Ten reasons why I'm thankful that I'm a Patriots fan.
I've been traveling the blogosphere and looking at concerns other team's fans have to deal with, and it occured to me that even during the lockout, I have a lot to be thankful for as a Patriots fan.
1. My team's owner isn't Jerry Richardson who insulted pretty much every player available at the start of this CBA fiasco. It's not Virginia Halas McCaskey or any of the other members of the lucky sperm club who happened to have a daddy who owned an NFL franchise that they could run into the ground. It's not Al Davis or Ralph Wilson who were once well respected but would be better served by having someone competent running their franchise. Along those lines it's also not Stephen Ross (and the Rossettes? - whatever you call the other hundred Dolphins "owners") or one of the multitudes of other owners that have no clue about running a franchise (Dan Snyder anyone).
Instead it's Robert Kraft who has done a great job of not only building a franchise, but leaving it alone when it comes to football decisions. He hired the right guys and held them accountable. He also seems to be one of the driving forces on the owners side toward getting a deal done. He probably started by tying up Jerry Richardson in a closet somewhere.
2. We don't have to hope a stadium gets built to keep the Pats in Foxborough. Between the firm belief that SOME team will end up in L.A., and a number of teams looking to get a stadium deal done, there are fans like those of the Vikings, Jaguars, and Chargers wondering what the future of their team might be. The Pats, well, they're sitting pat.
3. My team is not getting a new head coach this year. Occasionally a new coach experiences first season success. Rarely do they experience multiple seasons of success (Harbaugh with the Ravens is one such success story). Instead we have boring old Bill Belichick and can virtually guarantee a winning season, a shot a the playoffs, and the possibility of winning it all. When's the last time the Pats were a bottom feeder? Bill's first year. Yeah, that thing about new coaches.... We don't have to worry about that.
4. My team just got a shiny new quarterback ... and with any luck, he'll NEVER see the field because we've got a first ballot Hall of Famer tossing the rock. Oh, and his contract is done (unlike Manning's). At least ten teams have questions at QB (and more probably should), but the Pats aren't one of them. Instead we ask heady questions like, "When Brady's done in 5 years, who will our QB be?", or, "When should we draft our QB of the future." With us, we know that if we can keep number 12 upright, we have a chance to win every damn Sunday (or Thursday, or Saturday, or those Monday night games....)
5. We seem to have found a running game using a back that isn't ancient in RB years. He'll likely be reasonable to re-sign, and Woody makes a nice complement. Faulk may still have a year of tread left if they want him, but other than that, we've got two rookies we haven't even kicked the tires on. No retreads here.
6. We don't have a proven deep threat ... and better yet, we don't need one. We got rid of our "proven deep threat" last year and won 14 games. It's nice to have, but the Pats really never won a Lombardi with a "proven deep threat". We had one in 2007, and that didn't get us a ring either.
What we're missing is solid receiver depth. Guys that make plays whenever their number is called, whereever their number is called. Like Edelman who only caught 7 of his 14 attempts (he was targeted 40 less times in 2010 than in 2009). He can be a beast with the ball in his hand, but he needs to make sure he catches it once it's there. While I'm blasting Julian, I might as well hit Wes who dropped the most passed of any wide receiver last year, yet still had a 69% catch rate. Brandon Tate's catch rate is 52% (just a tad above Edelman's) of his 46 targets. Branch, by comparison, had a 66% catch rate on his 92 targets.
As a group, our offense left a lot of football on the field, and Brady is right there with them. There were VERY few deep balls that were on target (could be poor route running, but his deep ball hasn't looked good since 2007). The good news is that all of that is fixable; deep threat or no. Our offense works best catching the ball and moving the chains. Add in Herdo and Gronk and you have a team that can exploit mismatches if they catch the ball when the opportunity arises. Our success is all in their hands.
7. We've got very few free agents to sign:
Law Firm (who should be reasonable to sign): Ok, Thomas Clayton, Kevin Faulk, Fred Taylor, and Sammy Morris are all free agents as well, but the Pats don't need them to succeed. We might try to get Faulk one more ring.
Logan Mankins (who was franchise tagged): It seemed like the cold war was thawing between Logan and the Pats, so he might still get a long term deal, but either way we should have his services THIS year.
Matt Light: He's not an absolute necessity since we drafted Nate Solder, but I believe they'll probably cut him a deal anyway if they can. He's still an upgrade for many teams at Tackle.
