New England Patriots Links 1/16/12 - Patriots' Playoff Win a Total Team Effort
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Bill Belichick addresses the media immediately following the Patriots 45-10 win.
I just can't say enough about the players today. They obviously did a great job. We had a good week in the bye week and I think we got a lot of things done. Once we found out who we were playing, I think these guys really did a good job of focusing on the target and they were obviously ready to go today. You have to give the players all the credit in the world. They stepped up and they made a lot of big plays throughout the game for 60 minutes. We got contributions from everybody. Great job on special teams. We had a lot of good field position. We played on a short filed, the offense got the ball in the end zone. We got some stops on defense, turned the ball over early. It was a good, solid team effort. We'll enjoy this one for a little while and then we'll find out who we have in the AFC Championship. But it's an honor to be in that game and it's been a lot of hard work this year, but I'm really happy for the players. I'm really excited for them. They deserved it. They've worked hard, they've put up with me, so they deserve this.
Tom Brady talks about the versatility of the tight ends and whether he took the game personally after all the hype around Tim Tebow.
Yeah, well I think they've been great assets to this offense along with the plays that Deion [Branch] made and the plays Wes [Welker] makes and the way Benny [BenJarvus Green-Ellis] runs it and the way that we can protect with the O-line and the way the defense plays. It's certainly not about one player, it's one position. Coach [Belichick] really challenged us last night to come out and play as a team, to play together and to play complementary football and I thought we did that.
...And, I think that everyone focused on one player and I think all week we were focused on the entire Denver Bronco team. We knew what kind of challenges they presented. Tim [Tebow] is a very good quarterback, they have a good defense, great rushing team, make some big plays in the pass game like they did against Pittsburgh. We knew the threats; we understood the danger of not playing our best game. I thought we came out and really responded well.
TEAM TALK
- Post Game Notes: Patriots vs. Broncos. Team and player records set, milestones reached and trends continued.
- Erik Scalavino says that finally, when it counted most, the Patriots put together a complete, 60-minute effort in all three phases.
- Post Game Pressers: Bill Belichick (12.41 min. video), Tom Brady (5.57 min. video), Deion Branch (7.58 min. video) and Vince Wilfork (5.16 min. video)
- Post Game Quotes: Patriots and Broncos.
- Patriots Today - Gronk sets franchise record. (1.34 min. video)
- Patriots Today - Patriots' playoff run continues. (3.28 min. video)
- Patriots Today - Defense chews up Tebow. (1.53 min. video)
- Locker Room Uncut - Reaction from the locker room. (3.27 min. video)
- Post Game Interviews: Rob Ninkovich (2.22 min.), Devin McCourty (4.02 min.) and Brian Waters (2.21 min.)
LOCAL LINKS
- Shalise Manza Young recaps the Patriots trampling over the overmatched Broncos.
- Ian Rapoport reports the Patriots answered all doubters, quickly, and with total domination.
- Ron Borges writes that Tom Brady looked like he could have 'gotten them by a battalion of Navy Seals if they were what stood between his team and Lucas Oil Stadium'.
- Mike Reiss offers his first impression of the Patriots' epic win at Gillette.
- Jackie MacMullen thinks Tom Brady was motivated by past playoff losses, not the buzz around Tebow.
- Kirk Minihane writes about how Tom Brady put an end to Tebowmania and all the hype.
- Mike Reiss goes behind the scenes to talk about Tom Brady's punt.
- Greg A. Bedard says that was one dominating defensive performance in the Patriots 45-10 victory over the Broncos.
- Karen Guregian reports on how the defense rose up to the occasion.
- Mike Petraglia says Shaun Ellis, Gerard Warren and Kyle Love led the feeding frenzy on Tim Tebow.
- Bob Ryan says the Patriots D was certainly up to the task of exposing the Denver Broncos.
- Tom E. Curran gives credit to the defense for pulling its weight.
- Ricky Doyle warns that this weekend proved that defense still matters, but ball security reigns supreme.
- Mike Petraglia talks up Rob Ninkovich, who owned Tim Tebow Saturday and was flying all over the field.
- Stevan Krasner highlights how Rob Ninkovich helped contain Tim Tebow and the Broncos' offense.
- Dan Shaughnessy calls Tom Brady and the Patriots offense simply unstoppable, against the Broncos.
- Michael Vega notes the tight ends completely baffled the Denver Broncos.
