dream about Randy Moss...

by gnatecolby on Jul 20, 2011 11:11 PM EDT

As the end of the lockout nears I am allowing myself to come back to PP. After reading some here and elsewhere I had a not so uncommon Patriots dream. In this one Randy Moss was back on the team. I have always thought there was some outside chance since his value and thus the price will be low. I think the lockout lasting as long as it has also lends to this as he will know the playbook from day one. This is the trouble with this short FA period, limited time for players to be integrated into systems.

In my dream I was watching the week 3 game and commentators were commenting that Brady and Moss looked like the old combo and were carving up the simple defenses teams were playing because of the lockout shortened off season. I think offenses will simplify also and teams with passing and timing offenses will suffer early in the season. For this reason i think the Patriots could work a deal with Moss and if they only get 8 games and have to cut him for some reason then so be it, it will bridge the gap until the offense is in sync. Thoughts on this?

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moss coming back to this team

would be closer to a nightmare then a dream…….

by brady12mvp3 on Jul 21, 2011 7:55 AM EDT reply actions

That's what I was thinking, but I could see it either way.

It could be heaven or it could be hell.

I think 10 to 20% chance of heaven, and 80 – 90% chance of hell.

Long odds on that one.

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by SlotMachinePlayer on Jul 21, 2011 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions

Moss is gone,

He’s not coming back.

"Perhaps it was the Noid who should have avoided me." Mayor Adam West

by ISN on Jul 21, 2011 8:07 AM EDT reply actions

I loved Moss, but that ship has sailed

My son was pointing out to me that without Moss a lot of the excitement in the offense left too. He was specifically remembering how every time the camera panned to Brady dropping back and winding up to launch the ball downfield, each one of us would immediately jump up in anticipation of what was to come – and in 2007 it was usually some dead on throw by Brady and a spectacular catch or TD by none other than Randy Moss.

He’s right, but the threat of trusting a Randy Moss who doesn’t make the all-out effort is too anxiety-producing (and too interception-producing) to want to revisit his presence back on the team. They ended it well and should leave that relationship alone.

Keep the faith!

by Marima on Jul 21, 2011 12:11 PM EDT reply actions

agreed with most of this

I agree that there has to be trust that he will try, but if he’s not motivated you just cut him again with nothing lost. I would go with a playbook that is created without him and just insert him where Tate would be to some extent. If they don’t double-team him so be it, the only team that will not is the JETS and we will find an answer there and they will also likely be without Cromartie who covered Moss a lot due to his size. So unless there is an idea that he will be cancerous to the locker room I don’t see a downside, he had the same downside when they traded for him so and when it was time they cut him, here I trust he would have more motivation to go it the Pats way and an even shorter leash. He didn’t say a word in Tenessee really so who knows.

by gnatecolby on Jul 21, 2011 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions

One Problem

This team has to find a way to match up better with the JETS and Moss is not that answer. He has been lost on Revis Island way to long, time to move on.

by Brady's Revenge on Jul 21, 2011 3:18 PM EDT reply actions

the JETS will look significantly different next year...

My co-worker sees them as competing for a super-bowl and i vehemently disagree. I do not see them making the playoffs. If they make the playoffs they can make another decent run but I don’t see them wining the division and I see someone else with a better record for the Wild Cards. Not to say that we do not split with them in the regular season but I don’t think they have the depth to deal with injuries that may occur because of the shortened offseason.

by gnatecolby on Jul 21, 2011 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions

And we do?

I don’t believe we should disregard the fact that the JETS have gone to two straight AFC tilte games, where as the Pats can’t seem to get out of their own way once the Playoffs hit. I believe that our offensive line is very thin where the JETS is very strong. To see them not making the playoffs sounds kind of foolish, as much as I hate them, they are talented and have a coach that schemes just as well as Bill.

by Brady's Revenge on Jul 28, 2011 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions

They lucked into both.

Colts laid down in 09, and they needed a 50 yard kick return, a bad timeout and then everything that went wrong for the Pats to get to the AFC championship game last year. That’s after everything they needed to make the playoffs last year, too (Suh missing an extra point, for example).

We’ll improve over last year on defense, and we’ve drafted some different pieces on offense. We should be able to match them, at least.

"Perhaps it was the Noid who should have avoided me." Mayor Adam West

by ISN on Jul 29, 2011 3:22 AM EDT up reply actions