Remaining Free Agent DE/DTs

by Jack'sAxe on Jul 30, 2011 10:55 AM EDT

From Walterfootball.com

Aubrayo Franklin, NT, 49ers. Age: 31.
Aubrayo Franklin is coming off great back-to-back years - but he's never played this well when not in a contract season. As I wrote last year, caveat emptor.

Cullen Jenkins, DE/DT, Packers. Age: 30.
Cullen Jenkins dominates the line of scrimmage when he's on the field. Unfortunately, Jenkins is often injured; he has missed 17 games in the past three years.

Mike Patterson, DT, Eagles. Age: 28.
Mike Patterson doesn't provide much of a pass rush, but he's an excellent run defender. He's a 4-3 player only. There's some dispute about whether Patterson is a free agent or not. A Washington Post salary cap expert believes Patterson will become a free agent if no CBA is met by March 4.

Pat Williams, NT, Vikings. Age: 38.
A two-down run-stuffer, Pat Williams still got it done this season despite playing at 38 years old. He'll try to help a contender

Justin Bannan, DE/DT, Broncos. Age: 32.
Justin Bannan had a solid year for the Broncos, which makes you wonder why they released him. Bannan can play in both the 4-3 and 3-4.

These are the guys Im interested in. As for OLB, there are mostly 4-3 guys. If we are going for 4-3, I would be interested with Manny Lawson.

IF we are moving to a 4-3, Kirk Morrison would be good OLB. decent vs. the pass, but good against the run. Will talk about more players later, as I have to leave now. lol

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Kirk Morrison is a MLB

We’re stacked at that position

by Dirrty30 on Jul 30, 2011 11:22 AM EDT reply actions

he is more fit at 4-3 OLB

us raider fans know this. lol

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by Jack'sAxe on Jul 30, 2011 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions

4-3 OLB = 3-4 ILB

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by ISN on Jul 30, 2011 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions

Generally

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by ISN on Jul 30, 2011 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions

Since I don't think we'll shift our base defense around.

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by ISN on Jul 30, 2011 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions

Mayo's played the Sam, Mike and Will spots in college before, so he could be used anywhere.

Guyton would fit in a Will role.
Spikes has played the Sam and Mike I believe.

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by SlotMachinePlayer on Jul 31, 2011 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions

I'd go with Spikes at Mike.

His lack of speed isn’t as big a deal there dice we don’t run a T-2 and he doesn’t have to cover he seam.
Put Guyton at Sam over a TE, and leave Mayo on Spikes’ right at Will, with the green dot. He can call the plays, and I trust Spikes’ judgement/instincts to make adjustments from the middle.

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by ISN on Jul 31, 2011 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions

I said up top though, that IF we move to 4-3. lol

by Jack'sAxe on Jul 31, 2011 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions

also who else do we have at ILB other than spikes and mayo?

Kirk would be good replacing Mayo to get him rest, or replacing spikes.

by Jack'sAxe on Jul 31, 2011 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions

Fletcher and Guyton.

Fletcher was apparently getting some reps on the outside, so maybe he’s out. Guyton is a sub for Spikes on 3rd down.
I’m not taking Mayo off the field unless early 2000s Ray Lewis is subbing for him. Or perhaps Patrick Willis.

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by ISN on Jul 31, 2011 12:43 AM EDT up reply actions

guyton is only good against the pass really. morrison is more all around better.

by Jack'sAxe on Jul 31, 2011 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions

Probably.

But I don’t think we’re looking at bringing in 4-3 OLBs or 3-4 ILBs.

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by ISN on Jul 31, 2011 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions

I understand. :)

by Jack'sAxe on Jul 31, 2011 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions

I'd go for Roth at OLB, if anyone.

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by Richard Hill on Jul 30, 2011 11:24 AM EDT reply actions

I didnt see Matt Roth available on walterfootball..

also Shaun Ellis is available still.

by Jack'sAxe on Jul 30, 2011 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions

Where's Chad Greenway?

Is he still on the market? and why since we were gift wrapped Haynesworth and Chad johnson was a given since last year(also somewhat gift wrapped), and with Philly tagging Roger’s-Cromarti, Nnamdi Asiago for their backfield still having Asante Samuals as well ind you. Cullen jenkin’s is now a Philly Eagle as well! Can we just shellsome doe out for the best OLB available on a two or three year deal and not only get the job done, but clear some needed roster spot’s as well…?

by C.C. on Jul 31, 2011 5:28 PM EDT reply actions

greenway is franchised by the vikes. dont know if hes signed.

by Jack'sAxe on Jul 31, 2011 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions

I'll have a shot at answering, the questions aren't clear.

Chad Greenway was given the Vikes’ franchise tag, and he’s an ILB. Not sure we need another, regardless of a potential shift towards a 4-3.
Yes, Philly now have 3 cornerbacks. That’s an upgrade on the one they had last year. They’ll try and ship Samuel, I guess, but he’s not coming back here.
The best OLB available is Tamba Hali. While he would certainly be a capable player, he’s far too expensive to obtain (he’s tagged, and would need a big contract to come here). There are good options out there, at a cheaper price. Matt Roth played under Crennel and Mangini in Cleveland, Manny Lawson played DE and OLB in the 49ers’ “hybrid” D.

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by ISN on Aug 1, 2011 2:13 AM EDT up reply actions