New England Patriots Links 9/14/11 - Bruschi to Ocho: "Drop the Awe Factor, Get in Your Playbook"
by Marima on Sep 14, 2011 10:38 AM EDT
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Christopher Price reports Tedy Bruschi challenged Chad Ochocinco to stop acting like a fan and get into the playbook if he wants to contribute.
"Drop the awe factor, OK, Ocho? Chad, drop the awe factor," Bruschi said. "You’re not a fan, all right. You’re not someone who’s on another team or watching TV. You’re not an analyst. You’re a part of it. They want you to be a part of it. So get with the program because obviously you’re not getting it and you’re tweeting because you’re saying, ‘It’s amazing to see’? It’s amazing to see because you don’t understand it. You still don’t understand it and it’s amazing to you because you can’t get it.
"Stop tweeting and get in your playbook," Bruschi added. "Wake up! If you’re just waking up now — I don’t know when this was, six minutes ago? — get out your bed and get to the stadium and watch some film if you still think it’s amazing. If you’re in it and you know what you’re doing and you execute out there you don’t think it’s amazing. You know why? Because it’s what you’re supposed to do."
Nick Caserio turns his focus to the San Diego Chargers and what strengths they'll bring to New England.
"Defensively, this is a pretty disciplined group. They've got a lot of good football players at all three different levels: the front seven, the linebacking corps – they signed Takeo Spikes – the inside – Donald Butler didn't play last year. Along the defensive front or front seven, they signed Travis LaBoy, Antwan Barnes, who gave us some problems last year rushing the passer. They drafted Corey Liuget who looks like he's going to be a pretty good player for them. They sustained an injury there to [Luis] Castillo the other day, but they've got a lot of depth and their secondary, collectively as a group. [Eric] Weddle is probably as good of a weak safety as there is – a very smart, instinctive player, very aware, good ball skills. And [Quentin] Jammer has been a real productive player for their secondary here – basically since he's been a rookie. And then [Antoine] Cason's given them a lot of good snaps. So defensively, they certainly present a lot of problems.
And offensively, they've got a lot of weapons. They lost [Darren] Sproles, but between [Mike] Tolbert and Ryan Mathews in the running game and the passing game for that matter out of the backfield, they present some issues. And then [Antonio] Gates is as good a tight end as there is in the league. They've got a bunch of big receivers: [Malcom] Floyd had a lot of production for them last year. [Vincent] Jackson looks like he's back at playing at a high level. I think across the board, this is a good football team. A.J. [Smith] and Coach [Norv] Turner, they've put together a solid group. We're certainly going to have our hands full. This has been a consistent, high-performing team for a number of years now, so we're going to have to prepare on a short week and get ready to go out there and play our best game to date."
TEAM TALK
- Game Preview: New England Patriots vs. San Diego Chargers. Broadcast info, series history, team connections, and more.
- Ask PFW: Passing thoughts.
- Conference Call transcripts: Bill Belichick - Nick Caserio - Bill O'Brien.
- Patriots Today - Zolak analyzes the Pats' win. (2.40 min. video)
- Patriots Today - Record-setting offense. (2.57 min. video)
- Patriots Today - Focused on the Chargers. (1.46 min. video)
- WEEI Patriots Monday (on a Tuesday): Danny Woodhead, Vince Wilfork and Bill Belichick.
LOCAL LINKS
- ESPNBoston reports Tom Brady is named AFC Offensive Player of the Week.
- Christopher Price highlights Bill Belichick and Bill O'Brien talking about the Patriots' uptempo approach against Miami.
- Ian Rapoport writes how the Patriots took advantage of the Dolphins defense being winded and out of breath.
- WEEI highlights Tom Brady's Q&A on the Dennis & Callahan show this morning. Some good perspective on the Miami game here.
- Mike Reiss shares some follow-up thoughts from the Patriots' season-opening win over the Dolphins after re-watching the game, and goes easier on McCourty.
