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My Final Patriots Mock Draft

I've sort of made a habit this past month or so. Whenever I have a spare piece of paper. To scribble down a quick patriots mock. I've probably done a hundred or so scenarios. It's a nervous habit, and it passes the time. But it's at least given me a pretty good grasp of what order to draft each position and where certain players just don't make sense.

One fact that is sort of tough to avoid is how, i'll use the word, uncertain the tackle position is. Outside of the top 20-25 picks. I'm now in full fledged support of drafting an offensive tackle at #17 (we'd probably be able to afford dropping down a few spots to the 19-20 range, and still have carimi, castonzo and solder available.)

I like the tackle prospects in that order.

1. Gabe Carimi

2. Anthony Castonzo

3. Nate Solder

Castonzo has the greater upside to Carimi. But I just feel more comfortable taking carimi, and sticking him in at right tackle, right away. He's a fairly sure thing there, and while he may never be able to protect TB's blind side, Sebastian Vollmer has played a good share of snaps on the left side.

If we're going to spend a top pick on a tackle. It's to afford the luxury of not paying Matt Light, and hopefully in turn afford to pay Logan Mankins. So a project like Tyron Smith and Nate Solder wouldn't be ideal.

17th Overall Selection: Gabe Carimi OT/Wisconsin

28th Overall Selection: Cameron Heyward DE/Ohio State

Certain posters (you know who you are) have swayed me and while Heyward may never rack up double digit sacks. He would be a natural fit at the Right End position, effectively replace Richard Seymour and i truly believe he'd be a good fit for the pats.

33rd Overall Selection: Danny Watkins OG/Baylor

A guard with a mean streak, whose a slight reach at this position. Sound familiar? The biggest hit on Watkins is his age. But he clearly will not be available at 60 and this is another situation where the patriots could trade back a few slots and get their guy in Watkins.

My vision for the O-line is as follows:

Sebastian Vollmer - | - Logan Mankins - | - Dan Koppen - | - Danny Watkins - | - Gabe Carimi

Watkins and Carimi are the two most NFL ready offensive lineman in the draft and this could be a bonus with a training camp that will almost certainly be shortened by a lock out.

60th Overall Selection: Allen Bailey OLB/Miami

There's been some shared interest between the Pats and Bailey. They've brought him in multiple times for a visit and I could see them jump up a few spots to grab Bailey somewhere in the middle of the second. Bailey would project as an *elephant*-type outside linebacker the patriots system, and has a Willie Mcginest-type frame. He's very raw, and a very big risk. But I want to see the patriots take a chance on Bailey.

74th Overall Selection: Quinton Carter S/Oklahoma

Rich Hill described him as a "smart player, who takes great angles" and while his hits are vicious, they aren't reckless. Brandon Merriweather with a brain, maybe? He might not have Merriweather's speed, he can make up for it by playing smart and buying into the patriots system.

He may be available at 74, though its far from likely. Jaiqauwn Jarrett seems to have gained some a lot of support around the web, but I think Carter is the better pick if available. Merriweather in my eyes, is a goner. There was a good chance he was gone before his (mysterious) off the field incident, and it's a good idea to plan for life after the first rounder.

90th Overall Selection: Edmund Gates WR/Abilene Christian

Bill tends to take project wide receiver's at the end of the third. (Brandon Tate and Taylor Price were both selected towards the end of the round) Gates is my favorite of the three I'd look at toward the end of the round.

Cecil Shorts III and Tandon Doss are also possibilities.

4th Round: Jacquizz Rogers RB/Oregon State

Redundant? Maybe. Rogers, has Woodhead-type size (his roughly an inch and a half shorter) and put up monster numbers at Oregon State. He doesn't bring much to the table that Woodhead doesn't. He'd be another body, another play-maker, who can catch passes out of the back field.

Danny Woodhead takes a beating every week, and Kevin Faulk might never play another down. Rogers could be the Edelman to DW's Welker.

I also like Alex Green RB/Hawaii.

5th Round: Brandon Fusco C/Slippery Rock

A solid project at center, who would hopefully develop behind Koppen. Don't know much about the late round center's, but i've seen his name a lot around here.

6th Round: Chykie Brown CB/Texas

Brown was brought in once for a work out with the Pats. The lesser of the three Texas cornerbacks, Brown would be nothing more then a project at corner, and maybe he could find a niche as a nickleback. Not a great tackler. But there aren't a lot of great options this late in the draft.

Well that's it. I can't wait for the draft, and I hope to come away from it satisfied. Because I've wasted too many hours obsessing.

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I like it

except for the Rodgers pick.
Btw…Seymour never had double digit sacks in a season.

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by NinjaZX6R on Apr 21, 2011 8:39 PM EDT reply actions  

I was going to say the same thing

why do people believe we need a double digit sack guy?

by pats4life on Apr 23, 2011 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

No idea.

Under BB, the front 7 never ever had a player that had double digit sack until Vrabel did it in 2007 w. 12 sacks.

