Welker, Gronkowski Named to NFL All-Pro Team
by Greg Knopping on Jan 6, 2012 4:58 PM EST
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The Associated Press has announced its official 2011 NFL All-Pro team. The Patriots, following a 13-3 season that landed them the #1 seed in the AFC, landed just two players on the All-Pro roster: wide receiver Wes Welker and tight end Rob Gronkowski.
Welker, 30, led the NFL in receptions with 122. He was also second in yards with 1,569, and also added nine touchdown receptions. Welker received 23 votes. The 50 total voters were allowed to select two different "starting" receivers. Calvin Johnson led all receivers with 49 votes.
Rob Gronkowski, in his second NFL season, broke multiple receiving records for tight ends including yards (1,327) and touchdowns (17). He became the favorite target of Patriots quarterback Tom Brady, and looked like a guarantee for the All-Pro roster. Gronkowski received 44.5 of a possible 50 votes. Jimmy Graham received the other 5.5, meaning no votes for Aaron Hernandez.
At guard, Logan Mankins was fourth in votes (10) and Brian Waters was fifth (5). Mankins gets the second team All-Pro honors, while Waters is left off both rosters. Disappointing for Waters, who certainly had the superior season.
The only other Patriot to receive votes was defensive tackle Vince Wilfork, who received five. That tied him for fourth among defensive tackles with Richard Seymour of the Raiders, meaning that he is also second team All-Pro.
No other Patriot received any votes. That's a disappointment for quarterback Tom Brady. Aaron Rodgers received 47.5 votes, with Drew Brees getting the other 2.5. I find it hard to believe that Brady couldn't even get a split vote. Any other year, and he's a near unanimous All-Pro selection.
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Compared to Gronk, Welker looks like Minny Me.
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.
Some people can learn from the mistakes of others, while some people need to pee on the electric fence themselves.
Belichick is looking for a new name for his boat: VI Rings sounds pretty good.
by SlotMachinePlayer on Jan 6, 2012 5:07 PM EST reply actions
I think many mediots are looking for the next big thing at QB.
It’s been Manning and Brady for a decade. What’s next? Brady is so last decade.
Not that Rodgers hasn’t done well, but look what his backup was able to do with the same roster.
With Brees, it looks like they are actively trying to break records.
It’ll shock them all if Brady and Manning are back to killing it next year and everyone else is in the back seat.
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.
Some people can learn from the mistakes of others, while some people need to pee on the electric fence themselves.
Belichick is looking for a new name for his boat: VI Rings sounds pretty good.
by SlotMachinePlayer on Jan 6, 2012 5:24 PM EST reply actions
Agreed
TB12 is being so overlooked at this point, and Peyton is rarely even mentioned with “Rodgers and Brees” anymore.
It’s pretty clear that Rodgers and Brees have entered the “elite” quarterback class, but neither have the track record of Brady or Manning.
And considering that Brady is having arguably his best career season, it’s amazing that he’s been overlooked so much.
by Greg Knopping on Jan 6, 2012 5:28 PM EST up reply actions
Also Cam Newton was killing it for awhile and Matthew Stafford as well.
This is the dawning of the age of the quarterback.
(Sounds like a song coming on.)
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.
Some people can learn from the mistakes of others, while some people need to pee on the electric fence themselves.
Belichick is looking for a new name for his boat: VI Rings sounds pretty good.
by SlotMachinePlayer on Jan 6, 2012 5:36 PM EST up reply actions
Peyton is still the QB that has created the most fear for me.
Terrifies me
Up by 21 4th quarter? Still don’t feel safe with Peyton out there
by quadruple option on Jan 6, 2012 5:57 PM EST up reply actions
I know what you mean.
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.
Some people can learn from the mistakes of others, while some people need to pee on the electric fence themselves.
Belichick is looking for a new name for his boat: VI Rings sounds pretty good.
by SlotMachinePlayer on Jan 6, 2012 5:58 PM EST up reply actions
This isn't Brady's best season
Missed too many open receivers this year (accuracy not as pin-point)
Rex Ryan: "There’s no way that we’re looking to replace Mark Sanchez"
Patriots Nation: "Thank God"
Giants Fans: "FOUR MORE YEARS!! FOUR MORE YEARS!!"
I would agree Brady was more accurate last season and in 2007
But Brady has been his most clutch, and has fought more adversity than ever this year.
by Greg Knopping on Jan 7, 2012 3:24 PM EST up reply actions
Just a tad inconsistent this year
at times he misfired, but at other times he looked as good as he has ever looked, and often in the same game.
What’s funny is if you tell anyone who’s a fan of another team that Brady’s not perfect and that wonder what medication you’re on.
We never win it all when our leader reaches milestones or records. That's why not getting any votes for All-Pro fits
the scenario perfect. TB get’s his pinkie ring Bling
by Yardpenalty.com on Jan 7, 2012 4:32 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
This is our time! When Brady rises to the top with us winning it all the All-Pro award will be long forgotten.
