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New England Patriots Links 1/27/12 - Wilfork: 'These Guys Have Every Passion, Everything You Need in a Football Player'

Aaron Hernandez on being at practice without Rob Gronkowski:

"I'd say it's a little boring, but he'll be back out there soon.

Sterling Moore on what it's like to cope with receivers like Hakeem Nicks, Mario Manningham and Victor Cruz when they're all healthy:

"It's a challenge. It's a big challenge but that's what we want. Going into this game, we want them all to be healthy; we want them all to be at their best. That's just the type of game we want. It's going to be a struggle but that's what the films are for. We're going to have to do a great job on the film and go out there and play them tough."

Vince Wilfork on the improvement the defense has made, and what it says about the team.

It lets me know these guys listen - through the coaches, through the guys, the veterans who have been around the game for awhile. It's not like we talk to them every day about certain stuff. No, they get it. They knew how important it was for us to get better as a team and what we needed to do to get better as a team. We made those changes, we made those progresses and we moved forward. Like I said, it's a special bunch. At the end of the day, it's going to be a special team. I think everybody in this locker room, they love this game, they love one another, they have the passion. That's one thing to have a football player not have the passion for what they love and what they do but I can honestly tell you that these guys have every passion, everything that you need in a football player, they have and they love it.

Bill Belichick on "one of his favorite topics - injuries".

That would actually be number one. If you had to rank them, I'd move that up there as number one.

How would you describe the progress of Rob Gronkowski?

Good, good.

How optimistic are you that Sebastian Vollmer will be able to go?

We'll see how it goes. He practiced some last week, he wasn't able to play. We'll practice this week and we'll see if he's ready this week. The [crystal] ball is kind of clouding up, I can't see it clearly.

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Execellent work Marima.

Reading what Ocho has to say makes me think he is just a defeated man. Maybe his antics, craziness was what fired him up to excel on game day. Any way, I hope he is active for the superbowl. I honestly felt he could have helped out in Sunday’s win over the Ravens, even though we ran mostly no-huddle. As much I love Deion Branch, he always seems to disappear when we need him the most.

Here’s to hoping Ocho’s lack of production this year is a big evil scheme of Hoodie’s to unleash the beast in the Super Bowl

by BAMF. on Jan 27, 2012 11:12 AM EST reply actions  

Keep in mind that Deion has been dealing with a knee injury

but you’re right that he isn’t the same elusive receiver of years ago. I’m hoping Ocho is involved in the Super Bowl. He’s worked hard and has been uncomplaining. We’ll see.

Thanks for the kind words. The only thing distasteful about these posts is having to slog through the NY newspapers. Ugh. Their receivers can’t be stopped, their defense will make Brady rattled and afraid (although this article here quotes players who directly counter those claims) , etc… So unnecessary.

"Some guys don’t get rattled," [Justin] Tuck said. "Even in that Super Bowl at the end of the game, he’s getting lit up and he’s still throwing passes for 70 yards down field. He still led their team down the drive before that to what seemed like a game-winning touchdown at that point.
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"I dare say we hit him almost 30 times in that game, so if that didn’t rattle him, I’m not sure if we can rattle him. But more than anything, it’s about just not giving him the time to complete passes like that."

Keep the faith!

by Marima on Jan 27, 2012 11:27 AM EST up reply actions  

I always have found it silly when 'analysts' claim that 'the book' on defending the Patriots is to get pressure on Brady

as if that wasn’t ‘the book’ on stopping ALL passing games!

NBA Officiating - Corrupt? Incompetent? Which is worse? Does it matter? It sucks.

by mmmmm on Jan 27, 2012 11:33 AM EST up reply actions  

and ironically

Brady is one of the best passers on blitzing downs.

"These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

by Mainiac on Jan 27, 2012 12:45 PM EST up reply actions  

If it makes you feel any better

these are the same writers that wrote how we have no receiving core when we let Steve Smith and Kevin Boss go, how the defense is a sieve and Fewell needs to go when we were at the bottom of all stat categories during the regular season, and how Coughlin’s words are falling on deaf ears and he’s past his time and needs to go when we were 7-7.