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by NinjaZX6R on Apr 23, 2011 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wouldnt

be surprised to see someone get double digits this year. The secondary is going to create a lot of coverage sacks.

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by PatsfanDan on Apr 25, 2011 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like it too

I wouldn’t go with Rodgers in round 4 either but go with Todman (prob not available) a Vereen or maybe take a flyer on Taiwan Jones. In any event BB likes veteran RB’s that have proven themselves so I think BB will be going with a solid FA veteran here to carry the load anyway. Also, instead of Bailey I might trade up a bit in round two to get Martez Wilson from IL. Although he played MLB in college he has the height, weight, and speed to play OLB in the Pats system.

by PatsBob on Apr 22, 2011 2:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Im sorry but

I don’t like this draft, if the pats drafted 2 O-lineman in the in the with 2 of their 3 top picks while only getting One pass rusher, and then going ahead and drafting another small quirky elusive RB, when that’s the RB we absolutely dont need. I dont like it at all. The pats dont need to draft two lineman high. They have proven that they can develop mid/late round lineman into starters. I dont like it at all. We NEED DEFENSE! This offseason should be

by Chris Kole on Apr 22, 2011 9:10 PM EDT reply actions  

The pats dont need to draft two lineman high.

Pats have, arguably, more than two holes in their starting O-line. Light’s unsigned. Mankins is unsigned. Koppen? Old. Neal? Retired. That’s four spots, maybe.

They have proven that they can develop mid/late round lineman into starters.

That’s the problem. “Developing” takes time, and the Pats don’t have it. Odds on are they’ll need immediate starters, and those only come in the top rounds – Light, Mankins, Vollmer all started as rookies, and they were all early-rounders.

It’s all up in the air. Will Light resign? Maybe. Will Mankins stay a Patriot? Maybe. Neal’s definitely gone. What’s the future of Connolly? No idea. Is Vollmer a LT or a RT? No clue. Is this the year that Koppen stops being an effective C entirely? Possible.

Until you answer all those questions, O-line has to be on the radar for multiple draft picks, and high ones at that.

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by Comedic.Sans on Apr 22, 2011 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Even if you do plan on resigning Mankins and Light, you'll need to draft people just to keep contract negotiations in check

If Hoodiedoesn’t draft offensive linemen high, Light and Mankins’ agents will have a field day with the demands because they know the Pats won’t have a choice. Even with low round picks, it’ll appear they’re drafting for depth and they’ll still demand the moon.

You draft Carimi and Watkins and gain leverage back. If the franchise tag stays, we’ll keep Mankins. We’ll probably lose Light but I’m not so sure that’ll be detrimental as long as we get someone early to replace him.

Outside of holes in the starting line, there are NO backups. If Light and Mankins don’t resign, the Pat’s are left with starters of Koppen, Vollmer, Connolly, Kaczur, and i’m guessing Ojinaka. Which leaves maybe a practice squad guy or some free agent pickup who won’t be worth much. It’s just not a good setup right now. Too much uncertainty NOT to draft multiple linemen.

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by satsunada on Apr 23, 2011 4:57 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

yep!

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by NinjaZX6R on Apr 23, 2011 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Which leaves Ojinaka at RT

Not good.

Btw, anyone find it interesting that Ojinaka has a home in Suwanee, Georgia (where he got arrested for throwing his wife down some stairs or some such… for a facebook post…. ) and Cameron Heyward was born in Suwanee, Georgia?

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by satsunada on Apr 23, 2011 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh really?

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by NinjaZX6R on Apr 23, 2011 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Super Bowl XLII

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by Comedic.Sans on Apr 23, 2011 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow

so i guess Mankins isn’t a starting caliber guard either

by Chris Kole on Apr 23, 2011 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mankins had a few painful snaps in an otherwise okay game...

Kaczur didn’t look good at all. That’s the difference.

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by Comedic.Sans on Apr 23, 2011 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Asante Samuel

There.. I put the blame on one guy.

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by satsunada on Apr 23, 2011 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I don't need to.

You asked about Nick Kaczur at RT. I said why not.

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by Comedic.Sans on Apr 23, 2011 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Vollmer at left tackle

and then draft a right tackle. duh

by pats4life on Apr 24, 2011 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

I can't see the patriots letting go BOTH Lineman

If we let go of Light we’re resigning Mankins if we let go of Mankins it’s a two year deal for Light. To let both go would be dumb on the patriots part even if they drafted two Lineman high. Thats putting two rookies as immediate starters, NO WAY. If we let go of Light and draft a tackle like in your vision, we don’t have to draft a guard high. Last Year Ted Larsen, an UFA guard we signed, didn’t make our roster, got picked up by the Tampa Bay Bucs and became their Starting guard for the rest of the season. You can get a starting guard late. Also when Mankins was holding out last year, Dan Connolly proven a capable starter at guard. What cant he be the starter while we develop our 4th-5th rounder guy.

by Chris Kole on Apr 23, 2011 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

If we draft a tackle, we can let go of light, and use the money saved to keep mankins

But we would still need a right guard. Dan Connolly is not a long term solution at guard, and Danny Watkins is the perfect fit for our O-line.

