Hidden Benefits of Getting McDaniels
Josh McDaniels brings alot to this team. As an offensive coordinator alone, he was able to take our 14-2 or 13-3 teams to the next level, getting maximum production out of Moss, Brady, Gaffney, and the others. They were a group which was, considering how Moss had played in Oakland, nowhere near as dangerous as Gronk, Hernando etc. Most were above-average at best, but in 2007, they all became superstars - even Welker, an udrafted, recently traded player who had done nothing in Miami. McDaniels and Belichick turned a group of castaways into the best offense in history, all with just one season for players to adapt and get on the same page.
This time around, instead of starting with cast-aways, hes starting with two of the best and youngest TEs in the league. Welker and Brady have only improved, as has the run-game. Virtually the entire offense, down to its chemistry and experience together, is better then it was in 2007. We're one good WR away from being the best team in the league.
And thats focusing only on his abilities as a coordinator. Speaking of WRs, Brandon Lloyd is likely to try to follow McDaniels as he did when McDaniels left Denver. Though he is no Randy Moss, Lloyd is coming off a Pro-Bowl year and would add to our offense that key 5th threat as well as a non-smurf option at WR. If that doesn't work out theres also OchoCinco, who would no-doubt benefit under McDaniels, likely seeing more playing time - and, at this point, that seems to be all thats holding him back. If all goes perfect, as it very well could with Brady, McDaniels,and Belichick, we could end up with 6 above-average pass-catchers IN ADDITION TO guys like Woodhead, Edelman, etc.
But beyond all that there is one other bonus that I have yet to see anyone mention: McDaniels' ability as a QB coach and trainer. Thanks to McDaniels, Cassel, despite being drafted in the 7th round, would end up being a starter on two different teams. 11-5 is a remarkable record for a team without its HOF QB - just ask the Colts. Considering Brady has probably no more then 5 years left in his career, it is key that we start thinking about Mallet/Hoyer and who will end up taking over the starting job once Tom Terrific retires. In many ways, this leaves us in a similar situation as with the offense in general - last time, McD had to work with overall worse (7th round) talent. Now, with 3rd round Mallet, (who really could have gone higher if it weren't for character concerns) the skys the limit.
We'll have to wait and see how it plays out: McD certainly didn't work for Denver as planned. Still, from the way it looks now, Bill Belichick and the Patriots upper management have just killed three birds with one stone.
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Good post
I’m with you and see a whole host of positives with this move. Ideally, of course, nothing rocks the boat and O’Brien doesn’t get any job offers until after the Pats win the Super Bowl. But, McDaniels coming back to help out is all good.
Keep the faith!
I meant to add...
it’s all good, considering the Patriots’ coordinators-in-waiting aren’t ready to make the leap just yet.
Keep the faith!
Theres also a chance
McD could take over when BB retires. I’m not sure I’d be hot on this, as his drafting was rather dismal in Denver. However, with 10+ years under the best coach in the league, I’d hope its ability to judge talent would improve.
According ton an unnamed source, part of the reason he came to NE was because he wanted to settle down and have a sense of job security that wouldn’t be there with the Chiefs. He said this was for his family, which probably means he intends to raise his kids (both of whom are under 10 years old) in the New England region. If this is his intention, I don’t see it as far off to believe he would work as the Pats OC for sevearl years at least. Its all pretty far off and speculative, but certainly worth thinking about.
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by New Century Silver on Jan 7, 2012 8:58 PM EST up reply actions
I think BB is laying a foundation for success
In the future. BB realizes he can’t coach forever and that he needs to leave a system in place that insure future patriots success. McD is a guy that trusts Bill and believes in the way Bill coaches. Now that McD has tried coaching on his own BB can say “look, you tried coaching your way it didn’t work out, but learn under me for a few more years and I’ll put in a good word for you.”. Not sure I love that idea, but it’s a thought.
by Ghu55 on Jan 8, 2012 2:31 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
on top of lloyd id like to get our hands on
either laurent robinson or jerome simpson, what do you all think are the chances of bringing one of them studs over as our number three? as well as the chances that they can mesh with Brady, we all have learned that is no gimme by any means.
What went wrong with him and the rams though?
The move is quite exciting, and at the very least is intriguing, however he was OC at the rams last year, so why hasn’t he worked any degree of magic there? If anything they majorly regressed….
Just trying to keep up.
Bradford got injured, Rams offense isn't as talented as NE etc.
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Ramon: Yeah, he can hit it. In fact, if I were to die today and went to some weird...(grabs script) some weird limbo afterlife, where I can gaze at one thing for eternity. Dustin's swing, or my daggers? (DAUGHTERS!) daughter's first steps, I would choose that swing.
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by BrokenbatGrandSlam on Jan 8, 2012 8:59 PM EST up reply actions
I thought Bradford didn't have many players around him.
A great running back in Steven Jackson (9th in yards at 1145 plus 333 receiving).
Lance Kendricks is 30th for yards at TE at 352 and 28 catches (Gronk and Herndo are 1st and 4th).
Danario Alexander and Brandon Gibson are 79th and 80th in the league in yards at 431 each with 26 and 36 catches respectively. (Welker and Branch are 2nd and 41st).
Doesn’t scream prolific passing attack to me.
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Jan 9, 2012 11:38 AM EST up reply actions

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