Patriots vs. Broncos: What Base Defense will the Pats Use?
In their week 15 victory over the Denver Broncos, the New England Patriots made a key adjustment near the end of the first quarter that helped them ultimately come back, then win in convincing fashion over Denver: They switched to the 3-4 base defense.
As the Pittsburgh Steelers showed us this past weekend, it isn't wise to stick eight or nine defenders in the box when defending Tim Tebow and the Broncos' offense as Tebow proved he could beat one-on-one press man coverage on his deep throws.
But that doesn't mean that, as a defense, you can't play in your base defense. In fact, the Patriots were in their base defense for most of the first three quarters of the Broncos game three weeks ago, and I expect them to play out of the base a lot this weekend.
That being said, what base defense will the Patriots deploy against the Broncos?
When Pro Bowl defensive end Andre Carter first went down with a season ending quadriceps injury against the Broncos three weeks ago, I predicted that the Patriots would switch to the 3-4. They did, but only for about three quarters of football. Against the Dolphins and Bills in the two subsequent weeks, the Patriots consistently worked out of the 4-3 base (although, in reality, they were in sub-packages the majority of the time).
Mark Anderson came in as a pass rusher in sub-packages, but the Patriots starting defensive line in the 4-3consisted of Brandon Deaderick and Shaun Ellis at the ends, and Kyle Love and Vince Wilfork at the defensive tackle spots.
So what base defense should the Patriots run on Saturday night against the Broncos?
Personally, I think that the Patriots should mix and match their fronts a bit, but trend a little bit more towards the 3-4. The thing is, the Patriots 4-3 isn't your traditional 4-3. Their defensive linemen have some 2-gap responsibility, which is why you usually don't see Mark Anderson on the field in the base defense.
Rob Ninkovich usually lines up outside of the defensive end in the 4-3, and will rush the passer about 40% of the time. In fact, Ninkovich, who started at both LOLB and ROLB in the Patriots' 3-4 in 2010, has rushed the passer at a more frequent rate this year in the 4-3 than he did as an outside linebacker in the 3-4 in 2010.
The benefits, in my opinion, of running the 3-4 against a team like the Broncos is that you get to have bigger defensive linemen on the field, while keeping a more pure pass rusher, such as Mark Anderson, on the field all the time. In a 3-4, the Patriots can run a "big" front of Vince Wilfork, Kyle Love, and Gerard Warren / Ron Brace. Rob Ninkovich is the LOLB and Mark Anderson the ROLB with Jerod Mayo the WILB and Brandon Spikes or Dane Fletcher the SILB. The Patriots have more run stuffing capability, but can also disguise their pass rush between Anderson and Ninkovich.
I made the point yesterday that the Patriots need to have Mark Anderson (their best pass rusher since Andre Carter went down for the year with a quadriceps injury in week 15) on the field as much as possible against the Broncos. His speed rush was too much for Ryan Clady to handle. If the Patriots run the 4-3, they will have a more difficult time stopping the Broncos running attack as the sole responsibility to set the edge will fall on Anderson if the Patriots do indeed want to keep him on the field.
I think the Patriots should be in attack mode at times, and I think, as we've seen this year, the 4-3 defense allows for the Patriots to do just that. Therefore, I propose that the Patriots best solution Saturday will be to mix and match the 4-3 and 3-4 as much as possible.
Lets not forget, Tim Tebow is a young quarterback who still has yet to start a full 16 games in the NFL. Throwing different schemes out there could serve to confuse Tebow. Of course, I think the Patriots will be in the sub-defense around half the time, but throwing in a steady dose of 3-4 could serve to help the Patriots.
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there isn't 12 men on the field so it isn't a penalty
Tedy Bruschi- "How do we feel about a victory?"
Team- "Aww Yeah!!!"
by freeland1787 on Jan 11, 2012 11:18 PM EST up reply actions
I wonder if
there has ever been a 13 men on the field penalty. That would either be really bad coaching or really bad cheating
by AverageJoeEveryman on Jan 12, 2012 10:27 AM EST up reply actions
You know if you're going to get the penalty anyway, might as well just clear the bench....
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.
Some people can learn from the mistakes of others, while some people need to pee on the electric fence themselves.
Belichick is looking for a new name for his boat: VI Rings sounds pretty good.
by SlotMachinePlayer on Jan 12, 2012 11:57 AM EST up reply actions
We're doomed.
The Broncos have to be riding high; I just don’t trust our DB’s to stay at home against playaction, and I don’t see Anderson having a repeat. Spikes is notoriously implusive and now Love is hurt. Ugh.
JohnHannahRules is a clueless homer with the screen name of a 10-year-old.
I like the other Alec better
But you make some great points.
Sincerely,
iDontLikeStuff
Don't worry
He’s with me.
"Every time I call it a game, you call it a business. Every time I call it a business, you call it a game."
"The longer they play, the more they lose. In the end, we get it all."
by JohnHannahRules on Jan 11, 2012 4:45 PM EST up reply actions
exactly
Tedy Bruschi- "How do we feel about a victory?"