I think this draft would be slightly reminiscent of the Jets draft class, where they took D’brickashaw Ferguson and Nick Mangold with their two first rounders. Which has given them a fantastic core of offensive lineman.

by beantownboy171 on Apr 23, 2011 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Somewhat true

But if you don’t fill the hole expected of their departure, you’ll pay tons to keep them. If we could sign them beforehand, awesome. It’s just not economically logical to ignore the damage that could be done by an agent who knows the team has nothing.

If you don’t draft a tackle, we are forced to keep Light and pay him extra. If we don’t draft a guard, Mankins can demand the moon and likely will. It’s just not good. On top of that, Connolly was capable but he’s a better backup than starter. Matter of fact, he’s an awesome backup.. let’s keep him that way. Especially since he’s really the only backup for Koppen.

Oh.. and despite their record, the Bucs had a ragtag group of players last year outside of Freeman and Barber. They played superhard though and I’ll give them credit for that. However, I wouldn’t say their GM was a genius for picking up someone dropped off by the Pats. There’s a good chance they had a silk lined pillow with crayon drawn on it for eyes and a number representing them at guard before they got him.

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by satsunada on Apr 23, 2011 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Im not saying

dont draft two Olinemen. Im saying we dont have spend our best picks on both. We can use a 1st round pick to draft Carimi and wait pick up a guard a little later in the draft.

by Chris Kole on Apr 23, 2011 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Im mean

Mid 3rd to pretty much the end of the draft.

by Chris Kole on Apr 23, 2011 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is my Starting O-line Week 1

LT: Vollmer
LG: Mankins
C: Koppen
RG: Connolly
RT: Carimi

Now is that unacceptable?

by Chris Kole on Apr 23, 2011 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you could wangle a guy like Danny Watkins to play RG...

Connolly’s real strength is versatility – he can play a half-dozen positions, so he’s best as a reserve. But that’d be fine. Ideally with a C drafted low to potentially take over from Koppen, either in future or potentially even someway into the season.

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by Comedic.Sans on Apr 23, 2011 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Im mean

Mid 3rd to pretty much the end of the draft.

by Chris Kole on Apr 23, 2011 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey, don't diss the Rock!

One correction on Fusco. He went to Slippery Rock not Fresno State

by PatsBob on Apr 23, 2011 9:53 AM EDT reply actions  

I'd be happy with the front four.

Would like to see Black, and McElroy late.

by U. S. Grant on Apr 23, 2011 10:53 AM EDT reply actions  

Not bad. Great 1st round

I think we need to go OLB first at 33 and then guard at 60, or even OLB, RB, OG, and get a proper running back, WR a bit later, definitely slot corner before another WR. Connolly could move to center or we draft a G/C. I like your vision for the O-line, I think it would be great with Connolly at C, either way Koppen and Light are dragging the O-line down

by Cromartie is a tool on Apr 24, 2011 8:43 AM EDT reply actions  

i think realistically

we trade up from 60, to get a guard. Which will allow us to go elsewhere with 33.

by beantownboy171 on Apr 24, 2011 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would consider Kristan O'Dowd and Jake KirkPatrick in the fourth.

This would mean doing a major overhaul of the OL (4 / 5 spots). Then I would double up with Zane Taylor in the 6th. I like Tylor better than any late round C.

Rodgers has the size of a guy like woodhead, but runs like a 230 lbs. RB. Not a good Combo. If you want another HB that catches out of the back field, try Derrick Locke or Taiwan Jones.

I question Bailey’s competitiveness. He was once a MLb, but ate his way to DE, then ate his way to DT. If you guys put him at DE in the 34, he might eat his way to challenging Wilfork for the title of biggest DL in the league.

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by PotM on Apr 24, 2011 9:47 AM EDT reply actions  

Are you sure Miami wasn't just utilizing Bailey's natural size?

He doesn’t exactly look overweight here:

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-combine/09000d5d81ec270e/2011-combine-workout-Allen-Bailey

or here:

or here:

The dude is very raw. But this is the first i’ve ever heard of him being anything but a physical beast.

by beantownboy171 on Apr 24, 2011 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

That was from some cane fans, but his position has changed.

And he has packed on the pounds.

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by PotM on Apr 24, 2011 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ummmmm just out of curiosity......did you take the bottom pick yourself? It looks awkward lol

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by PatNation85 on Apr 24, 2011 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Navy seals?

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by Comedic.Sans on Apr 24, 2011 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

a good old thread jacking.

Hasn’t happened for nigh on a week

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by insertscreenname on Apr 25, 2011 1:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

or 10 minutes

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by satsunada on Apr 25, 2011 2:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

*seconds.

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by Comedic.Sans on Apr 25, 2011 2:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

I commented here before I saw the "prospects" post.

My bad.

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by insertscreenname on Apr 25, 2011 2:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

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