- Christopher Price points out when Aaron Hernandez has run the ball before.
- Steven Krasner spotlights Aaron Hernandez lining up in the backfield as the sole running back.
- Christopher Price tells us ten things we learned Saturday: Brady, Pats reward faithful with dominating win over Tebow, Broncos.
- Mike Reiss mentions how the Patriots fired up the home town crowd at Gillette Saturday night.
- Mike Reiss charts the offensive snaps played by skill-position players and offers his analysis.
- Mike Reiss looks at the positional groupings utilized by the Patriots and analyzes what it means.
- Mike Reiss looks at who played on multiple special teams units in Saturday's win.
- Christopher Price offers five early thoughts on the Patriots, the Ravens, Tom Brady, Terrell Suggs, Ed Reed and the AFC's most underrated rivalry.
- Karen Guregian doesn't see the Ravens as such a menacing matchup.
- Shalise Manza Young says there's plenty of bad blood between the Patriots and Ravens.
- Mike Reiss looks ahead to the AFC Conference Championship game against the Baltimore Ravens.
- Jeff Howe calls the Patriots-Ravens AFC Championship game a character-defining playoff rematch.
- Art Martone, Phil Perry & Jimmy Toscano put together a history of Patriots AFC Championship games.
- Michael Whitmer Patriots Notebook: Team put together a 60-minute game at Gillette; The Stevan Ridley fumble was the first time in two months that the Patriots have lost a fumble; Pats-Broncos hit ratings high; Chad Ochocinco finally has a playoff victory; Patriots will lose asst. coach George Godsey to Penn State.
- Ian Rapoport Patriots Notebook: Brian Waters and Shaun Ellis are relishing their post season experience and loving their decision to sign with the Pats; Ravens' Ed Reed warns "We're coming" to intimidate the Patriots; Tom Brady went out of his way to praise the home field crowd; Teammates were gushing about Tom Brady setting an NFL record Saturday night.
- Brandon Lawrence tells us what went right and what went wrong in NE's silencing of Denver.
- Mike Reiss offers his 3 up and 3 down for the Patriots.
- Mary Paoletti gives us the Best & Worst of Patriots 45, Broncos 10.
- Ron Borges grades the Patriots in his Divisional Round Report Card.
NATIONAL NEWS
- NFL Game Center: Denver Broncos at New England Patriots. Recap, stats, analysis and highlight videos.
- Peter King (SI) MMQB: Giants' stubbornness paid off in '04 megadeal that almost wasn't.
- Peter King (SI) Red-hot Brady, Patriots look better than ever in win over Broncos.
- Alex Marvez (Fox Sports) Brady turns in game for the ages.
- Report (ESPN Stats & Info) Patriots, Brady end Tebow's miracle run.
- Nate Davis (USA Today) Patriots beat Broncos 45-10, advance in playoffs.
- Jonathan Comey (Cold Hard Football Facts) 10 things we learned: 49ers, Patriots move on.
- Kerry Byrne (Cold Hard Football Facts) Tebow train hits final stop. "Hell hath no fury like a 3-time Super Bowl champion QB & head coach scorned."
- Mike Freeman (CBS Sports) Brady, Patriots put emphatic end to Tebow hype (for now).
- Matt Bowen (Nat'l Football Post) Breaking down the Divisional playoffs.
- Chris Burke (SI) Divisional grades: Broncos-Patriots.
- Toni Monkovic (NY Times) Why did Tom Brady punt late in the game?
- MJD (Yahoo! Sports) Patriots run the old 'Tom Brady punts, then everybody punches everybody' play.
- Michael David Smith (ProFootballTalk) Both Saturday NFL games draw big TV ratings.
- James Walker (ESPN) These Patriots have a sense of urgency.
- James Walker (ESPN) Quick take: Ravens at Patriots.
- Clark Judge (CBS Sports) Divisional Judgements: This just in -- defense still wins championships.
- Deion Sanders (NFL.com) Top 10 divisional playoff battles from this weekend. (2.43 min. video)
- Jeff Darlington (NFL.com) Freewheeling final four will produce a new champion.
- Ashley Fox (ESPN) Is the AFC on the wane?
- Kent Babb (Kansas City Star) Arrowhead anxiety: Turnover off the field causes concern. /Interesting.