- Tom E. Curran gives us 44 lines on 22 Patriots issues.
- Greg A. Bedard tells us how the defense we saw Monday night was fundamentally sound and an improvement over 2010.
- Greg A. Bedard piles even more evidence that the defense played well against the Dolphins. The start and finish to the game skew the stats out of context.
- Shalise Manza Young reports the Patriots insist they can do better and are focused on what needs fixing.
- Rich Levine talks about the Miami 500 was just Brady being Brady.
- ESPNBoston puts context behind the Patriots' historic offensive output against the Dolphins. (1 min. video)
- Chris Gasper details how Wes Welker may play like a man possessed but he's much more than just a possession receiver
- Greg A. Bedard graphs out Monday's play of the game.
- Rich Levine lists Tom Brady's five biggest games, saying Monday night was one for the books.
- Mike Reiss focuses on the performance of core special teamers in Monday's win.
- Rich Levine thinks Eric Mangini's regret over spygate is a load of crap.
- Shalise Manza Young Patriots Notebook: Dan Koppen has a "small crack, bad sprain", likely having surgery to insert a screw in his ankle, and will miss 6-10 weeks; Nick Caserio doesn't elaborate on why Brandon Spikes was scratched, since he wasn't listed on the injury report; Matthew Slater gets high praise for his play Sunday and his hard work.
- Ian Rapoport Patriots Notebook: Bill O'Brien credits splurge to team concept; Dan Connelly will be replacing the injured Dan Koppen until Week 9 or 10; Brian Waters was impressed with how Connelly subbed in at center without missing a beat; Leigh Bodden played nickel corner and Dane Fletcher had a few reps at fullback; Pats have a short week to prepare for the Chargers on Sunday.
- Kirk Minihane grades the Patriots with his Week 1 report card.
- Ron Borges grades the Patriots in his Week 1 report card. Must have killed him to give the Hoodie an A.
- David Filipov reports five Boston statues will be decked out in Hoodies today, in honor of NFLN's tribute to Bill Belichick tomorrow night.
- ESPNBoston reports the Patriots-Dolphins MNF season-opener scored big in the ratings.
NATIONAL NEWS
- Albert Breer (NFL.com) Patriots' linemen clear way for Brady's 517-yard outburst.
- Experts Debate (NFL.com) Could Brady's manic Monday launch a season for the ages?
- Matt Bowen (Nat'l Football Post) Fade route to Hartline? That's bad football from Miami.
- Don Banks (SI) Week 1 brought many fresh starts, but not everyone took advantage. /He's looking at you Chad.
- James Walker (ESPN) AFC East stock watch.
- Barry Jackson (Miami Herald) Defensive casualty: Miami Dolphins cut CB Benny Sapp.
- James Walker (ESPN) AFC East Power Rankings analysis.
- Doug Farrar (Yahoo! Sports) Everyone thinks that Tom Brady is a Jedi ... but Jason Taylor disagrees.
- Adam Schein (Fox Sports) Jets a long way from Super Bowl look.
- Gregg Rosenthal (ProFootballTalk) Week one sets records for passing yards, return scores.
- Leigh Steinberg (Nat'l Football Post) Unchartered territory: How much will the abbreviated offseason impact the first few weeks of the 2011 campaign?
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I heard his comments while I was driving yesterday
and knew they’d be a ‘big thing’ today. While Bruschi nailed it with the ‘awe factor’, I have to believe Brady over Bru when he talks about Ocho’s work ethic. Brady is skilled enough with words where he wouldn’t outright lie about something like that.
But he’s right that Ocho has to ditch the fan side of him, take the mental jump from bridge to shore and just BE a part of the team – BE the receiver he was in Cincy and maybe not worry so much about screwing up or getting something wrong here.
Keep the faith!
Concur.
While I too, agree that Ocho needs to drop the ‘fan’ attitude, I think Bruschi (along with other folks) is being unfair here.
Several factors worked against Ocho being able to have a big immediate impact, especially in week 1.