Team- "Aww Yeah!!!"
by freeland1787 on Jan 11, 2012 5:15 PM EST up reply actions
He smells like an old sock, though.
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.
Some people can learn from the mistakes of others, while some people need to pee on the electric fence themselves.
Belichick is looking for a new name for his boat: VI Rings sounds pretty good.
by SlotMachinePlayer on Jan 11, 2012 5:32 PM EST up reply actions
love isn't hurt
non injury related reasons he missed practice
Tedy Bruschi- "How do we feel about a victory?"
Team- "Aww Yeah!!!"
by freeland1787 on Jan 11, 2012 5:15 PM EST up reply actions
DOOOOMED!!!
I’m tellin’ ya.
JohnHannahRules is a clueless homer with the screen name of a 10-year-old.
I can't wait until Saturday as we wallop over the Broncos on our way to the SB title as Tom gets his pinkie ring.
While many will be praying that Tebow does his best of impersonation of GOD on Saturday night, I will be watching Tom Brady do his impersonation of Goerge Washington a great american hero….
by Yardpenalty.com on Jan 11, 2012 6:34 PM EST reply actions
Tom Brady is a hero to New England fans
Tedy Bruschi- "How do we feel about a victory?"
Team- "Aww Yeah!!!"
by freeland1787 on Jan 11, 2012 8:32 PM EST up reply actions
I think you mean
the Greatest American Hero.
“Believe it or not, I’m walking on air. I never thought I could feel so free-e-e.
Flying away on a wing and a prayer.
Who could it be?
Believe it or not it’s just me.”
by AverageJoeEveryman on Jan 12, 2012 10:30 AM EST up reply actions
Loved that show.
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.
Some people can learn from the mistakes of others, while some people need to pee on the electric fence themselves.
Belichick is looking for a new name for his boat: VI Rings sounds pretty good.
by SlotMachinePlayer on Jan 12, 2012 11:57 AM EST up reply actions
The Pats should have differnet looks on the D-line
The most important thing for the Pats defense must do is contain Tebow. Make him pass the ball to move the chains. He will eventually make a mistake throwing the ball and turn it over. Contain, contain, contain Tebow and he will turn it over. If Tebow can run for 8, 10, 12 yards, it will be hard for the Pats defense to get off the field. I think the Pats will play a good game on both sides of the ball. 38-17 Pats.
I'd go a step further as saying 41-14
The Tebow run game will get contained after a couple series. I look for us to play an ever better game on defense than the 1st game. They will get a freebie at the end other than that they can’t afford FG attempts due to us getting situated quickly on O.
by Yardpenalty.com on Jan 11, 2012 7:12 PM EST up reply actions
A fast start on offense will force the broncos to play out of their element
so i predict about 37% base and 63% sub for the game with a margin of error to be +/- 3%
Tedy Bruschi- "How do we feel about a victory?"
Team- "Aww Yeah!!!"
I agree
if the Pats can come out and put up two quick TD’s it will force the Broncos to get away from the run. They will have to start to rely on Tebow’s arm. Though he did torch the secondary of the Steelers it was clear in tape it was because the Steelers were loading up on the run. A long as the Pats don’t do that they should win
These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."
Bill Belichick
by brrrrruuusccchiii54 on Jan 11, 2012 10:32 PM EST up reply actions
Whatever they do,
they need to control the line of scrimmage. I’m glad they got Spikes and Chung back like they got them, with an opportunity to get snaps vs. the Bills to work some rust off.
It is what it is
1-5-5
With Arrington as the one down lineman.
They won’t know what hit them.
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.
Some people can learn from the mistakes of others, while some people need to pee on the electric fence themselves.
Belichick is looking for a new name for his boat: VI Rings sounds pretty good.
by SlotMachinePlayer on Jan 11, 2012 11:16 PM EST reply actions
esp w/ wilfork playing free safety
Tedy Bruschi- "How do we feel about a victory?"
Team- "Aww Yeah!!!"
by freeland1787 on Jan 11, 2012 11:19 PM EST up reply actions
Stopping Tebow
Stopping Demaryius Thomas and Mc Gahee is the problem. Looking for Tebow’s QB draw near the goalline is important but without EricDecker the offensive threats are Thomas and Mc Gahee. Tebow can run around all day it doesn’t matter if Thomas is covered. The Tebow hype has disguised Denver’s real offensive talent.
You guys are all wrong
McD will argue to put the entire offense on the field as the defense. Gronk will run an inside route, colliding with Tebow just as he’s ready to let loose a 50 yarder. Tebow will be buried, shoulder deep, in Gillette Stadium. Brady will “Tebow” Tebow. The crowd will go wild. It will be epic.
Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle.
Still huffing glue, I see.
"Every time I call it a game, you call it a business. Every time I call it a business, you call it a game."
"The longer they play, the more they lose. In the end, we get it all."
by JohnHannahRules on Jan 12, 2012 12:43 PM EST up reply actions

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