Shayne Graham - Not needed with the Ghost back. Oh, and Gostkowski's back which means better field position out of the kicking game.
Gerard Warren - Probably not needed.
Kyle Arrington, Josh Barrett, Tracy White, Brandon McGowan - If they want to, but none of them are absolute needs.
With so many teams needing to hustle to sign their free agents, ours has a pretty small shopping list. We probably have more rookies to worry about than veterans.
8. We don't have a proven pass-rusher. That's a good thing? Yeah, if that's all you got to complain about. There are a lot of teams that have more questions than answers, we have more answers than questions. When I look at pass rush, I use the Mississippi rule. At the snap I count, 1 Mississippi, 2 Mississippi, etc. until the QB is pressured or he completes the pass. If the pass goes out before 3, that's on the secondary. How many guys can get past an experienced blocker in 3 seconds? That was the story in 2008 - our secondary sucked swamp water. Ellis Hobbs and Deltha O'Neal as starters? Really? If there is no pressure by 6, that's on the front 7 - all of them. In between, they share the blame.
The Pats went from having a lousy secondary in 2008 , to potentially having an elite secondary in 2011. Sure there are some ifs: if Bodden is healthy and McCourty plays as well or better then we're very good, if Ras-I is decent on the outside (especially against taller WRs), then we're even better, and if Butler makes headway as a slot-stopping corner, we're golden.
The early signs point to a secondary that will be special, and if so, we just added some time to the QB dumping the ball (watching last year we were a Mississippi away many times). Add in some experience and stability at DE (with Warren, Wright and others back), and we've added pressure without a change in personnel at OLB. I'd really be surprised if we don't see an increase in pressures, QB hits, and sacks with the same guys and more experience in the system. What we had last year was good enough for 14 wins, and that's with backups at CB and DE.
9. With so few holes on the team, and so few free agents to sign, the Pats will be among the teams least affected by the lockout. Add to that the positions they drafted need the least time to come up to speed (RB, OL, and CB mostly), and even our rookies might be contributors this year.
10. It looks like when all is said and done, there will be Patriots football in 2011. I see us winning at least 4 of 6 in the division. At least 3 of 4 in the AFC West, and 2 of 4 in the NFC East. That leaves Indy and the Steelers which at worst is 1 of 2. That's a minimum of 10 wins and good shot at the playoffs even if we don't have the division. Not many fans can say that. They hope it and dream it, but they can't say it. I think this season will be well worth the wait.
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This summed up the sentiments of countless Patriots fans around the world.
To actually detail and define the little things takes a lot. It sort of goes back to “Instead of thinking about what you’re missing, try thinking about what you have that everyone else is missing.” I’m glad I’m one of the privileged who can say I’m going to be a lifelong Patriots fan, for better or for worse. And hopefully it will be for better for many, many years to come.
It matters not how strait the gate, nor charged with punishments the scroll:
I am the Master of my fate. I am the Captain of my soul.
When you go look at the other 31 teams, it's easy to see how blessed this franchise is.
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.
Some people can learn from the mistakes of others, while some people need to pee on the electric fence themselves.
by SlotMachinePlayer on Jul 13, 2011 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Plus the team is said to be around $20 million under the cap
and they’re not one of those teams sweating bullets about how they’re going to sign their own free agents and rookies let alone bringing in anyone else.
Keep the faith!
coughJetscough
"Perhaps it was the Noid who should have avoided me." Mayor Adam West
by ISN on Jul 13, 2011 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
coughSuckcough
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.
Some people can learn from the mistakes of others, while some people need to pee on the electric fence themselves.
by SlotMachinePlayer on Jul 13, 2011 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
They'll go for the season points record, vs the Giants alone.
No way in hell Brady walks off that field without being up by 100.
"Perhaps it was the Noid who should have avoided me." Mayor Adam West
by ISN on Jul 13, 2011 11:45 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I can't wait
for the patriots defense to face Eli Manning. 2 words PICK PARTY. I want them to just destroy him. I want to just see him commit turnover after turnover after turnover. Sack fumble, Bad ill advised throws, the work. I don’t hate many players or people in the NFL, but I HATE ELI MANNING. That lucky overrated, uncharismatic, “aww shucks did I do that?”bastard. And it’s not the fact that he ruined the perfect season by throwing the worst pass I’ve ever seen, it’s not even that stupid look he gives or his boring personality, it’s not even thta he gets paid like the best QB in the league, it’s just that he is vastly overrated by the media, more specifically the NEW YORK MEDIA. “Oh he plays in New York and doesn’t crumble under the harsh words of new yorker after he plays like shit, what a QB he should be in the top 100”. Ridiculous.
by Chris Kole on Jul 13, 2011 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Worst thing is that he has as many SBs as his 100x more talented brother
by quadruple option on Jul 13, 2011 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions
How is this anything but hilarious?