VIEW FROM DENVER
- Mike Klis (Denver Post) Tom Brady leads Patriots' 45-10 rout of Broncos, Tim Tebow in NFL playoffs.
- Gray Caldwell (DenverBroncos.com) Season ends in Foxborough.
- AP Report (Boulder Daily Camera) Denver Broncos walloped by New England Patriots.
- Mark Kiszla (Denver Post) Pats show Broncos harsh reality.
- Kenny Legan (DenverBroncos.com) Notebook: 'Brady being Brady'.
- Woody Paige (Denver Post) Tim Tebow's horsepower tamed at finish line.
- Lindsay H. Jones (Denver Post) Denver defense hurting as Patriots pile up 509 yards.
- Dusty Saunders (Denver Post) Nantz gets clear look at Broncos' demise at hands of Brady, Patriots.
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Oh that Woody Paige
He still couldn’t bring himself to give credit to the Pats defense. Sure the Broncos had a couple of missed opportunities on offense, but for the most part they did their usual game plan. Stellar coaching and execution by the Pats D is what stopped them. If they keep this offense though, a lot more teams will probably figure out how to stop them next year. It’s the wildcat all over.
by Aluminum Penguin on Jan 16, 2012 10:37 AM EST reply actions
Plus we'll see a lot more teams trying to draft big tight ends
and replicate what the Patriots have been able to do with two of them.
Keep the faith!
Can I get a clarification?
I’m reading that arrowhead article about Pioli. Of course, spygate comes up. Now, help me if my recollection is wrong, but the Pats didn’t “secretly” film, right? They OPENLY filmed, but from the wrong location. Am I right about that?
"Every time I call it a game, you call it a business. Every time I call it a business, you call it a game."
"The longer they play, the more they lose. In the end, we get it all."
by JohnHannahRules on Jan 16, 2012 11:29 AM EST reply actions
Filmed form the wrong location gate
Doesn’t capture headlines.
If the Pats were the schelps of the league it wouldn’t be storyline either.
When your on top everyone grasps to pull you down
GFY
by TFBismywingman on Jan 16, 2012 11:41 AM EST up reply actions
It just chaps me that people say "secretly."
"Every time I call it a game, you call it a business. Every time I call it a business, you call it a game."
"The longer they play, the more they lose. In the end, we get it all."
by JohnHannahRules on Jan 16, 2012 12:10 PM EST up reply actions
That one ex-Pat guy said they did it secretly,
but then Belichick showed NFL video that showed the guy filming and he was wearing Patriots gear.
Didn’t look very stealthy to me.
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.
Some people can learn from the mistakes of others, while some people need to pee on the electric fence themselves.
Belichick is looking for a new name for his boat: VI Rings sounds pretty good.
by SlotMachinePlayer on Jan 16, 2012 12:29 PM EST up reply actions
If he had a hoodie on it could be considered stealthy
isn’t that what you see in all the artist rendered pictures of robery suspects
GFY
by TFBismywingman on Jan 16, 2012 12:34 PM EST up reply actions
It was cold and he was wearing a jacket and matching pants.
His face might have been partly covered though. Like the Lone Ranger.
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.
Some people can learn from the mistakes of others, while some people need to pee on the electric fence themselves.
Belichick is looking for a new name for his boat: VI Rings sounds pretty good.
by SlotMachinePlayer on Jan 16, 2012 12:48 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah,
There was even footage of the opposing coach waving to the camera.
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.
Some people can learn from the mistakes of others, while some people need to pee on the electric fence themselves.
Belichick is looking for a new name for his boat: VI Rings sounds pretty good.
by SlotMachinePlayer on Jan 16, 2012 12:27 PM EST up reply actions
...and smiling.
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.
Some people can learn from the mistakes of others, while some people need to pee on the electric fence themselves.
Belichick is looking for a new name for his boat: VI Rings sounds pretty good.
by SlotMachinePlayer on Jan 16, 2012 12:27 PM EST up reply actions
I only included it because of the implications
I mean, obviously it all comes from Bill Belichick, right? No need for sources there.
Pioli’s background was with the New England Patriots, a team known for its devotion to privacy and bending the rules.
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A common notion is that employees are constantly being watched. When they arrive and leave, where they’re going within the building and who they’re talking to. Indeed, the technology exists at the Chiefs’ offices, as it does in many corporate settings, to monitor phone calls and emails. But here, some staffers even hesitated before using their cell phones or speaking inside the building, because, like Haley, they suspected that conversations were monitored.