People who like to compare it to bringing in Moss & Welker forget that those two had a full off-season of OTAs & a full preseason to learn the system. Ocho is still missing at least 2-3 weeks of exposure to the system to be at a comparable point.
And the decision to run no-huddle for most of the game worked at odds with playing any skill position personnel who were not completely immersed in the system.
Against a different opponent, if not using the no-huddle, we may have seen more of Ocho. Later in the season, even using the no-huddle, we’ll probably see more of Ocho.
NBA Officiating - Corrupt? Incompetent? Which is worse? Does it matter? It sucks.
in Ocho's defense
it’s only been 7 or 8 weeks since the NFL started. we should be mad if it was a typical regular season but shit he’s behind the power curve. but everybody says his work ethic is unreal and he’s a smart guy. i bet we’re going to see him break through soon.
give the dude a break, i think bruschi really stepped on his dick. he has no idea what hoodie is planning.
patriots have a different offensive gameplan each week
so while ocho has some work to do in order to catch up to everyone else- when he does, he will help add another weapon to the offense
Arizona Diamondbacks: 87-62
New England Patriots: 1-0
by freeland1787 on Sep 14, 2011 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
love Bruschi, but I think his comments (and now Hot Rod’s) are unnecessary.
"There's no place like it, and it's ours." - Stephen King on Fenway Park
by 808BostonSportsFan on Sep 14, 2011 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Yup, their comments are more distracting and bring more negativity on the team, than Chads innocent tweet.
Very smart guys
In GOD I TRUST>In BB i trust......faith where it belongs!!
Life is about who makes it, not who makes it the fastest! Drive slow homie.
I agree.
I don’t think Bruschi was out of line entirely, but all the added emphasis was completely unnecessary.
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by Hometown Gyro on Sep 14, 2011 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Defensive analysis
I think it’s totally crazy to cut out the beginning and end of the game to say the defense played great. The yards, the scores and the big plays all happened. It’s ONE ENTIRE game and when people look at stats 8 weeks from now, they won’t remember to cut out the parts we didn’t like.
If the Dolphins go on to score 24+ points against every other team, then maybe we can say we hung with and outgunned the high-octane phins. I’m not bashing the defense and I know circumstances like the Brady int attributed to the score, but interceptions happen to other teams too. I feel the D made very positive steps over last year and I feel good about the unit going forward.
Let’s hope the defense improves against the Chargers and the offense clicks again. I thought Miami was supposed to have a top CB tandem in the league. Either they played bad or we just played better or the combination of WR’s and TE’s was overwhelming to their whole system. The Chargers line is probably better but I don’t fear their secondary much. In reality, the only thing that worries me about the Chargers is their offense. They have dynamic receivers and QB that never lets up. I’m not sure how their running game will do but they can use the same strategy the Pats use – pass to open up the run.
the last touchdown for the dolphins was in garbage time
so the defense gave up 17 points when it was a game
Arizona Diamondbacks: 87-62
New England Patriots: 1-0
by freeland1787 on Sep 14, 2011 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions
and a ton of their yardage
from the start of the miami drive with 8:48 to go – with the Pats up 31-17, we had Barrett in as part of our soft cover package. We gave up 77 yds on that drive, then after the Welker score that only used up a few seconds on the clock, we let them walk down on a 74 yard drive. Finally after we punted they got the ball with 2:32 remaining and again, our prevent D let them move the ball 63 yds before we intercepted it.
So that’s 214 yds given up all after the game was pretty much over.
Arguably, some of that is the offense’ “fault” since the Welker score was one play that only took 13 seconds and then we had 3-and-out. So our offense was only on the field for 1:19 or so of the final 8:48 of the game.
But I’m never going to complain about a 99 yd scoring drive only taking 13 seconds ….
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Not to mention the offense kinda hung them out
The interception set up a short field before their second TD, and a punt and Welker’s 2nd TD were between 3 long drives too.
