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New England Patriots Links 5/06/11 - Patriots Drafted A Leader (and a big, pounding blocker) In TE Lee Smith

Christopher Price profiles 'throwback' TE Lee Smith, taken in the fifth round of the draft.

Patriots coach Bill Belichick referred to him as an "outstanding blocker." Phil Ratliff, Smith’s position coach at Marshall, added to that on Thursday, calling him a "throwback" who was "far and away the most respected player on the team because of how hard he practices and how hard he plays."

Ratliff knows something about the sort of player that appeals to the Patriots -- while as a player at Marshall, he was a college teammate of eventual New England football legend Troy Brown. "Lee is the kind of player the Patriots draft -- a quality person who takes to system and does whatever it takes to succeed," Ratliff said. "New England is getting another leader -- he’s a natural-born leader."

 "A lot of people don’t realize he had a good tight end that played in front of him — this past year was the first year he really had a chance to thrive in the passing game," Ratliff said. "At 6-foot-6 and 260 pounds, so a lot of people don’t realize how good he in the passing game. When you think of Lee Smith, you think of a big, pounding blocker. That’s what he is, but he has capability in the vertical passing game. He’s got soft hands and a knack for getting open -- and he will get better."

"All I can tell you is this -- people can all the negative things they want about him, but Lee, when he came to us, he was a guy who was a leader," Ratliff said. "He was a guy who got it. It was unbelievable. When he got into our system, he got structure, and just took off from there. "What happened in the past is in the past. He’s gone beyond that. He’s the most mature guy I have ever coached. He has a family and kids -- all that stuff is in the past. It’s so irrelevant to what he is now. It really is."

"I will tell you one thing -- they have a very impressive tight end group," Ratliff said of New England. "[But] there’s no challenge for him that’s too big. He won’t back down. Those guys are all really good players, but whatever is asked of Lee, he’ll roll with it. He’ll do whatever he needs to do, and take care of business. That’s just how he is."

Ryan Osborne (TCU Daily Skiff) Patriots 7th-round draft pick Malcolm Williams is packing his bags for the NFL after unlikely football journey.

"I'm living in a dream right now," said Williams, who was drafted by the New England Patriots with the 219th overall pick in the seventh round of the NFL Draft Saturday afternoon. "It's the best thing that can happen to me."

Williams offered a simple, timeless phrase to sum up his journey from airport bag collector to NFL draftee.

"Hard work pays off," Williams said. "That's all you can really say."

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Reche Caldwell found with marijuana....


“Dude. That stuff was gooooooood….”

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by Comedic.Sans on May 6, 2011 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol

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by NinjaZX6R on May 6, 2011 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

in the name of all the frogs...

…to compare us with Reche..just hurts. /facepalm

by frogfromthemud on May 7, 2011 3:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

hahaha

If knowledge is power and power corrupts...

by satsunada on May 7, 2011 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

that image is freaky!

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by NinjaZX6R on May 7, 2011 6:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

hahahahaha

Deep in enemy territory

by JeffyB on May 7, 2011 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

As long as Daly didn't tell Mallett

How diving from a tournament game to Las Vegas and blowing 10 million isn’t fulfilling…

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by insertscreenname on May 6, 2011 12:05 PM EDT reply actions  

I know coaches talk highly of almost all their players

But I am getting very excited hearing how all these kids are leaders. It seems like the more leaders we get, the more accountable everyone will be. If he is the eventual successor to Crumpler, I hope he can lead like him. It was nice to have a veteran show our young guys the ropes, and I’m willing to say it was very successful.

by jcorye1 on May 6, 2011 12:31 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

I’m impressed as well. Getting good team guys, who buy into your system is very important. The Patriots seem to have a ton of character in their locker room. It should pay off.

by Patriots12 on May 6, 2011 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'll be impressed when we win a SB. All the character in the world is good n all, but SB's are what matter.

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by PatNation85 on May 6, 2011 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

hahahahahahaha

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by insertscreenname on May 6, 2011 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed

As a side-note, I advocated getting rid of Moss after his crazy speech in week 1 and his ‘performance’ in week 2. I even said I thought that the O would perform at a higher level without Moss because Brady wouldn’t feel obliged to force it at Randy and would spread it around (which they subsequently proved against Miami).

PatNation85 still hasn’t forgiven me for it. You’ve been warned, haha.

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by Comedic.Sans on May 6, 2011 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

It's just

all about you

WE ARE PENN STATE

by Cameron O on May 6, 2011 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was the first to suggest it, and got a lot of flak for it...

(Told you sooooo).

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by Comedic.Sans on May 6, 2011 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

0.o

I made a post about it after game 2, so Ha!. XD

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by Jack'sAxe on May 7, 2011 1:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Haha, I remember.

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by Comedic.Sans on May 7, 2011 2:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

what?

CS deleted it.

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by NinjaZX6R on May 9, 2011 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have said the same things. ;)

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

by Jack'sAxe on May 7, 2011 1:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Make this green someone

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by NinjaZX6R on May 6, 2011 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd take my chances with a guy described as a "natural born leader"

over a guy scheduled to go to trial with the felony charge of “malicious wounding” carrying the chance of going to prison (on top of his other issues) any day.