That is the only thing good that came out of that…..thing.
Ugh, I can’t even think about it.
Say what you want about America, thirteen bucks still gets you a hell of a lot of mice!
That's because football is a team game.
Also, Brady is the only QB in the GOAT discussion that has multiple SB rings.
"Too many of us look at Americans as dollar chasers. This is a cruel libel, even if it is reiterated thoughtlessly by the Americans themselves.""Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of truth and knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the Gods.""Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe.""The most incomprehensible thing about the world is it is comprehensible.""Peace can not be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding." - Albert Einstein - "pm striker king"- WZB. Mosul's Blog
We were watching some family videos from October of 1990
and my brothers and brothers-in-law were resting from some heavy-duty chores at my parents house talking about having to miss the Patriots game that Sunday. One of the comments was that it didn’t matter because the game was blacked out that week anyway.
Long-time Pats fans have put in their time and know what the dark days were like. To me it’s still thrilling to see them turned into one of the elite franchises in the league.
Keep the faith!
The days when the Bills used to kick the crap out of the Pats twice a year.
Those weren’t the days….
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Jul 13, 2011 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions
My earliest recollections are of the Parcells regime, so I've seen very few dark days.
But those Pete Carroll years were pretty painful, and we never even had a losing season (albeit everyone know that the team was going nowhere but downhill, getting by on talent alone). I can’t imagine a Kraft-owned Patriots team going back to abject failures of the Rod Rust days, or even the insufferable mediocrity of the Carroll days. I’m a truly spoiled football fan, and I love it!
I started watching when Champaign Tony Eason went to them in 1983.
That was under Ron Meyers. I missed quite a few games due to the fact they were “blacked out” of Monday Night football and having to watch mostly NFC North in Illinois. I also missed most of 5 years while in the Air Force (got out in 1990). They did show Pats games occasionally when I was in Germany, but none in England.
The head coaches and their win rates during that time:
Ron Meyer 1982–1984 54.5%
Raymond Berry 1984–1989 55.1%
Rod Rust 1990 6.2%
Dick MacPherson 1991–1992 25.0%
Kraft bought the team in 1994.
Bill Parcells 1993–1996 50.0%
Pete Carroll 1997–1999 56.2%
Bill Belichick 2000–Present 71.6%
There was a whole lot of bad football in there before Kraft showed up.
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Jul 13, 2011 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions
You're right.
I started with three things, expanded to 5 and 8 and finally said 10 is enough for one post.
We’re very blessed.
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Jul 13, 2011 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Nice.
by the way, Al davis has been an above average GM for the raiders. ;)
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
He was a great at one time.
I don’t think he could recognize coaching talent any more if it bit him. There’s the question of some player talent as well.
If he’d have turned the reigns over 10 years ago, I’d sing his praises, but he’s like Favre and doesn’t know when he’s done.
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Jul 13, 2011 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions
*reins.
Doesn’t anyone read Cracked? Arrgh! I feel like I’m taking crazy pills!
"Perhaps it was the Noid who should have avoided me." Mayor Adam West
Sorry about that.
He reigns with reins in the rains.
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Jul 14, 2011 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I could have gone to the National Spelling Bee when I was in fifth grade.
But I spelled it reign.
Can a nation be free if it oppresses other nations? It cannot. -Vladimir Lenin
by pedroiastroika on Jul 14, 2011 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Or he's been dead for 10 years,
But the Raiders have no one to replace him.
"Perhaps it was the Noid who should have avoided me." Mayor Adam West
i disagree.
the raiders havent done good in the past 8 years, besides last year, but you can blame our QB situations, and our coaches not doing very well either.
Its not all Al Davis’s fault. He still has done above average jobs in the draft and offseason. And he has now did an excellent job in reviving a good coaching staff. He has Stefen Wisnieski Sr. who was a great raider center before, and we hired Hall of Fame Rod Woodson as our DB coach. We also put up Hue Jackson to Head Coach, which was a great move because he is well liked on the team, and was very important cog in our last years 8-8 team.
