NFL Draft 2011: Bill Parcell's Draft Board
by Richard Hill on Apr 25, 2011 10:19 PM EDT
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PrintBill Parcells is no longer a part of the Miami Dolphins, but he's still a part of the football community. He has a bit on ESPN to talk about the draft and, in the background, is Parcell's Big Board of players. After a lot of pausing and print screening, I was able to come up with a fair amount of his graded prospects:
QB:
1st: Newton, Gabbert
2nd: Mallett, Ponder, Locker
3rd: Dalton, Kaepernick
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WR:
1st: Green, Jones
2nd: Smith, Cobb, Young
3rd: Hankerson, Baldwin, Pettis, Jernigan, Gates (?)
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RB:
1st: Ingram
2nd: Williams, Thomas, Leshoure
3rd: Murray, Hunter
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TE:
1st: Rudolph
2nd: None
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OT:
1st: Solder, Smith, Castonzo
2nd: Sherrod, Reid
3rd: Cannon, Carimi, Ijalana
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OG:
1st: None
2nd: Watkins, Wisniewski
3rd: Carpenter, Rackley
4th: Boling, Moffitt
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OC:
1st: Pouncey
2nd: None
3rd: Hudson
4th: Fusco
See his defensive rankings after the jump!
DE:
1st: Watt, Bowers, Heyward, Jordan, Quinn, Clayborne
2nd: Bailey, Acho
3rd: Ballard, Sheard, McPhee
4th: Romeus
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DT/NT:
1st: Dareus, Fairley, Taylor, Wilkerson
2nd: Liuget, Paea, Austin
3rd: Nevis, Ellis, Powell, Jenkins
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OLB:
1st: Miller, Smith, Kerrigan
2nd: Ayers, Moch, Houston
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ILB:
1st: Irving
2nd: Wilson, Carter
3rd: Matthews, Sheppard, Homan
4th: Jones, Sturdivant
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S:
1st: None
2nd: Moore, McDaniel
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CB:
1st: Peterson, Amukamara
2nd: Smith, Williams, Brown(?), Harris
There are some question marks as I couldn't completely discern the footage, but I feel like this is a pretty solid compilation of Parcell's board. First thing I notice is that Parcells is planning for a heavy 4-3 defense, where the linebackers have to be beefy. The offensive line is based on potential, as opposed to certainty, as surprise player Jah Reid out of UCF passes even Carimi, who drops to the third.
While I'm not sure if this board will happen, it's important to see how one of the top evaluators of talent has set his board, especially one who has had so much influence on Belichick.
If you see any differences, post in the comments and I'll edit it into the list.
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Point of notice is how Fusco's flying up the draft boards...
…the Patriots might have to use the 4th on him.
idk what video you watched lol
which was part of my point
No way! I have a good feeling about Nathan Irving as well
But a first round grade?
by beantownboy171 on Apr 25, 2011 10:36 PM EDT reply actions
I assume he means Edmund Gates
at wide receiver. right?
by beantownboy171 on Apr 25, 2011 10:36 PM EDT reply actions
Well, that's my guess. I couldn't read if it was "Gates"...
…but it looked very close. Might have been “Doss”, but I think it was “Gates.”
by Richard Hill on Apr 25, 2011 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Nice..
I’m glad to see that I’m not the only crazy person DVRing everything and trying to pause and paste boards…….tried with the Pats sneak peak which I quickly realized was a big waste of time.
The Parcells’ piece is on Tuesday right?
It’s reinforcing to see Jah Reid up there along with Fusco, both guys I like from the 3rd round on.
The entire video (90 mins)
will air on ESPN on tuesday 9.30PM EST.
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Cameron Heyward- Future 3-4 RDE for the New England Patriots.
Carimi is a 3rd round pick acc to Parcells??
Non Sibi Sed Patriae ;I bleed Scarlet and Grey...A Buckeye for Life.
Cameron Heyward- Future 3-4 RDE for the New England Patriots.
Parcells is the moron that thinks Matt Ryan would've been a better pick than Long
who knows what would have happened? Ryan isn’t even that good and he has a dome and Roddy White and Tony Gonzalez
He is better than Joe Flacco.
Non Sibi Sed Patriae ;I bleed Scarlet and Grey...A Buckeye for Life.
