Could Brandon Lloyd Follow Josh McDaniels to the Patriots?
by Greg Knopping on Jan 7, 2012 3:01 PM EST
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With Deion Branch's contract set to expire at the end of the 2011 season and receiver Chad Ochocinco not exactly playing up to expectations, the New England Patriots might be in the market for a #2 receiver this offseason.
When news came earlier today that Josh McDaniels would be returning to the Patriots, one name that immediately came to mind was Brandon Lloyd, who is scheduled to be an unrestricted free agent this offseason. Lloyd has experienced tremendous success under McDaniels in a little more than two seasons. In 2010, Lloyd set a career highs in receptions (77), yards (1,448), and touchdowns (11). He led the NFL in receiving and was named to the Pro Bowl and All-Pro teams. This year, McDaniels, with the Rams, helped convince his new team to trade for Lloyd. Lloyd experienced moderate success, with 51 catches for 683 yards and five touchdowns in 11 games.
The Patriots have previously expressed interested in Lloyd. The Patriots were in discussions to acquire him from the Broncos prior to the trade deadline this year. Ultimately, he ended up in St. Louis. But with Josh McDaniels now landing back in New England, it doesn't seem like much of a stretch to think that he could land in New England, especially when considering what Lloyd recently said to Jim Thomas of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch:
"I can't even lie about that. I'm tied to McDaniels. He uses me differently than other offensive coordinators used me in my entire career. He uses me as an every-play receiver. The short game, mid-range game, gimmick passes, deep balls. I do everything in this offense as opposed to other coordinators who would just run me off as the deep guy; run me off into double coverage and then say I'm not open. So I really like how Josh uses me within the offense. I'm extremely comfortable in the offense."
Lloyd then continued:
"Probably No. 1 (as a factor), because I want to be successful, and I want to earn whatever money I'm making. I want to be used in ways where I feel comfortable and I can be successful. And Josh knows how to do that."
Bringing a player such as Brandon Lloyd into the picture would certainly be a slam dunk move for the Patriots. Lloyd has already had tremendous success in McDaniels' schemes, still has plenty in the tank (turns 31 in July), and may event take a discount to join McDaniels in New England. Lloyd can do a bit of everything - he can separate short or deep down the field, make spectacular grabs, and turn short throws into long gains.
All of this being said, what would be your opinion of Brandon Lloyd joining the Patriots in the 2012 offseason?
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07 Moss?
Seems like the perfect storm
Rex Ryan: "There’s no way that we’re looking to replace Mark Sanchez"
Patriots Nation: "Thank God"
Giants Fans: "FOUR MORE YEARS!! FOUR MORE YEARS!!"
by Chris Kole on Jan 7, 2012 3:04 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
That offense was predicated on
Moss, Welker, and Stallworth. What could happen with Lloyd, Welker, Gronkowski/Hernandez, AND a legitimate running game that we sorely missed in ’07?
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by BigRussNovak on Jan 7, 2012 3:08 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
He is an upgrade
but sounds like another ocho to me. Old but not too old, gonna see if we can squeeze the last couple good years out of him. I would rather go young at the position.
Well, he's 3 years younger
and has more tread on the tire from missing some games due to injury, etc. But he does seem more motivated and a little better attitude these days.
Not really like Ocho
Ocho 2011 Age: 33-34
Lloyd 2012 Age: 30-31
Lloyd is more of a threat down the field. Lloyd has experience in the Patriots system under McDaniels. Lloyd is coming off his two most productive NFL seasons, Ocho was coming off two of his least productive.
by Greg Knopping on Jan 7, 2012 3:19 PM EST up reply actions
The “eye test” would make me think Ocho is still a little bit more athletic
by quadruple option on Jan 7, 2012 4:05 PM EST up reply actions
Ocho is still athletic, he's shown that much this year
But you think he’s more athletic than Lloyd? I don’t think so. Lloyd still has got the speed to get downfield consistently.
by Greg Knopping on Jan 7, 2012 4:13 PM EST up reply actions
Again it’s purely eye test
Ocho, like Herndo, looks good moving
Some players are crazy fast without looking it (Tate)
by quadruple option on Jan 7, 2012 11:52 PM EST up reply actions
You think Ocho could make this catch?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uw_u7Om4cjY
Bad quality, but you get the point. Lloyd has some crazy athleticism.
