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Is it Sunday yet? I'm already giddy for the AFC Championship game, and I am not sure that I can really wait 6 more days. So, let's discuss the matchup. What does everyone see overall? Personally, I think the pats have a fantastic opportunity to get to the superbowl if they play their game. Conversely, if the game is an ugly slugfest, the Ravens could easily come out on top. Given their defensive prowess over the last decade, there's no reason to believe that they will not be able to at least slow down the pats attack. That said, given the fact that we follow the pats, i'd like to focus on them. Here are what I believe to be the most important aspects of the upcoming game for the Patriots to pull out a win.

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1. Neutralize Suggs. This is first and foremost. I don't think we all need to re-live the superbowl loss, or that last playoff loss to the Ravens. The o-line broke down and Brady took some massive hits. Clearly Suggs is the key, and i think that Light will be given help on most obvious passing downs to negate his effect. Suggs is an absolute beast, so I think neutralizing his effect will have a huge effect on the game. Suggs had 14 sacks, but the next highest sack number on the tema is 5 by Ngata.

2. Protect the interior of the line. The Ravens have massive tackles. Practically 1000 pounds on their 3 man d-line between Ngata, mount Cody, and Corey redding. I'm not sure wasting downs by trying to run between the tackles will be effective. I think the pats should try off tackle runs, and some sweeps to keep the defense honest. The Ravens are (and have always been) an extremely stout run defense. I was very surprised that Foster was able to run all over them, when they game planned to stop him. While watching the game, i noticed that Foster took advantage of his runs to the outside almost exclusively. It looked to me that the Ravens had difficulty setting the edge. I think a lot of this has to due with their lack of lateral quickness, as both their d-line and linebackers are more brute forces (similar to Brandon Spikes) than they are fast. I think a commitment to the off tackle running agme would do wonders for Brady's protection to keep the Ravens honest.

3. Tight Ends all day. I could be missing sometihng, but there is absolutely no one on the Ravens defense that I envision can match up with Gronk or Herndo. I mean, most teams don't have these players, but great defenses usually have a player or two that can at least limit or slow down a single player (i.e. Champ Bailey last week). The Ravens have a bunch of solid players, but not a single cover guy that could shut down. I guess it's possible that they could ask Ed Reed, but that would take him out of his playmaking ability - playing center field and reading the play. I don't think that will happen, which means I see Gronk and Herndo, one or the other, getting double teamed all day. They most certainly aren't going to be putting linebackers on them, because their linebackers aren't designed to play in coverage. Ray Lewis is their best cover linebacker and do you really think a 36 year old Lewis can single cover Gronk or Herndo? All the respect in the world for lewis, but i dont think so. And if they bring a corner inside to cover the tight ends, call the off tackle runs to spring the play outside.

4. Rice, Rice, Rice. The Ravens have decent receivers, but everyone knows Rice is the man. He is about as scary in the open field as any player in the league. The pats need to dominate the interior of the line, and be extremely disciplined in setting the edge. You saw a great job of that by Anderson/Ninko vs the Broncos. But one mistake with Rice can lead to an 80 yard touchdown. He is clearly the key, and I believe that the corners will see a lot of single coverage (with help over the top) due to the attention that we pay to Ray Rice. I think if we limit his explosive plays, the Ravens offense as a whole will be limited.

5. The big play. If you watched the Ravens/Texans game, it seemed like every drive they took a shot downfield. Smith is a burner, and their receivers will likely see a lot of single coverage. That said, the Ravnes offense looks relatively simply as i noticed Flacco throwing basically 3 routes - the go route, back shoulder fade, and a deep in route. That is pretty much their bread and butter on offense. I think Belichick will play safeties over the top to make Flacco work underneath. There's no way he's going to let the Ravens get cheap scores by going deep. Make average offenses sustain drives, and work for their points. Similar to the focus on Rice, i think the theme here is the big play. Belichick will be preaching that all week.