Keep the faith!

by Marima on May 6, 2011 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wasn't the years when you guys won the SBs were when you guys had high character players?

Teams have to work as a unit to win and if you have a bunch of divas, that will self implode when the going gets tough.

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by PotM on May 8, 2011 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

yep.

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by NinjaZX6R on May 8, 2011 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

See: Cowboys, Dallas; and Bengals, Cincinnati.

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by Comedic.Sans on May 9, 2011 5:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

thisssss

I love character mapping!

This lockout is jeopardizing our next ring!

by Yardpenalty.com on May 6, 2011 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow I missed this pick! Loving every pick!

This might be the best draft Bill has ever orchestrated considering the lack of talent in the draft. This kid is Pat worthy!

This lockout is jeopardizing our next ring!

by Yardpenalty.com on May 6, 2011 3:34 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

I would too Marima, but look at the aforementioned Jets squad. They have quite a few characters on their squad,

and they have been more successful than we have over the course of the past 2 seasons. The media as well as Jets fans couldn’t care less about off field issues as long as they are winning. And quite frankly, that in the end is what it’s all about.

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by PatNation85 on May 6, 2011 5:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Meant to be a reply to 'Mom'

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by PatNation85 on May 6, 2011 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

More successful = winning one more game than the Patriots did in the postseason

Eh. Certain off field issues I don’t think matter too much except as an annoyance when they affect the team (Brandon Spikes 4-game suspension for example). If Kenrick Ellis is convicted on the felony charge then will the Jets fans care a bit more about the draft pick? Maybe.

Keep the faith!

by Marima on May 6, 2011 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I expected the Jets to implode under the weight of all their malcontents...

Pretty much like how the Bengals do every year. But they didn’t, and that has lead me to believe that, no matter what else he is, Rex Ryan has to be a brilliant man-manager and motivator.

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by Comedic.Sans on May 6, 2011 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

LMAO! Couldn't resist could you?

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by PatNation85 on May 6, 2011 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hear he also gives them foot messages in order to relax them.

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by NinjaZX6R on May 6, 2011 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

No no no

“If you aren’t good, I’ll set my wife upon you…”

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by Comedic.Sans on May 6, 2011 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

while they have fair share of knuckleheads

such as Cromartie, Edwards and Holmes, their “core” is constituted by a lot of respectable, hardworking and classy guys such as Sanchez, Revis and LT which I think matters a lot

by cruelangelT on May 6, 2011 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lee Smith

Soft hands … that’s what makes Gronk such a good receiver

Since he can long snap, it increases his chance of making it on roster this year.

Increases Crumpler’s chance of being cut. Crumpler has one more year left in NFL.

by prioris on May 6, 2011 6:41 PM EDT reply actions  

One of his fellow Marshall alumni back in the 90's

did the same thing for us. Played 3rd string TE and played LS.

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by NinjaZX6R on May 6, 2011 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would be happy if Smith wins the LS job

But I want Crump around another year. 3 TE set of Crump, Smith, Gronk, w/Vereen and Ridley….So many options for short yardage, all of them can catch and block. That would keep a defense honest.

by BenCoatesFTW on May 6, 2011 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

yep...had the same idea.

Smith can be our 4th TE and LS w.o having to cut him and risk someone stealing him during the waivers or PS squad.

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by NinjaZX6R on May 6, 2011 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

If Lee Smith can be safely waived, that would be perfect situation.

If Lee Smith proves highly capable in preseason at TE, that could make for tougher decisions. Ideally I’d like Crumpler to groom him.

If Lee Smith proves he can LS enough, it could make for even tougher and tempting decisions since it could free up another roster spot.

I just hope the Patriots can keep him on board until next year since he has decent potential to be Crumplers replacement.

by prioris on May 7, 2011 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lee Smith is a keeper. He would never survive waivers: not a chance.

I see 4 TE’s with Crumpler doing another year of superb mentoring for these three gems. With Crumpler, Smith, and Gronkowski, we should see some sets using all three of them on short yardage downs. One can start in the slot.

Awesome run potential or play action with a short route by any one of the three TE’s. Money!

I think we are going to see another fabulous return from the draft picks. Both RB’s will be everything Maroney failed to live up to. Smith will be another Gronkowski. Dowling will be another McCourty. Stroud will add another excellent veteran presence on the D-line. If Ty Warren and Bodden can play a full season, this team will be pursuing another run at undefeated perfection!

by WinningisEverything on May 7, 2011 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Last year we carried 5 running backs:

Maroney (then Woodhead, when Maroney was shipped)
Fred Taylor
Sammy Morris (somewhat as a fullback)
Kevin Faulk (until his career season ending injury)
Law Firm

This year, we likely have Law Firm and Woody, and one or two of our draft picks.
There’s the potential for another guy, though that guy could be a Tight-End.

