The Phinsider Perspective
By request, I am posting this to answer any questions you may have. I am excited about this game not only because the lockout is over or because it is Monday Night Football, but because I think the Patriots-Dolphins game holds the most mystery. New England has a new defensive system and Miami has a new offensive system. I think this game may be decided by how well these two units are prepared for each other and how they adjust to the other's new schemes.
Of course I am rooting for a Miami victory, but I wish the Patriots luck and let's hope for an exiciting, injury free game. Fire away with any questions you have. Hopefully any other Phinsider members will use this post to answer questions as well.
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Hey, just curious about Henne
I know a lot had been said about him this preseason, but in your opinion how has he looked? He has shown flashes at times, though he did struggle last season. Are we looking at a guy hungry to turn things around and shred our secondary Monday night? Obviously we would hope there has been improvement there since last season, but we have a tendency of making the Ryan Fitzpatrick and Matt Flynn’s of the world look like All-Stars…
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I liked the way Henne has progressed
He is definitely more of a leader now than he has ever been and he’s been enjoying the chance to call audibles. Brian Daboll, our new OC, has put a lot of faith in Henne. Under our previous OC, Henne had to stick to the plays even if he knew the defense was well prepared for it. He spoke of his frustration about the offense being limited earlier in the offseason. I’m not expecting him to make a huge leap (like GGN thinks Sanchez may take), but I do think Henne will be fine if he isn’t constantly under pressure.
I think he still may be forced into bad throws when he’s under pressure, but he’s done a good job of moving in the pocket and making the correct reads this preseason.
Sorry for the shameless jab to Sanchez, but it is tiring how much Jets fans talk him up…
- Attempting to debate with a person who has abandoned reason is like giving medicine to the dead.
- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.
Lol no complaints about that here, I'm pretty sick of it too
Thanks for the feedback. Hopefully we do get some pressure on Henne, since that’s been an area we’ve been needing improvement, but it’s certainly a question mark for the Pats. I believe your OC just came from Cleveland, who beat us up pretty convincingly last year, so that’s something to consider too.
Anyways, good luck to you guys. Obviously I’m rooting for my team but I hope it’s a good game and everyone stays healthy.
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I'm concerned about Haynesworth and Wilfork with the pass rush
Miami’s guards haven’t looked too solid yet and Mike Pouncey, our center, is young. Getting pressure on the QB from the interior is the worst type of pass rush a QB can face and right now that looks like it may be a strength of New England’s defense and the weakness of Miami’s OL.
- Attempting to debate with a person who has abandoned reason is like giving medicine to the dead.
- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.
We saw that ourselves a couple weeks ago against the Lions
Ndamukong Suh almost derailed our offense on his own.
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I think they PFT did a study of QBs under pressure...
Henne was actually near the top of that list last year… amazingly… Hopefully he will carry on that trend, because if Columbo keeps playing the way he is, he is going to be under a lot of pressure…. maybe that was the plan in bringing in Columbo…. hmmmm.
Prove everyone that said you weren't a franchise QB wrong, Henne. "WE WANT HENNE!!" GO PHINS!! What can I say I am a homer, I have come to terms with that and accepted it. I predict 10-6 and a wildcard berth. Jets got worse this year when they lost Ellis to the Patriots. The Patriots are going to be more solid on defense this year than they have in the past.
by Jason Scott_90 on Sep 9, 2011 8:25 AM EDT up reply actions
I thought it was about blitzing and not just pressure
but that Colombo line is funny $hit
"The first thing I do when I get out of bed and feel the jolt in my knees is think of Roy Winston. On the second step, my calcified Adam's apple starts bobbing, and I think of Carl Eller. A few more steps in the dark and it's Willie Lanier. By the time I get to the bathroom, I'm flashing back to Dick Butkus and Ray Nitschke. And when the light finally comes on, I just hope that somewhere in the darkness they're thinking of me, too" - Larry Csonka.
He played before my time but one of the toughest SOBs to ever play!
I'm guessing it was about blitzing
Interesting though. Wouldn’t have thought that. Might be something where Henne is more comfortable sticking to “the plan”, like hitting the hot route against a blitz, than he is sitting in the pocket with time where he may have a number of different options. Definitely something to watch for Monday night though.
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It's pretty surprising actually
Because under Dan Henning, Henne wasn’t even able to call the hot routes. It’s kind of a mystery as to why he fared better.
- Attempting to debate with a person who has abandoned reason is like giving medicine to the dead.
- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.
Being "robotic" was knock on Henne
"The first thing I do when I get out of bed and feel the jolt in my knees is think of Roy Winston. On the second step, my calcified Adam's apple starts bobbing, and I think of Carl Eller. A few more steps in the dark and it's Willie Lanier. By the time I get to the bathroom, I'm flashing back to Dick Butkus and Ray Nitschke. And when the light finally comes on, I just hope that somewhere in the darkness they're thinking of me, too" - Larry Csonka.