Deep in enemy territory
Of the 3 TDs they allowed
only one – on the first drive of the game – was the result of poor defensive play. The second was the result of a very short field from that fluke Brady INT. The third was against the prevent “just keep them in bounds to run out the clock” defense.
Given how well Henne played in the face of consistent pressure all night long, AND how truly talented Miami’s receiving corps is, I think it’s really hard to say the defense had a poor game, especially during a week where we saw some of the top defensive units in the league get absolutely shredded by lesser offenses.
I'm not even sure I would call the first Miami drive a case of 'poor defensive play'.
After all, it was sustained by two amazing catches (Marshall, Fasano).
The first one especially was tight coverage but just perfect placement and a sick catch.
NBA Officiating - Corrupt? Incompetent? Which is worse? Does it matter? It sucks.
Chargers had the number 1 defense in the league last year
And by all accounts they have improved personnel wise.
No, they had the least yards allowed by a defense.
That’s different (or should be) from them being the #1 defense in the league.
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Regardless, they are very good.
True wealth is a shelf full of unread books.
by Hometown Gyro on Sep 14, 2011 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions
that's true, they were first in yardage
and 10th in scoring. However they were second in yards per play after Green Bay, and first in the least amount of first downs allowed. I’m not sure where the special teams impacted their scoring defense, but if it did, it would probably put them up a few notches to closer to a number 5 in scoring allowed.
As Hometown Gyro said, they were very good, regardless, and they look to be better this year. A sound challenge this week.
Miami has a pretty good starting secondary
but, as we saw Monday night, when Vontae Davis left the game with cramps, Brady went after the sub guy, and absolutely torched him. Not saying we didn’t have some success before that, but it was then that we really trucked down the field, and put the game out of reach.
We all want to see him succeed
and he certainly should be given some leeway as far as settling in and learning.
But at a certain point, this is a team that makes personnel decisions based on who makes the most of their opportunities. Look at how abruptly the careers of other WRs like Gabriel, Caldwell, Moss, Tate, Galloway and Holt ended here.
He deserves time to learn and get eased in, but this guy is a vet., a pro, if he doesn’t start producing something other than procedure penalties, I’d rather see Slater and Price in there getting a shot.
I agree
If he is so smart and studies like crazy and runs precision routes and is a veteran Pro Bowler – we should have high expectations. If he makes progress each game (ie. quantity and quality catches), then we can’t get on him. But if the Pats are putting up big numbers weekly and he’s on the sideline or not catching passes by week 4, it’s time to move on. Whether that’s bench him or let him go or come up with another solution.
I don’t get why they can’t give him 5-6 set routes and let him run those. If Brady knows the route and Chad knows the route, they still have an advantage over the defense. The guy is fast and runs precise routes. Brady can give him the route at the line based on the coverage. If you run an offense that is so complex that only a select few can understand it and excel at it, maybe you should rethink the approach.
Randy Moss is a different story
he is the only guy who actually was really productive among that group in New England
Arizona Diamondbacks: 87-62
New England Patriots: 1-0
by freeland1787 on Sep 14, 2011 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Sure, those guys all left under different circumstances
I guess I just having the feeling that they are not afraid to “pull the trigger” on someone at anytime.
And I don’t mean to act cavalier about cutting Ocho. We did fine without him the other day. But given Branch’s durability issues, and the beatings that Welker takes over the middle, we are going to need this guy to step up.
I hope he does!
Brusci’s an idiot – the Pats knew what they were getting in Ocho – every one does – why is he or anyone else surprised at all by this? He’s only been doing it his whole career – the guy changed his last name for Pete’s sake.
He’s an entertainer and a player – duh
But doing what though? Tweeting crazy things? No! Having asinine remarks? No! Bruschi came out a little too tough i
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Life is about who makes it, not who makes it the fastest! Drive slow homie.
by PatNation85 on Sep 14, 2011 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Bruschi's smart, but emotionally too quick to react at times
He just added his perceptions of Ochocinco to the situation and went off on him after only hearing that simple tweet from the morning and being asked about what he thought – on air. He was set up, basically, and did exactly what the radio hosts had hoped.