Cameron Heyward- Future 3-4 RDE for the New England Patriots.
Here’s last year’s draft room recap.
It’s cool to watch them trade down. “The Cowboys are moving up to take Dez Bryant, the Ravens’ aren’t going to take a corner.” Belichick talks about squeezing a third out of the move down, which means they picked up around 100 points on the draft value chart. Pretty solid.
that Belichick guy is pretty good
not great though, like Bill Polian
Or Matt Millen
"Perhaps it was the Noid who should have avoided me." Mayor Adam West
by insertscreenname on Apr 26, 2011 2:23 AM EDT up reply actions
WTF?
If you think of yourselves as helpless and ineffectual, it is certain that you will create a despotic government to be your master. The wise despot, therefore, maintains among his subjects a popular sense that they are helpless and ineffectual.
-Frank Herbert, The Dosadi Experiment
by peytonsurdaddy on Apr 27, 2011 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions
It's a B BS joke...
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Cameron Heyward- Future 3-4 RDE for the New England Patriots.
Patriots porn at its best
"Perhaps it was the Noid who should have avoided me." Mayor Adam West
by insertscreenname on Apr 26, 2011 2:23 AM EDT up reply actions
Bill Parcells was influential to Belichick. Belichick’s style has evolved to accommodate different kinds of thinking. But Coach hoodie does like larger players still. Old school types with new school athleticism.
I can't believe Newton even made Parcells' board.
He must not have seen the QB Camp w/ Gruden that Newton was on. He couldn’t name a single play he called at Auburn……. The guy is going to flop hardcore.
Don't think it'll matter with the QBs in this one.
"Perhaps it was the Noid who should have avoided me." Mayor Adam West
by insertscreenname on Apr 26, 2011 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah he could.
uh… uh… 37
"Perhaps it was the Noid who should have avoided me." Mayor Adam West
by insertscreenname on Apr 26, 2011 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Another thing I’m in the minority on, but I believe that Cam will be a good qb. He has a long way to go. But I believe that he will be good. And who is Jon Gruden anyway? He is better with veteran qbs than rookies. And he won a Super Bowl with someone else’s team. He has very little credibility with me.
He may have won a Super Bowl with someone else's team,
But if you’re saying that, his team got there as well, then.
"Perhaps it was the Noid who should have avoided me." Mayor Adam West
by insertscreenname on Apr 26, 2011 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Dude,
he couldn’t even name one play Auburn ran in the 2010 season..not one….Heck, his fav play was either a QB draw or a fake QB draw pass option like Tebow ran…
And they ran those plays numerous time.
Non Sibi Sed Patriae ;I bleed Scarlet and Grey...A Buckeye for Life.
Cameron Heyward- Future 3-4 RDE for the New England Patriots.
Like I said Cam has a long way to go. A real long way. But he is the one that has to make sure that he takes those steps. If he busts all people will say is “we told you so.” If he makes it people will say something different. If Cam works hard he can make it. He has just as much chance to succeed in the NFL as any other player coming in. I don’t think I would draft him in the top 10. But I would draft him later in a good spot where the contract wouldn’t kill me.
And Gruden’s former team the Raiders did make the Super Bowl. But they still lost. And they had a veteran qb as well. I just don’t put much stock into Chucky. On MNF he was getting the names of Patriot players wrong. You are on live tv and don’t know the names and stats of players?
I don't mean to be offensive...
But 95% of what you just said either doesn’t make any sense or is complete BS.
If you think of yourselves as helpless and ineffectual, it is certain that you will create a despotic government to be your master. The wise despot, therefore, maintains among his subjects a popular sense that they are helpless and ineffectual.
-Frank Herbert, The Dosadi Experiment
by peytonsurdaddy on Apr 27, 2011 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Hi, Pud
And rec’d.
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by Comedic.Sans on Apr 28, 2011 2:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Parcells drafted Pat White, lest we forget...
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by Comedic.Sans on Apr 27, 2011 3:34 AM EDT up reply actions
it was not that he could not think of any play,
he could not think of a play that was long and complicated, if they did not have one, what is he supposed to say?
"The Buffalo Bills have just exploded all over the Cincinnati Bangles"
-Steve Tasker-
by billsoferie on Apr 27, 2011 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions
“our plays were numbered, but after getting the call (36), we would run “proper playcall with the correct terminology”, which I would call off the wristband."