He played before my time but one of the toughest SOBs to ever play!
because people want emotion out of him.
Mercenaries never die. They just go to hell to regroup. - Unknown. I dont always make paradoxes, but when i do, i don't.- Brock Obama. Leading the fighter escort of SU-47s for the Lindley Bandwagon "pm striker king"- WZB.
Good, cheap FA upgrades out there: Gurode, E. Royster, L. Sheppard, J. KirkPatrick, K. O'Dowd, D. Thomas, D. Avery. Dolphins not pulling their weight: B. Sapp, J. Berger, J. Jerry, I. Alama-Francis, M. Columbo.
Not just for that reason, but that reason as well
"The first thing I do when I get out of bed and feel the jolt in my knees is think of Roy Winston. On the second step, my calcified Adam's apple starts bobbing, and I think of Carl Eller. A few more steps in the dark and it's Willie Lanier. By the time I get to the bathroom, I'm flashing back to Dick Butkus and Ray Nitschke. And when the light finally comes on, I just hope that somewhere in the darkness they're thinking of me, too" - Larry Csonka.
He played before my time but one of the toughest SOBs to ever play!
No, I think it was a coaching flaw.
Henning planned on having a dominant run O. This would mean 8 or 9 in the box and blitzing. So, what does he do? pretty much just prepare his QB for only the blitz. What happens? no runnning game and the D plays a lot of zone. Its the only thing I can think of to explain it.
Mercenaries never die. They just go to hell to regroup. - Unknown. I dont always make paradoxes, but when i do, i don't.- Brock Obama. Leading the fighter escort of SU-47s for the Lindley Bandwagon "pm striker king"- WZB.
Good, cheap FA upgrades out there: Gurode, E. Royster, L. Sheppard, J. KirkPatrick, K. O'Dowd, D. Thomas, D. Avery. Dolphins not pulling their weight: B. Sapp, J. Berger, J. Jerry, I. Alama-Francis, M. Columbo.
I am going to answer slightly differently than Finhead
Not because I disagree (except with one minor point) but to represent some of the variety of opinions we have over at our site.
Henne has looked better, of that there is no doubt. The real question is how much and whether it will manifest in a real game. Some people still strongly criticize him, and not just due to irrational hatred.
My opinion and observations are:
He certainly has more confidence, looks to have more control of the huddle, shows emotion yelling at guys who screw up, he has called audibles which he didn’t last season (due to Henning), he is lighter on his feet and had some positive scrambles for yards. Morover,( and my mild disagreement), he has managed pressure decently well. He had a few plays in the preseason where he shook off defenders Big Ben style to try and make plays down field (2 plays in particular, one a dropped pass, the other a big play to the TE). he has taken more shots downfield and connected on a couple of deep plays. While his accuracy is still not great, he had a few beautiful passes (like one drop to rookie Clyde Gates between defenders). His pre-snap reads seems to have improved in that you actually see him scanning the field and not giving away the play before the ball is even snapped.
On the other hand, to the extent one can judge these things, his post-snap reads don’t look so good (although others will debate this), You will still see him missing open receivers, keeping his eyes to one side of the field once the ball is snapped. He still doesn’t have great touch on most of his passes, which will limit some of the usefulness of Bush who has dropped balls (he should have caught but…) that were thrown a little too quickly. His ball placement is still too often off the mark as well.
I think, though, despite these conerns, he can play above average. If the playcalling is good and works to his strengths, I think we have talented receivers (Marshall and Bess obviously, Bush out of the backfield, and solid guy in Hartline. Gates, if he holds on to the bal and starts running better routesl, is a burner).
Just my two cents.
"The first thing I do when I get out of bed and feel the jolt in my knees is think of Roy Winston. On the second step, my calcified Adam's apple starts bobbing, and I think of Carl Eller. A few more steps in the dark and it's Willie Lanier. By the time I get to the bathroom, I'm flashing back to Dick Butkus and Ray Nitschke. And when the light finally comes on, I just hope that somewhere in the darkness they're thinking of me, too" - Larry Csonka.
He played before my time but one of the toughest SOBs to ever play!
Thanks, I appreciate the response
There’s no question you guys have a ton of weapons, and even more so going into this season with Mr. Reggae Bush. It’s definitely one way to make life easier on a QB. Once he gets comfortable Marshall is going to become an even bigger problem for defenses.
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Don't forget Clay...
We have heard good things about him, but we haven’t really seen much from him yet… But apparently he was good enough to warrant Sparano cutting Lousaka Polite. That has to say something right there.
Prove everyone that said you weren't a franchise QB wrong, Henne. "WE WANT HENNE!!" GO PHINS!! What can I say I am a homer, I have come to terms with that and accepted it. I predict 10-6 and a wildcard berth. Jets got worse this year when they lost Ellis to the Patriots. The Patriots are going to be more solid on defense this year than they have in the past.
by Jason Scott_90 on Sep 9, 2011 8:28 AM EDT up reply actions
Hopefully he actually sees playing time Monday night
right now he hasn’t been practicing due to the Hamstring. I think that might be why we have a few TEs brought in (since he is TE/FB).
