Pats Pulpit at Training Camp: 8/3 Notes
The Patriots just wrapped up their seventh day of training camp, a "special" practice of sorts, taking place in Gillette Stadium with season ticket holders in attendance. Here's what happened:
- There was a particular emphasis on rules changes and player safety, with referees taking in and officiating the practice.
- With players in shorts and shells, Much of the practice focused on individual match-ups and situational football, without live tackling. In wide receiver/defensive back and running back/linebacker receiver drills, Rob Gronkowski stepped up making some nice catches, beating Dane Fletcher and Sergio Brown on two different plays. In goal line work, Gronkowski had a nice "post up" on Patrick Chung.
- While the offense struggled at times with many passes off the mark, Taylor Price came up with one nice deep catch.
- Taylor Price actually had two deep grabs on the day, coming up with another one later that had two in coverage, including James Sanders.
- Defensively, rookie free agent linebacker Aaron Lavarias had a great break-up on a Gronkowski intended pass.
- The play of the day once again went to Chad Ochocinco, who made a terrific catch over a perfectly positioned Jonathan Wilhite on a deep pass from Tom Brady down the left sideline.
- When the team broke into a "hurry up" drill, Tom Brady found some success early. He found Rob Gronkowski on consecutive plays, including one deep one down the seam. Brady also found Ochocinco on that drive.
- Brian Hoyer's drive wasn't as successful, ending with a deep attempt to Taylor Price, who got his hands on the ball, but failed to make what would have been a miraculous catch.
- Brady continued his success on the next drive. He found a wide open Wes Welker across the middle, and later found Chad Ochocinco on an out, with Devin McCourty in blanket coverage.
- In a return to seven on sevens, the defense got the better of the offense. Leigh Bodden nearly came up with an interception on a pass intended for Chad Ochocinco. I said it yesterday, but Bodden has had a very impressive start to camp.
- Pat Chung had a couple of nice breakups. At one point, he ripped a pass from Buddy Farnham's hands. At another point, he swatted away a pass intended for Deion Branch over the middle.
- Ryan Mallett had an up-and-down day. On some throws, he really showcased his powerful arm. In an opportunity session at the end of practice, he found Darnell Jenkins in the end zone on two beautifully thrown bombs. At other times, he let the ball get away from him. One example came in the 7 vs. 7 work. The coaches thew a "bag" at him. He was hit, then stepped up to avoid the pressure. While scrambling, he forced the ball into coverage and it was nearly intercepted by Sergio Brown. Overall, none of the quarterbacks looked too accurate today, although they had their moments.
- Although Ryan Mallett had one bad throw while scrambling, Tom Brady, surprisingly, made a good one in red zone 7 vs. 7 work. Brady got himself time, scrambled to the left, and threaded the needle to Rob Gronkowski.
- Brandon Spikes has impressed a lot of people with his elevated play thus far in training camp. He's now impressed me with his autograph signing patience. Spikes, helmet still donned, just signed autographs for an hour following practice. No joke, an hour (at least). Impressive stuff.
The Patriots will be practicing again tomorrow at 4:30 PM (if CBA is ratified, that time could be moved up). Of course, we'll have it covered here at Pats Pulpit so keep checking back!
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I don't want to get ahead of myself...
but I’m hearing a lot of good things about Taylor Price. I’m very happy that he’s progressing the way he is. If Edelman returns to 2009 form, the Patriots could easily have the deepest receiving corps in the league.
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Also, you're killing me with the anticipation of what Pat Chung did "at another"
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by BigRussNovak on Aug 3, 2011 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Dont forget about the TE's
Gronk is an absolute beast and Herndo is a special talent
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by freeland1787 on Aug 4, 2011 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions
Thanks Greg
We’re always ‘benched’ for this practice without the benefit of season-tickets, so I appreciate your first-hand account.
Keep the faith!
We’re not reading anything at all about Tate, Butler, or Ohrnberger.
With 37 +/- releases required over the next four weeks, I would not be at all surprised to see these three names on the released list.
Yeah, and its probably going to end up being more than that.
Last year the pats acquired Jarrad Page and Tracey White on the day of roster cuts. Its still far too close to gauge who’s going to make the roster.
So excited for the preseason games to start.
by beantownboy171 on Aug 3, 2011 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Thank you sir...
..By all accounts Bodden is playing well. And that is great to hear.
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Bodden, McCourty, and perhaps Ras-I on the slot receiver (given his size) could be a formidable trio of DB’s. Who is left?
Butler, Arrington, Wilhite, … ?
How many do the PATS typically keep?
5 generally
Last year we had McCourty, Arrington, Butler, Wilhite and Tony Carter for most of the year, after we cut Terrence Wheatley.
by beantownboy171 on Aug 3, 2011 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Ras-I
Will not be playing the slot receiver. Devin McCourty is a better option for that
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by freeland1787 on Aug 4, 2011 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions
Defensively, rookie free agent linebacker Aaron Lavarias had a great break-up on a Gronkowski intended pass.