Kent Babb interviewed a lot of former employees who were clearly not happy with being let go, but it’s hard to say whether whether their feelings are based on the very different change in work environment from what they were used to, or not.
Keep the faith!
Just because they are paranoid, doesn't mean there is a basis for it in fact.
Of course, it doesn’t mean there isn’t either.
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.
Some people can learn from the mistakes of others, while some people need to pee on the electric fence themselves.
Belichick is looking for a new name for his boat: VI Rings sounds pretty good.
by SlotMachinePlayer on Jan 16, 2012 12:33 PM EST up reply actions
About Faulk
I’m a “facebook fan” of Ridley and here’s a couple posts of his this morning.
“Heading in to get this workout! This cold is no joke.. But its an awesome day!” ~10 AM
“And just like EVERY other week since I’ve been here K Faulk beat me to the weight room!”
That’s why the man’s still awesome despite his age. :)
kevin faulk will be active due to him making his career as a 3rd down back
he should end his career the way he made a living for the last 8 years
Tedy Bruschi- "How do we feel about a playoff victory?"
Team- "Aww Yeah!!!"
by freeland1787 on Jan 16, 2012 12:03 PM EST up reply actions
He's still a phenomenal blocker
picking up the blitz. I think Brady trusts him more than any other RB on the roster. That will be an asset against the Ravens, and again against the 49ers/Giants if (when, in my prediction) the Patriots beat the Ravens this week.
It matters not how strait the gate, nor charged with punishments the scroll:
I am the Master of my fate. I am the Captain of my soul.
by BigRussNovak on Jan 16, 2012 4:02 PM EST up reply actions
I can't believe Herndo and Gronk are still just 22.
Barring injury, these guys could last another 6-8 years? Crap. We need to find another QB!
"Every time I call it a game, you call it a business. Every time I call it a business, you call it a game."
"The longer they play, the more they lose. In the end, we get it all."
by JohnHannahRules on Jan 16, 2012 12:12 PM EST reply actions
Hope Mallett likes TEs!
I truly think they found their (next) guy at an absolute steal (first-round talent available in the third round).
Of course, I say that now, and they cut him in the offseason and draft another QB. I’ve always envisioned him as Brady’s heir apparent.
Can I Scream?
Might be tough keeping them though....
They’re going to be expensive when their rookie contracts run out.
true
but it’s not like we spend much money on any other skill position asides QB
"These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick
Feels like a problem...
Don’t the Pats have one of the lowest payrolls in the NFL? I wonder if Belichick is simply giving himself a challenge, seeing if he can win a Superbowl with defense made mostly of undrafted, practice-squad cast-offs from other teams. Otherwise, they could splurge and win the Superbowl every year.
Not to cause any panic attacks for anyone
but don’t forget that it won’t be THAT long before Brady’s contract will be coming off the books. You never know what will happen after that. Throw ontop of that the large increase in the salary cap figures for 2014 and the roster problems probably won’t seem so dire.
I don't think Bill is afraid of spending
he’s just really picky about who he wants. Also high paid free agents are tough, since it’s an insult to those already on team. He prefers to reward those who have done their time in the system.
So Bill’s money is more about rewarding team play then pulling in speculative talent.
"These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick
I agree with this
But I could also see the front office balking at spending what would appear to be top-flight money for two top-flight TEs. That might be too much money to spend on one position, even if Aaron Hernandez could pass off as a WR.
Can I Scream?
IMO Herndo is better than a wide receiver.
On an offensive chessboard, he is a queen.
He is a TE in that he can block some, even as a fullback, but he is a matchup nightmare (ala Dallas Clark) as a receiver, and can run the ball.
You can put him anywhere in the offense except QB and O-line. That’s his value. You can move him wherever the biggest mismatch is.
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.
Some people can learn from the mistakes of others, while some people need to pee on the electric fence themselves.
Belichick is looking for a new name for his boat: VI Rings sounds pretty good.
by SlotMachinePlayer on Jan 17, 2012 6:04 PM EST up reply actions
And Brady is the king...
Immobile but elusive (one step in any direction).
Myth
They’re close to the cap. They don’t spend all their money on the top options, though – they let big-name guys walk or trade them away (Ty Law, Lawyer Milloy, Richard Seymour, Deion Branch, Roosevelt Colvin, etc) and spend the cash by having depth on the mid-tier players.