Sorry for the long post, but i'm just giddy about this game. I love this team. I love their fight and attitude. I have a feeling that they are on a mission and focused. I think we lose this game by making mental mistakes and turning the ball over. If we take care of the football and play smart on defense, I really don't think the Ravens can outscore the pats. They don't have anyone to guard Gronk and Herndo. They are going to have to commit double teams throughout the game, which will open up large areas of space for others.

Another observation that caught my eye is the Ravens' competition this year. People are dismissing the pats because of the fact that they "haven't beat a team with a winning record." Conversely, the Ravens have beaten 7 playoff teams (Steelers x2, Houston, Cincinatti x2, and SF). What do those teams have in common? Not a single elite offense. I think there's a big question mark on this Ravens defense as well if the best QB they played all year was Roethlisburger. I guess you could argue that Rivers (they lost to the Chargers) is a better QB, and perhaps you would be right because the Chargers put up 34 on the Ravens. The Ravens were also extremely mediocre on the road, losing to the Seahawks, Titans, Jags, and Chargers. This game is in Foxboro.

I think the pats have an advantage and a great chance to go to the Superbowl. What do you guys think?

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Totally agree on the competition aspect.

I posted it elsewhere, but the SD game is the closest thing to competition=NE that the ravens have faced all year.

GFY

by TFBismywingman on Jan 16, 2012 12:58 PM EST reply actions  

I think the Ravens may blitz a lot. Man coverage may or may not be their strong suit. But they’ll try to find a way to neutralize Brady. Not the other guys. And they will try to be physical. Should be a good game.

by Patriots12 on Jan 16, 2012 1:34 PM EST reply actions  

most definitely agree

the most daunting thing for our offense is the experience of the ravens D, which allows them to disguise and blitz. i think we’ll be seeing a whole lot of that, which is why i tihnk committing to a run game is incredibly important. we’re not going to win many 3rd and longs against this defense.

by jamiesinnott on Jan 16, 2012 1:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Hurry up offense and mixing up snap counts

I’ve been watching some of the Ravens games this year, and they are masterful at timing their blitzes if you give them time to set up and wait until the play clock is winding down to snap it. Suggs in particular is amazing at getting across the line as fast as humanly possible without being offsides. Luckily I think the hurry up can be a nice counter to that, as well as giving a few hard counts. Brady is possibly the best QB at screwing up defensive timing, and the hurry up also has the added advantage of tiring out their enormous DTs. Terrence Cody in particular has had some issues with his conditioning, so you may as well try to run him ragged.

by Aluminum Penguin on Jan 17, 2012 3:46 AM EST up reply actions  

Good post

I can’t help wondering if Bmore is gonna take the approach of knocking the snot out of our WRs and TEs whenever they catch the ball – basically make them not wanna play anymore. Much like Pats did to Rams in that Super Bowl. Thoughts.

by 4admen on Jan 16, 2012 6:54 PM EST reply actions  

Probably

They’ll take the physical approach, definitely, but I don’t see the Patriots receivers shying away from it either.

Keep the faith!

by Marima on Jan 16, 2012 7:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Exactly
The Patriots receivers aren’t going to shy away. These are tough guys. I will laugh if a 1 Raven by himself try to knock the snot out of Gronk! That dude needs 2 guys to cover him, and he can beat the coverage too. This guy has great hands too. He can catch balls in traffic with 2 guys on him.

by raymond.n.scott on Jan 18, 2012 10:55 PM EST up reply actions  

I didn't really watch the PIT or NYG game closely but

I’m sure BAL is capable of playing the same way to stifle the Pats offense. What gives you guys confidence that the Pats can have more success on BAL? Analysts cite the lack of a deep threat to stretch the field and maybe a lack of pure speed to separate on man-to-man coverage.

BAL will probably rush 4 most of the time, with some blitzes mixed in on key opportunities. At best they will double 2 of the 3 top threats, but if they mix it up, it will force Brady to pause and decipher the coverage. The big question is if the OL, which has played terribly in the last 3 playoff losses, can give Brady that time and if the 2nd WR can step up. Suggs has typically had good games against the OL.