So, consider the source and take it with a grain of salt.

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by wilddre22 on Jan 28, 2012 11:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Belichick...

may be an evil genius, but I have a hard time believing he saved Ocho just for the Super Bowl. I think it’s much more likely that the situation is exactly as it appears: Ocho has not been able to adjust to New England’s offense and hasn’t established any real chemistry with Tom Brady. He has also lost a step compared to his prime. I don’t buy into the idea that keeping his antics in check has held him back on the field either.

That said, he could still end up making a useful contribution in the Super Bowl, just as he occasionally has throughout the season. I wouldn’t be shocked if he made a play or two.

"If you know how to cheat, start now." - Earl Weaver

by rebop on Jan 27, 2012 11:46 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Some blame should go to O'Brien

All you heard about 85 his career was he runs precise routes. OK, so he can’t pick up the complex offense. What has BoB learned from Belichick? Nothing. Belichick changes his schemes to fit his personnel. Why can’t they give Chad a route tree that has 5 routes. Brady tells him which one to run before the snap every play. No guessing, just let him run his crisp routes and if he’s open, he’s open. Let the other receivers read Brady’s mind. They could have been way more successful that way. In fact, the best thing to do would be make all Chad’s routes deep except for 1 comeback. A couple deep passes and the safety now has to be on his side allowing the other guys more room underneath or the middle. It just makes no sense to me that you force all these guys to do something that only Branch can comprehend.

by iLikeStuff on Jan 27, 2012 11:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Uh...

It seems like only Ocho doesn’t get it, though.

Go Pats. Celtics. Red Sox. Bruins.
Brady. Pierce. Thomas. How you doing?

by Tai on Jan 27, 2012 12:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Who do you take off the field so that Chad can play? Everyone else knows where they are supposed to be. Chad does not.

by Patriots12 on Jan 28, 2012 9:54 PM EST up reply actions  

It will be interesting to see what next year brings

BB was historically complimentary of 85; they had a good deal of professional respect before he came here. BB doesn’t fluff guys for the hell of it, so he must have been seeing something on film and on the field that made him think that way. Ochocinco is reportedly a smart guy and a guy with football smarts. If he’s not picking it up it could simply be that for the last decade, he’s never had to “read on the run” before, or really understand the complimentary parts of the passing game from more than one position. Ends in our offense don’t just need to know the plays on the outside, as they’ll often be called to line up in the slot, etc.

He may have lost a step, but I don’t think he’s lost so many that he’s not a useful athlete. It will be interesting to see if he blossoms next year or is cut — with 11 years in the league, he isn’t out of the range of “prime” for a wideout who stays in shape.

"Every time I call it a game, you call it a business. Every time I call it a business, you call it a game."

"The longer they play, the more they lose. In the end, we get it all."

by JohnHannahRules on Jan 27, 2012 12:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Gronk's Dad...

says he has a high ankle sprain.

"If you know how to cheat, start now." - Earl Weaver

by rebop on Jan 27, 2012 11:42 AM EST reply actions  

Misleading headline...

The headline on the Welker story should read “Welker Engaged To Miss Hooters International 2005,” calling her a “model” doesn’t really capture the essence of the story.

"If you know how to cheat, start now." - Earl Weaver

by rebop on Jan 27, 2012 11:51 AM EST reply actions  

To me it just seems Ocho is done.

Where is his fire? His passion? This is his first Super Bowl and he is “humbled” by it. Dammit dude this is the SUPER BOWL, the biggest sporting event of the year. YOU are lucky enough to be part of this amazing team, now show us you want it, deserve it.

If I were Ocho I would be busting my ass (and would have been a long time ago) to get on the field. It doesn’t matter what I would need do. Sleep over at Tommy’s place if you need to, fall asleep watching film, reading the playbook, talking with Tom.

by BAMF. on Jan 27, 2012 12:04 PM EST reply actions  

Yea that was interesting to me

It almost suggests he already knows he’s not playing.