"The first thing I do when I get out of bed and feel the jolt in my knees is think of Roy Winston. On the second step, my calcified Adam's apple starts bobbing, and I think of Carl Eller. A few more steps in the dark and it's Willie Lanier. By the time I get to the bathroom, I'm flashing back to Dick Butkus and Ray Nitschke. And when the light finally comes on, I just hope that somewhere in the darkness they're thinking of me, too" - Larry Csonka.
He played before my time but one of the toughest SOBs to ever play!
It's too early for Clay to create mismatches though
He still has a bit to learn and he has been recovering from an injury over the past week. He may make a difference next time Miami plays New England, but I don’t think he’ll be a factor on Monday.
- Attempting to debate with a person who has abandoned reason is like giving medicine to the dead.
- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.
I have been saying Henne's skill set projects to Big Ben for almost a year!
He certainly has more confidence, looks to have more control of the huddle, shows emotion yelling at guys who screw up, he has called audibles which he didn’t last season (due to Henning), he is lighter on his feet and had some positive scrambles for yards. Morover,( and my mild disagreement), he has managed pressure decently well. He had a few plays in the preseason where he shook off defenders Big Ben style to try and make plays down field (2 plays in particular, one a dropped pass, the other a big play to the TE). he has taken more shots downfield and connected on a couple of deep plays. While his accuracy is still not great, he had a few beautiful passes (like one drop to rookie Clyde Gates between defenders). His pre-snap reads seems to have improved in that you actually see him scanning the field and not giving away the play before the ball is even snapped.
Big arm, athletic, and big.
Mercenaries never die. They just go to hell to regroup. - Unknown. I dont always make paradoxes, but when i do, i don't.- Brock Obama. Leading the fighter escort of SU-47s for the Lindley Bandwagon "pm striker king"- WZB.
Good, cheap FA upgrades out there: Gurode, E. Royster, L. Sheppard, J. KirkPatrick, K. O'Dowd, D. Thomas, D. Avery. Dolphins not pulling their weight: B. Sapp, J. Berger, J. Jerry, I. Alama-Francis, M. Columbo.
The Patriots thrive by creating mismatches.
Other than Reggie Bush, who would the Dolphins biggest mismatch creator be?
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Brandon Marshall would have to be my choice
Miami looks like they may try to move their WRs around a little bit more this season and if they do, Marshall will be the one Miami looks to move around to create the best mismatches for them.
Miami also has a FB/TE role player with Charles Clay who can eventually cause mismatches with his athleticism in the backfield. He is a player that could be trouble in the middle of the field as a TE and his presence could create headaches for teams, especially when they’re already concerned about Bush. I don’t think Clay will be a factor this week though. He has a lot of growing to do and he’s been going through an injury over the past week. He may be a player to watch when Miami visits New England.
You won’t find many other mismatches on Miami’s offense. Hartline and Bess are fine WRs, but they’re not going to surprise you. They’ll succeed on finding soft spots in zones and running solid routes, but the defense won’t really have to be concerned about who they line up against them.
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- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.
I've always feared Marshall taking the top off the defense and shredding us for huge yards/touchdowns
He’s one hell of a receiver. I thought the touchdown catch he had in the first quarter against Tampa Bay was a thing of beauty. Catches over the defender, out maneuvers another, and then stiff arms his last opposition. What a beast.
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I'm hoping he looks more like the 2009 Marshall instead of the 2010 version.
I don’t think Miami called very good routes for him last year. He’s most dangerous with the ball in his hands, but they didn’t call many slants for him. He did too many curl patterns. I’d like to see Miami put him in motion more often and target him with quick passes so he can run with the ball in his hands.
- Attempting to debate with a person who has abandoned reason is like giving medicine to the dead.
- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.
I think what we are starting to see now is Henne is starting to trust him more...
Henne sees Marshall as covered last year and checks it down to the RB. This is the first time I really saw him make that throw and make it where only Marshall could catch the ball. Henne seems like he is starting to catch on to some of the nuiances that last year escaped him under the tutoring of Dan Henning.
Prove everyone that said you weren't a franchise QB wrong, Henne. "WE WANT HENNE!!" GO PHINS!! What can I say I am a homer, I have come to terms with that and accepted it. I predict 10-6 and a wildcard berth. Jets got worse this year when they lost Ellis to the Patriots. The Patriots are going to be more solid on defense this year than they have in the past.
by Jason Scott_90 on Sep 9, 2011 8:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Again, nice responce!
I would somewhat disagree though that Bess can create mismatches. He is a similar player to welker (though not as fast), and can be used in a similar type of role.
"The first thing I do when I get out of bed and feel the jolt in my knees is think of Roy Winston. On the second step, my calcified Adam's apple starts bobbing, and I think of Carl Eller. A few more steps in the dark and it's Willie Lanier. By the time I get to the bathroom, I'm flashing back to Dick Butkus and Ray Nitschke. And when the light finally comes on, I just hope that somewhere in the darkness they're thinking of me, too" - Larry Csonka.