He is better than you think. The team and the coaches in the past years have not helped his image at all, but some of that was out of his control. HOwever, his best moments are in the offseason. :)
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
that is incorrect.
he is the owner and the general manager so nothing that happened in that orginazation off the field is out of his control. he is mostly to blame for the troubles over the last decade or so. more then any other person.
by brady12mvp3 on Jul 15, 2011 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions
I'd have to agree.
“QB situations” don’t happen, they’re made.
Who drafted JaMarcus Russell?
What was the fallback plan in case he didn’t work out?
Why did it take so long to diagnose that he was ineffective?
I’m not here to bash on Al Davis. He makes some good decisions and he makes some very bad decisions. The problem I see is his pride. He’s not willing to say, “I screwed up”. He’ll ride a bad QB decision way past time, and fire coaches that bruise his pride.
I think he needs to groom a GM to take over some of his duties and provide a buffer between him and the rest of the staff. Jack’s Axe doesn’t agree, and it’s all good.
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Jul 15, 2011 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions
i have been a pats fan since birth really
but my first memories is the 78 season. so i got some exp with bad ownership. it is not a coincedence that the patriots most successful stretch is when kraft bought the team. now i know there would be no patriots with out billy sullivan and i give him a A for effort and heart but bottom line he made terrible decisions and it rolls down hill. success starts at the top kraft gives the patriots a great base he hires and trusts his football guys and lets them do the job but also holds everyone accountable. al davis is a hall of famer as a owner gm etc but i am afraid the game passed him by years ago and he really needs to start finding his replacement in oakland. although they have been better the last 2 seasons.
of course the gm has a lot to do with it
but we had bad players on our team in those years. Bad as in bad influence and such(randy moss was a bad influence there). You cant get rid of players and start a new, you have to prepare, and get patience. Turning a team around doesnt happen in a year. The raiders were in a BAD situation after gruden left, so it took a lot of time for them to come around. 8 years to be exact. It happens to teams every now and then, where they have bad stretch years, but the raiders had it the worst, which is why it took till 2010 to get the situation back under control.
Al has done this with patience. He hired and fired coaches until he got the right ones(hue and cable), and he did very well drafting players, besides JRuss and some other CB(in terms of the first round). All of it pays off, and Al has been the center of it all, so I cant sit here and say that he has been horrible, because he had a really bad situation on the raiders that he had to help heal.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
you have to add Heyward-Bay to that small list
but I would agree with you that they have developed some decent players out of their drafts. Even a few late rounders.
Al just has to stop losing his head, such as when he signs players like Javon Walker for ludicrous contracts when the guy’s knee is trashed.
he was a major factor in putting them in that bad place
thats what you are missing.
he was not a major factor.
We got in that “bad place” because gannon, rice, and tim brown all left, and gruden and al were not getting along. Al didnt put us in the situation. We just didnt have anyone to step in their place. When you lose your starting QB, and two starting/pro bowl WRs, your team is not going to do as well in the next one or two years. Imagine if the pats lost Brady, welker, and branch. Also keep in mind that the raiders didnt have TEs like the pats do now at that time.
Your putting everything on Al, which is very unfair. Its tough to develop a winning team after that, and its even tougher when the players who fill in at those spots are just below average, and/or have not very good personalities.
Al decided to build the team through the draft. Not many trading, and not many FAs. Yeah they were part of the building, but Al wanted to mainly build through the draft, which he did above average in. Why did we lose all the time? Well Randy Moss certainly did not help, as well as our QB situation. um…. after that we got JRuss. One of the biggest draft busts in history, but was highly touted as a very gifted QB. he went into drugs and laziness, and was probably the sole cause of our losing seasons because he loves giving the ball up to the other team.
The situations we were in we horrible. Every GM has there draft busts, and Al was given in to the biggest draft bust(possibly) of all time. Al was certainly not the main reason as you make it out to be. quality guys leaving, and replaced by inept guys because there was little choice. a bad situation to be in indeed.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
you really think he wasnt a major factor in the raiders demise?
you are in denial. i didnt say he was the only one but he def was a major one he is not a very good gm and there really is no arguing that and with all the crap going on fighting with coaches firing them after 2 seasons etc he isnt even that good of a owner . and actually the raiders tight end is the best reciever they have on the team. i am not trying to bash the raiders or even al davis who is a hall of famer of football heck football wouldnt be the same if it wasnt for al davis he has meant a lot to the nfl but he is old and the game has passed him by. he has had 2 decent drafts in a row so maybe he is getting help or getting better at least.
