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Can the new Pats D play like the old Pats D?

The Patriots are returning to the Super Bowl for the fifth time in the Bill Belichick Era, an incredible run of success for coach and player. The win over the Ravens in some ways was a gift, or at least the absence of overtime was a gift.

Over the course of the last few years Patriots fans have been privy to some really crappy finishes. Let's make a quick list, shall we?

Super Bowl XLII: Giants 17 – Patriots 14

November 2, 2008: Colts 18 – Patriots 15

November 15, 2009: Colts 35 – Patriots 34

December 6, 2009: Dolphins 22 – Patriots 21

October 11, 2009: Broncos 20 – Patriots 17 OT

January 16, 2011: Jets 28 – Patriots 21

September 25, 2011: Bills 34 – Patriots 31

November 6, 2011: Giants 24 – Patriots 20

Since the 2007 season the Patriots have lost a total of 18 games, including three playoff losses; eight of those losses are listed above.1 These were all games that were close down the wire, but in seven of those eight games the Patriots allowed their opponent to score on the last possession of the game.

The only game where the opponent didn't score on their final possession was the 18-15 loss to the Colts, a game in which the Patriots allowed a field goal on the Colts' second to last possession. Seven games over the course of exactly four years might seem like a very small amount, but when you consider that 33% of the Patriots' losses have come on the last possession, it is a little alarming.

If you look back past 2007, and remember the stretch from 1998—2004, you’ll recall that it was back when the backbone of New England’s success was their staunch defensive play. There are so many defensive plays from that era that stand out:

  • Otis Smith running back a fumble to win the AFC Championship game in 1998 (yes young readers, the Jaguars were in the AFC Championship Game).
  • Willy "Big Play" Clay catching an interception in the end zone at the end of a playoff game.
  • Ty Law scoring in Super Bowl XXXVI, spearheading the entire team to a 20-17 win over the Rams.
  • Willie McGinest stuffing Edgerrin James at the goal line at the very end of a game in 2003 to win 38-34.
  • Rodney Harrison picking off Donovan McNabb to end the Super Bowl against the Eagles.

You can also extend the great plays to special teams: Troy Brown's punt return against the Pittsburgh Steelers, and all of Adam Vinatieri's kicks.

Now, if we look back at the Ravens game from this past Sunday many people will say the Pats were lucky. Billy Cundiff missed a big kick at the end that would have forced overtime. It wasn't to win the game; it was to extend the game.

But this shouldn’t be considered too big of a knock on the Pats. After all, doesn't it usually take a little luck to win the Super Bowl? You get lucky, and you take advantage of it. The Helmet Catch. The Tuck rule. The Immaculate Reception. Neil O'Donnell playing quarterback for the opponent. Tommy Maddox playing quarterback playing for the opponent.

On Sunday, the Patriots defense did something it has not done in a long time, especially under pressure against good opponents: it made stops. Brandon Spikes made a huge interception with 7 minutes left, which at the time seemed like it ended the game. Then Tom Brady got confused and thought Matt Slater was Randy Moss, throwing a bad interception on the very next play.

After Brady's interception, the Patriots defense went out and forced the Ravens to turn the ball over on downs, with Vince Wilfork and Jerod Mayo making big plays (Mayo covered Ray Rice on that 4th down as he ran out for a pass).

The Pats went three and out following that big stop by the defense, and ran just four plays in the last seven minutes of the game. This would have been a huge deal if Cundiff made his kick, or if the ghost of Ty Law didn't possess Sterling Moore for two minutes.

So what am I trying to say? The fourth quarter gave the Patriots defense an opportunity to make plays, and guys stepped up. Patriot fans weren't watching Ellis Hobbs look around confused as Plaxico Burress celebrated a touchdown catch. We weren't watching Ryan Fitzpatrick and the Buffalo fans going nuts after an unreal comeback. We were watching the Patriots get stops and make plays on defense. I had forgotten what that was like.

So much of this lack of defensive playmaking started with Super Bowl XLII. It has put pressure on the offense for four years, it has left fans frustrated, and it has left everyone unsatisfied at the end of the last seven seasons.

Finally, Wilfork made plays. Mayo, Spikes, and Sterling Moore made plays. Lee Evans could have caught that ball and won the game, but Moore made a great play. So what if you had never heard of him before Sunday afternoon? Success breeds confidence, and in my mind, it might be just in time.

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Great post!

It’s very true that this Patriots team is mentally tough unlike the ‘09-’10 teams. You really need a killer instinct against this team or they’ll come back at you and kick you in the mouth… Lets go for the pinky ring PATS!!!

by gap2539 on Jan 28, 2012 3:51 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

i think the 2010 team had mental toughness

They beat a lot of good teams that year.

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Patriots Nation: "Thank God"
Giants Fans: "FOUR MORE YEARS!! FOUR MORE YEARS!!"

by Chris Kole on Jan 29, 2012 10:05 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm confindent the D will step up.