Keep the faith!
I'm not saying Bruschi's analysis was correct
but that presence, that no nonsense, put-up-or-shut-up attitude is really great to have in the locker room. I’m not sure they have anyone putting that sort of pressure on teammates anymore.
I have a lot of faith that the team has no shortage of leadership in the lockerroom.
One of the themes of the last couple of drafts is that many of the players that BB has brought in have ‘leadership chops’. I.E. guys like McCourty were not just good players, but also team captains in college. High character.
Vince Wilfork – do you think he seems like a guy who puts up with nonsense? And he clearly has no trouble speaking his mind. Similarly with Mayo.
Bruschi was a great player and I agree that his leadership was important in the lockerroom. But just because he’s not on the team anymore doesn’t mean they have a void in that regard.
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Ocho said it himself.
He knows he has to put all that stuff behind him and start focusing on making himself a premier football player, not a premier NFL personality. I think Bruschi’s statements reflect exactly the attitude that dominated this team from 2001 to 2004 – until you start producing on the field, we don’t want to hear one, single word pass through your lips to a microphone (or through your fingers to a keyboard, as the case may be). Fair or not, it was that sort of singular focus on football, accompanied by a near-Draconian disdain for any real or perceived distraction, that made this team what it was earlier in the decade.
For example, if Brady were struggling this much to pick up a new system, do you think he would be tweeting at night, or doing commercials, or appearing on reality TV? If Rodney Harrison couldn’t pick up a new defensive scheme, do you think he’d be giving interviews? Talking trash to reporters? Ocho said he understood what it was going to take for him to be a successful part of this team, and he said he was willing to make the sacrifices, but I can’t help but wonder if he REALLY understood the intensity of the world he was walking into.
Don’t get me wrong – I’m rooting for the guy, and I love him as both a personality and an athlete, but I just can’t shake the feeling that he really didn’t know what he was getting himself into in New England, having spent his entire career with a completely dysfunctional organization in a city that doesn’t give half a crap about football.
the difference in that argument was
Brady was the guy on offense and Harrison was the guy on defense- Ochocinco is not the guy- he is one of many
Arizona Diamondbacks: 87-62
New England Patriots: 1-0
by freeland1787 on Sep 14, 2011 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Belichick's expectations for Brady
are the same as for Dan Gronkowski or Ryan Wendell. One’s place on the team and positional role have no bearing on the level of commitment expected by the coach and other teammates.
belichick's expectation is that his players should be able to do their job
rodney harrison and tom brady just had more important jobs
Arizona Diamondbacks: 87-62
New England Patriots: 1-0
by freeland1787 on Sep 14, 2011 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions
thats ur interpretation-
ochocinco’s job isn’t to catch 100 passes- just maybe 50-60 for 700 yds to take extra coverage off of welker, branch, and the TE’s
Arizona Diamondbacks: 87-62
New England Patriots: 1-0
by freeland1787 on Sep 14, 2011 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
this
Ocho’s job right now is to learn the system. If he fails to learn it in a timely manner according to Bill’s expectations, then he fails. But yours, mine or Mike Felger’s or anybody else’s expectations really matter on that.
Once he’s learned the system sufficiently to meet Bill’s expectation THEN his job will be to produce on the field – again, according to Bill’s expectations. And as freeland1787 indicates – in this system Bill’s expectations may not be the same as what external parties want.
Dan and Rob Gronkowski and Aaron Hernandez all play the same position – you can bet that Bill has very different expectations for each of them.
NBA Officiating - Corrupt? Incompetent? Which is worse? Does it matter? It sucks.
"don't" really matter matter on that.
darn typos …
NBA Officiating - Corrupt? Incompetent? Which is worse? Does it matter? It sucks.