First of all, you need to look at more than the past two drafts. he has done very well. if you want i'll give you a break down of the past... hm.. 5 drafts i suppose.
and he fired coaches because they were not good. Lane Kiffin? Does that scream very good coach to you? Psh come on man. Lane Kiffin stunk as a coach, and Al fired him, but the media plays it like any other season, that Al likes firing coaches. Not true. He wants the team to get better, not stay below average, and the coaches he brought in were not helping his cause.
I wouldnt say miller is the best receiver, but he is consistent. Louis Murphy and Jacoby Ford have een great, and Chaz Schilens is excellent when he is not on the bench.
I’ll tell you who we got that was good/above average on the team from the drafts since 2003.
2003: Nnamdi Asomugha, Justin Fargas, Doug Gabriel(i think). Pretty good. they got a good RB, and the best CB in the league.
2004: Robert Gallery, Jake Grove. Okay it was meh. but they got a really good OG out of it.
2005: Stanford Routt, Kirk Morrison. An all pro CB, and an above average MLB.
2006: Michael Huff, Thomas Howard. A slightly above average safety, and a very good OLB.
2007: Zach Miller, Michael Bush, Oren O’Niel. All very good. Oniel… not as good as the other two but still good.
2008: Darren McFadden, Tyvon Branch, Trevor Scott, Chaz Schilens. All good-very good.
2009: Mike Mitchell, Matt Shaghnessy, Louis Murphy. a good player, very good player, and very good player. I like it.
2010: And you should know how this draft goes. One of our good drafts.
I realize he gave away many picks as well as not hitting on good names. Also notice how that in all of these drafts, only 3 picks in the first round were not good: Fabian Washington, JRUSS, and HeyBey.
The reason you may not know of these names is because, A) Andrew Walter at QB, B) Jamarcus Russel at QB, and he can fill in C and D. The QBs on our team killed our winning chances. Its not Als fault if they turn the ball over, its out of his hands. He tried getting a good QB in the first round, but that turned out to be JRuss.
You call him senile, but he has reason why he has fired coaches, and he has not had full control over the teams wins and losses. The players have to play the game too you know, and they played horribly except for the last couple years. I remember when he gave a 1st rounder for seymour, and you guys were calling him senile. But hey, so far Seymour has been worth every penny of that 1st rounder, and has become just as, if not more important than Asomugha on our team.
He was not a major reason. He was part of it, but the major reasons were our QBs, Andrew Walter and JRuss. They are the ones who destroyed us. I would like to see a team win with those guys. lol
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
i know everyone of those players
and zach miller led the team in recieving 3 seasons in a row so yeah i guess u can he is the best on the team. was 2nd in recieving as a rookie in 07 and leading rec in 08 09 10 . . agree to disagree on davis he is a major factor in the raiders problems over last decade or so. as any owner and gm would be a major factor in bad times and good times. fired coaches i was thinking more in the line of shanahan gruden shell heck even crable kiffen wasnt a good coach but that whole situation was handled poorly.
Agree to disagree is about as good as you can get here.
There were red flags on the JRuss pick. He chose to ignore them:
Our sources at the combine tell us that, although LSU quarterback JaMarcus Russell might still be headed for a top-five spot in the draft, he was looking a little JaMeaty at his official weigh-in on Friday.
"He looked more like Charles Barkley than a football player," said the source of Russell, who tipped the scales at 265 pounds.
He had "a lot of loose tissue in the midsection" and looked like he hasn’t seen a weight room in months, with "very little muscle definition for such a big guy."
It shouldn’t be a problem if he’s drafted by the Browns, since they’re sure to eventually put him on the staph infection diet.
The original article is down, but it was repeated here.
It’s really no surprise that he kept getting bigger and bigger since he started off undisciplined in that area to begin with.
Whatever. This post was about my love for the Pats, and not my loathe for Al Davis. The league wouldn’t be the same without him, but I think he’s lost a step or three.
Agree to disagree.
On another note, I hate how people archive all their old stuff so it’s hard to find a link later. Massively annoying.
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.