I think the Ravens match-up well against the Pats, unfortunately. I’d give them a 55/45 edge.

The Pats offense is creative, and I also struggle to believe that even the Ravens can stop it. But I thought that in 2007 and 2010, only to be severely disappointed, and we’ve seen two more explosive offenses struggle and burn.

by tossin on Jan 17, 2012 1:52 AM EST reply actions  

A couple major differences...

1. Hernandez was still gimpy against PGH. Assuming he’s good to go this week (no concussion), he’ll be much better than he was against the Steelers.

2. Pittsburgh surprised NE this year by switching up their defensive strategy (i.e. playing man), something Lebeau has never done against them. I don’t see the Patriots being surprised by what the Ravens throw at them.

3. The Patriots offense is simply clicking better than it was mid-season. Of course that can all change very quickly, but I still think we’re better than we were.

by CanadianPatriotsFan on Jan 17, 2012 8:13 AM EST up reply actions  

I don’t think that the Ravens can cover all the Patriots weapons.
Welker, Hernandez, and Gronkowski require double team.
Who are they going to double team?

by raymond.n.scott on Jan 18, 2012 6:18 PM EST up reply actions  

They don't need to double-team everyone

I think they will try to double-team 2 of them at a time. But Brady will need time figure out who has the best matchup. That gives the Ravens a fighting chance to stall the Pats’ O by pressuring Brady into bad throws or sacking him.

by tossin on Jan 18, 2012 6:48 PM EST up reply actions  

I really doubt it.

I think that Ravens are going to worry about covering the receivers. Deion Branch did some damage against them.
This will open up the Patriots for a big rushing attack led by Green-Ellis.
They use Hernandez as running back who can block in the backfield.

I think the great versatility of the Tight Ends is the key for the Patriots winning.

I believe the Patriots Defense is much stronger with it being more healthy. They even stopped number 1 rated rushing attack that the Denver Broncos had. Spikes makes a big difference to the Patriots defense.

by raymond.n.scott on Jan 18, 2012 10:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Stopping Ray Rice will be key

and I believe the defense will be able to limit him effectively.

Keep the faith!

by Marima on Jan 19, 2012 8:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Ravens have only stopped Brady once

and that was against a bad 2009 Patriots team. That gives me confidence. Pats-Ravens are usually close, but if you also consider how poorly Baltimore has played on the road this year, I’m giving the edge to NE.

Keep the faith!

by Marima on Jan 17, 2012 8:40 AM EST up reply actions  

and according to the talking heads,

the ravens are going to have to play a lot of zone – they just dont have the personnel to match up man to man. if that’s the case, it’s all about protection. i agree a lot with aluminum penguin, i think the hurry up offense will be huge to throw off the ravens’ ability to blitz and their timing. if they are forced to play zone, they are screwed if they don’t get to brady. they don’t have the cover guys that the steelers or giants do.

by jamiesinnott on Jan 17, 2012 8:58 AM EST up reply actions  

If that is true

We are going to the SB. Playing zone on the patriots is just asking for Brady to carve you up. I think the Broncos played some zone on the pats, you saw what happened. Not only that it gives Brady Branch back as a legit fourth option. Branch burned the Ravens last time we played, he can damn well burn them again

Rex Ryan: "There’s no way that we’re looking to replace Mark Sanchez"
Patriots Nation: "Thank God"
Giants Fans: "FOUR MORE YEARS!! FOUR MORE YEARS!!"

by Chris Kole on Jan 17, 2012 5:42 PM EST up reply actions  

They only beat Brady once.

They’ve held the Pats down quite a bit. 23 last year in OT. 27 in 2007.

Overall, in his career against the Ravens Tom is 4-1, with a line of 104/186 for 1133 yards 6 tds and 6 ints for a passer rating of 71.4

Sure, he only had a great offense in the last two regular season meeting, but even then, his numbers weren’t great.