On correction to nbradley07's post
Cincinnati’s fans do care a lot about football. I live in Dayton, just north, and the fans here are good. They are really fed up with Mike Brown. Everything you said about the organization is correct, however. They just recently upgrading their scouting department. Now they have two scouts. Seriously.
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by Hometown Gyro on Sep 14, 2011 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions
One correction*
Nothing quite like making a correction and then having a typo in it to make you feel like a moron. D’oh!
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by Hometown Gyro on Sep 14, 2011 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions
just keeps us humble : )
Keep the faith!
by Marima on Sep 14, 2011 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Eatin' that humble pie!
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by Hometown Gyro on Sep 15, 2011 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions
lmao
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Life is about who makes it, not who makes it the fastest! Drive slow homie.
I wonder
Setting aside the question of whether Bruschi is right or wrong about Ocho, I wonder to what extend he is just stating his opinion, or whether his opinion is informed by other things he’s been hearing out of the Pats’ locker room.
I wonder if this is the first indication we are seeing that there is some frustration with Ocho from within the Patriots’ organization.
"If you know how to cheat, start now." - Earl Weaver
Thats reading a little much into it. Like Bruschi
In GOD I TRUST>In BB i trust......faith where it belongs!!
Life is about who makes it, not who makes it the fastest! Drive slow homie.
Dunno...
It wouldn’t surprise me if Bill is using Tedy as an outside motivating factor.
"Perhaps it was the Noid who should have avoided me." Mayor Adam West
Where is it ... where is it .... oh, there it is!
Now I feel safe!
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Agree with this
There was plenty of venom in Ted’s comments. Enough to suggest that he knows a lot more about Chad than critics of his comments do. He has first-hand knowledge of the situation so as far as I’m concerned, his opinion is above reproach. Until proven otherwise, it should be assumed he is right.
Maybe that’s Chad’s rep or maybe Ted’s heard that he’s screwing around too much here. One of the other, I’m sure.
I think the reason for Ochocinco's invisibility
is more of an offensive scheme than his lack of chemistry- a lot of Patriots fans want Gronk, Hernandez, Welker, and Branch on the field at the same time
Arizona Diamondbacks: 87-62
New England Patriots: 1-0
which means a 2 WR-2 TE- RB set
therefore one of welker/branch/ochocinco is not on the field
Arizona Diamondbacks: 87-62
New England Patriots: 1-0
by freeland1787 on Sep 14, 2011 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions
What we as fans want, doesn't matter. The team puts the offensive unit that they feel are most potent/cohesive at all times.
And if that is without Ocho then so be it. But he will have his opportunity.
In GOD I TRUST>In BB i trust......faith where it belongs!!
Life is about who makes it, not who makes it the fastest! Drive slow homie.
by PatNation85 on Sep 14, 2011 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Surprised there isn't more talk about how great Dowling played.
Marshall has a deadly combo of size, physicality and speed. When he was on Marshall, Dowling outplayed him physically and didn’t let him get any separation. Pretty damn impressive for a first-year corner against a top-flight WR.
plenty of talent
but he needs to continue to shut down opposing receivers before getting recognition
Arizona Diamondbacks: 87-62
New England Patriots: 1-0
by freeland1787 on Sep 14, 2011 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions
personally I was impressed
I wasn’t too sure about seeing him covering Brandon Marshall in the end zone, but the kid did great – and without any pass interference calls either.
Keep the faith!
Having never seen him play before
I was real impressed to see him come out strong in his first game. Nice breakup in the endzone – not pretty, but effective. Great to have Bodden back too. Nice trio of cornerbacks now.
Interesting to see Arrington getting deployed creatively too, up on the line, and looked to be shadowing Bush a couple times.
Definitely a nice start for Ras-I
He played something like 70%of the snaps too. Of course, the Phins used a lot of wide receiver sets, but still for a guy who we barely saw in preseason, so far so good.
Unfortunately Barrrett hurt his thumb(cast), but don’t know how it will effect his playing time.