They still spend enough. It’s just not top-heavy.
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Contributing Writer at PatsPulpit
by Comedic.Sans on Jan 17, 2012 11:37 PM EST up reply actions
As a Pats/Razorbacks fan I really hope Mallet works out myself.
by Paydirt on Jan 16, 2012 4:09 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
He could double
for a young Drew Bledsoe. Not sure if that’s an entirely good thing. Hopefully, he has at least a little more mobility than Bledsoe had in the pocket. I didn’t watch him much at Arkansas, but his arm strength is incredible.
Can I Scream?
As Brady and Manning have shown, it isn't necessarily 'mobility' that is needed
but rather, ‘good footwork’. Just that ‘awareness’ to know when to step one way or the other.
I think that is what separates the great ones like Brady and Manning. Bledsoe was great in almost every other way (what an arm!) but he didn’t have that same ability to sense and deal with the rush that those guys have shown.
Other QBs deal with the rush by running all over the place – but that takes you out of your game unless you are good throwing on the run – and most aren’t. Brady and Manning ‘deal with it’ with awareness and footwork that allows them to continue to use their classic step-up passing motion to make precise throws.
Mallet hopefully is watching and learning.
NBA Officiating - Corrupt? Incompetent? Which is worse? Does it matter? It sucks.
That's more what I was trying to say
Someone with better “pocket awareness” than Bledsoe, who seemed to shrivel up and surrender at the first sign of pass rush. Lord knows Brady is far from the fastest thing on two feet, but you’re right; his little steps in the pocket are masterful.
Can I Scream?
if mallett can maneuver the pocket 80% the efficiency brady can
kid’s gonna have a good career
Tedy Bruschi- "How do we feel about a playoff victory?"
Team- "Aww Yeah!!!"
by freeland1787 on Jan 16, 2012 11:36 PM EST up reply actions
This all assumes Mallet wants to stay
for 4-5 years until Brady retires. Even potentially 6 if he wants to go Brett Favre on us.
Shawn Johnson... she's a nice lady
But what a present to give that new QB.
Robo-Gronk and Herndo the magnificent with a little note:
This will may your transition to the NFL easier.
Patriots Staff
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.
Some people can learn from the mistakes of others, while some people need to pee on the electric fence themselves.
Belichick is looking for a new name for his boat: VI Rings sounds pretty good.
by SlotMachinePlayer on Jan 16, 2012 12:31 PM EST up reply actions
Unbelievable
I didn’t know how high the ceiling was for both of these guys when they were drafted last year. They were both good and promising last season, but little did I know they both had the ability to be elite talents and the focal point of this offense.
Can I Scream?
ryan mallett has been put in a very good position
learn from one of the all time greats and inherit some of the best weapons in the nfl
Tedy Bruschi- "How do we feel about a playoff victory?"
Team- "Aww Yeah!!!"
by freeland1787 on Jan 16, 2012 1:04 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah
I could see him taking a bit less money and being a little patient of it means he gets to take over this franchise…
"I don't know. I'm making this up as I go."
when brady's contract ends
mallett is a UFA
Tedy Bruschi- "How do we feel about a playoff victory?"
Team- "Aww Yeah!!!"
by freeland1787 on Jan 16, 2012 11:37 PM EST up reply actions
Watch out for those Saint fans
An angry New Orleans Saints fan shot two San Francisco 49ers fans in a restaurant parking lot Saturday evening shortly after his team lost the NFL divisional playoff game, police said.
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According to police, when the men were leaving Ayro met them in the parking lot and began shooting. Christopher Middleton was shot in the stomach and transported to the hospital in critical condition, WGCL reports. Adams suffered a minor wound to the head. He was treated at the scene and released.
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when meeting Saint fan …
Tip #1 – Always say “Go Saints” and “Brees is the best”
i don't think saints fans in general are that bad
but this is out of line
Tedy Bruschi- "How do we feel about a playoff victory?"
Team- "Aww Yeah!!!"
by freeland1787 on Jan 16, 2012 1:06 PM EST up reply actions
I'm sure there's some crazy Red Sox fan out there who'd do the something as terrible...
…in the right conditions.
it would require an obnoxious yankee fan in boston to do that
Tedy Bruschi- "How do we feel about a playoff victory?"