That’s a 6’2", 250lb LB. Sounds like they’re not completely abandoning training the college DEs from 3-4 OLB skills.
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I love it.
It really looks like they’ve stock up talent that will allows us to play a 3-4 or a 4-3 D without missing a step.
I don’t know much about the Undrafted free agents. Read some good things about Jeff Tarpinian, Will Yeatman and Jeremy Ross. This is the first time i’ve seen Lavarias’ name come up.
by beantownboy171 on Aug 3, 2011 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions
OLB's need to be able to cover TE's and RB's on occasion in the 3-4
And almost all the time in the 4-3. If he can stop Gronk, then he should get some serious looks in preseason. Hope he impresses
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by freeland1787 on Aug 4, 2011 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions
I really like Taylor Price
It’s going to be a real tough call deciding which WR’s to cut. Ocho, Wes and Branch are locks. Edelman and Tate both are very useful in the return game (Edelman more-so now than Tate now that kickoffs have been moved up). It looks like Slater’s time might finally come this year. Also, Darnell Jenkins is unlikely to make it to the practice squad. Jeremy Ross and Tyree Barnes are fighting for a spot on the practice squad, while Buddy Farnham seems like a definite odd man out.
As for Ryan Mallett, seeing as none of the QB’s are in-sync right now i’m not too worried. We’ll see how he progresses, It’d be nice to see if we could get Hoyer’s stuck up high enough where we could swing him for a draft pick.
For those who don’t know it. The patriots don’t have a single draft pick past the 4th round next year.
Patriots will keep 6 WR so no hard decisions. Branch is most expendable due to age. His “special” relationship with Brady means nothing at his age.
That's what I was just thinking actually.
Branch could very well be cut if both Tate and Price have good showings this summer. Although I don’t know if Tate is showing much at the moment.
by beantownboy171 on Aug 3, 2011 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Branch still looks good out there. Here's how I would rank the wide receivers, in terms of who is "sticking out":
1. Chad Ochocinco
2. Wes Welker
3. Deion Branch
4. Taylor Price
5. Darnell Jenkins
6. Julian Edelman
7. Brandon Tate
8. Buddy Farnham
9. Jeremy Ross
10. Matt Slater
11. Tyree Barnes
by Greg Knopping on Aug 3, 2011 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions
That's pretty interesting
that you have Darnell Jenkins so high. What kind of receiver is he? Of the players currently on the roster, who is he most similar too?
by beantownboy171 on Aug 3, 2011 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I dont think Jenkins can beat Tate
Tate is much faster and an excellent return man. I know he is buried on the depth chart, but with Ocho on the team, there is less pressure for Tate to be the deep threat. Price IMO is a better receiver and is the best deep threat on the team due to his speed and physical skills.
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by freeland1787 on Aug 4, 2011 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions
If we can somehow squeeze Jenkins on to the practice squad.
Then great. But I doubt he makes it there.
He’s certainly great to have around though in case of injury.
by beantownboy171 on Aug 4, 2011 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions
I said this is a ranking of players who have "stood out" to me
I haven’t seen anything particularly bad from Tate except for one drop. On the other hand, I’ve seen Darnell Jenkins make a lot of nice plays.
by Greg Knopping on Aug 4, 2011 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Also, it all depends on if Slater is going to be kept on for his special teams play.
You’ve got to think the changes in the kick-off rules hurt his chances.
by beantownboy171 on Aug 3, 2011 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I doubt it
Edelman should be that guy instead since the only reason he is still here is to return punts. It adds to his value and usefulness on the team
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by freeland1787 on Aug 4, 2011 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Edelman would be playing for any other team.
He just happens to be behind Welker here. So he sticks regardless.
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by ISN on Aug 4, 2011 2:07 AM EDT up reply actions
The kickoffs won't change that much.
Only a few could pit it in the end zone to begin with, giving them 5 yards isn’t going to result in 31 kickers putting it out the back of the end zone. How many times do you see guys running it back from more than a few yards deep?
Slater could be in trouble though, the ST guys are relatively expendable. Maybe the TCU CB Williams pushes him out this year.
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by ISN on Aug 4, 2011 2:06 AM EDT up reply actions
Put it in the end zone
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by ISN on Aug 4, 2011 2:07 AM EDT up reply actions
The lack of picks isn't a concern.
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by ISN on Aug 4, 2011 2:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, if we've still got a first or a second, then BB will amass a half dozen late round picks from his normal shuffling.
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Aug 4, 2011 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I think Edelman is a critical piece given that Welker is returning from major knee surgery. In fact, I hope they rotate Welker and Edelman a bit more to keep both fresh. I believe Branch is here to stay. I felt that Ocho was brought in specifically to create a double outside threat with Branch on one side and Ocho on the other. That tandem occupies the best two DB’s.
by OneOpinion on Aug 4, 2011 8:07 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
How about Ras-I Dowling
I heard he didn’t attend this practice, and is injury related?

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