"Perhaps it was the Noid who should have avoided me." Mayor Adam West
by insertscreenname on Apr 27, 2011 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions
where does that say the terminology was long?
"The Buffalo Bills have just exploded all over the Cincinnati Bangles"
-Steve Tasker-
by billsoferie on Apr 28, 2011 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions
He couldn't say
“Sprint right option, Alpha, drag, on 1”?
Surely he’s already had some pro coaching, even just being corrected from film by team coaches. He doesn’t have to call the longest play on the card, but I would have thought he could remember how to call an option to the right with simple blocking.
Even if he couldn’t remember a specific playcall, if he’d just said “we had them numbered and I used a wristband”, he’d have come out of it looking alright. Everyone knows he’s not doing kills and check-with-mes. Hell, Brady uses a wristband, because it saves about 10 seconds in the huddle (I’m sure he can remember all the plays, though).
"Perhaps it was the Noid who should have avoided me." Mayor Adam West
by insertscreenname on Apr 28, 2011 1:14 AM EDT up reply actions
or "65 toss power trap",
If Newton watches NFL Films.
"Perhaps it was the Noid who should have avoided me." Mayor Adam West
by insertscreenname on Apr 28, 2011 1:19 AM EDT up reply actions
just dont think from that you can question his ability to remember plays
It could have gone down differently when it weas actaully filmed or something, you never know.
My point is, this singke clip would have no influence on my perception of him and id wager to say the same for an NFL team.
"The Buffalo Bills have just exploded all over the Cincinnati Bangles"
-Steve Tasker-
by billsoferie on Apr 28, 2011 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions
They would already know.
They bring him in, and he struggles naming plays there in the film room and on the whiteboard, and their minds are already made up. Maybe he goes bang, bang, bang with a Brady/Manning read of the defense, but bombs out on what Auburn technically ran, they go the other way.
As for me, if was a Panthers fan, I’d be sitting there scared to death. He might get out to the middle with one playcall, but can’t remember the protection calls or something. I’d be excited as anything, because his ceiling is huge, but I’d be absolutely terrified. I imagine Marty Hurney feels the same way.
"Perhaps it was the Noid who should have avoided me." Mayor Adam West
by insertscreenname on Apr 28, 2011 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions
Draft Board Correction
Parcells has Patrick Peterson rated below Prince Amukamara.
That goes against almost every other scout.
If you look closely at his board, the magnets seem to be carefully arranged to show where in the round he thinks the player belongs (Mike Pouncey is the only player in the OC 1st round square yet the magnet is placed all the way at the bottom of the big square. Same with Terrell McClain in the 4th rd NT/DT. Squares with several players have different spacings between the players. Seems he thinks OT Solder should be at top of 1st rd (another surprise) while Smith about the 15-20th pick & Castonzo at end of rd 1). I doubt very much this spacing is happenstance. This would put Patrick Peterson around the 25th pick which I thought was shocking. Wonder what he sees?
Really?
It was at the end of the screen so I couldn’t really decipher the difference. That would be surprising.
by Richard Hill on Apr 27, 2011 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Matt Bowen had a snippet about Peterson...
Something like he’d love to coach Peterson, but he questions Peterson’s tackling… and if he can’t tackle, he wouldn’t make the field.
Amukamara can tackle, at least from everything I’ve seen. His run-support is one of his drawcards (like McCourty). That might make him attractive to Parcells (who, unless we forget, drafted big-tackling Ty Law in 1995).
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Contributing Writer at PatsPulpit
by Comedic.Sans on Apr 28, 2011 3:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah this is a 3-4 defense board. No 4-3 team rates Kerrigan and Smith as outside linebackers. 3-4 teams would value those ends much higher then the 4-3 teams outside of Quinn.
After further examination...
…it’s based on more where he thinks they’ll project in the NFL, regardless of defensive style.
by Richard Hill on Apr 27, 2011 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Calling them LBs and SAMs...
Makes it look like he’s looking at 3-4, 4-3, and Cover-2 guys for each system. Interesting, considering that suggests he might consider going to any team that’ll have him… cough.
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by Comedic.Sans on Apr 28, 2011 3:01 AM EDT up reply actions
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