Go Pats. Celtics. Red Sox. Bruins.
Brady. Pierce. Thomas. How you doing?

by Tai on Jan 27, 2012 12:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Well its hard to not think your gonna play

If your never in the game. i think next year after a full offseason with brady, he will have a good season.

"Thirty-seven points on the best defense in the league, suck my d–k" - Bill Belichick

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by BostonBeasts on Jan 27, 2012 1:43 PM EST up reply actions  

His father died a week ago

I’d wager that might play a bit on his mind and his motivation.

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by Comedic.Sans on Jan 27, 2012 7:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Totally agree-

I lost my dad in late November 2007- it was 2008 before my head was screwed on completely straight. My heart goes out to him.

"Valdez can pitch, Lee can hit... and pigs can fly."

by dannijd on Jan 27, 2012 10:51 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Now they are comparing Eli to Tom !

There isn’t one statistical category Eli Manning had this season that says he is better than Tom Brady. (Yards, TDs, Interceptions, fumbles, QB Rating)
Sure he has some 4th quarter comebacks, but only because he was awful the first 3 quarters. I cannot wait until he gets put back into his place.

"Thirty-seven points on the best defense in the league, suck my d–k" - Bill Belichick

'You are banned from Gang Green Nation'
"You can browse the blog, but you can't participate."

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by BostonBeasts on Jan 27, 2012 1:54 PM EST reply actions  

thats pretty much every stat

there is no comparison between those 2 and it’ll show sunday

Tedy Bruschi- "How do we feel about being AFC Champs?"
Team- "Aww Yeah!!!"

by freeland1787 on Jan 27, 2012 3:16 PM EST up reply actions  

^ This

The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.
Some people can learn from the mistakes of others, while some people need to pee on the electric fence themselves.
Belichick is looking for a new name for his boat: VI Rings sounds pretty good.

by SlotMachinePlayer on Jan 27, 2012 3:57 PM EST up reply actions  

a thousand times, this^

NBA Officiating - Corrupt? Incompetent? Which is worse? Does it matter? It sucks.

by mmmmm on Jan 27, 2012 4:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Over 9000x this^^^

Tedy Bruschi- "How do we feel about being AFC Champs?"
Team- "Aww Yeah!!!"

by freeland1787 on Jan 27, 2012 7:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Totally agree- heck, if it was QB vs. QB, we would be discussing whether we would rather the Ravens or Giants win the Super Bowl and discussing what players this team needed to be competitive next year (not that it would really matter since in reality it is just Brady vs. opponent du jour)

"Valdez can pitch, Lee can hit... and pigs can fly."

by dannijd on Jan 27, 2012 10:55 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Eli was awful the first 3 quarters - false

that’s not even close to true. it was our defense that was usually awful the first 3 quarters. it was Eli basically going shot for shot with the opposing offense every week that kept us in enough games for him to finish them off in the 4th.

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by wilddre22 on Jan 28, 2012 11:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, for what it's worth

Mike Silver picks the Giants, and he is 0-2 picking against the Pats so far in the playoffs.

by furiousd on Jan 27, 2012 6:26 PM EST reply actions  

Might as well go for the trifecta

"If you know how to cheat, start now." - Earl Weaver

by rebop on Jan 27, 2012 7:04 PM EST up reply actions  

This

Tedy Bruschi- "How do we feel about being AFC Champs?"
Team- "Aww Yeah!!!"

by freeland1787 on Jan 27, 2012 7:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Did he really pick the Broncos?

Rex Ryan: "There’s no way that we’re looking to replace Mark Sanchez"
Patriots Nation: "Thank God"
Giants Fans: "FOUR MORE YEARS!! FOUR MORE YEARS!!"

by Chris Kole on Jan 27, 2012 10:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Yup, he sure did

Not the previous week though. Oh, no, he picked the Steelers that week.

by furiousd on Jan 27, 2012 10:15 PM EST up reply actions  

smh and I thought

Michael Silver was pretty reasonable and objective when it came to the pats.