Team- "Aww Yeah!!!"
by freeland1787 on Jan 16, 2012 11:38 PM EST up reply actions
Number 1 ranked D
in the playoffs
"Thirty-seven points on the best defense in the league, suck my d–k" - Bill Belichick
The Ryan Brothers: Two brother's who never played a down as an NFL player, Yet feel the need to trash talk like they are in the Hall Of Fame
by BostonBeasts on Jan 16, 2012 1:19 PM EST via Android app reply actions 1 recs
in terms of scoring
Tedy Bruschi- "How do we feel about a playoff victory?"
Team- "Aww Yeah!!!"
by freeland1787 on Jan 16, 2012 2:20 PM EST up reply actions
overall
"Thirty-seven points on the best defense in the league, suck my d–k" - Bill Belichick
The Ryan Brothers: Two brother's who never played a down as an NFL player, Yet feel the need to trash talk like they are in the Hall Of Fame
by BostonBeasts on Jan 17, 2012 12:14 PM EST up reply actions
A lot of Gronk talk on ESPN today.
Colin Cowherd says he’s nothing special without Brady, Scott Van Pelt says he’s “like a drunken wheelbarrow going downhill,” which is to say completely unstoppable, and that guys don’t want to tackle him.
But I think what people are missing—particularly Colin—is that once all 6’7" of Gronk gets his hands on the ball is that he’s nearly impossible to bring down. It’s not that guys are afraid to tackle him, it’s that they can’t. From Laurinaitis in that preseason game to the Redskins, Broncos, et al., you need five defenders to tackle him.
That’s not something a QB or any level of intimidation gives you. Guy is just unreasonably strong for how high he can jump and how fast he can run.
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USG
the only thing brady does is put the pass in the right spot
after the catch is 99.9% gronk being gronk
Tedy Bruschi- "How do we feel about a playoff victory?"
Team- "Aww Yeah!!!"
by freeland1787 on Jan 16, 2012 1:45 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
If you are a defensive back, and you are lying on the ground, looking at the sky, seeing stars at 3 pm on a Sunday
you may have just been GRONKED!
NBA Officiating - Corrupt? Incompetent? Which is worse? Does it matter? It sucks.
3:15
Tedy Bruschi- "How do we feel about a playoff victory?"
Team- "Aww Yeah!!!"
by freeland1787 on Jan 16, 2012 2:20 PM EST up reply actions
massive moron
It's your thing, do what you wanna do, I can't tell you, who to sock it to. The Isley Brothers
by sweetjesusihatethejets on Jan 16, 2012 5:44 PM EST up reply actions
your insulting the term moron by putting it in the same sentence as cowherd
a moron is more intelligent than him about football
Tedy Bruschi- "How do we feel about a playoff victory?"
Team- "Aww Yeah!!!"
by freeland1787 on Jan 16, 2012 11:39 PM EST up reply actions
And none of his strength or height matters
If he can’t read coverages, get open consistently or have good hands. It wasn’t too long ago that the ‘experts’ declared that with the 2007 Patriots offense, a monkey could play quarterback and still win games. Now, with Brady as the QB he could make monkeys look good as receivers. They’re ridiculous for the most part.
Keep the faith!
by Marima on Jan 16, 2012 3:04 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
It has become the classic turnaround argument
First, they say that Belichick isn’t that great, that he sucked until he got Brady.
Then, looking at the season Cassell had those same nabobs turn right around and say, oh what a great system – anyone could win in that system.
Well which is it, dipshits?
"Every time I call it a game, you call it a business. Every time I call it a business, you call it a game."
"The longer they play, the more they lose. In the end, we get it all."
by JohnHannahRules on Jan 17, 2012 8:23 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
These occur all the time
On Saturday:
- Complain about Pats running up the score, even though they only scored 10 in the second half
- Complain about Brady punting it on 3rd down instead of going for it
Doesn’t really matter what the Pats do, people just like to whine.
Watching saints americas game 09
and they are showing a clip of ninkovich getting yelled at by sean payton for get a 15 yard penalty. " you think your worth 15 yards? " – payton " no im not " – rob nink….