He played before my time but one of the toughest SOBs to ever play!
I think some of these guys are selling Davone Bess a bit short here
This guy creates mismatches all over the place. In frustration, and fear, of Bess on third downs, teams would place their number one corner on him. He has burned Revis and Asomugha on a couple of plays (tape doesn’t lie). He is also capable of making ridiculous catches; recall that TD catch when the Pats blew the phins out in week 17. He can also be pretty dangerous when he does get the ball in his hands with his shifty quick moves. It may be easy to forget, but in the two games last year Bess had 11 receptions for 121 yards and 2 TDs against the Pats, not a bad little stat line.
The two guys that you really shouldn’t be worried about are Hartline and Fasano. They are both fairly sure handed, but unspectacular.
Reggie Bush and Brandon Marshall are the mismatch machines, and really don’t need introductions. Interestingly, we have seen Daniel Thomas making receptions out of the backfield for big gains all preseason, so it would be worth keeping an eye on him.
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Bess is one of the guys who will frustrate the hell out of me, in the nicest way possible
He’s a fine player, and he makes plays when I, as a Pats fan, really, really don’t want him to.
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He is alot like Welker in that regard
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by Patssuck456 on Sep 12, 2011 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Sorry, I think my phrasing was awkawrd
I was also saying that Bess can create mismatches (disagreeing with finhead). That’s why I compared him to Welker.
"The first thing I do when I get out of bed and feel the jolt in my knees is think of Roy Winston. On the second step, my calcified Adam's apple starts bobbing, and I think of Carl Eller. A few more steps in the dark and it's Willie Lanier. By the time I get to the bathroom, I'm flashing back to Dick Butkus and Ray Nitschke. And when the light finally comes on, I just hope that somewhere in the darkness they're thinking of me, too" - Larry Csonka.
He played before my time but one of the toughest SOBs to ever play!
I saw your comment
I understood what you meant. I was just saying that it is hard to look past BMarshall and RBush, but DBess is a matchup problem just like those guys.
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Here is my reasoning on not counting Bess as the mismatch
With Bess, he runs such good routes and he is such a great underneath WR, he is going to be able to make his grabs. To me, he’s similar to a Wes Welker type WR. You’re not going to necessarily beat him and you may not roll coverage toward his way. Instead, I think defenses mostly try to focus on covering the middle of the field, where Bess is most dangerous, and try to prevent the QB from having time and open passing lanes to hit Bess. You really either contain Bess by execution in defensive schemes or you don’t, but you don’t go into Sunday asking “How do we stop Bess and who do we need to put on him?”
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- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.
I see that, but I think I understood the question differently
When I think of the types of mismatches that teams like the pats create, I think primarily of guys like Welker and Bess. What do you do with them? You are already doubling Marshall or Randy Moss of old. Maybe CLyde Gates, or Hartline even is spreading the field. How do you stop that annoying little guy who can juke and pivot and and just get open for the first and some YAC?
"The first thing I do when I get out of bed and feel the jolt in my knees is think of Roy Winston. On the second step, my calcified Adam's apple starts bobbing, and I think of Carl Eller. A few more steps in the dark and it's Willie Lanier. By the time I get to the bathroom, I'm flashing back to Dick Butkus and Ray Nitschke. And when the light finally comes on, I just hope that somewhere in the darkness they're thinking of me, too" - Larry Csonka.
He played before my time but one of the toughest SOBs to ever play!
Charles Clay or Clyde Gates
We haven’t seen very much from Clay this preseason, but apparently Sparano saw enough of him in the preseason to cut Lousaka Polite. I am hoping he is something we have been keeping under wraps and we will see a heavy dose of him in the first game.
Also be looking out for Clyde Gates. The guy ran a 4.31 40 at the Combine with a pulled hamstring. He has been as advertised so far, he is constantly getting behind DBs. I was surprised at how well he has been able to get open without using his speed as we have been led to believe that he can only really run one route(9 route). While he has definitely shown that he can run the 9 route better than anyone we have had in Miami in a long time, including Ginn. Where Ginn was fast but not quick, Gates is fast and quick. He can also catch the ball which is a skill that escaped Ginn, and he hasn’t made a run for the sideline once during training camp. He dominated against lesser competition at Abilene Christian, and we are all hoping that he will be the steal of our draft.
Prove everyone that said you weren't a franchise QB wrong, Henne. "WE WANT HENNE!!" GO PHINS!! What can I say I am a homer, I have come to terms with that and accepted it. I predict 10-6 and a wildcard berth. Jets got worse this year when they lost Ellis to the Patriots. The Patriots are going to be more solid on defense this year than they have in the past.
by Jason Scott_90 on Sep 9, 2011 8:42 AM EDT up reply actions
If Clyde Gates gets behind the secondary there isnt a lot of people who can catch him.