Some people can learn from the mistakes of others, while some people need to pee on the electric fence themselves.
by SlotMachinePlayer on Jul 18, 2011 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions
i agree slot
for all the praise that davis has gotten as a owner for the good he did in the 70 80 etc comes the bad he did recently cant have it both ways. he was a major factor in all the raider success and al davis was a major factor in the bad stuff as well just like any other owner or gm. its hard enough to win in this league alone with a bad owner gm or coach makes it near impossible no matter how many talented players u have.
Fine. Agree to disagree.
And the raiders were desperate to get a QB at the time. I would not want andrew walter to start(he also doesnt have any potential the way russel did). Just wanted to clear that up.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
On another note, I wish the Raiders all the best.
Any year but LAST year, that is (I really wanted a top 5 draft pick), or any time they play the Pats.
I harbor no ill will toward the team whatsoever. I only give you a little crap, because it’s fun to do so, and you’ve shown you can not only take it but dish it back. It’s all good.
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Jul 19, 2011 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions
lol I am fine with the raider things thrown at me. I am used to it(i live in new england after all, and i have friends who know
i am also a raiders fan. lol). Its all good.
I just try to get some records strait so to speak. Like you know how people use (still do sometimes) call the pats cheaters on their own blog. We all go over there, and tell them the facts, and debate about WHY it wasn’t cheating as in the way they are saying it.
Most of the stuff Al does gets blown up by the media, and like when people start calling the pats cheaters, it gets raider fans sort of irritated. They sort of make it like some kind of circus when he does something, but I guess these are the same people who talk about favre a lot as well, so they need something to talk about. lol
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
True, the media magnifies what it wants to magnify
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Jul 19, 2011 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Agree to disagree then.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
We needed a QB, and they got who was considered the best available. Its like complaining to the chargers that they got Ryan Leaf. Its not all management, its also the player himself.
JRuss chose to take drugs, and not care. He was extremely detrimental to our failures as a whole, not al davis. The coaches were a joke as well. Hell, having bad influences on the team in the years(such as jruss and sapp) killed us. Al spent a first on trading for richard seymour, who has basically added that team spirit for us, and kicked out the bad eggs(jruss).
the fallback plan after a few years was Campbell, and that sure has worked out so far. And it took 3 years, the first year he was not playing at all.
So in a way, Al gave him two years before he kicked him out.
And the coaches he brought in the players were not found of. Hell, our last coach was not very good at calling plays, and he did not like Al. It was not really Tom Cable who brought us to an 8-8 season, it was Hue Jackson, who Al gave most of the power too.
Oh yeah, and our draft selections have been pretty good as of late, and im not just talking about last seasons. most of our selections have panned out nicely for us. Its just that a few(like jruss….) bad ones get more attention so the media can bash the raiders when they feel like it. And yeah, the media and the nfl hates the raiders because Al has a history with them.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
Purple Drank is not drugs
It’s functionally equivalent to alcohol
It’s not crack or heroin or meff.
EFT!
JaMarcus was FAT and that’s cos he was lazy, not cos he was on the sizurp. Which is excellent.
by quadruple option on Jul 16, 2011 4:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Oh really?
http://www.goaskalice.columbia.edu/9557.html
Its in the first sentence. lol
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
and just to clarify
And it took 3 years, the first year he was not playing at all.
So in a way, Al gave him two years before he kicked him out.
That was meant for jruss.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
#1 reason I am thankful to be a Pats fan
TMFB. I am old enough to have seen his peers. Montana, Young, Elway. It dont happen much but thank god for you Tommy. You can wear what you want, keep your hair or shave it off, have kids or marry any superduper model you choose. NOW GET BACK TO WORK
Jeffrey M Melhorn
I've got him at #4, but the list isn't necessarily in order of importance.
It was more of a stream of conciousness work.
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.
Some people can learn from the mistakes of others, while some people need to pee on the electric fence themselves.
by SlotMachinePlayer on Jul 14, 2011 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Randy Moss!
Let's suit up boys and show America some true Patriotism.
by Yardpenalty.com on Jul 15, 2011 6:05 PM EDT reply actions
I didn't realise I'd logged onto S & B Pride...
"Perhaps it was the Noid who should have avoided me." Mayor Adam West
LOL
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.
Some people can learn from the mistakes of others, while some people need to pee on the electric fence themselves.
by SlotMachinePlayer on Jul 19, 2011 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions
lol
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP



