"Thirty-seven points on the best defense in the league, suck my d–k" - Bill Belichick
The Ryan Brothers: Two brother's who never played a down as an NFL player, Yet feel the need to trash talk like they are in the Hall Of Fame
by BostonBeasts on Jan 16, 2012 1:54 PM EST via Android app reply actions
thank you for getting the personal foul back then
or we wouldn’t have you here rob
Tedy Bruschi- "How do we feel about a playoff victory?"
Team- "Aww Yeah!!!"
by freeland1787 on Jan 16, 2012 2:19 PM EST up reply actions
Is it just me...
or is Rob Parker really an idiot?
hes in love with rodgers
he doesnt know football and should be fired
"Thirty-seven points on the best defense in the league, suck my d–k" - Bill Belichick
The Ryan Brothers: Two brother's who never played a down as an NFL player, Yet feel the need to trash talk like they are in the Hall Of Fame
by BostonBeasts on Jan 16, 2012 3:52 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
i just heard him say
that this team is no better than they were in 2009. he also predicted the pats to go 9-7 this year.
by jamiesinnott on Jan 16, 2012 4:04 PM EST up reply actions
Gronk should have his own version Punk'd except
when he catches someone he yells GRONK and runs over them.
by Always Sunny Next Year on Jan 16, 2012 2:20 PM EST reply actions
hope the Refs have the laundry ready
for all the holding, and grabbing the Ravens secondary is going to do one Sunday.
And as a result ...
whine, complain, and toss those little yellow flags 15 yards into the end zone seats.
Can I Scream?
that guy is with the jets
Tedy Bruschi- "How do we feel about a playoff victory?"
Team- "Aww Yeah!!!"
by freeland1787 on Jan 16, 2012 11:40 PM EST up reply actions
That guy is
But ref-baiting is sort of the second sport in Baltimore.
"Every time I call it a game, you call it a business. Every time I call it a business, you call it a game."
"The longer they play, the more they lose. In the end, we get it all."
by JohnHannahRules on Jan 17, 2012 8:24 AM EST up reply actions
I hope they let the teams play.
Of course, penalties like facemasks, horsecollars, hits low/high to the quarterback, etc. should ALWAYS be called, but in a game like this, I think they should let both teams duke it out.
It matters not how strait the gate, nor charged with punishments the scroll:
I am the Master of my fate. I am the Captain of my soul.
by BigRussNovak on Jan 16, 2012 4:00 PM EST up reply actions
As long as both teams are allowed to get away with it, I don't mind.
Honestly, DBs can interfere with Gronk, Hernandez and Welker all they want, and they’re still going to get open from time to time. I don’t know that Baltimore’s receivers would fare as well against more physical play.
consistency is key
lets hope jim didn’t slip a 20 in the ref’s pockets
Tedy Bruschi- "How do we feel about a playoff victory?"
Team- "Aww Yeah!!!"
by freeland1787 on Jan 17, 2012 12:12 AM EST up reply actions
a lot of the media is talking about the revenge bowl
beating the ravens is first then whoever is next if the patriots achieve objective #1
Tedy Bruschi- "How do we feel about a playoff victory?"
Team- "Aww Yeah!!!"
If what they say about Pioli is true, he’s a creep, and I’m glad he’s gone
I work for an organisation that handles far more sensitive information and we sure as hell don’t treat staff like that
by quadruple option on Jan 17, 2012 1:47 AM EST reply actions
If
That article read like a whinge by a coach who just got fired, and all his little buddies. Pass.
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by Comedic.Sans on Jan 17, 2012 3:42 AM EST up reply actions
I agree with you here
Pioli is on the micromanaging side of things, but hotheaded Todd Haley is no prize. What could a disgruntled Haley do to poke back at Pioli but talk to the media about something spy-related like bugging offices. I know plenty of people who have their work emails checked, and the sites they go on while at work are always monitored. It’s a corporation thing, not a Scott Pioli thing.
Keep the faith!
This
When you’re at work, corporations tend to make sure you are actually working. It’s not some super secretive covert spy ops to listen in and make sure everyone loves and respects Big Brother. They just try and make sure you aren’t sitting there on facebook all day when you should be working.
by indy pats fan on Jan 17, 2012 10:53 AM EST up reply actions
Because that’s the same as recording phone calls ? Closing blinds? Possibly bugging rooms?
by quadruple option on Jan 17, 2012 11:51 AM EST up reply actions
It's the media.