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by Patssuck456 on Sep 12, 2011 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I was literally writing the exact question as JeffyB and then had to erase them all
Just adding up to what JeffyB asked, how much of his struggle last year can be attributed to Dan Henning? I saw comments like “F*** Henning” all over the place on web.
A lot.
Miami had problems with Henne and the OL last year too, but Henning was very stubborn. Henne didn’t have the opportunity to change the plays when they should have. The only option he had was that if he saw a blitz, he could put the offense in max protection. This helped make their offense more anemic than they already were. Play calling was always suspect too. He pulled Henne off the field when he was in a rhythm for Wildcat plays and called run plays, even WC plays, on a 3rd and 15.
I won’t say Henning was the only problem, but I think he was the largest of them.
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To give you an idea how bad Henning was
My son, who was playing high school football, and I were guessing plays before the snap of all the teams we watched. I got about 40% right on average.
With Henning I was over 60%, and I’m no Bill Belichick. It was really, What You See Is What You Got. Pathetic.
My son’s guesses improved from around 20% to 40%. He really liked watching Dolphins games because he liked his guesses to be right. LOL
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Sep 7, 2011 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, it was bad.
It was obvious to everyone that if you show blitz, Miami would go into max protect. They wouldn’t call a screen or a slant, but just keep the TEs and RBs in. I joke and say that Henning’s section of the passing plays for Miami’s playbook was about as advanced as the Ohio League’s playbook in 1906 when the pass was first legalized.
- Attempting to debate with a person who has abandoned reason is like giving medicine to the dead.
- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.
So true!
The only exceptions being some attempts at trickery that were surprising, to say the least.
Calling an end around reverse can be a nice change of pace, and can take the defense by surprise. You know though what is truly surprsing? When you call an end around reverse to Patrick Cobbs. No defense would ever suspect it, because he is just too slow to run it effectively. So, they were shocked I am sure, but got over it quick enough to tackle the guy for a loss.
Henning threw his players under the bus blaming execution, I am not sure he called plays that were appropriate the skills he had at his disposal.
"The first thing I do when I get out of bed and feel the jolt in my knees is think of Roy Winston. On the second step, my calcified Adam's apple starts bobbing, and I think of Carl Eller. A few more steps in the dark and it's Willie Lanier. By the time I get to the bathroom, I'm flashing back to Dick Butkus and Ray Nitschke. And when the light finally comes on, I just hope that somewhere in the darkness they're thinking of me, too" - Larry Csonka.
He played before my time but one of the toughest SOBs to ever play!
He might have seen the play on a matchbook somewhere and wanted to try it. Who knows?
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Sep 7, 2011 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Chances are...
Matchbooks are too modern for him. He probably saw scratch marks on his torch and thought it looked like a good passing route.
- Attempting to debate with a person who has abandoned reason is like giving medicine to the dead.
- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.
lmao
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Good, cheap FA upgrades out there: Gurode, E. Royster, L. Sheppard, J. KirkPatrick, K. O'Dowd, D. Thomas, D. Avery. Dolphins not pulling their weight: B. Sapp, J. Berger, J. Jerry, I. Alama-Francis, M. Columbo.
I think Henning thinks that the forward pass is a gimmick.
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by Patssuck456 on Sep 12, 2011 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions
There were reports....
that CBs would line up on Brandon Marshall and tell him what route he was running based on the formation. I can only imagine how much this would frustrate a guy as competitive as Marshall. It is really hard to fake a defender out when they know where you are going to end up.
I made a few comments last year that we seemed to run an end around in every single game, and not with any real plan, we gave it to guys like Brandon Marshall and Patrick Cobbs, neither of which would be able to outrun any defense on a play like that. With all the “trick-plays” we never once lined up in a formation andhad Marshall run 2 different routes. Had we done that, it would have kinda been like a “trick-play” but it would not have been nearly as risky… or in the backfield….
Prove everyone that said you weren't a franchise QB wrong, Henne. "WE WANT HENNE!!" GO PHINS!! What can I say I am a homer, I have come to terms with that and accepted it. I predict 10-6 and a wildcard berth. Jets got worse this year when they lost Ellis to the Patriots. The Patriots are going to be more solid on defense this year than they have in the past.
by Jason Scott_90 on Sep 9, 2011 8:54 AM EDT up reply actions
That's why I think Henning seemed to ignore the actual skills he had at his disposal
but, you have to admit, no one saw the patrick cobbs reverse coming. It was shocking to everyone. Stupid, but shocking.
"The first thing I do when I get out of bed and feel the jolt in my knees is think of Roy Winston. On the second step, my calcified Adam's apple starts bobbing, and I think of Carl Eller. A few more steps in the dark and it's Willie Lanier. By the time I get to the bathroom, I'm flashing back to Dick Butkus and Ray Nitschke. And when the light finally comes on, I just hope that somewhere in the darkness they're thinking of me, too" - Larry Csonka.