If he can pull lead blocking duties, he can take over for Morris as the fullback.
One of the two other rookies will likely fill in for him on special teams.

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by SlotMachinePlayer on May 7, 2011 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sammy Morris was basically a special teamer by the end of the season...

Anyone know what Smith offers in the kicking game? He’d likely have the speed and size to be a decent blocker on KRs and maybe as a lineman on PRs and punts. It’ll be interesting to see how they use him.

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by Comedic.Sans on May 7, 2011 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well

look at how many snap issues the Patriots had after Katula took over…

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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on May 6, 2011 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who is Matt Katula?

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by Comedic.Sans on May 6, 2011 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly.

We knew who Jake Ingram was because he kept ****ing up. Katula came in and quietly did his job at LS to perfection.

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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on May 6, 2011 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Using Lee Smith would be somewhat of a tempting gamble balanced against why fix something that isn’t broken.

by prioris on May 7, 2011 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think BB also appreciates having more than one guy on the roster that can perform the LS duties.

Last year he didn’t and it became a roster problem and a liability for a few games.

by Oughat on May 7, 2011 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm sure that helped Rob Ninkovich keep a roster spot his first season...

He was a good ST coverage guy like Pierre Woods, and he could play LS at a pinch.

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by Comedic.Sans on May 7, 2011 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

He’s a nice compliment to Gonzalez and Gronkowski.

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by waltbabyluv on May 7, 2011 5:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Who the hell is Gonzalez?

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by BigRussNovak on May 7, 2011 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Alge Crumpler, I imagine

Tony Gonzalez is too busy playing for Dimitrioff’s Falcons. Sigh.

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by Comedic.Sans on May 7, 2011 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes I meant Crumpler, I don’t know why I typed Gonzalez.

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by waltbabyluv on May 7, 2011 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Big, vet blocker, both have had great careers, both in new-ish teams...

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by Comedic.Sans on May 7, 2011 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

True.

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by waltbabyluv on May 7, 2011 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

And Alge was originally a Falcon!

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by BigRussNovak on May 8, 2011 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think we'll keep 4 TEs this year.

Hernandez is more of a big slot receiver anyways. And if we only keep 4 backs, and don’t have a fullback, and one of the TEs is kind of more of a reciever having 4 makes sense.

by UtopianAverage on May 7, 2011 6:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Just browsing through the rookies...

7th rounder Malcolm Williams vs. Matt Slater

                         Williams _________ Slater
Height _______5’9.5"___________5’10.5"
Weight ______204lbs__________195lbs
40 dash ______4.48s___________4.44s
20 dash ______2.56s___________2.59s
10 dash ______1.48s___________1.57s
Bench _______16 reps_________11 reps
Vert jump _____40"_____________33"
Broad jump ___10’6"___________10’1"
20 shuttle ____4.39s___________4.40s
3-cone ______6.90s___________7.31s

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by Comedic.Sans on May 8, 2011 1:10 AM EDT reply actions  

Can you say "UPGRADE"?

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by insertscreenname on May 8, 2011 5:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

7th round potential upgrade over a guy who went in the 5th round?

Not bad, Hoodie. And because the guy has no real position, he’s probably safe enough to clear waivers and stash on the Practice Squad.

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by Comedic.Sans on May 8, 2011 5:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

No-one's gonna steal a STer off waivers.

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by insertscreenname on May 8, 2011 6:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'd hope so...

Except Belichick did it last year to Denver, maybe Denver might try it back.

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by Comedic.Sans on May 8, 2011 6:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Or the Rams do it, since it was McDaniels's guy Hoodie stole.

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by Comedic.Sans on May 8, 2011 6:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Only bc they stole our player first.

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by NinjaZX6R on May 8, 2011 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Based on those stats, Williams stays, BB pockets the cash difference, and the PATS keep rolling along as THE pro franchise to model. BB has a superb eye for value. These lower level players who make a huge contribution every game are tied to their dollar value. BB and staff can teach Williams the system. They cannot teach Slater to jump higher or run faster.

Slater – gone. New, more impressivde physical presence in his spot.

This is a perfect example why BB stick piles draft picks by trading down. These later round finds are inexpensive upgrades because of their youth, dollar amount, and superior physical attributes.

by WinningisEverything on May 8, 2011 9:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Another guy under 5'10 that's gonna contribute to the betterment of the team?

Hell yes! Smurfs FTW.

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by BigRussNovak on May 8, 2011 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it's just a little early to call this guy an upgrade.

The combine stats show them to really be just about the same speed. Slater is shown to have slightly more top end, while Williams slightly more burst.

Really we don’t know how well that transfers to game speed for both of them, or actually how football skilled Williams is, how well he plays special teams, etc. etc.

by UtopianAverage on May 8, 2011 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not saying he won't be an upgrade.

But I think a few hundredth of a second differences in a few drills, and a few more bench presses or whatever is not nearly enough to say he WILL be. It’s a very very very slight difference in the stats themselves, and there’s a lot of combine/workout phenoms who can’t play football very well, combine stats don’t show that much.

by UtopianAverage on May 8, 2011 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

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