No sign of Molden on Monday night, I don’t think.
I saw Molden on the field during garbage time.
Unless I just saw his name on the punt team or something and am misremembering.
The media has already said the defense is the same old defense, so no surprise no one really got any praise on that
side of the ball.
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Life is about who makes it, not who makes it the fastest! Drive slow homie.
Bruschi talks out of both sides of his mouth
Bruschi was no where to be seen or heard when ESPN and NFL media spewing lies on 911 ten year anniversary but he acts principled when it comes to more trivial matters.
As far as Ocho’s play … he is with different team, different playbook, different QB, different responsibilities and only 6 weeks into transition plus he tends to draw coverage from best corner.
I'm confused at what you are referring to about the spewing lies thing.
Care to elaborate?
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by Comedic.Sans on Sep 15, 2011 4:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Awwwww, who hid the Jets post?
I had a great one that I’d spent an hour researching…
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Aren't you the guy that called for it to go away?
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Sep 14, 2011 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes, but not before I had a chance to rebut.
Oh well.
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I'll see if I can find it.
Sheeesh.
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Some people can learn from the mistakes of others, while some people need to pee on the electric fence themselves.
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Sep 14, 2011 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions
i want to see it
after that gift from Romo sunday night, I’d love to see some gloating Jets post
GFY
by TFBismywingman on Sep 14, 2011 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Nah it's fine.
I’ll have to save my comebacks to the multi-page word document so I can copy paste them in as necessary.
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As you wish.
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.
Some people can learn from the mistakes of others, while some people need to pee on the electric fence themselves.
My life has been a trivial pursuit. Trivia: where three roads meet.
by SlotMachinePlayer on Sep 14, 2011 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't encourage him,
You warthog faced buffoon.
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Me? Watch the Princess Bride?
Inconceivable!
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Sep 14, 2011 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions
You haven't seen it?
It was magical. Magical like a fresh mani and pedi while being served an peach martini. :)
In GOD I TRUST>In BB i trust......faith where it belongs!!
Life is about who makes it, not who makes it the fastest! Drive slow homie.
or maybe an MLT. A mutton, lettuce and tomatoe sandwich where the mutton is real lean....
I’ll have to watch it some … time.
Even if it costs a … dime.
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.
Some people can learn from the mistakes of others, while some people need to pee on the electric fence themselves.
My life has been a trivial pursuit. Trivia: where three roads meet.
by SlotMachinePlayer on Sep 14, 2011 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Ok you win.
In GOD I TRUST>In BB i trust......faith where it belongs!!
Life is about who makes it, not who makes it the fastest! Drive slow homie.
by PatNation85 on Sep 14, 2011 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions
So Chad tweets about TFBs awesome performance and Bruschi needs a headline?
Bruschi is as big a homer fan as he is an analyst, i like the guy but he’s not a captain or a player on this team anymore. you Bruschi knew what the playbook looked like? Was Ocho not running his routes correctly? He was targeted 3 times – 1 for a 14yd 1st down, 1 time a non PI call. and the third i can’t even recall.
The formation penalty can be attributed to nerves or lack of time in the system- if he does it consistently then Bruschi can call him out on that.
Bruschi just being a fan like all of us, he has high expectations for a bigh name receiver that we want to produce, instead of being an analyst that takes things in stride and launches salvos when a guy fails to consistently produce or continuosly makes mistakes.
GFY
His penalty was not a result of his learning of the system.
Its a rule no matter where you play, he should have known better.
someone had posted that he actually was lined up correctly
yet there was some confusion about where the tight end and the tackle were set that screwed up the play. However the refs called it on Ocho.
I forgot to tape the game, so i can’t check it out, but I’m sure, either way, it will be corrected.
People seem to forget the very high number of similar penalties around the league. Opening weekend always has these kind of penalties, as many new players get acclimated to playbooks and new systems and calls.