In recent playoffs (excluding the first round whoopin handed to us by the Ravens) the D has came up for us, but the offense fell short. Thinking about it, all of the losses this year the D gave us opportunities to win, but the offense couldn’t do it.

On the other hand, when the offense was firing on all cylinders sometimes the D would get torched. The only question is, can the offense and defense play complimentary football? If we get a key pick in the SB, is Tom going to lob another to Slater? If we are leading in the 4th, is the D going to have another meltdown (ahem, Colts game, say what you want about bend but don’t break, sacrificing points for time, etc. that was embarrassing, and should have never happened).

I’m excited, yet nervous for next Sunday, I believe Tom will stay true to his word to Mr. Kraft, and have an amazing game

by BAMF. on Jan 28, 2012 4:08 PM EST reply actions  

The game changer...

The uneasiness of the PATS D at the beginning of the season has about 75% recovered nicely. It has shown over the last 11 games. The D is bringing it! With the D and the O working simutaneously, the PATS cannot lose. They have the edge on numbers already. If the PATS continue pressuring with that D rush… game over! I want these guys to be saluted for their terrific efforts this year. WTG PATS!

by Miss Football on Feb 2, 2012 8:26 AM EST up reply actions  

Let me put it like this,

sometime I’ll be doing a Pats Mock Draft, and here’s the general jist of it;
Just like the Pats used their 1st pick to build up their OLine(see; reaction to nickel/dime packages vs. Jets, 2010 Divisional Round), Pats will use their 1st pick to firm up the DLine. Namely they’ll try snagging a good DT/DE, such as Michael Brockers out of LSU. The Pats really need someone consistent to serve up front with Kyle Love and Vince Wilfork out of their base 3-4 alignment. I was wishing it was JJ Watt last year, but give it to the Texans for making a great pick. I’m not sure if we’ll actually be able to get Brockers, but that’s the main priority for the Pats in the draft followed by CB if the Pats actually use both 1st rounders. Given Brady’s age, I won’t be shocked if Belichick does it.
Center, Safety, and WR can wait until the two 2nd round picks and the 3rd round. Centers and Safeties are rarely worth a 1st rounder(Konz could be the exception this year….) while the Pats need for a WR will be mitigated by the likely FA pickup of Brandon Lloyd. For Center I like Konz and that kid out of Georgia. For Safety, I like Harrison Smith with the Raiders 2nd round pick or George Iloka.
Give the Pats D another name up-front and one or two on the back-end and the Pats D could be very formidible.

It is what it is

by Middlesex on Jan 28, 2012 4:42 PM EST reply actions  

Pretty sound reasoning

I would argue also that the play of Wendell, Connolly and the possible return of Koppen lessens the immediate need to pick up a high round center. Its not to be ruled out but I’m sure BB feels better about letting it slide back a bit considering the production we have gotten from the backups.

by Oughat on Jan 28, 2012 6:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Dan Connolly has been one of the worst Centers this season.

He’s not horrible, but he’s barely ok. That’s unacceptable for this team. Koppen’s a FA this offseason and he’ll also be 34 years old. I’m not sure why Wendell doesn’t get more snaps, but I imagine there’s a good reason for it. I won’t be shocked if they go for Konz but I think the DT/DE spot needs to be filled up given Warren’s age.

It is what it is

by Middlesex on Jan 28, 2012 6:27 PM EST up reply actions  

We need an upgrade at center to be sure.

Koppen can’t handle nose tackles, and Connolly needed all kinds of help (mostly from Waters) against Ngata. If Wendell was actually better, he’d be out there.

We’ll get one in the 1st or 2nd round.

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by SlotMachinePlayer on Jan 30, 2012 3:06 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't think Love is a FA this off-season...

and he’s definitely a good player. He might not be elite, but he’s definitely a good player worth keeping. Gerard Warren and Shaun Ellis are both going to be close to or at the ripe age of 35, which is like 45 for a Lineman. After Wilfork, I’d definitely say Love is next on the depth chart. Deaderick has his moments while Brace hasn’t really done much beyond that one play for the ball against Lance Ball in Week 15 to force a fumble.

It is what it is

by Middlesex on Jan 29, 2012 12:15 PM EST up reply actions  

yes he is a free agent

Brace is signed through 2012.
Deadrick through 2013.

GFY

by TFBismywingman on Jan 29, 2012 8:36 PM EST up reply actions  

I think theyll usetheir first pick on a center

and trade the second pick. I like Deadrick at DE so far.

With their next pick, they’ll grab a safety.

But I won’t do anything draft related or evaluating players until after the superbowl..

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

by Jack'sAxe on Jan 29, 2012 2:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Konz is the only Center worth a 1st round selection,

after that it’s the kid from Georgia who’s late-2nd round or 3rd round, and then one or two others worth a late-3rd round pick.