He played before my time but one of the toughest SOBs to ever play!
the CB in question was Cortland Finnegan
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Miss the misery.
Need a reason for a change.
Need a reason to explain.
So turn it on again.
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by Patssuck456 on Sep 12, 2011 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey guys, lets Rec this and send it to the top until Monday.
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Sep 7, 2011 6:27 PM EDT reply actions
yes, sir.
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by 808BostonSportsFan on Sep 8, 2011 2:19 AM EDT up reply actions
...and gals.
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Sep 8, 2011 8:46 AM EDT up reply actions
How has Mike Pouncey been?
What an NFL Debut he’s going to have, lining up against a mountain of a man in Vince Wilfork.
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Pouncey has been good actually
He definitely looks to be the franchise center for a long time. Physically, he can match up with well with NTs and he also has good athleticism to pull.
I won’t say he will handle Wilfork or Haynesworth because they can beat the best of centers in the NFL at times. He has a very tough task in dealing with both of them.
For Monday, my main concern about Pouncey isn’t about his physical talent, but about making the righ calls for the offensive line. The coaching staff said Pouncey has been doing good at making the correct calls, but there is a difference between training camp, preseason, and the regular season. Now comes the time when defenses are masking their schemes much more often.
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Well that's good.
Personally, I think his brother is over rated, and that Mike is already better than Maurkice. It would be excellent for the Dolphins if that was indeed true.
The Patriots center, old reliable, Dan Koppen, is getting to the end of the line, and really gets abused by the large, powerful Defensive Tackles and Nose Tackles (e.g. Suh in the third preseason game.) so next year we’ll probably start grooming a center under him (Michael Brewster 2012!) It’s one of the worst things when a team drafts a center that doesn’t work out well in the long term.
Keeping with the O-Line, how has the rest of your O-Line looked? Jake Long is an absolute stone wall, but what about everyone else? I’m not all too familiar with the O-Line minus Long, Pouncey, and your newly acquired Colombo. Are there any issues of depth/injury bugs?
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I am morew worried about the right side of the OL than I am about Pouncey
But Pouncey has played well in the preseason, he did have a couple of bad snaps in practice though.
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by Patssuck456 on Sep 12, 2011 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions
We have a few blemishes
Pouncey looks good and Incognito is fine at LG. Our left side will do well, but our right side may be a weakness. Vernon Carey made the adjustment from RT to RG because he has lost his mobility. Miami is hoping he can still use his strength to be successful while placing him in a position where mobility is not a priority. Colombo didn’t do well last year with Dallas and struggled in the preseason. Sparano is still pleased with the OL and doesn’t appear to be concerned with Carey or Colombo. I don’t think the right side will be as bad as some may think, but until they prove otherwise, that side is still a concern and a major question mark.
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- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.
THe only problem I have with Incognito is he can't pull well at the LG spot
I hope you are right about the right
"The first thing I do when I get out of bed and feel the jolt in my knees is think of Roy Winston. On the second step, my calcified Adam's apple starts bobbing, and I think of Carl Eller. A few more steps in the dark and it's Willie Lanier. By the time I get to the bathroom, I'm flashing back to Dick Butkus and Ray Nitschke. And when the light finally comes on, I just hope that somewhere in the darkness they're thinking of me, too" - Larry Csonka.
He played before my time but one of the toughest SOBs to ever play!
this^ Garner at LG and Incog at RG!
Of Henne lights it up we would still need:
WOLB (replacement for Wake)
FS (star)
SS (replacement for Bell)
LG (starter)
CB (nickel)
RT
TE (star)
Mercenaries never die. They just go to hell to regroup. - Unknown. I dont always make paradoxes, but when i do, i don't.- Brock Obama. Leading the fighter escort of SU-47s for the Lindley Bandwagon "pm striker king"- WZB.
Good, cheap FA upgrades out there: Gurode, E. Royster, L. Sheppard, J. KirkPatrick, K. O'Dowd, D. Thomas, D. Avery. Dolphins not pulling their weight: B. Sapp, J. Berger, J. Jerry, I. Alama-Francis, M. Columbo.
ranked in order of need
Mercenaries never die. They just go to hell to regroup. - Unknown. I dont always make paradoxes, but when i do, i don't.- Brock Obama. Leading the fighter escort of SU-47s for the Lindley Bandwagon "pm striker king"- WZB.
Good, cheap FA upgrades out there: Gurode, E. Royster, L. Sheppard, J. KirkPatrick, K. O'Dowd, D. Thomas, D. Avery. Dolphins not pulling their weight: B. Sapp, J. Berger, J. Jerry, I. Alama-Francis, M. Columbo.
Perhaps. This FO seems to think he is going to be our star FS.
He does play like a FS. Great closing speed, sure tackler, and great hands. He is just inexperienced, thus all the blown coverages. But his potential is why he’s starting. Although he plays like a FS, his body type and measureables are like a SS. This hampers him when he is over the top vs. a guy as fast as Hester. Hester just blew by Jones; even though Jones started to break so that he’d have a 10 yard cushion.
