Quick Take: Giants 18 Patriots 17
by Greg Knopping on Sep 1, 2011 11:04 PM EDT
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Quick-hit thoughts from the Patriots 18-17 loss to the New York Giants:
Patriots Starters Bounce Back. Overall, the Patriots starters did a decent job in bouncing back from the Lions debacle. Tom Brady and both starting groups played nearly the entire first half, entering the break with a 17-3 lead. On the night, Tom Brady was far from spectacular, but looked solid enough to warrant a passing grade.
Haynesworth, Ellis Step Up in Debuts. Along the defensive line, two major offseason acquisitions for the Patriots, Albert Haynesworth and Shaun Ellis, both debuted. Ellis started the game at left end, picking up a pressure and a second quarter sack. Haynesworth started at defensive tackle and rotated in and out, pushing the pocket on pass plays, and coming up with a nice run-stop.
Defense Takes Advantage of Opportunities. The Patriots' top defense let up some yards, but came up with three key turnovers in the first half which helped stall Giants drives and set the team up in scoring position. Devin McCourty's interception on the second drive was a real beauty.
Reserve Offensive Line Struggles. The ugliest part of tonight's game was probably the play of the reserve offensive line for the Patriots. The unit really struggled, with Jonathan Compas standing out in particular with his poor play.
Molden, Underwood Solid in Debuts. Tiquan Underwood and Antwaun Molden, two recent Patriots pick-ups, each made some plays in tonight's game. Underwood was a frequent target of Brian Hoyer and Ryan Mallett, coming up with four grabs (although he did have a drop). Molden had a nice pass breakup in the second half, and picked up three total tackles.
Frustrating Fourth Quarter Collapse from Third Unit. The Patriots, deep into their reserves, had a 17-3 fourth quarter lead and were seemingly in control. However, the Giants faked a punt, with Da'Rel Scott taking the ball 65 yards into the end zone. Kind of strange, a team faking a punt in the fourth quarter of a final preseason game, but the Patriots should have been prepared. Shortly after that, Richard Medlin had a fumble that was picked up by the Giants' Derrick Martin, who took the ball into the end zone. The Giants went for two and converted, and took the lead 18-17. The Patriots offense had a couple of chances to retake the lead, but their offensive line simply couldn't hold up to the Giants pass rush.
Preseason Over, Final Cuts and Dolphins Next. Tonight's loss to the Giants marked the end of a very up-and-down preseason for the Patriots. And now, the real fun begins. Rosters will have to be cut down to 53 players by Saturday, so we'll be sure to see a lot of roster moves in the next day and a half. Following that, the team will take on the Miami Dolphins on Monday, September 12th.
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I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Giant LB'z SUCK!!? Mark Herzlich, Greg Jones,Spencer Paysinger...Maybe not..
That's alright.
Their first stringers aren’t much of a step up, anyway. Especially at QB.
"Perhaps it was the Noid who should have avoided me." Mayor Adam West
by ISN on Sep 2, 2011 3:19 AM EDT up reply actions
hmmm
you really wanna go there?
Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
I will not - lose! -Jay Z-
Learn to take a joke. Eli's an upgrade for all but about 6 teams.
"Perhaps it was the Noid who should have avoided me." Mayor Adam West
by ISN on Sep 2, 2011 7:10 AM EDT up reply actions
Although if someone said he's the second-worst starter in his Division, I might believe it.
Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.
Contributing Writer at PatsPulpit
When he's not injured
He carries his team far more than Eli does.
Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.
Contributing Writer at PatsPulpit
Romo carries the offense.
They don’t have a defensive component.
"Perhaps it was the Noid who should have avoided me." Mayor Adam West
They have a defensive component
it just so happens to be tackling optional.
if you couldn't sense my sarcasm..
Total Access pretty much called both Eli & Romo out last night.
I’m glad to see some analysts finally realizing Eli isn’t all that great, and Romo even being in the converstation because of one good year and a contract that puts him in the “top” QB discussion.
GFY
by TFBismywingman on Sep 2, 2011 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions
Well, if you don't count Eli's turnovers...
It’s so frustrating to hear analysts start a discussion about how great Eli is with that caveat.
Keep the faith!
Hey Eli has to act on the play that's called in whether it's turnovers,
or tarts or muffins or whatever. It’s just called doing your job … at the bakery … which beats the CITGO.
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.
Some people can learn from the mistakes of others, while some people need to pee on the electric fence themselves.
My life has been a trivial pursuit. Trivia: where three roads meet.
by SlotMachinePlayer on Sep 2, 2011 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Whats awesome about that
I actually had my gas pumped at Citgo back in June when I was flying home out of Logan
GFY
by TFBismywingman on Sep 2, 2011 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions
...by Adalius Thomas?