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Plus
Ocho came from a very simplistic system, WRs had to make very few reads if any. Lloyd has already shown he can play in a system a little harder on WRs
Rex Ryan: "There’s no way that we’re looking to replace Mark Sanchez"
Patriots Nation: "Thank God"
Giants Fans: "FOUR MORE YEARS!! FOUR MORE YEARS!!"
Pretty interesting
I think he would have to take a discount to come here, but ti could be nice. Maybe someone can straighten me out, but for some reason I feel that Lloyd has had attitude issues in the past. Not a team player, gives up on plays etc. Anyone have any insight on that? Not that we are necessarily shy about those type players, but still.
Obviously, if having played for McDaniels means he basically knows the playbook than that’s a huge bonus.
My ideal plan to rebuild the WR corps would be
To sign Lloyd, franchise Welker, draft a developmental deep threat in the 2nd/3rd round, and bring back either Ocho or Branch as the 3rd/4th receiver. Edelman and Slater would also be retained.
I’d like to see what Ochocinco could do with a full offseason with Tom Brady, and he could get that chance (I believe he was paid his signing bonus up-front, which means he’s only due his non-guaranteed base salary of $3 million). Branch could be re-signed cheap to compete for a roster spot. His chemistry with Tom Brady is undeniable and he will only be 32-33 next year.
2nd Round seems a little too high
for a guy that probably won’t start for you immediately. I want this to be a D heavy draft.
Rex Ryan: "There’s no way that we’re looking to replace Mark Sanchez"
Patriots Nation: "Thank God"
Giants Fans: "FOUR MORE YEARS!! FOUR MORE YEARS!!"
Agree, but we only have 1-4 this year
at least for now. Although we have 2 first rounders, and 2 second rounders, and i believe just one in the 3rd and 4th and that’s it.
I love that ides. Id we can grab a guy like Kendall Wright in the mid to late 2nd, i would be ecstatic.
Depth is great. Right up until you need it!!
The tweeting community of sports journalists seem to imply it's not a done deal
It’s mostly Peter King (but Rapoport and Freeman is retweeting and “joining him”). Some mention him really wanting to go to KC.
I hope this is all moot and that Josh realizes hes better off continuing to be mentored by Bill B than anyone else (no offense to Romeo).
Free Agency
An estimated 25% of all players will be free agents this year, over a dozen WR’s that project well as help. Lloyd certainly fits in.
I can get behind the idea of
Signing Lloyd, franchising Welker and picking up a deep threat/speed demon WR somewhere in the draft around the 3rd or 4th round. But I honestly believe our first 4 picks need to be on the defensive side of the ball. I’d like to see us keep both of our two 1st and 2nd round picks and draft some impact players for the D. But we all know BB, and that won’t happen
by J.RyanWalters on Jan 7, 2012 4:20 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
i wouldnt be surprised if he traded both
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Agree 100% with your comment
Well i would like us to lock-up Welker for a few more years but everything else I want to happen
Rex Ryan: "There’s no way that we’re looking to replace Mark Sanchez"
Patriots Nation: "Thank God"
Giants Fans: "FOUR MORE YEARS!! FOUR MORE YEARS!!"
My ideal situation is
To lock up Welker on a 2 or 3 year deal. I was just going along with a situation someone else had posted above about a franchise tag. If Welker is looking for a huge payday I say we franchise him, but if he’s truly looking to stick around with the club I say we lock him up. I think he likes it here, and it’s safe to say we don’t want him going anywhere.
by J.RyanWalters on Jan 7, 2012 5:07 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
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