EVH+DLR=BFFs........ God I Hope So!!

by dmstorm22 on Jan 17, 2012 10:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Part of that is the Haloti Ngata effect.

Our starting center, Koppen, gets burned by large nose tackles.

I can’t say that Connolly or Wendell are any better. I do think that having both Mankins and Waters in to help with him will be an improvement.

Cody could be an issue to start, but if we run no huddle, he’ll be gasping for air in no time.

The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.
Some people can learn from the mistakes of others, while some people need to pee on the electric fence themselves.
Belichick is looking for a new name for his boat: VI Rings sounds pretty good.

by SlotMachinePlayer on Jan 18, 2012 12:51 PM EST up reply actions  

He was a monster in that regular season game last year.

Suggs has also done really well IIRC against the Pats, even going back to 2007.

EVH+DLR=BFFs........ God I Hope So!!

by dmstorm22 on Jan 18, 2012 6:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Don't know if he was on Light or Kaczur,

If it’s Kaczur, that would be no surprise.

Matt’s biggest problem is he’s getting old.

The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.
Some people can learn from the mistakes of others, while some people need to pee on the electric fence themselves.
Belichick is looking for a new name for his boat: VI Rings sounds pretty good.

by SlotMachinePlayer on Jan 18, 2012 7:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Wes Welker was not even playing in that game either due to torn ACL in the last game.
Randy Moss wasn’t that dependable when going across the middle. He can be easily knocked off his routes. Wes Welker is tougher. He is a great slot receiver. He is just a great receiver period. I like his toughness.

Deion Branch has a lot of playoff experience. He usually does well in big games. He and Tom have a weird connection. He could end up being the main key to winning against the Ravens.

How are the Ravens going to deal with Hernandez and Gronk. Gronk can even can passes during a double team. That dude has great hands. I was impressed with his diving touchdown catch in the endzone last week. Both Tight Ends are a cover mismatch.

by raymond.n.scott on Jan 18, 2012 6:24 PM EST up reply actions  

If you could grade the momentum we had against the Steelers/Giants

it would be something like 40/50 out of 100.. now its something like 90/100 out of 100.

Oh my god a floor zombie! Oh wait, thats you
- Toby Turner

by New Century Silver on Jan 17, 2012 6:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Pittsburgh game

Their best defense was actually Pittsburgh’s offense. For the entire game they had long, sustained drives that kept the ball out of Brady’s hands. They didn’t actually punt until there was less than a minute left in the game.

The O-Line and Brady himself were also a bit off at times, but it seemed like the crowd had a lot to do with it. There were a couple of key plays where they either had a false start or poor blocking, and the no-huddle was not easy with the crowd going nuts.

Pitt did have a couple of plays where their press coverage forced Brady to throw it away, but overall I’d say that the lack of points was more due to a lack of execution by the Pats. And that’s something that they’ve tightened up considerably since that early-middle portion of the season.

by Aluminum Penguin on Jan 17, 2012 10:34 PM EST up reply actions  

As someone who pretty much sees the glass as always being half empty,

I just don’t see how we lose this game. Could they hold us to less then 40? Maybe. Could they hold us to under 30? Possible. But, considering how our D played last week, I can’t see us allowing them to get more then 20-25.

I’m not saying we’ll win – Really, of the entire playoffs, I’d say this is the most losable game for us. My gut tells me we’ll lose. My brain tells me we win 45-3. Not sure what to make of that.

Oh my god a floor zombie! Oh wait, thats you
- Toby Turner

by New Century Silver on Jan 17, 2012 6:42 PM EST reply actions  

I think the Giants are the most losable game actually...

I don’t know, we must’ve felt like this last year and look how that turned out.

by tossin on Jan 17, 2012 7:19 PM EST up reply actions  

all the teams left have flaws...

either team could win either game.

It's your thing, do what you wanna do, I can't tell you, who to sock it to. The Isley Brothers

by sweetjesusihatethejets on Jan 17, 2012 7:33 PM EST reply actions  

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