated his value, ignoring his small size. Playing in a 4-3 defense.
Ricky Sapp – Value plummeted due to injury immediately before the draft. Evaluated him before the injury.
Koa Misi – Underestimated his value
Offensive Misses:
Aaron Hernandez – Not really a miss, but I said the Patriots would pass on him (but then again, I had him as a second round grade, so they DID pass on him…and I said the Patriots needed a blocking TE [Gronk]). Won’t say I was totally off in my evaluation. Said he’d put up great receiving numbers.
Bruce Campbell – Said he’d be a solid 2nd, dropped into the 4th. Makes me wary of Solder this year.
Notes:
Jonathan Dwyer – I mocked him to the Patriots, which is why I thought I misgraded him. However, after looking at my review, I remembered that I didn’t recommend the Patriots’ draft him. Hah.
Montario Hardesty – Predicted he’d be a solid 4th round pick, but his stock made him a 2nd. He was taken in the second. Injured and unknown.
Ben Tate – Like Hardesty, also injured.
Rodger Saffold – Showing some love for Saffold.
by Richard Hill on Apr 21, 2011 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions
But out of all the prospects...
…I only really missed on Hughes, Norwood, Misi, and Campbell.
Sapp was injured all year, and Hughes and Norwood were in 4-3 defenses. So that leaves me underestimating Misi and overestimating Campbell. Not bad.
by Richard Hill on Apr 21, 2011 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions
OMG, Hill just went post Kiper on us!
And did it with less douche-baggy-ness. LOL
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Don't cut your locks Tom Terrific!
Life is about who makes it, not who makes it the fastest! Drive slow homie.
It was THEIR fault I evaluated them incorrectly!
It had NOTHING to do with me not knowing what’s up.
by Richard Hill on Apr 21, 2011 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions
The difficulty with Mayock and Kiper...
…is that they’re evaluating the whole player. I have the luxury of just focusing on the Patriots and knowing what type of player the Patriots need. They can say, “this will be a solid 4-3 player”, but what type of 4-3 are they talking about? They evaluate players in general terms, as opposed to focused terms, which is why some of their evaluations are just terrible.
I’m lucky I don’t have to evaluate these players with respect to the entire league. No player fits every scheme.
by Richard Hill on Apr 21, 2011 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Dont hurt your hand
patting yourself on the back there Rich.
Let’s have you lock in now – on exactly who the Patriots will pick or what trade they will make.
As a matter of fact – that would make a great post. Have everyone commit to exaclty what they think will happen. then it is all there in one nice little package of replies. No second guessing, no half measures – just straight up predictions.
I would love to see this from all of us.
I think it is way too early to call a guy a bust after his rookie season.
I actually wanted Hernandez and B. Tate, but I knew that Ireland wopuldn’t take Hernandez because he couldn’t block.
I think everyone underestimated Misi. I wanted Hughes and to be fair, we haven’t seen what he can do since he is stuck behind two all pro DEs.
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I wanted Kisi too as my OLB.
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Combining Names?
-Pulse of the Maggots P.o.t.M. The "pm striker king"- WZB
"Truth is, everybody is going to hurt you; you just gotta find the ones worth suffering for." -Bob Marley
"Don't pray to have easier lives. Pray to be stronger men." - JFK
"Loving a good woman is the best thing a man can do for his moral welfare" -Narrator from The AutoBiography of an Ex-colored Man
Go see Mosul's new blog! An Observation on Sports
Oh crap lol
Non Sibi Sed Patriae ;I bleed Scarlet and Grey...A Buckeye for Life.
Cameron Heyward- Future 3-4 RDE for the New England Patriots.
God
Strengths: Omnipotent, omniscient, etc.
Weaknesses: Questionable work ethic – known to take every seventh play off. Due to ability to warp reality, may struggle to understand clock management in fourth quarter. Unlikely to willingly take orders from Bill Belichick and known to be quite independent. Has an extremely large entourage of worshippers who may distract him from football.
by quadruple option on Apr 21, 2011 4:50 PM EDT reply actions 7 recs
Nice lol
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Don't cut your locks Tom Terrific!
Life is about who makes it, not who makes it the fastest! Drive slow homie.
You forgot the part...
Where if he makes a mistake, he doesn’t shake it off… he tries to drown everybody. Not a first-round draft pick mentality, IMO.
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by Comedic.Sans on Apr 21, 2011 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Seems a bit like Manning in that regard.
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by insertscreenname on Apr 21, 2011 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions
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