Rex Ryan: "There’s no way that we’re looking to replace Mark Sanchez"
Patriots Nation: "Thank God"
Giants Fans: "FOUR MORE YEARS!! FOUR MORE YEARS!!"

by Chris Kole on Jan 27, 2012 10:24 PM EST up reply actions  

ur thinking of michael smith

Tedy Bruschi- "How do we feel about being AFC Champs?"
Team- "Aww Yeah!!!"

by freeland1787 on Jan 28, 2012 12:32 AM EST up reply actions  

Good.

I was waiting for him to pick the giants, since he picked against the pats the last two games and we won.

by vettel on Jan 28, 2012 4:09 AM EST up reply actions  

Former Patriots DC Dean Pees has been promoted to DC for Baltimore

However, after this announcement the news about it isn’t relevant

Tedy Bruschi- "How do we feel about being AFC Champs?"
Team- "Aww Yeah!!!"

by freeland1787 on Jan 27, 2012 9:33 PM EST reply actions  

So the Ravens want to suck at defense next year?

That’ll help when we play them.

The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.
Some people can learn from the mistakes of others, while some people need to pee on the electric fence themselves.
Belichick is looking for a new name for his boat: VI Rings sounds pretty good.

by SlotMachinePlayer on Jan 28, 2012 12:08 AM EST up reply actions  

he was DC 2006-2009

patriots defenses were pretty good but not 2003 and 2004 good

Tedy Bruschi- "How do we feel about being AFC Champs?"
Team- "Aww Yeah!!!"

by freeland1787 on Jan 28, 2012 12:33 AM EST up reply actions  

They pretty much sucked in 2009, which is one of the reasons he left.

Without the veterans, he couldn’t get it done.

The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.
Some people can learn from the mistakes of others, while some people need to pee on the electric fence themselves.
Belichick is looking for a new name for his boat: VI Rings sounds pretty good.

by SlotMachinePlayer on Jan 28, 2012 1:01 AM EST up reply actions  

In Pees defense...

Considering the amount of transition (that defense got very young very quick if memory serves, and really lost its leadership at any rate), it is worth questioning whether anyone could have done a great job with the defense that year.

"Valdez can pitch, Lee can hit... and pigs can fly."

by dannijd on Jan 28, 2012 3:23 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

I personally wondered how much influence he had on the previous Ds...

I mean, a D with Seymour, Wilfork, Warren, Bruschi, Seau, Adalius Thomas, Mayo, Vrabel, Harrison, Sanders, etc more or less runs itself.

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by Comedic.Sans on Jan 28, 2012 5:21 PM EST up reply actions  

True. However, the same could be said about any coach of a great team- where would Bellichick be without Brady, Peyton without Brees, etc.

"Valdez can pitch, Lee can hit... and pigs can fly."

by dannijd on Jan 28, 2012 6:46 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Does anyone feel having made the SB quiet BB’s limited drafting on the defensive side of ball? ie. if Pats win there won’t be a need to draft pass rusher, or DBs

by i luv this site on Jan 28, 2012 11:49 AM EST reply actions  

No, because I think in Belichick's mind

a team can always get better. He’ll draft the same whether the Pats go 2-14 or 19-0, because the final results will never affect the way he coaches/manages the franchise. He’ll draft who he thinks will be the best contributors to the team, and try to field the best team he can for next year.

It matters not how strait the gate, nor charged with punishments the scroll:
I am the Master of my fate. I am the Captain of my soul.

by BigRussNovak on Jan 28, 2012 4:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Totally agree

"Valdez can pitch, Lee can hit... and pigs can fly."

by dannijd on Jan 28, 2012 6:46 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Terrific Tom

Brady will be in his usual rare form for the Superbowl. But the Giants D & Eli will also be in rare form & frustrate the Pats at every turn. The Giants & Eli will turn in another stellar performance, & have a reprise of 2007 Super Bowl when they beat the Pats.

by BeRe on Jan 29, 2012 8:08 AM EST reply actions  

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