As far as we know, all of that is made up or stretched so far that it might as well have been made up. Yes, there’s the possibility that it is like that, but more than likely it’s been made out to be WAY worse than it really is.
by indy pats fan on Jan 17, 2012 1:13 PM EST up reply actions
If Pioli is behind the bugging of offices, it's a criminal offense
and he could go to jail. Todd Haley should be careful with his accusations and have more to back it up than a hunch.
Keep the faith!
Well usually emails CAN be checked and sites CAN be monitored
That is, they are used if there is other evidence – they aren’t the first indicator
by quadruple option on Jan 17, 2012 11:51 AM EST up reply actions
NO politics
but, your point is correct that there is enough evidence – both corporate and governmental – of destroying emails and evidence.
Keep the faith!
sorry, i usually show restraint, but it was too easy
i’ll go do a lap
Plenty of coaches get fired, none of them have said the same things. Smoke == fire
by quadruple option on Jan 17, 2012 11:52 AM EST up reply actions
Todd Haley's firing was rather acrimonious, especially since they left the rest of his coaching staff in place
The fact Haley and Charlie Weis fell out so badly when Weis, Pioli and Crennel were old buddies poisoned the well.
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by Comedic.Sans on Jan 17, 2012 11:39 PM EST up reply actions
you do realize that BB prb does that too
Tedy Bruschi- "How do we feel about a playoff victory?"
Team- "Aww Yeah!!!"
by freeland1787 on Jan 17, 2012 10:44 AM EST up reply actions
If BB records people’s calls, I would have to think long and hard about supporting the Patriots. I hold some things more valuable than a sports team.
by quadruple option on Jan 17, 2012 11:52 AM EST up reply actions
i meant make sure people are doing their job in practice
Tedy Bruschi- "How do we feel about a playoff victory?"
Team- "Aww Yeah!!!"
by freeland1787 on Jan 17, 2012 1:32 PM EST up reply actions
In regards to Gronk and H-Bomb, am i the only one thinking there is no chance in hell
of us keeping both of them after their current contracts are up? Gronk may be the #1 TE on the team so he stays, but i highly doubt my fav TE Hernandez walks away from us, to another team throwing $$$ at him. I hope he stays but i highly doubt it. Then what?
Depth is great. Right up until you need it!!
We'll worry about that when it comes up. I'll channel my inner Belichick:
Right now we’re focusing on the Ravens. The have a lot of big playmakers over there on both sides of the ball….
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.
Some people can learn from the mistakes of others, while some people need to pee on the electric fence themselves.
Belichick is looking for a new name for his boat: VI Rings sounds pretty good.
by SlotMachinePlayer on Jan 17, 2012 2:47 PM EST up reply actions
Unfortunately, Hernandez might.go
As much as he’s a team player, he’s pretty much living in Gronkowski’s shadow. He’d be the prime TE on at least 25 other teams.
On the other hand, maybe Belichick can convince him to take slightly less money for a chance at all-time greatness (multiple championships and gaudy statistics with Brady). He’s also taken a liking to playing RB and NE is pretty much the only team that can do that right now.
You could argue
Hernandez wouldn’t be as effective as a team’s #1 TE. Sure, he’d still have the acrobatic catching ability and YAC advantage, but what has helped Hernandez break out in the second half of the season are teams keying in more on Gronkowski.
We’ll cross that bridge when we get to it, but I’d love the FO to devise a way to keep both these guys on the roster for a while.
Can I Scream?
I think with the way the offense is set up there is a shot we keep both
however, in order to do that it would be shifting money away from potential WRs. So if we keep both, expect a hodgepodge of over the hill vets or UFA/7th round picks at the WR position.
Why?
The Cardinals kept Boldin, Fitzgerald and Steve Breaston on the roster all at the same time.
If you consider that TEs get paid less than WRs, then you could potentially have Welker, Gronkowski and Hernandez on the roster. It’s even easier if you consider that Hernandez saves a roster spot (he’s a FB/H-back, too) and Gronkowski saves cash by being both a receiver and blocker, meaning they don’t need an Alge Crumpler-blocker on the roster.
Hernandez and Gronk do roles that would otherwise take 4 roster spots and 4 full-time players.
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by Comedic.Sans on Jan 17, 2012 11:43 PM EST up reply actions
They are worth dishing out the money for
Keeping both presents too rare of a problem for defense. If we get the right complementary pieces in place (Speedster) we could see an offense that’s near impossible to defend.
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