I like him a lot, but if we’re going to take him we need to use the 27th overall on him as the Ravens will surely go for him with the 29th pick given that Matt Birk is retiring. If there’s not an excellent DT/DE or CB selection at the 27th, and no great WRs have fallen that far, then taking him at 27 might not be such a bad idea. Then again there’s no sure thing that Konz will last into the late-1st round.

I’m not sold on Deaderick as a starter, and even if I was, the Pats need to build depth at that position.

It is what it is

by Middlesex on Jan 29, 2012 4:14 PM EST up reply actions  

They need some depth sure.

But Deadrick has proved he can start. SO far he has been able to seal the edge well, and collapse the pocket. If we want to get depth, then we should spend a first on a DL. I wouldn’t argue against getting a DE in the first, but I feel that Center, Safety, OLB, WR and OG are more important imo.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

by Jack'sAxe on Jan 29, 2012 4:33 PM EST up reply actions  

A Center can switch to Guard,

and Marcus Cannon is being groomed more for RG than RT. Brian Waters will be back next year so we’ll see how that goes. We don’t need to use a 1st rounder or even 2nd rounder for a G, especially with how pressing the need is at C.

I don’t think we need OLB except for depth. Anderson and Ninkovich are good players who will be fine for next year plus we got Markelle Carter on the practice squad looking promising. Anderson is really coming on strong. We’ll see about Andre Carter’s return from injury. We don’t need to use a 1st rounder here.

It is what it is

by Middlesex on Jan 29, 2012 5:39 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree about the guard and OLB.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

by Jack'sAxe on Jan 29, 2012 5:48 PM EST up reply actions  

I disagree

We shouldn’t count on new free agents to have repeat years especially those with rather inconsistent careers like Anderson. AD was suppose to be a staple on D, so was Bodden. Also you really don’t know how good Carter will be when he’s a year older and coming off injury.

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by Chris Kole on Jan 29, 2012 9:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Only way I see them going for an DE/OLB in the draft

is if they don’t trade back into next year’s draft and find a talent worth the value of the pick. If they actually use the second 1st rounder, or the second 2nd rounder, then maybe they’ll try for someone but I really doubt it. They’re not old at that position like they are at DT/DE with Ellis/Warren or C if they resign Koppen and drop Connolly(who’s really not a long-term solution at C). They’re not lacking depth at DE/OLB like they are at S and WR(remember, Welker is a much better slot-receiver than a wide-receiver). There are areas of this team where talent is needed more desperately than others.

It is what it is

by Middlesex on Jan 29, 2012 10:20 PM EST up reply actions  

sounds logical...

predicting the hoodie is almost impossible, even his scouts have no idea where he’s going.

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by sweetjesusihatethejets on Jan 28, 2012 5:16 PM EST reply actions  

If we win this superbowl..

Odds of Moore getting into Patriots Place HOF on that one pass defended?

GFY

by TFBismywingman on Jan 29, 2012 9:45 AM EST reply actions  

He is getting too much credit for that play....

…I thought the next play deserved far more credit. That very next play where his technique, instincts, and timing were absolutely perfect in defending the pass to Pitta right at the goalline. It wasn’t as dramatic as the first pass he defended, but it was a better play with less room for dispute.

All I’m saying is this post-season, Sterling Moore has defended 4 passes; averaging two a game. This follows his masterful Week 17 performance against the Bills. He just has that one missed tackle vs. Torrey Smith against his name

It is what it is

by Middlesex on Jan 29, 2012 12:18 PM EST up reply actions  

According to advancenflstats

Moore has been the best CB performer in the post season so far. They have numbers.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

by Jack'sAxe on Jan 29, 2012 2:06 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd like to see him start.

I’d also still like to see the Pats try adding another quality CB through the draft. However, that’ll all come down to the talent available for the holes at WR/C/DT-DE/S.

It is what it is

by Middlesex on Jan 29, 2012 4:17 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd like to see them get another CB too.

We don’t know if Ras-I will stay healthy next year.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

by Jack'sAxe on Jan 29, 2012 4:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah but nobody remembers all the bad stats

its all about the one huge play that makes the record books,
and the highlite reels for enternity as why the Pats get to and win this SB

GFY

by TFBismywingman on Jan 29, 2012 8:38 PM EST up reply actions  

In the past three games, Sterling has..

..something like 6 PDs and 2 INTs including a pick-6.

It is what it is

by Middlesex on Jan 29, 2012 10:21 PM EST up reply actions  

It doesn't matter he will be a Pats HOF or not

but if we win, he will be remembered forever by us Patriots fans…which I think is the biggest honor as a player

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by cruelangelT on Jan 29, 2012 9:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Couple things I notice about the great defensive stands:

1) A star LBer. I think Mayo qualifies as this.

2) A star CB (my favorite of his time). Do the pats have one? I am not really qualified to speak on this.

3) A great Safety of another era. I don’t think the Pats have a great Safety that can lead this D.

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by PotM on Feb 5, 2012 3:28 PM EST reply actions  

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