I’d rather have Clemons (AKA Mr. Reliable). He has great coverage skills, but doesn’t have the knack for the big play. He just lays the receiver out, causing an incompletion. He is also a big hitter, causing many fumbles at the right time last year. He is also insanely fast, making it almost impossible for you to get by him using pure speed. With all that said, he has hands of stone and I don’t think he will ever be an INT machine.
Clemons is better at the moment, but Jones has the potential to be something great. Thus Jones will start Monday. I don’t agree with it, but it is what will happen.
Mercenaries never die. They just go to hell to regroup. - Unknown. I dont always make paradoxes, but when i do, i don't.- Brock Obama. Leading the fighter escort of SU-47s for the Lindley Bandwagon "pm striker king"- WZB.
Good, cheap FA upgrades out there: Gurode, E. Royster, L. Sheppard, J. KirkPatrick, K. O'Dowd, D. Thomas, D. Avery. Dolphins not pulling their weight: B. Sapp, J. Berger, J. Jerry, I. Alama-Francis, M. Columbo.
Do you want to start the Ray Ray Armstrong bandwagon for 2012?
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Haha
I say draft Ray Ray Armstrong and Winston Guy Jr. ( fellow Kentucky boy), drop Culver and make room for 5 Ss. Winston is a fast SS that has above average hands. Ray Ray is a physical specimen that needs a DC like Nolan to tap his potential. We would have one of the most dominate Ds if two of our 4 young Ss can create a good tandem and Davis overcomes inconsitency problems. So that would bve our 1st and 4th
This would fix our weakest link on D, our Ss. Not that they are bad, just relative to the rest of the D they are.
Source: http://walterfootball.com/draft2012S.php
The guys I suggest for Nickel Corner are:
Nolan Carrol and Jimmy Wilson. or:
Cameron Chism and Greg McElroy. Both late rounders that could be steals. Chism has size issues, which aren’t a problem at Nickel and Mcelroy is raw. That would be a late pick.
At LG:
Rokevious Watkins and Brandon Washington. This would be a thrid
At RT:
Matt Reynolds and Ricky Wagner. Our second pick.
We could wait to draft a TE and WOLB until next year. One of the top pass rushers from this year will wait a year to come out. Also there are no good TEs in the next draft.
Mercenaries never die. They just go to hell to regroup. - Unknown. I dont always make paradoxes, but when i do, i don't.- Brock Obama. Leading the fighter escort of SU-47s for the Lindley Bandwagon "pm striker king"- WZB.
Good, cheap FA upgrades out there: Gurode, E. Royster, L. Sheppard, J. KirkPatrick, K. O'Dowd, D. Thomas, D. Avery. Dolphins not pulling their weight: B. Sapp, J. Berger, J. Jerry, I. Alama-Francis, M. Columbo.
LG:
Watkins is a OT/OG hybrid, but he will be best used as a LG at the NFL level. He is very athletic and is known as a mauler.
Washington is going to be a UM alumni and comes with a good pedigree. He was one of the main reasons that there was so many open holes for UM’s backs last year. Another year of dominance might rise his stock.
RT: Matt Reynolds has had a fantastic career at BYU. He is everything you want in a RT. He is an athletic pass blocker and his size allows him to pummel his opponents.
Ricky Wagner is big, strong and athletic. Proven to be a great road graver; he leaves something to be desired in pass protection. He is raw and we will see how he improves as he makes his transition to LT this season. “He projects to be the next in line to a legacy of great Wisconsin LTs”.
Mercenaries never die. They just go to hell to regroup. - Unknown. I dont always make paradoxes, but when i do, i don't.- Brock Obama. Leading the fighter escort of SU-47s for the Lindley Bandwagon "pm striker king"- WZB.
Good, cheap FA upgrades out there: Gurode, E. Royster, L. Sheppard, J. KirkPatrick, K. O'Dowd, D. Thomas, D. Avery. Dolphins not pulling their weight: B. Sapp, J. Berger, J. Jerry, I. Alama-Francis, M. Columbo.
Done!
Mercenaries never die. They just go to hell to regroup. - Unknown. I dont always make paradoxes, but when i do, i don't.- Brock Obama. Leading the fighter escort of SU-47s for the Lindley Bandwagon. Leader and Founder of the Ray Ray Armstrong for 2012 Bandwagon "pm striker king"- WZB.
Good, cheap FA upgrades out there: Gurode, E. Royster, L. Sheppard, J. KirkPatrick, K. O'Dowd, D. Thomas, D. Avery. Dolphins not pulling their weight: B. Sapp, J. Jerry, I. Alama-Francis, M. Columbo.
I think we can all enjoy this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=vexNQ-nzfDk
Mercenaries never die. They just go to hell to regroup. - Unknown. I dont always make paradoxes, but when i do, i don't.- Brock Obama. Leading the fighter escort of SU-47s for the Lindley Bandwagon. Leader and Founder of the Ray Ray Armstrong for 2012 Bandwagon "pm striker king"- WZB.