Imagine if Ocho was like Miles Austin the other night. Sure he had a td, but he ran the wrong route about 6 times also.
They said a tight end was covered up
but the tight end on that side was off the line of scrimmage on the replay I saw. (I dont’ have it recorded, so it was just from the quick replay they showed during the game).
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by Hometown Gyro on Sep 14, 2011 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I'll keep an eye out.
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by Comedic.Sans on Sep 15, 2011 4:06 AM EDT up reply actions
Okay, Richard Hill says...
that Gronk going in motion is what messed Chad up. I don’t know – it didn’t look like he set up on the line of scrimmage, but they do give a lot of leeway on the ends, so maybe a step back is still considered “on the line” for a TE. Either way, it was called, so the Patriots will have to address it.
True wealth is a shelf full of unread books.
by Hometown Gyro on Sep 15, 2011 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Another typo
I meant it looked like he set up OFF the line. Ugh.
True wealth is a shelf full of unread books.
by Hometown Gyro on Sep 15, 2011 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions
This is what I hate about Espn
everything is hyped up, they have to create controversy where there really isn’t any. I have always loved Teddy, but I wish he took a softer approach here. Maybe said, "If Ocho is still tweeting and doesn’t know the offense in a month and is still getting procedural penalties, then I’d have a problem.
I’d rather not be talking about this, so. i’m gonna go prepare for the Chargers.
Is anyone going to do an "Ask Pats Pulpit" thing on Bolts From the Blue?
I’m going to be out of town for a few days, or I would.
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Sep 14, 2011 3:15 PM EDT reply actions
lol
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.
Some people can learn from the mistakes of others, while some people need to pee on the electric fence themselves.
My life has been a trivial pursuit. Trivia: where three roads meet.
by SlotMachinePlayer on Sep 14, 2011 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Whatever happened to the Caption contests? I swear I won the last one we had.
And then they stopped.
I'm not drunk, I'm...... Okay, I'm drunk.
Change in social committee members.
They might start back up, who knows.
"Perhaps it was the Noid who should have avoided me." Mayor Adam West
I quit doing them because I got busy, then Ninja was doing them and stopped
They’re nice once in awhile, but too often and they’re tough to keep up with.
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.
Some people can learn from the mistakes of others, while some people need to pee on the electric fence themselves.
My life has been a trivial pursuit. Trivia: where three roads meet.
by SlotMachinePlayer on Sep 14, 2011 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions
This may be why they stopped!
I swear I won the last one we had.
In GOD I TRUST>In BB i trust......faith where it belongs!!
Life is about who makes it, not who makes it the fastest! Drive slow homie.
Ouch. I guess I don't know my limits.
I'm not drunk, I'm...... Okay, I'm drunk.
by wetfeet on Sep 14, 2011 7:45 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
How about we do a reverse caption contest?
Start with a caption and post funny pictures that it could be used for.
I'm not drunk, I'm...... Okay, I'm drunk.
sounds hard.
Unless they’re all cat related in some way.
"Perhaps it was the Noid who should have avoided me." Mayor Adam West
Now that I think about that.
That could be quite hard. It would have to be something short. And way to easy for horrible photos to be posted. It might devolve into a TWSS thread.
I'm not drunk, I'm...... Okay, I'm drunk.
I'll have to re-engage my mental telepathy
and then pick the next lottery numbers
GFY
by TFBismywingman on Sep 14, 2011 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Bruschi Blowback
Let’s see…If you have 53 Bruschi’s in the locker room you have: The right mindset to win multiple superbowls……If you have 53 Chad Ocho’s in your locker room you have: enough people for a new production of Riverdance!
am i the only one to think that heath evans might be the only calm person about it?
i agree with him- its that everyone else on the field in that game was more important
Arizona Diamondbacks: 87-62
New England Patriots: 1-0
Evans probably realises Ocho is meant to be a complementary piece, not the driving force.
"Perhaps it was the Noid who should have avoided me." Mayor Adam West
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