Bill O'Brien Agrees to be Penn State Head Coach: Where do the Pats Go from Here?
According to multiple reports, Patriots offensive coordinator Bill O'Brien has accepted the vacant head coaching position at Penn State, and will be introduced by the team on Saturday (according to a Chris Mortensen ESPN report).
The news isn't exactly unexpected. Over the past weekend there were conflicting reports over O'Brien's interest in the position, but with word coming from O'Brien's agent earlier today that he would be interviewing for the Penn State position, it seemed to be only a matter of time that O'Brien accepted a position somewhere else.
The two questions that immediately come to everyone's mind with this news is first, will O'Brien coach through the end of the season? And second, who will replace O'Brien as the offensive coordinator for the Patriots?
The first question has already been answered by ESPN's Adam Schefter. According to Schefter, O'Brien will pull "double duty" throughout the Patriots playoff run. This is what Charlie Weis did back in 2004 when he had been hired by Notre Dame. The Patriots went on to win the Super Bowl that year, but you can't deny that this news has to be somewhat distracting not only to O'Brien's focus on the team, but in the locker room as well. O'Brien has every right to pursue further career opportunities, but as a Patriots fan, the news can be a little frustrating considering its timing.
The second question probably will not be answered for some time. When the team's last offensive coordinator, Josh McDaniels, departed to be the head coach in Denver after the 2008 season, the Patriots had a few viable in-house candidates including O'Brien who was groomed for the job. This time around, the Patriots have less candidates, unless the team were to surprise and give either running back coach Ivan Fears or offensive line / assistant head coach Dante Scarnecchia the responsibilities (I think Belichick, the team, and the coaches themselves are happy with the current situation at those spots).
The two most viable in-house candidates appear to be Brian Ferentz, the tight ends coach and Chad O'Shea, the receivers coach. I think Ferentz needs a few more years of experience before taking on such a role. And while O'Shea could be a candidate, I could also see the team making a move to bring back Josh McDaniels. ESPN Boston's Mike Reiss speculated the same thing:
A Josh McDaniels return, if he's ultimately available (he was not fired when Rams coach Steve Spagnuolo was shown the door and is still under contract in St. Louis), makes a lot of sense. It was McDaniels' departure following the 2008 season to become Broncos head coach that opened the door for O'Brien's ascent up the Patriots' coaching ladder, giving him the chance to work with Tom Brady as quarterbacks coach/playcaller. Unlike some other Patriots assistants who have left to become head coaches elsewhere, no bridges have been burned when it comes to McDaniels and the Patriots.
Of course, we want to wish Bill O'Brien the best of luck at Penn State. He was underrated in terms of being a strong voice. His personality was brash, and I liked it. His play calling has been criticized at times for being to predictable, but I think he's done a pretty solid job overall the past three years, and has done a nice job transitioning the Patriots from the 3-WR base in 2009, to the power-TE offense we've seen the past two years in New England.
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Great
Just what we needed heading into the playoffs!
They should hire myself and my copy of madden 12
by alweezy61 on Jan 6, 2012 1:39 AM EST via Android app reply actions
lol
With Brady, I think you could pull it off
The Pats have apparently
inquired about speaking with Josh McDaniels, already. McD wasn’t fired along with Spags, so he’s still under contract with the Rams. It would be a lateral move, so the Rams would be within their rights to prevent him from going.
This has moved so quickly, it makes me think the Pats are interested in bringing in McD for right now.
Well, the Rams' offseason already started, it makes sense to move quickly.
Especially if the Chiefs are interested in McD too.
That's why he wasn't fired
This way they can extract compensation, which I’m not wild about. I like mcdaniels, but I’d rather see a guy like ferentz. Mcdaniels should move forward, not backward. Besides, he’s just going to jump in a year or two anyway
Oklahoma State will beat LSU in the National Title game by more than 7 points.
by No Pity on Jan 6, 2012 8:22 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
The only way any OC stays here for very long is if he's not interested in an HC job.
When Belichick is your boss and Brady is your QB, you’re going to look pretty damn smart. Teams are going to be all over whoever the Pats’ OC is, regardless of whether it’s Ferentz or McD. Personally, I think Ferentz is still a few years away, and I don’t think it makes any sense to spend the next couple of years letting some young play caller go through his “growing pains” while Brady isn’t getting any younger. McD would be a great stop-gap while Ferentz matures as an offensive coach, and maybe he’d even hang around for a while, since his last gig ended so badly.
True.
I didn’t consider the Chiefs, although I think they’ve got to settle on a head coach before they start signing an offensive coordinator (and they aren’t considering McD for HC). But I guess they could pull a Jerry Jones and make their eventual HC work with a hand-picked OC, a la Wade Phillips and Jason Garret. But that doesn’t seem to make much sense, and I don’t think it’s something Pioli would ever do.
I wondered about Bill's relationship with Josh
Didn’t he make a comment about Patriots players directed by Bill to line up close to the sideline on kickoffs? After the Jets got called out on it?
No, he didn't
at least i never heard that. The Jets guy tried to blame the Pats somehow for their lining up like they did.
There's a New Year's sale on Offensive Coordinators at Walmart this week.
$499,999.96
Better yet, they’ll match other stores sale prices.
- offer not valid in all areas, void where prohibited or just stupid
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.