Good, cheap FA upgrades out there: Gurode, E. Royster, L. Sheppard, J. KirkPatrick, K. O'Dowd, D. Thomas, D. Avery. Dolphins not pulling their weight: B. Sapp, J. Jerry, I. Alama-Francis, M. Columbo.
by PotM on Sep 11, 2011 6:29 PM EDT reply actions 4 recs
Looks like Miami has found the quarterback they were looking for.
Many of the problems in this game, the first game of the season, are fixable, and Miami will have to fix them before they play Houston. The first step is to know about them and now they do.
It was an exciting game and I’m looking forward to the rematch. It ought to be great.
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Sep 13, 2011 11:10 AM EDT reply actions
Thanks guys for a classy conversation
I am still reall depressed but hopefully we bounce back next week.
Brady is awesome, as we all know and the way you used the hurry up offense and quick snapping the ball to catch our D in substitutions killed us. Now, how come your guys were not cramping left and right like our DBs?
As much as Henne looked good, and I think he answered a lot of questions, we were still 2-14 on 3rd downs, couldn’t punch it in when we needed to, negating a lot of those yards (some of which were also gained in garbage time).
I watched the game with a pats fan last night and I said to him “I hate Brady… but I love watching him play”
"The first thing I do when I get out of bed and feel the jolt in my knees is think of Roy Winston. On the second step, my calcified Adam's apple starts bobbing, and I think of Carl Eller. A few more steps in the dark and it's Willie Lanier. By the time I get to the bathroom, I'm flashing back to Dick Butkus and Ray Nitschke. And when the light finally comes on, I just hope that somewhere in the darkness they're thinking of me, too" - Larry Csonka.
He played before my time but one of the toughest SOBs to ever play!
Thanks.
Now, how come your guys were not cramping left and right like our DBs?
I think it’s called Gatorade. It was invented by a university in Florida. If you’re in the neighborhood….
That and Belichick probably did a little better job of conditioning them (he keeps them in hot water all the time).
The Dolphins are going to be fun to watch this year. A few kinks to work out, but who doesn’t?
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Sep 13, 2011 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions
You would think Tony Sparano and his staff might have heard of this magical Floridian substance
The real question is why the difference? If it had been the offense, I might get it. With a shortened off season plus the new system, they might have focused on planning and not conditioning. But the D?
If there wasn’t enough time for conditioning for any team, than either you guys have great conditioning coaches, or your players are in a culture that stresses being prepared and working hard. Both of those are factors that lead to the culture set by the guys at the top. So, I am a bit envious, and slightlly pissed.
I think things can turn out well for the phins and hopefully Sparano learns from them and becomes a better coach as a result.
"The first thing I do when I get out of bed and feel the jolt in my knees is think of Roy Winston. On the second step, my calcified Adam's apple starts bobbing, and I think of Carl Eller. A few more steps in the dark and it's Willie Lanier. By the time I get to the bathroom, I'm flashing back to Dick Butkus and Ray Nitschke. And when the light finally comes on, I just hope that somewhere in the darkness they're thinking of me, too" - Larry Csonka.
He played before my time but one of the toughest SOBs to ever play!
D is a little harder because it has to react, meanwhile the offense knows where it is going.
Good news is, your defense just took one step closer to being in condition then.
There’s always a bright side.
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Sep 13, 2011 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I understand that but when one D is conditioned well and the other isn't, there is no excuse
"The first thing I do when I get out of bed and feel the jolt in my knees is think of Roy Winston. On the second step, my calcified Adam's apple starts bobbing, and I think of Carl Eller. A few more steps in the dark and it's Willie Lanier. By the time I get to the bathroom, I'm flashing back to Dick Butkus and Ray Nitschke. And when the light finally comes on, I just hope that somewhere in the darkness they're thinking of me, too" - Larry Csonka.
He played before my time but one of the toughest SOBs to ever play!
our defense subbed in more often
and brady refused to let the dolphins do that at times just no huddle as much as possible.
That's something that some of us feared the Phins might do.
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Sep 13, 2011 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Now that is an interesting argument
"The first thing I do when I get out of bed and feel the jolt in my knees is think of Roy Winston. On the second step, my calcified Adam's apple starts bobbing, and I think of Carl Eller. A few more steps in the dark and it's Willie Lanier. By the time I get to the bathroom, I'm flashing back to Dick Butkus and Ray Nitschke. And when the light finally comes on, I just hope that somewhere in the darkness they're thinking of me, too" - Larry Csonka.
He played before my time but one of the toughest SOBs to ever play!
It works for the Pats
because Belichick tells the players they can’t get cramps and everyone knows the players will do anything Belichick tells them. It’s really that simple!
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by UtopianAverage on Sep 15, 2011 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions
nice game miami
ne was outstading but miami fought for 60 min
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