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.
Some people can learn from the mistakes of others, while some people need to pee on the electric fence themselves.
My life has been a trivial pursuit. Trivia: where three roads meet.
by SlotMachinePlayer on Sep 2, 2011 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions
I think AT had been promoted to the register
GFY
by TFBismywingman on Sep 2, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions
He has some skills.
He might make part time manager and slushie maker if he plays his cards right.
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.
Some people can learn from the mistakes of others, while some people need to pee on the electric fence themselves.
My life has been a trivial pursuit. Trivia: where three roads meet.
by SlotMachinePlayer on Sep 2, 2011 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't get the Romo hate around the league.
His year by year passer ratings are pretty damn good – 95.1, 97.4, 91.4, 97.6, 94.9. His lowest completion percentage is 61.3%, every other year it’s been over 63. He has a 2-1 TD-INT ratio…
He clearly doesn’t suck, and whatever personality traits he may or may not possess, he’s a top 10 NFL QB.
"Perhaps it was the Noid who should have avoided me." Mayor Adam West
by ISN on Sep 2, 2011 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
My top 10:
1. Brady
2. Manning (Yes still. I fear him more than any other QB in the league. Most dangerous QB IMO)
3. Brees
4. Rivers
5. Rodgers
6. Roethlisberger
7. Ryan
8. Vick
9. Schaub
10. Romo/Eli
PS~ Freeman is coming folks! In a few years he, Stafford and Bradford will be vying for that number 1 spot perhaps.
Lewis Hamilton~ 2011 F1 Champion!!!
Life is about who makes it, not who makes it the fastest! Drive slow homie.
imo
Matt Ryan And Bradford will be the next Brady-Manning
and Stafford will by the Rivers (with Calvin Johnson I cant see why not).
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
I disagree with that
Only because I could see Stafford making it to the dance if he stays healthy, and even winning it.
I agree, Ryan's best years are still far ahead of him, but i am very much impressed
by Freeman, Stafford (health pending) and Bradford.
Lewis Hamilton~ 2011 F1 Champion!!!
Life is about who makes it, not who makes it the fastest! Drive slow homie.
I think stafford will be great of healthy.
tall WRs like san diego, and he has a pass catching RB in Best, and he has a very good TE in Pettigrew.
I think both team have similarities in terms of weapons as well.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
They'll be Elway-Montana-Marino,
Rather than Brady-Manning.
"Perhaps it was the Noid who should have avoided me." Mayor Adam West
by ISN on Sep 3, 2011 1:41 AM EDT up reply actions
I guess.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
Swap Schaub and Ryan, and Rodgers with a tiebreaker (ring) over Rivers, and you're there.
I’d hold off a bit on Vick, too. Let’s see him do it again.
"Perhaps it was the Noid who should have avoided me." Mayor Adam West
by ISN on Sep 3, 2011 1:38 AM EDT up reply actions
I think he's miles above Eli as a QB.
Plus he doesn’t look like he doesn’t know what day it is when something goes wrong. Romo’s biggest problem is Jerry Jones, if he had. A comparable defense to the Giants he’d have played in a Super Bowl.
"Perhaps it was the Noid who should have avoided me." Mayor Adam West
by ISN on Sep 3, 2011 1:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Well we play his squad in week 6, so here's hoping he sucks just as bad as Eli.
Lewis Hamilton~ 2011 F1 Champion!!!
Life is about who makes it, not who makes it the fastest! Drive slow homie.
Of course.
It’ll be their defense that loses that game, though.
"Perhaps it was the Noid who should have avoided me." Mayor Adam West
by ISN on Sep 3, 2011 2:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Maybe. I've never seen that offense be world beating. Good but nothing special.
Lewis Hamilton~ 2011 F1 Champion!!!
Life is about who makes it, not who makes it the fastest! Drive slow homie.
His year by year passer ratings are pretty damn good – 95.1, 97.4, 91.4, 97.6, 94.9. His lowest completion percentage is 61.3%, every other year it’s been over 63. He has a 2-1 TD-INT ratio…
He clearly doesn’t suck, and whatever personality traits he may or may not possess, he’s a top 10 NFL QB.
That’s world-beating.
Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.
Contributing Writer at PatsPulpit
yeah, sure, whatever
but he plays for the Cowboys.
Bleah.
NBA Officiating - Corrupt? Incompetent? Which is worse? Does it matter? It sucks.
An actual upgrade, not to say that 26 teams would take him over their guy.
"Perhaps it was the Noid who should have avoided me." Mayor Adam West
Didn't really sound like a joke
Thats why I asked.
Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
I will not - lose! -Jay Z-
I disagree with the Underwood assessment. Yes he had 4 catches for 42 but it seemed like he dropped several. Tate’s hand’s were also unimpressive and it looked like he ran the wrong route twice, unless Mallett was just off. But Mallet was pissed after those misses so I think it was Tate.
Kind of strange, a team faking a punt in the fourth quarter of a final preseason game, but the Patriots should have been prepared
not really, with the Giants being so deep at RB their looking for ways to incorporate D Scott (and his speed) as many ways as possible..
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Giant LB'z SUCK!!? Mark Herzlich, Greg Jones,Spencer Paysinger...Maybe not..
Then give him a rep on fourth down or on the next series
If they ever planned on using that play in the regular season, it will be a lot more likely to fail now
by Greg Knopping on Sep 2, 2011 1:47 AM EDT up reply actions
wait what ?
the guy had a 96 yd run last week (in limited carries), and u saw what he did today . hes been berried behind BJ, Bradshaw,Ware and Brown this preseason.
Giants haven’t used a fake punt in like a decade( that’s the jets thing) . i don’t see teams hittin the preseason tape n game planning for the 4th string RB.
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Giant LB'z SUCK!!? Mark Herzlich, Greg Jones,Spencer Paysinger...Maybe not..
What kind of berries we talkin about here?
Blueberry? Strawberry? ooooh blackberry?? This information is important!
raspberries...
Team Intervention:
Greg Jones
Tyler Sash
Jason Pierre-Paul
Will Beatty
Justin Trattou
by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 2, 2011 8:47 AM EDT up reply actions
love my " berries"..
buried … thanks for the subtle spell correct.
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Giant LB'z SUCK!!? Mark Herzlich, Greg Jones,Spencer Paysinger...Maybe not..
Sorry I couldn't help myself.
In fairness your team did make the Pats look really silly on that fake punt.
The Snozberries taste like Snozberries!
Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.
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More pyscho Gene Wilder!
"Perhaps it was the Noid who should have avoided me." Mayor Adam West
by ISN on Sep 2, 2011 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I wasn't too high on the Pats after the two big wins
And I’m not too low on them after these tough losses. I still think this is an 11-13 win team.
"You wanna know which ring is my favorite? The next one." --Tom Brady
by Treima on Sep 2, 2011 2:05 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
So we stop talking 16-0 until they're 15-0. No biggie.
"Perhaps it was the Noid who should have avoided me." Mayor Adam West
by ISN on Sep 2, 2011 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Call me crazy but i say 13-3 at worst.
Lewis Hamilton~ 2011 F1 Champion!!!
Life is about who makes it, not who makes it the fastest! Drive slow homie.
I say 12-4 at worst.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
I'm talking about the Pats, not your belief for your beloved Raiders :)
Lewis Hamilton~ 2011 F1 Champion!!!
Life is about who makes it, not who makes it the fastest! Drive slow homie.
Im talking about the pats too.
And I think raiders go 10-6
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
So with that record i'm assuming you have them winning the division.
Breakdown your projected records for AFC West plz.
Lewis Hamilton~ 2011 F1 Champion!!!
Life is about who makes it, not who makes it the fastest! Drive slow homie.
Chargers 12-4
Raiders: 10-6
Chiefs: 9-7
Broncos: 2-14
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
And I don't know who will win the west.
Its up in the air, except for the Broncos
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
The si.com prediction was 14-2.
The player that needed to step up: the punter. Sounds like they’re in a good spot.
"Perhaps it was the Noid who should have avoided me." Mayor Adam West
by ISN on Sep 3, 2011 1:42 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm concerned about the lack of depth on the o-line, but the rest of the team looks solid to me.
If everyone stays healthy, this should be another big year.
Shawn Camp earned my dog several beatings back in 2007
by wtbudlight on Aug 30, 2010 5:54 PM PDT
Kind of glad we got Solder in the first.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
I voted "Encouraged" because we got through preseason with no significant injuries.
And as long as this team is healthy, it’s going to be damn good.
Also, in this theme, the fact that Ellis and Albert both played and demonstrated that they look healthy is a huge factor. I don’t really care about the ‘level of competition’ demonstrated in pre-season games. Just whether people look healthy and they are physically able to execute the limited playset that preseason involves.
Ellis and Albert both looked strong and like they were moving without any limitations. To me, that validates that we will indeed have the DL depth that we have been talking about.
Preseason games just don’t involve the same sort of game planning and intensity that happens in the regular season so I don’t worry too much about outcomes.
NBA Officiating - Corrupt? Incompetent? Which is worse? Does it matter? It sucks.
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