Nice observation. Look for the new Cam Newton type QB’s to be nothing more than flashes in the pan and ticket sellers. I wouldn’t go as far as them being compared to the wildcat hype because their obviously very talented and might be very successful, but when it comes down to it can they overcome the turnovers and adjust to playoff football? They might, since the league rules are changing making it easier for the WR’s to get open and QB’s throwing 5k a season. Until the day comes when a team wins with this type of QB in the NFL I will take Brady or Manning any day. I’m old school and Mr. Terrific is still the best QB in the NFL to me :)
by Yardpenalty.com on Jan 7, 2012 2:23 PM EST up reply actions
Brees and Rodgers had better seasons
Maybe a single .5 vote just because Brady’s season was still awesome, but he was the 3rd best QB this season.
I don't suffer from insanity; I enjoy every minute of it
The best thing about Brady-Manning is the story line.
No Manning, no storyline. Gotta write about something.
"Every time I call it a game, you call it a business. Every time I call it a business, you call it a game."
Amazing how tied together those guys are.
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.
Some people can learn from the mistakes of others, while some people need to pee on the electric fence themselves.
Belichick is looking for a new name for his boat: VI Rings sounds pretty good.
by SlotMachinePlayer on Jan 6, 2012 6:22 PM EST up reply actions
I'd like to see Brees and Rodgers get there, too.
They haven’t faced each other enough to become nemeses.
Many people feel Manning will be back, and back for a few more good years. IDK if the Colts are really in shape to take advantage of that, though. Wayne is FA, and I’m afraid they may let him walk (he may also have lost a step or two — dunno). But the rest of the offense (including and especially the line) are a shambles. The best thing you can say about their defense is that it isn’t ours.
"Every time I call it a game, you call it a business. Every time I call it a business, you call it a game."
by JohnHannahRules on Jan 6, 2012 6:28 PM EST up reply actions
yeah that team has a ton of big choices to make
Saturday, Wayne, Garcon and A. Gonzalez are all going to be FAs. If they draft Luck I’m willing to bet they let the older guys go
100% agreed
the fact that the media so overhypes Rodgers and Brees while ignoring Brady can only come down to, as you said, the fact that they’re tired of the same thing and want something different. So, even though nothing really is different, they’ll overhype whoever they can to make it sound as if it is. And thats downright disgusting.
Also, as for the voting, thats off too. Mankins had no business being ahead of Waters – he probably shouldn’t have been ahead of some others too. These votes, the Pro Bow, the media in general, and heck, most fans judge based off name recognition and head-lines alone.
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- Toby Turner
by New Century Silver on Jan 6, 2012 7:45 PM EST reply actions
And Btw
1: Brees and Rodgers both had far easier schedules. The Steelers, Ravens, Jets, etc all have far harsher defenses then any of them played. Look when the Packers play a decent defense like the Giants, Cheifs, or Lions – its usually a close game. What would happened if they faced an actual elite defense as we have to every year? I’m betting Rodger’s year would look about like Brady’s did.
2: Both teams have way better receivers then us. Until Brady has four Gronkowskis that he’s had a chance to get familiar with for his entire career, its not remotely even.
3: Brady has to play in the cold, pften snowy North-East. Rogers also has to deal with this, but Brees gets to play half his games in a dome.
4: The rest is just pure overhype. Did Rodgers break the TD record? No. Did he break the yardage record? No. Did he win the Superbowl? Not yet. So, at this point, there is no reason to even call Rodger’s season memorable.
CONCLUSION: Brees and Rodgers both have massive advantages over Brady, to the point where they should be outperforming him every year. And yet, it takes a career year for them to equal Brady’s statistically third best year.
Oh my god a floor zombie! Oh wait, thats you
- Toby Turner
by New Century Silver on Jan 6, 2012 7:58 PM EST reply actions
To be fair, if Rodgers didn't rest, he'd have a shot at the TD record
But I know what you mean (except for SOS, which Brees and Rodgers faced pretty good teams like each other)
Pedey: Dear Playstation, So MLB the Show '09 says I can't hit the high and inside, huh? That's ridiculous, ask Ramon.
Ramon: Yeah, he can hit it. In fact, if I were to die today and went to some weird...(grabs script) some weird limbo afterlife, where I can gaze at one thing for eternity. Dustin's swing, or my daggers? (DAUGHTERS!) daughter's first steps, I would choose that swing.
Lazer Show: I can hit that pitch!
by BrokenbatGrandSlam on Jan 6, 2012 9:35 PM EST up reply actions
If he'd have been 15-0
He wouldnt have rested
by HailHoodie on Jan 7, 2012 12:43 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
2nd most yards all time...
And no freaking vote? Btw, Brees deserved more than 2.5 votes.
Pedey: Dear Playstation, So MLB the Show '09 says I can't hit the high and inside, huh? That's ridiculous, ask Ramon.
Ramon: Yeah, he can hit it. In fact, if I were to die today and went to some weird...(grabs script) some weird limbo afterlife, where I can gaze at one thing for eternity. Dustin's swing, or my daggers? (DAUGHTERS!) daughter's first steps, I would choose that swing.
Lazer Show: I can hit that pitch!
by BrokenbatGrandSlam on Jan 6, 2012 9:36 PM EST reply actions
We all know how competitive TB is,
so lets make sure he gets the memo. Not that he needs it, but it wouldn’t hurt to have one more little chip on his shoulder. I’m forwarding the vote tally to his email…right now.
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