Some people can learn from the mistakes of others, while some people need to pee on the electric fence themselves.
Belichick is looking for a new name for his boat: VI Rings sounds pretty good.
by SlotMachinePlayer on Jan 6, 2012 8:24 AM EST reply actions
Also, if you look at that picture, it's obvious to anyone with eyes
that O’Brien was trying to force-choke Tom Brady. Luckily for us the Force is strong with Brady and he could resist.
Face it O’Brien had to go.
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.
Some people can learn from the mistakes of others, while some people need to pee on the electric fence themselves.
Belichick is looking for a new name for his boat: VI Rings sounds pretty good.
by SlotMachinePlayer on Jan 6, 2012 10:00 AM EST reply actions
It's in the employee manual.
Misuse of force powers is grounds for dismissal. (Or in this case, demotion to the worst job in college football).
True wealth is a shelf full of unread books.
by Hometown Gyro on Jan 7, 2012 12:28 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Double Duty?
That’s horrible. If anybody else takes a new job at another company and give (2+ weeks) notice, they aren’t allowed to do both. He should not be allowed to do anything for State Penn until after the Pats win SB XLVI.
Not true.
Lots of professionals – doctors, lawyers, accountants – will continue to work with and wrap up business with existing clients of their old firm/group as they transition to a new one. I think football coaches are quite similar.
With national signing day Feb 3rd
He either has the existing scouts in place doing all the ground work. Not that many high prospects will probably remain comitted after the recent events. I assume their still in a dead period through the national championship on monday. Penn St. will suck for a couple years provided there aren’t any additional NCAA sanctions placed on the school
GFY
Man I hope McDaniels comes back to the Pats
We have precious little time left with Brady playing at this level. We can’t waste another 2 years grooming an offensive coordinator.
Does anyone else remember how crappy Bill O’Briens play calling was when he started? I don’t want a repeat of that.
by bbismyhero on Jan 6, 2012 10:25 AM EST via mobile reply actions
if josh does come back
he better not change our scheme back to 3 WR sets
"Thirty-seven points on the best defense in the league, suck my d–k" - Bill Belichick
The Ryan Brothers: Two brother's who never played a down as an NFL player, Yet feel the need to trash talk like they are in the Hall Of Fame
by BostonBeasts on Jan 6, 2012 12:16 PM EST via Android app reply actions
Does anyone know
the source of the Vitriol being flung at O’Brien from the Penn State folks? I could understand a lack of enthusiasm, but not the vitriol.
From what I can understand
It’s mainly two reasons: They were left out of the search process, and O’Brien isn’t a Penn State alum. I don’t understand it, frankly.
Keep the faith!
Stupid people do stupid things?
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.
Some people can learn from the mistakes of others, while some people need to pee on the electric fence themselves.
Belichick is looking for a new name for his boat: VI Rings sounds pretty good.
by SlotMachinePlayer on Jan 7, 2012 12:02 AM EST up reply actions
yeah that is basically it
Lavar Arrington has a radio show here in DC and he is livid.
One of my questions is...
are all Penn State professors graduates of Penn State too? All coaches and positions or just the football program?
I don’t know. Maybe it’s my blue collar, UMass background but I’ll never understand such an exclusive, “we’re in, you’re out” mentality. Loyalty is one thing, but this takes it to a weird, ‘no one outside the family is acceptable’ level and is that really the Penn State message?
They had a serious and criminal problem with the culture in their Penn-State-Only program. It’s unfathomable that the alumni would insist the school recreate the same scenario that produced the sickness that was allowed to fester for years unabated in the first place. And not only that but they’ve threatened to sabotage O’Brien by calling recruits and imploring them to rescind their scholarships and sign elsewhere. If that’s ‘family’, then maybe it really is a good time to infuse some fresh blood.
Keep the faith!
by Marima on Jan 7, 2012 12:06 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Bravo. Well said.
If I could rec from my phone, I would.
The WORST crime imaginable happened at your school and was covered up by “the family.” You have a serious PR problem (even if you somehow don’t care about that perversion taking place in your program). You HAVE to bring in an outsider who had nothing to do with what went on there. Allegedly.
True wealth is a shelf full of unread books.
by Hometown Gyro on Jan 7, 2012 12:34 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Seriously
Penn St’s not even giving B.O.B a chance to visit the campus before they decide to try and strongarm potential recruits from going there? Who exactly did these guys have in mind, anyways?
I learned how to make a sig just so it can say "DFA Darnell MacDonald". That means it must happen.
by Tai on Jan 7, 2012 3:41 PM EST up reply actions
It's the nature of raging college football fanatics
Coupled with the exit of Joe Pa – the mainstay of Penn St football.
There is no way a high end coach was going to take over there, the fans were expecting the second coming of Joe.
Outside of NE no one new who BoB was until he yelled at TFB post INT against Wash.
Add in one of the selection process guys leaked that he had no idea of the pick until after it was announced, creates some feeling of backroom scandal.
I can recall the same level of hate directed at chiszik when he was hired at Auburn, but thats quiteted since winning the BCSNC – Cam won it actually.
The fans probably wanted the second coming of the mesiah, Nick Saban serves this role at Bama.
GFY
by TFBismywingman on Jan 7, 2012 9:29 AM EST up reply actions

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